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Re: Records for Steuben County, NY #usa

Rachel Unkefer <runkefer@...>
 

Dennis,

Have you tried:

1. The USGenWeb site for that county?

2. The county historical society or library? There may have been a
county history covering that period with profiles of some citizens
(assuming he lived there as an adult).

3. Cemetery headstone? Often they have the name of the town where the
person originated.

4. Searching for collateral branches who might have more information?
I was able to get the name of the town >from whence my husband's
g-grandmother came by tracking down a descendant of her sister's. He
had the original passport >from when they left Germany in 1857.

5. Mohel records >from AJA in Cincinnati? There were traveling mohels
and some of their record books are still around.

Synagogues don't always keep old records. I have had very little
success trying to track down records that way.

Rachel


At 12:08 PM -0500 2/7/01, Dennis Baer wrote:
Hello

Does anyone have any experience in finding Jewish Birth records for
Steuben County, New York in the year 1861? Noone has any state
records as far as I can see. I called around upstate NY looking for
Synagogues that might have existed in 1861 to seek their birth
records but to no avail.
SNIP

My goal, to find the city of birth or last city of residence for my
great great grandfather Leopold Baer and the name of his parents,
which did not appear on his death certificate!
--
Rachel Unkefer
Charlottesville, VA
runkefer@cstone.net


Early American SIG #USA RE: Records for Steuben County, NY #usa

Rachel Unkefer <runkefer@...>
 

Dennis,

Have you tried:

1. The USGenWeb site for that county?

2. The county historical society or library? There may have been a
county history covering that period with profiles of some citizens
(assuming he lived there as an adult).

3. Cemetery headstone? Often they have the name of the town where the
person originated.

4. Searching for collateral branches who might have more information?
I was able to get the name of the town >from whence my husband's
g-grandmother came by tracking down a descendant of her sister's. He
had the original passport >from when they left Germany in 1857.

5. Mohel records >from AJA in Cincinnati? There were traveling mohels
and some of their record books are still around.

Synagogues don't always keep old records. I have had very little
success trying to track down records that way.

Rachel


At 12:08 PM -0500 2/7/01, Dennis Baer wrote:
Hello

Does anyone have any experience in finding Jewish Birth records for
Steuben County, New York in the year 1861? Noone has any state
records as far as I can see. I called around upstate NY looking for
Synagogues that might have existed in 1861 to seek their birth
records but to no avail.
SNIP

My goal, to find the city of birth or last city of residence for my
great great grandfather Leopold Baer and the name of his parents,
which did not appear on his death certificate!
--
Rachel Unkefer
Charlottesville, VA
runkefer@cstone.net


Searching for ROSENBLATT & STERNBERG in Cleveland, Ohio #usa

Georgia Haken <gwhaken@...>
 

I am searching for the birthplace in Hesse-Cassel of Louis ROSENBLATT b. 1826/1829.
He emigrated in 1845 with his future brother-in-law Jacob STERNBERG and lived in
Cleveland, Ohio >from about 1869 to 1881/1884. Along with his brother-in-law he
manufactured umbrellas. He had 2 wives and 14 children. His parents were Herz and
Jetta and he died in New York City in 1924. His nephew was still manufaturing
umbrellas in 1890 in Cleveland. I believe that Jacob STERNBERG'S wife was named Bena
and she died before 1880. I have had no luck so far with Louis or his first wife and
children and have decided to look for STERNBERG since they came >from the same town.
I would appreciate any assistance >from someone familiar with early Cleveland.

Georgia Haken, Danbury, Connecticut, USA gwhaken@yahoo.com

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Birth records Steuben County, New York 1861 #usa

Dennis Baer <dbaer@...>
 

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Hello

Does anyone have any experience in finding Jewish Birth records for Steuben
County, New York in the year 1861? Noone has any state records as far as I
can see. I called around upstate NY looking for Synagogues that might have
existed in 1861 to seek their birth records but to no avail.

I want to see if I can find a birth record for my great grandfather Louis
BAER born on July 29, 1861 in Steuben County, New York.

Also, perhaps as a group we could write to the author of Germans to America
and ask them to do an index for ships >from Germany to NY for the years
between 1820-1897 that did not get indexed by the US Government. My great
great grandfather Leopold BAER had the misfortune to arrive in NYC in 1848
which remains unindexed. Yes, one could have someone check the complicated
Hamburg Index but it only covers a small percentage of arrivals and that
leaves Bremen and other cities.

My goal, to find the city of birth or last city of residence for my great
great grandfather Leopold BAER and the name of his parents, which did not
appear on his death certificate!

Thank you.

Dennis Baer

Bethpage, NY


Early American SIG #USA Searching for ROSENBLATT & STERNBERG in Cleveland, Ohio #usa

Georgia Haken <gwhaken@...>
 

I am searching for the birthplace in Hesse-Cassel of Louis ROSENBLATT b. 1826/1829.
He emigrated in 1845 with his future brother-in-law Jacob STERNBERG and lived in
Cleveland, Ohio >from about 1869 to 1881/1884. Along with his brother-in-law he
manufactured umbrellas. He had 2 wives and 14 children. His parents were Herz and
Jetta and he died in New York City in 1924. His nephew was still manufaturing
umbrellas in 1890 in Cleveland. I believe that Jacob STERNBERG'S wife was named Bena
and she died before 1880. I have had no luck so far with Louis or his first wife and
children and have decided to look for STERNBERG since they came >from the same town.
I would appreciate any assistance >from someone familiar with early Cleveland.

Georgia Haken, Danbury, Connecticut, USA gwhaken@yahoo.com

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Early American SIG #USA Birth records Steuben County, New York 1861 #usa

Dennis Baer <dbaer@...>
 

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Hello

Does anyone have any experience in finding Jewish Birth records for Steuben
County, New York in the year 1861? Noone has any state records as far as I
can see. I called around upstate NY looking for Synagogues that might have
existed in 1861 to seek their birth records but to no avail.

I want to see if I can find a birth record for my great grandfather Louis
BAER born on July 29, 1861 in Steuben County, New York.

Also, perhaps as a group we could write to the author of Germans to America
and ask them to do an index for ships >from Germany to NY for the years
between 1820-1897 that did not get indexed by the US Government. My great
great grandfather Leopold BAER had the misfortune to arrive in NYC in 1848
which remains unindexed. Yes, one could have someone check the complicated
Hamburg Index but it only covers a small percentage of arrivals and that
leaves Bremen and other cities.

My goal, to find the city of birth or last city of residence for my great
great grandfather Leopold BAER and the name of his parents, which did not
appear on his death certificate!

Thank you.

Dennis Baer

Bethpage, NY


Petropowsa, near Minsk Belarus #belarus

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

Can you help me find the correct spelling and location of this town near
Minsk..
PETROPOWSA.. that is the spelling on the Canadian border crossing
papers..
Thanks..Gayle >from San Gabriel, Ca
Looking for GARFINKEL, MOSKOVITZ, ZELEVANSKY and ShAPIRO from
Timikovichi, Belarus
COHEN and LEVINE >from Minsk and Uslion(Uzylany)

PS I need a room mate for the UK conv. a woman, non smoking


ViewMate posting #belarus

Jonathan Ogur <jmogur@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I've just posted a photo on ViewMate. The address is
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview123.html#vm392.
I believe the woman in the photo is my maternal great grandmother BEGUN
and the two girls are her grandaughters. Any information your can
provide will be greatly appreciated. Please contact me privately at
jmogur@erols.com.

Thanks.

Jonathan Ogur
Annandale, Virginia
USA


researching OGUR, LEVINE, BREGMAN, and BEGUN


Belarus SIG #Belarus Petropowsa, near Minsk Belarus #belarus

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

Can you help me find the correct spelling and location of this town near
Minsk..
PETROPOWSA.. that is the spelling on the Canadian border crossing
papers..
Thanks..Gayle >from San Gabriel, Ca
Looking for GARFINKEL, MOSKOVITZ, ZELEVANSKY and ShAPIRO from
Timikovichi, Belarus
COHEN and LEVINE >from Minsk and Uslion(Uzylany)

PS I need a room mate for the UK conv. a woman, non smoking


Belarus SIG #Belarus ViewMate posting #belarus

Jonathan Ogur <jmogur@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I've just posted a photo on ViewMate. The address is
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview123.html#vm392.
I believe the woman in the photo is my maternal great grandmother BEGUN
and the two girls are her grandaughters. Any information your can
provide will be greatly appreciated. Please contact me privately at
jmogur@erols.com.

Thanks.

Jonathan Ogur
Annandale, Virginia
USA


researching OGUR, LEVINE, BREGMAN, and BEGUN


The Danish Genealogical Research Guide #general

Elsebeth Paikin
 

This is just a reminder:

If you want to place a request for help or the like in the
Danish Genealogical Research Guide note the:

Deadlines:
Typewritten: 1. March
by e-mail or via the
online form on the website 1. April

Further information on the website:
http://www.hvemforskerhvad.dk/index_us.htm
or e-mail the editor: Michael Bach
mailto:info@hvemforskerhvad.dk

Best regards

Elsebeth Paikin
webmaster for The Danish Genealogical Research Guide:
http://www.hvemforskerhvad.dk/index_us


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Danish Genealogical Research Guide #general

Elsebeth Paikin
 

This is just a reminder:

If you want to place a request for help or the like in the
Danish Genealogical Research Guide note the:

Deadlines:
Typewritten: 1. March
by e-mail or via the
online form on the website 1. April

Further information on the website:
http://www.hvemforskerhvad.dk/index_us.htm
or e-mail the editor: Michael Bach
mailto:info@hvemforskerhvad.dk

Best regards

Elsebeth Paikin
webmaster for The Danish Genealogical Research Guide:
http://www.hvemforskerhvad.dk/index_us


Your P.O.Box mailing address, too! #belarus

NSchu27300@...
 

Dear fellow BELARUS genealogists;
For the past year I have seen many BELARUS postings that I could take
time to help as I am a professional genealogist; But I can spend little time
on the computer as it is my wife's and I do not like to "hog" it. I still
enjoy writing most of my research to my clients, so if you want my help
please list your mailing address! I cannot formally charge you a fee on
BELARUS SIG, but I would appreciate a GIFT of old postcards, old stamps, or
old photos if my answer is helpful. Sincerely, HERBERT SCHULMAN, P.O.Box
2050, Cullowhee, N.C.28723

Moderator note: please apply privately


(No subject) #belarus

Linda Fefferman
 

Hello to All,

Jack R. Braverman wrote about - Subject: New Thread: Portals
<"Could others submit correlations between _known_ departure ports and
arrival ports in the U.S.? Include the individual's country/area of origin.
Also the shipping line, if known, and date. And the port of entry.">

This may not be exactly what Jack had in mind, but I thought I would
share the following in the hopes it might be of help and/or interest to
someone else:
In tracing my husband's FEFFERMAN (PFEFFERMANN) surname, I can share the
following about "our" Immigrant:
(Froim) Frank Pfeffermann / Fefferman b.c. 1873 Kadan(?) (Koden, Lublin,
Russia/Poland), Poland per his death certificate or b. Dec. 15, 1874 Coden,
Russia per Declaration of Intention for Naturalization (in his 1912 Petition
for Naturalization paper he stated his birth date as Dec. 17, 1874 born in
Russia, and that his wife Dora (Rasim sp?) was born in Russia and still
resides there, and he gave names and birthdates of his three children all
born in Russia and still residing there. Witnesses who personally knew him
were David Kliger (a carpenter) and David Blumenberg (a Painter), he could
speak English and signed his name); of Brest Litovsk, White Russia;

His Naturalization paper Declaration of Intention (filed Sept. 27, 1913 in
Chicago, Ill.) gives his name a Frank Peperman, age 38 years, fair
complextion, 5 foot 7 inches tall, weight 160 pounds, dark brown hair, grey
eyes; his last foreign residence was Demochevo, Russia;
he emigrated to America >from Antwerp Belgium on Sept. 9, 1911 and he arrived
on the vessel "Finnland" Sept. 19, 1911 at the port of New York, New York;
He came to Illinois Dec. 15, 1911. His 1918 Certificate of Naturalization
gives the following info.: 44 years, 5 foot 5 inches tall, his wife Dora age
38 years in Russia, lists Ezekiel age 20, Israel age 10, and Hyman age 7,
all
residing in Russia; his address was 1105 S. Troy, Chicago, Ill. )
He lived at 1333 No. 14th Street, Chicago, Illinois;
U.S. Department of Labor show him as Froim Pfeffermann. "Frank" died age 56,
on Dec. 6, 1929 Cook Co., Illinois, buried Dec. 6, 1929 Proviso, Cook Co.,
Ill. or Oak Forest, Ill.

In researching the "Finland"
Source: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/3649/ship-d-f.html#F
"FINLAND
The "Finland" was a 12,760 ton vessel built in 1902 by W.Cramp & sons of
Philadelphia for the Red Star Line. Her dimensions were 560ft x 60.2ft and
she had a straight stem, two funnels and four masts, twin screw and a speed
of 15 knots. There was accommodation for 342 1st, 194 2nd and 626 3rd class
passengers. She sailed under the American flag between New York and Antwerp
until 1909 when she was transferred to the Belgian flag. In March 1909 she
was used on the Naples - NY service by the White Star Line until June of
that
year. In 1912 she reverted to the US flag and was employed between Antwerp
and NY until 1914 when she went on the NY - Naples - Piraeus run. In 1915
she
was used by Panama Pacific Line between NY - Panama - San Francisco and
later
the same year for the American Line between NY - Falmouth - London. In 1916
employed by the same company on their NY - Liverpool run. When America
entered the war in 1917 she was taken over as a US troopship until torpedoed
150 miles >from the French coast. She reached St Nazaire where she was
repaired. In 1919 she was altered to accommodate 242 1st, 310 2nd and 876
3rd
class passengers and was employed between NY - Southampton and Antwerp for
Red Star Line. In 1923 she was used again by American Line for their NY -
Plymouth - Cherbourg - Hamburg. In 1923 transferred again to Panama Pacific
Line for the NY - San Francisco service. Finally scrapped in 1928 at Blyth.
The history of the Red Star Line is extremely complicated as they ran ships
under three different flags (American, British and Belgian) and they
transferred vessels continually between flags, different services and
chartered to other companies....."

4 October 1910, maiden voyage, New York-Antwerp (U.S. flag). By January
1909,
first voyage, Antwerp-New York (Belgian flag). 6 March-5 June 1909, 3
roundtrip voyages for the White Star Line (charter), Naples-New York.

We have Doba/"Dora" (nee Rasim) Pfeffermann (Fefferman)'s 1920 passport
framed and hanging on our livingroom wall. The name of the ship she came to
America on Dec. 4, 1921 is not readable but looks something like "Wuddle" or
"Hudale".
According to her (Rzeczpospolita Polska M.S.W. Republique Polonaise
M.I.Paszport - Passeport) passport, and American Visa issued Dec. 4, 1920,
Doba Pfeferman / Pfefermann was born in 1882, in or was >from Brest Lit. In
1882 Brest Litvo was in the province of Grodno, White Russia (was Poland,
now
Belarus).

And the search continues.... I would be most greatful to hear >from anyone
who might have information about the Rasim or Rasmin surname.

Warmly,
Linda Fefferman
Cathedral City, Calif., USA
Also interested in: (DICKMAN, MARANZ, LIEBOWITZ, connected to the OHRBACH
surname)
EPSTYEN / EPSTEYN of Koden, Lublin, Pol./Rus.
GRUMAN of Koden, Lublin, Pol./Rus.
STEIN of Russia
ZIEDMAN of London, England


Belarus SIG #Belarus Your P.O.Box mailing address, too! #belarus

NSchu27300@...
 

Dear fellow BELARUS genealogists;
For the past year I have seen many BELARUS postings that I could take
time to help as I am a professional genealogist; But I can spend little time
on the computer as it is my wife's and I do not like to "hog" it. I still
enjoy writing most of my research to my clients, so if you want my help
please list your mailing address! I cannot formally charge you a fee on
BELARUS SIG, but I would appreciate a GIFT of old postcards, old stamps, or
old photos if my answer is helpful. Sincerely, HERBERT SCHULMAN, P.O.Box
2050, Cullowhee, N.C.28723

Moderator note: please apply privately


Belarus SIG #Belarus (no subject) #belarus

Linda Fefferman
 

Hello to All,

Jack R. Braverman wrote about - Subject: New Thread: Portals
<"Could others submit correlations between _known_ departure ports and
arrival ports in the U.S.? Include the individual's country/area of origin.
Also the shipping line, if known, and date. And the port of entry.">

This may not be exactly what Jack had in mind, but I thought I would
share the following in the hopes it might be of help and/or interest to
someone else:
In tracing my husband's FEFFERMAN (PFEFFERMANN) surname, I can share the
following about "our" Immigrant:
(Froim) Frank Pfeffermann / Fefferman b.c. 1873 Kadan(?) (Koden, Lublin,
Russia/Poland), Poland per his death certificate or b. Dec. 15, 1874 Coden,
Russia per Declaration of Intention for Naturalization (in his 1912 Petition
for Naturalization paper he stated his birth date as Dec. 17, 1874 born in
Russia, and that his wife Dora (Rasim sp?) was born in Russia and still
resides there, and he gave names and birthdates of his three children all
born in Russia and still residing there. Witnesses who personally knew him
were David Kliger (a carpenter) and David Blumenberg (a Painter), he could
speak English and signed his name); of Brest Litovsk, White Russia;

His Naturalization paper Declaration of Intention (filed Sept. 27, 1913 in
Chicago, Ill.) gives his name a Frank Peperman, age 38 years, fair
complextion, 5 foot 7 inches tall, weight 160 pounds, dark brown hair, grey
eyes; his last foreign residence was Demochevo, Russia;
he emigrated to America >from Antwerp Belgium on Sept. 9, 1911 and he arrived
on the vessel "Finnland" Sept. 19, 1911 at the port of New York, New York;
He came to Illinois Dec. 15, 1911. His 1918 Certificate of Naturalization
gives the following info.: 44 years, 5 foot 5 inches tall, his wife Dora age
38 years in Russia, lists Ezekiel age 20, Israel age 10, and Hyman age 7,
all
residing in Russia; his address was 1105 S. Troy, Chicago, Ill. )
He lived at 1333 No. 14th Street, Chicago, Illinois;
U.S. Department of Labor show him as Froim Pfeffermann. "Frank" died age 56,
on Dec. 6, 1929 Cook Co., Illinois, buried Dec. 6, 1929 Proviso, Cook Co.,
Ill. or Oak Forest, Ill.

In researching the "Finland"
Source: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/3649/ship-d-f.html#F
"FINLAND
The "Finland" was a 12,760 ton vessel built in 1902 by W.Cramp & sons of
Philadelphia for the Red Star Line. Her dimensions were 560ft x 60.2ft and
she had a straight stem, two funnels and four masts, twin screw and a speed
of 15 knots. There was accommodation for 342 1st, 194 2nd and 626 3rd class
passengers. She sailed under the American flag between New York and Antwerp
until 1909 when she was transferred to the Belgian flag. In March 1909 she
was used on the Naples - NY service by the White Star Line until June of
that
year. In 1912 she reverted to the US flag and was employed between Antwerp
and NY until 1914 when she went on the NY - Naples - Piraeus run. In 1915
she
was used by Panama Pacific Line between NY - Panama - San Francisco and
later
the same year for the American Line between NY - Falmouth - London. In 1916
employed by the same company on their NY - Liverpool run. When America
entered the war in 1917 she was taken over as a US troopship until torpedoed
150 miles >from the French coast. She reached St Nazaire where she was
repaired. In 1919 she was altered to accommodate 242 1st, 310 2nd and 876
3rd
class passengers and was employed between NY - Southampton and Antwerp for
Red Star Line. In 1923 she was used again by American Line for their NY -
Plymouth - Cherbourg - Hamburg. In 1923 transferred again to Panama Pacific
Line for the NY - San Francisco service. Finally scrapped in 1928 at Blyth.
The history of the Red Star Line is extremely complicated as they ran ships
under three different flags (American, British and Belgian) and they
transferred vessels continually between flags, different services and
chartered to other companies....."

4 October 1910, maiden voyage, New York-Antwerp (U.S. flag). By January
1909,
first voyage, Antwerp-New York (Belgian flag). 6 March-5 June 1909, 3
roundtrip voyages for the White Star Line (charter), Naples-New York.

We have Doba/"Dora" (nee Rasim) Pfeffermann (Fefferman)'s 1920 passport
framed and hanging on our livingroom wall. The name of the ship she came to
America on Dec. 4, 1921 is not readable but looks something like "Wuddle" or
"Hudale".
According to her (Rzeczpospolita Polska M.S.W. Republique Polonaise
M.I.Paszport - Passeport) passport, and American Visa issued Dec. 4, 1920,
Doba Pfeferman / Pfefermann was born in 1882, in or was >from Brest Lit. In
1882 Brest Litvo was in the province of Grodno, White Russia (was Poland,
now
Belarus).

And the search continues.... I would be most greatful to hear >from anyone
who might have information about the Rasim or Rasmin surname.

Warmly,
Linda Fefferman
Cathedral City, Calif., USA
Also interested in: (DICKMAN, MARANZ, LIEBOWITZ, connected to the OHRBACH
surname)
EPSTYEN / EPSTEYN of Koden, Lublin, Pol./Rus.
GRUMAN of Koden, Lublin, Pol./Rus.
STEIN of Russia
ZIEDMAN of London, England


Re: New Thread: Portals #belarus

Yale Sedman <ys-sedman@...>
 

My father started from: Kopaigorod, Volhin, Ukraine, somehow took the
T.S.S. Kroonland, Red Star Line, >from Antwerp to Ellis Island in 1913.
Thanks. Yale

Searching:SEDMAN/SEIDMAN/WERETA/KOIFMAN (Kopaygorod, Ukraine); GITLIN,
SHULMAN (Minsk, Belarus).


Re: name traditions #belarus

Irene Newhouse <newhoir@...>
 

I don't know about naming traditions. But I do know that some of the
descendants of the Chofetz Chaim are using the surname POUPKO, which was
his stepfather's name. The person who told me this, a member of that
family, says they no longer know why this happened, only that it did.

Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI


Belarus SIG #Belarus re: New Thread: Portals #belarus

Yale Sedman <ys-sedman@...>
 

My father started from: Kopaigorod, Volhin, Ukraine, somehow took the
T.S.S. Kroonland, Red Star Line, >from Antwerp to Ellis Island in 1913.
Thanks. Yale

Searching:SEDMAN/SEIDMAN/WERETA/KOIFMAN (Kopaygorod, Ukraine); GITLIN,
SHULMAN (Minsk, Belarus).


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: name traditions #belarus

Irene Newhouse <newhoir@...>
 

I don't know about naming traditions. But I do know that some of the
descendants of the Chofetz Chaim are using the surname POUPKO, which was
his stepfather's name. The person who told me this, a member of that
family, says they no longer know why this happened, only that it did.

Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI