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Excellent Street Map of Budapest and Flying Accents #hungary

Ed Zwieback <ezwiebac@...>
 

There is a very good street map of Budapest together with a street locator
at the URL of
http://www.fsz.bme.hu/hungary/budapest/cgi-bin/search .
The street locator uses "flying accents" which are the same as the
alternate marking of diacritical marks discussed.
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, CA
ZWIEBACK Family Name Web Site at http://home1.gte.net/ezwiebac/



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Family Names #hungary

Aaron E. Rosenberg <a-j.rosenberg@...>
 

Possibly, I am the last to post this.

Here are family names I am researching. All the villages are currently in
Slovakia. Besides emigrants to America, some family members are believed to
have left these villages to pursue more prosperous lives in larger cities in
Hungary, notably, Miskolc and Budapest.

ROSENBERG: Hazin, Kamenica (near Humenne), Stropkov
KAUFMAN: Slovenska Kajnya
WEISBERGER, GRUNFELD: vicinity of Humenne presumably)
FRIEDMAN: Secovce, Sacurov
MANDEL: Secovce
SCHON: Czeke (near Satoraljaujhely)

Still hanging in there,

Aaron Rosenberg
Berkeley Heights, New Jersey


Umlaut's #hungary

Ruffin Cooper <rrcooper@...>
 

You can get a neat freeware program to use Umlaut's >from the following web
site:

http://www.kagi.com/vfstudio/fantasy.htm Just download and unzip.

Enjoy and good hunting.

Ruffin Cooper



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Names:DAVIDOVITS/DAVIS;CHAIMOVITS/HAYFER;WINARSKY;BRACKER;ABRAMSON;YICHYA;etc #hungary

Moshe & Esther Davis <davis@...>
 

Families being researched:

*DAVIDOVITS (>from Leh (now called Shirukiy-Lug), Maramaros)
was changed to
*DAVIS (Byesville, OH; Cleveland (?), Los Angeles, Jerusalem)
*KATZ (also >from Leh, Cleveland (?))
*CHAIMOVITS (>from Drahiv (now called Dragovo), Maramaros)
was changed to
*HAYFER (Byesville, OH; Cleveland (?), Cincinnati, Mansfield, OH; Los
Angeles)
*WINARSKY (Kiev; Argentina; New York)
was changed to
*WINARD (New York; Los Angeles)
*BRECHER/BRACKER (Bucharesti; New York; Arizona; Los Angeles)
*ABRAMSON (Novograd-Volinsky (Zvil); Cuba; New England states;
Michigan; Florida)
*METKOP (Kiev; Moskow; Cuba; Michigan)
*YICHYA/YAHIA (Istanbul; Cuba; Michigan)


---
Moshe & Esther Davis
<davis@sefer.org>


Hungary SIG #Hungary Excellent Street Map of Budapest and Flying Accents #hungary

Ed Zwieback <ezwiebac@...>
 

There is a very good street map of Budapest together with a street locator
at the URL of
http://www.fsz.bme.hu/hungary/budapest/cgi-bin/search .
The street locator uses "flying accents" which are the same as the
alternate marking of diacritical marks discussed.
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, CA
ZWIEBACK Family Name Web Site at http://home1.gte.net/ezwiebac/



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Hungary SIG #Hungary Family Names #hungary

Aaron E. Rosenberg <a-j.rosenberg@...>
 

Possibly, I am the last to post this.

Here are family names I am researching. All the villages are currently in
Slovakia. Besides emigrants to America, some family members are believed to
have left these villages to pursue more prosperous lives in larger cities in
Hungary, notably, Miskolc and Budapest.

ROSENBERG: Hazin, Kamenica (near Humenne), Stropkov
KAUFMAN: Slovenska Kajnya
WEISBERGER, GRUNFELD: vicinity of Humenne presumably)
FRIEDMAN: Secovce, Sacurov
MANDEL: Secovce
SCHON: Czeke (near Satoraljaujhely)

Still hanging in there,

Aaron Rosenberg
Berkeley Heights, New Jersey


Hungary SIG #Hungary Umlaut's #hungary

Ruffin Cooper <rrcooper@...>
 

You can get a neat freeware program to use Umlaut's >from the following web
site:

http://www.kagi.com/vfstudio/fantasy.htm Just download and unzip.

Enjoy and good hunting.

Ruffin Cooper



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Hungary SIG #Hungary Names:DAVIDOVITS/DAVIS;CHAIMOVITS/HAYFER;WINARSKY;BRACKER;ABRAMSON;YICHYA;etc #hungary

Moshe & Esther Davis <davis@...>
 

Families being researched:

*DAVIDOVITS (>from Leh (now called Shirukiy-Lug), Maramaros)
was changed to
*DAVIS (Byesville, OH; Cleveland (?), Los Angeles, Jerusalem)
*KATZ (also >from Leh, Cleveland (?))
*CHAIMOVITS (>from Drahiv (now called Dragovo), Maramaros)
was changed to
*HAYFER (Byesville, OH; Cleveland (?), Cincinnati, Mansfield, OH; Los
Angeles)
*WINARSKY (Kiev; Argentina; New York)
was changed to
*WINARD (New York; Los Angeles)
*BRECHER/BRACKER (Bucharesti; New York; Arizona; Los Angeles)
*ABRAMSON (Novograd-Volinsky (Zvil); Cuba; New England states;
Michigan; Florida)
*METKOP (Kiev; Moskow; Cuba; Michigan)
*YICHYA/YAHIA (Istanbul; Cuba; Michigan)


---
Moshe & Esther Davis
<davis@sefer.org>


Letters of the Hungarian alphabet #hungary

David and BethLong <dnblong@...>
 

Since no Hungarians have responded to this question so far, I'll tell you
what I know:

There are no "accents" or "umlauts" in Hungarian: each of the following
vowels: o, o, o, o is a separate letter (each with its own unique and
consistant pronunciation). Likewise, there are both a and a, e and e, i and
i, u, u, and u. The "long" vowels are usually written either "o" or "o" on
an English keyboard since it lacks the correct Hungarian symbol.

Additional consonants are: cs, dz,dzs,gy,ly,ny,sz,ty, and zs.

You really can't think of the different letters as being one letter with
different diacritical "marks"; if you leave off the "marks", it's not the
same word anymore (i.e. baj= trouble, but baj=charm).

As for the "c" v.s. "cz" issue (Like Ferenc v.s. Ferencz), my understanding
is that the more common modern spelling (starting maybe around the turn of
the century) is the "c" and not the older form "cz".

As to the best way to represent all this for a mainly an English-speaking
list, I don't really know., I can see how the letters could be confusing to
English-speakers, but it's probably confusing for Hungarians to see their
surnames and place names spelled incorrectly, too.

Beth Long

-----Original Message-----
From: Chaim Frenkel [SMTP:chaimf@pobox.com]
Subject: Re: About accents and umlauts

Would some kind person educate me about the diacritical marks in Hungarian?


Hungary SIG #Hungary Letters of the Hungarian alphabet #hungary

David and BethLong <dnblong@...>
 

Since no Hungarians have responded to this question so far, I'll tell you
what I know:

There are no "accents" or "umlauts" in Hungarian: each of the following
vowels: o, o, o, o is a separate letter (each with its own unique and
consistant pronunciation). Likewise, there are both a and a, e and e, i and
i, u, u, and u. The "long" vowels are usually written either "o" or "o" on
an English keyboard since it lacks the correct Hungarian symbol.

Additional consonants are: cs, dz,dzs,gy,ly,ny,sz,ty, and zs.

You really can't think of the different letters as being one letter with
different diacritical "marks"; if you leave off the "marks", it's not the
same word anymore (i.e. baj= trouble, but baj=charm).

As for the "c" v.s. "cz" issue (Like Ferenc v.s. Ferencz), my understanding
is that the more common modern spelling (starting maybe around the turn of
the century) is the "c" and not the older form "cz".

As to the best way to represent all this for a mainly an English-speaking
list, I don't really know., I can see how the letters could be confusing to
English-speakers, but it's probably confusing for Hungarians to see their
surnames and place names spelled incorrectly, too.

Beth Long

-----Original Message-----
From: Chaim Frenkel [SMTP:chaimf@pobox.com]
Subject: Re: About accents and umlauts

Would some kind person educate me about the diacritical marks in Hungarian?


Schene, Austria Hungary #hungary

Nana600@...
 

To Anyone :

I just received a copy of a passport application for my father Abraham
Friedman dated 1925. He was born in 1885. I have been searching for his
birthplace for more than 10 years. Nothing of his nor anyone in his family
has turned up on any documentation on where he or they were born in Hungary.

I, of course was ecstatic to receive the application copy but now I am
stumped. Nothing in WOWW, Shtet lFinders, people I have written to - have
ever heard of it. It could have been Sena,Szinna but I distinctly remember
a family member telling me they did not come >from the same city as my father.
I cannot find any documentation anywhere. A possible clue is the 1848 census
which notes my great grandfathers name Moses as 40 years old and a Jakob who
was 67 who could have been who my grandfather Jacob Friedman was named
after. That was noted in Hunfalu or Huncovce. Nothing except the names and
possible dates match.

On mapquest, a city Sehakovce (can't read the Hungarian) appears north of
Kosice and a city Seha, Sena (Szinna) shows up south of Kosice.????????????We
think the family claimed they were >from Kassa - but nothing matches there.

My father was an attorney at that time and I would guess would have reread
the application and corrected the spelling, but who knows.

Can anyone offer any insight? Would be so grateful.

Sincerely,
Leah Friedman Levine
Cincinnati, Ohio


ViewMate - VM383: WW1 photo #hungary

Margarita Lackó <uzidog@...>
 

Dear H-siggers,

The other day, a cousin sent me a scanned photo of a group of soldiers.

I suspect my grandfather, Jeno LEICHT (b 1894 in Csecseny Patony [near
Dunajska Streda], Slovakia) is in this photo, but can't recognize him. I
just found out that my grandfather was stationed in Albania during W.W.I.
Any idea what kind of uniform this is? Anything you can tell me about this
photo would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview119.html#vm383

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/vm383.html

Thank you!

Margarita Lackó
from "the island" in Miami
uzidog@post1.com


Surname list - Greenwald, Grunwald, Mandelbaum #hungary

cmandel@...
 

GREENWALD, GRUNWALD
1. KHOLMETS, UKRAINE (also known as Putka Helmecz in 1890, and
Chlumec, Chomec, Gubka Khlmets or Helmec) near Uzhgorod,
Ukraine
2. NEW YORK CITY, New York
3. BRIDGEPORT, Connecticut, USA

MANDELBAUM
1. MALE TRAKANY OR VELKE TRAKANY, Slovakia (also known as
Maly Tarkan, KisTarkany or Velky Tarkan) near Kralovsky Chlmec,
Slovakia
2. NEW YORK CITY, NY
3. MIDDLETOWN, Connecticut, USA
Regards,

Charles Mandelbaum

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Hungary SIG #Hungary Schene, Austria Hungary #hungary

Nana600@...
 

To Anyone :

I just received a copy of a passport application for my father Abraham
Friedman dated 1925. He was born in 1885. I have been searching for his
birthplace for more than 10 years. Nothing of his nor anyone in his family
has turned up on any documentation on where he or they were born in Hungary.

I, of course was ecstatic to receive the application copy but now I am
stumped. Nothing in WOWW, Shtet lFinders, people I have written to - have
ever heard of it. It could have been Sena,Szinna but I distinctly remember
a family member telling me they did not come >from the same city as my father.
I cannot find any documentation anywhere. A possible clue is the 1848 census
which notes my great grandfathers name Moses as 40 years old and a Jakob who
was 67 who could have been who my grandfather Jacob Friedman was named
after. That was noted in Hunfalu or Huncovce. Nothing except the names and
possible dates match.

On mapquest, a city Sehakovce (can't read the Hungarian) appears north of
Kosice and a city Seha, Sena (Szinna) shows up south of Kosice.????????????We
think the family claimed they were >from Kassa - but nothing matches there.

My father was an attorney at that time and I would guess would have reread
the application and corrected the spelling, but who knows.

Can anyone offer any insight? Would be so grateful.

Sincerely,
Leah Friedman Levine
Cincinnati, Ohio


Hungary SIG #Hungary ViewMate - VM383: WW1 photo #hungary

Margarita Lackó <uzidog@...>
 

Dear H-siggers,

The other day, a cousin sent me a scanned photo of a group of soldiers.

I suspect my grandfather, Jeno LEICHT (b 1894 in Csecseny Patony [near
Dunajska Streda], Slovakia) is in this photo, but can't recognize him. I
just found out that my grandfather was stationed in Albania during W.W.I.
Any idea what kind of uniform this is? Anything you can tell me about this
photo would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview119.html#vm383

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/vm383.html

Thank you!

Margarita Lackó
from "the island" in Miami
uzidog@post1.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Surname list - Greenwald, Grunwald, Mandelbaum #hungary

cmandel@...
 

GREENWALD, GRUNWALD
1. KHOLMETS, UKRAINE (also known as Putka Helmecz in 1890, and
Chlumec, Chomec, Gubka Khlmets or Helmec) near Uzhgorod,
Ukraine
2. NEW YORK CITY, New York
3. BRIDGEPORT, Connecticut, USA

MANDELBAUM
1. MALE TRAKANY OR VELKE TRAKANY, Slovakia (also known as
Maly Tarkan, KisTarkany or Velky Tarkan) near Kralovsky Chlmec,
Slovakia
2. NEW YORK CITY, NY
3. MIDDLETOWN, Connecticut, USA
Regards,

Charles Mandelbaum

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Re: Beth Jacob Cemetery #general

Gene and Ellen Sucov <genellen@...>
 

Dear Varda, You should get in touch with Susan Melnick, curator of Jewish
history, in the Heinz Museum of Southwestern Pennsylvania. She has access
to all the cemetaries and the translations of their tombstones for this
area.
She can be reached at mailto:melnick@hswp.org
Good luck.
Gene Sucov, Pittsburgh JGS, searching for
SUCHOWCZYCKI, Horodetz-Bialystok-US
SHLAFMITZ, Zaremby-Koscielne-US

----- Original Message -----
From: dov & varda epstein <yknow@netvision.net.il>
To: JewishGen Discussion Group <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 8:40 AM
Subject: Beth Jacob Cemetery
I have both my mpgg buried in Beth Jacob Cemetery in Lower Burrell(New
Kensington),Pa.I need their birth dates and the names of their parents in
order to continue my search. I have been unable to find an address for a
contact at this cemetery. I looked at the Jewishgen Cemetery project, the
phone number listed for the contact for this cemetery was an out of order
phone number.I tried querying 2 e-mail addresses listed on the same page;
an Aaron Roetenberg, who is the listed contact for most of the Pittsburgh
area cemeteries, unless otherwise stated on the page, and a Dr. Spialter,
who is the contact for the Arnold, Pa., area, a nearby town. I also
contacted thequeries and comments address given at thebottom of thissite.
I did not receive any answers to any of my queries. I also searched
infospace and the web in general for the address.I found a picture of the
cemetery and a short history of this place, but no address. Any ideas?
Varda Epstein
yknow@netvision.net.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Beth Jacob Cemetery #general

Gene and Ellen Sucov <genellen@...>
 

Dear Varda, You should get in touch with Susan Melnick, curator of Jewish
history, in the Heinz Museum of Southwestern Pennsylvania. She has access
to all the cemetaries and the translations of their tombstones for this
area.
She can be reached at mailto:melnick@hswp.org
Good luck.
Gene Sucov, Pittsburgh JGS, searching for
SUCHOWCZYCKI, Horodetz-Bialystok-US
SHLAFMITZ, Zaremby-Koscielne-US

----- Original Message -----
From: dov & varda epstein <yknow@netvision.net.il>
To: JewishGen Discussion Group <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 8:40 AM
Subject: Beth Jacob Cemetery
I have both my mpgg buried in Beth Jacob Cemetery in Lower Burrell(New
Kensington),Pa.I need their birth dates and the names of their parents in
order to continue my search. I have been unable to find an address for a
contact at this cemetery. I looked at the Jewishgen Cemetery project, the
phone number listed for the contact for this cemetery was an out of order
phone number.I tried querying 2 e-mail addresses listed on the same page;
an Aaron Roetenberg, who is the listed contact for most of the Pittsburgh
area cemeteries, unless otherwise stated on the page, and a Dr. Spialter,
who is the contact for the Arnold, Pa., area, a nearby town. I also
contacted thequeries and comments address given at thebottom of thissite.
I did not receive any answers to any of my queries. I also searched
infospace and the web in general for the address.I found a picture of the
cemetery and a short history of this place, but no address. Any ideas?
Varda Epstein
yknow@netvision.net.il


Keiltz/Kieltz-town/shtetl in Poland #general

WingsforGold <wingsforgold@...>
 

Please let me know if you have ever heard of a town like this in Poland.
The only thing I could find were the towns of Kietlice, Kotlice, and
Quidlitz. I think the closest sounding one would be Kietlice. Problem?
My mother could only tell me what she was told;that the town was spelled
Keitlz or Kietlz. My grandparent's have been deceased for over 20 year's,
and no one else in the family has done a family tree. Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Susan Goldman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Keiltz/Kieltz-town/shtetl in Poland #general

WingsforGold <wingsforgold@...>
 

Please let me know if you have ever heard of a town like this in Poland.
The only thing I could find were the towns of Kietlice, Kotlice, and
Quidlitz. I think the closest sounding one would be Kietlice. Problem?
My mother could only tell me what she was told;that the town was spelled
Keitlz or Kietlz. My grandparent's have been deceased for over 20 year's,
and no one else in the family has done a family tree. Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Susan Goldman