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Re: Researching a birth in ZAMOSC (Poland),1820 #poland

Shelley K. Pollero <rkpollero@...>
 

Dear Zamosc researchers,

There are 1820 Jewish vital records in the Zamosc Roman Catholic Parish Records in the
FHL. See Films #0771639 and # 0771641. I found my great-great-grandfather's half brother
(1820) and my great-great-grandmother's birth record (1818). There are annual indexes at
the end of each year beginning 1812. Prior to 1812, the records are not indexed. (Hint:
look for Hebrew signatures of witnesses) The format for the records is the same as the
later Polish records.

There are other RC films with Jewish vital records prior to 1826, when separate Jewish
Civil Records for Zamosc began. Those 1811 and earlier are not indexed. I began a listing
of Zamosc Jewish births, marriages and deaths in the RC records for 1810 and 1811. It is
not at all complete, even somewhat sporadic, but I have a lot of names (in a notebook, not
computerized). I'd be happy to look up a surname, and might be motivated to make a
database of what I found. Some day....

Shelley Kellerman Pollero
Severna Park, Maryland
rkpollero@starpower.net

Researching in Zamosc: BASS, BASSIOR, BECHER, TENENBAUM, FAL(E)K, GELIEBTER

Subject: Researching a birth in ZAMOSC (Poland),1820
From: "Mendelssohn" <mendelssohn@worldonline.fr>
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:22:03 +0100

Could anybody say to me where I have to write to research a birth in Zamosc
(Poland) in the year 1820? I found no Mormon's microfilm for that period and
I would like to find the birth of Emanuel Mendelssohn: I just know the year
and the name of the city.
Kind regards,
Florence Mendelssohn, Paris (France)

Researching :
- >from Poland (19th) DUTLINGER, KOHN, MENDELSSOHN,PRENTKI.
- in Israël(now?) :RABINOVITCH (a doctor and a lawyer related to
Mendelssohns >from Warszawa).
- >from Char'kov and St Petersburg (19th century) : RUBINSTEIN.

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JRI Poland #Poland Re: Researching a birth in ZAMOSC (Poland),1820 #poland

Shelley K. Pollero <rkpollero@...>
 

Dear Zamosc researchers,

There are 1820 Jewish vital records in the Zamosc Roman Catholic Parish Records in the
FHL. See Films #0771639 and # 0771641. I found my great-great-grandfather's half brother
(1820) and my great-great-grandmother's birth record (1818). There are annual indexes at
the end of each year beginning 1812. Prior to 1812, the records are not indexed. (Hint:
look for Hebrew signatures of witnesses) The format for the records is the same as the
later Polish records.

There are other RC films with Jewish vital records prior to 1826, when separate Jewish
Civil Records for Zamosc began. Those 1811 and earlier are not indexed. I began a listing
of Zamosc Jewish births, marriages and deaths in the RC records for 1810 and 1811. It is
not at all complete, even somewhat sporadic, but I have a lot of names (in a notebook, not
computerized). I'd be happy to look up a surname, and might be motivated to make a
database of what I found. Some day....

Shelley Kellerman Pollero
Severna Park, Maryland
rkpollero@starpower.net

Researching in Zamosc: BASS, BASSIOR, BECHER, TENENBAUM, FAL(E)K, GELIEBTER

Subject: Researching a birth in ZAMOSC (Poland),1820
From: "Mendelssohn" <mendelssohn@worldonline.fr>
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:22:03 +0100

Could anybody say to me where I have to write to research a birth in Zamosc
(Poland) in the year 1820? I found no Mormon's microfilm for that period and
I would like to find the birth of Emanuel Mendelssohn: I just know the year
and the name of the city.
Kind regards,
Florence Mendelssohn, Paris (France)

Researching :
- >from Poland (19th) DUTLINGER, KOHN, MENDELSSOHN,PRENTKI.
- in Israël(now?) :RABINOVITCH (a doctor and a lawyer related to
Mendelssohns >from Warszawa).
- >from Char'kov and St Petersburg (19th century) : RUBINSTEIN.

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Re: Subject Lines; Pro's and Con's--and doing do one a favor #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/6/01 4:15:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, Judith
Hamilton; edenland@dialstart.net writes:
<< I totally agree with Nancy. There is always the possibility of being to
help someone or, on a more selfish note, the reasearch names at the bottom
may strike a chord. I may not read every word but each posting receives a
look over. >>

I wrote my message encouraging meaningful subject lines to be helpful
(especially to newbies), not to criticize. The new movement
encouraging "Keep Writing Obscure Subject Lines," does no one a favor.
(Incidentally, this is laid out *very* clear in the Jewishgen FAQ, and
is often the subject of postings here.)

Yes, there is a core group of knowlegable genealogists who take their work
very seriously, put in long hours, and are always ready to help others if
they can. But they're not going to open an "Urgent Help" message on the
offchance they may glean a nugget. (I'd more profitably spend my time
poring over telephone books.)

If you want to make sure that your message is read by those >from whom you
want a reply, make sure to write a subject line that will attract those
who may have some useful information. If you post a subject line "ViewMate
3256," I'm not going to spend a considerable amount of time opening it to
discover a question whether anyone can recognize the woman with your Aunt
Tillie. (Do I have the right not to open those other pesonal
messages, "Kootchy18+," "HotHot" or "Make enough in one month to retire
in luxury" on the offchance I may discover a long-lost ancestor?)

On the other hand, if the subject reads "Parochet, Frensdorf" I'll go in
there immediately and send you a translation plus much useful background
(perhaps even the family tree of the donors, or the building plan of the
synagogue) within 12 hours.

That's reality. And it makes absolute sense that the busier, serious and
more knowledgable researchers are unlikely to open anything they do not
think may have at least some relevance for us, just to keep those "Urgent
Help" people happy . It's not much to spend 30 seconds figuring out a
brief subject line that tells *Exactly* what you want. It takes less time
than the time we're asked to spend opening your file, trying to figure out
what it is you want, and then deleting it >from two or more datasets.

Writing a meaningful subject line is a courtesy to others--and an enormous
help to yourself. Not writing one means that those who may help probably
won't bother to answer. Simple as that, courtesy toward others and
expediency for you.

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER

MODERATOR NOTE: You can find the JewishGen Discussion Group Rules and
Guidelines at <http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/rules.htm>. Section
4.1 is entitled "What is the purpose of the subject line?"


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Subject Lines; Pro's and Con's--and doing do one a favor #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/6/01 4:15:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, Judith
Hamilton; edenland@dialstart.net writes:
<< I totally agree with Nancy. There is always the possibility of being to
help someone or, on a more selfish note, the reasearch names at the bottom
may strike a chord. I may not read every word but each posting receives a
look over. >>

I wrote my message encouraging meaningful subject lines to be helpful
(especially to newbies), not to criticize. The new movement
encouraging "Keep Writing Obscure Subject Lines," does no one a favor.
(Incidentally, this is laid out *very* clear in the Jewishgen FAQ, and
is often the subject of postings here.)

Yes, there is a core group of knowlegable genealogists who take their work
very seriously, put in long hours, and are always ready to help others if
they can. But they're not going to open an "Urgent Help" message on the
offchance they may glean a nugget. (I'd more profitably spend my time
poring over telephone books.)

If you want to make sure that your message is read by those >from whom you
want a reply, make sure to write a subject line that will attract those
who may have some useful information. If you post a subject line "ViewMate
3256," I'm not going to spend a considerable amount of time opening it to
discover a question whether anyone can recognize the woman with your Aunt
Tillie. (Do I have the right not to open those other pesonal
messages, "Kootchy18+," "HotHot" or "Make enough in one month to retire
in luxury" on the offchance I may discover a long-lost ancestor?)

On the other hand, if the subject reads "Parochet, Frensdorf" I'll go in
there immediately and send you a translation plus much useful background
(perhaps even the family tree of the donors, or the building plan of the
synagogue) within 12 hours.

That's reality. And it makes absolute sense that the busier, serious and
more knowledgable researchers are unlikely to open anything they do not
think may have at least some relevance for us, just to keep those "Urgent
Help" people happy . It's not much to spend 30 seconds figuring out a
brief subject line that tells *Exactly* what you want. It takes less time
than the time we're asked to spend opening your file, trying to figure out
what it is you want, and then deleting it >from two or more datasets.

Writing a meaningful subject line is a courtesy to others--and an enormous
help to yourself. Not writing one means that those who may help probably
won't bother to answer. Simple as that, courtesy toward others and
expediency for you.

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER

MODERATOR NOTE: You can find the JewishGen Discussion Group Rules and
Guidelines at <http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/rules.htm>. Section
4.1 is entitled "What is the purpose of the subject line?"


Re: Certainty of fatherhood #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/6/01 4:14:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Wachtel@aol.com writes:
<< Aaron and Moses were brothers and members of the tribe of Levi, and
other Levites, whether kohanim or not, might be expected to share a
similar ancestry. Self-identified levi'im were deliberately excluded from
the comparison. But of course Levites, or ancestors of Levites, might
also be ancestors of modern-day Jews whose tribal affiliation is
forgotten or (in the case of all tribes except Levi) unknown. >>

As I recall >from a discussion with one of the Haifa researchers into the
Levites, Levites today fall largely into one of three gene pools. There is
a "tradition" that not enough Levites returned >from Babylonian exile to
serve the needs of the new Temple in Jerusalem; accordingly, other
families were recruited to the task.

I've wondered why so many Kohanim returned and so few Levi'im. My
speculation is that Kohanim could perform their functions--and obtain
their living and their perks--only by serving in the Temple in Jerusalem,
and thus many or most returned to Jerusalem for, among others, economic
reasons. Levi'im, on the other hand were teachers, scribes, singers and
poets. They probably could earn a decent living among the Jews in the
Baylonian diaspora.

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Certainty of fatherhood #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/6/01 4:14:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Wachtel@aol.com writes:
<< Aaron and Moses were brothers and members of the tribe of Levi, and
other Levites, whether kohanim or not, might be expected to share a
similar ancestry. Self-identified levi'im were deliberately excluded from
the comparison. But of course Levites, or ancestors of Levites, might
also be ancestors of modern-day Jews whose tribal affiliation is
forgotten or (in the case of all tribes except Levi) unknown. >>

As I recall >from a discussion with one of the Haifa researchers into the
Levites, Levites today fall largely into one of three gene pools. There is
a "tradition" that not enough Levites returned >from Babylonian exile to
serve the needs of the new Temple in Jerusalem; accordingly, other
families were recruited to the task.

I've wondered why so many Kohanim returned and so few Levi'im. My
speculation is that Kohanim could perform their functions--and obtain
their living and their perks--only by serving in the Temple in Jerusalem,
and thus many or most returned to Jerusalem for, among others, economic
reasons. Levi'im, on the other hand were teachers, scribes, singers and
poets. They probably could earn a decent living among the Jews in the
Baylonian diaspora.

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


Re: Certainty of fatherhood #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Another person noted that 50 percent of kohanim did not have the expected
markers, and also wondered whether Aaron had a unique Y chromosome variant
that his brother Moses did not.
[snip]
Aaron and Moses were brothers and members of the tribe of Levi, and other
Levites, whether kohanim or not, might be expected to share a similar
ancestry. Self-identified levi'im were deliberately excluded >from the
comparison. But of course Levites, or ancestors of Levites, might also be
ancestors of modern-day Jews whose tribal affiliation is forgotten or (in
the case of all tribes except Levi) unknown.
Alan Wachtel
The scientific foundations of these genetic studies (one of putative
kohanim and the other of Jews not claiming that line of descent) are
fascinating. But it's not a great idea to muddy the waters by confusing
scientific facts with mythic history, as in the above example.

The fact is, in the first place, we have not a shred of proof or certainty
that Aaron and Moses were historical rather than mythic characters. And
if they were, we have no certainty in the second place that they were
actual bloodbrothers rather than leaders of rival priestly groups, as
scholarly analysis of the biblical texts has made clear. Modern biblical
scholarship has pointed out time and again that the evidence against those
two assumptions is far stronger than for them, and have presented logically
convincing explanations of how the texts of various Israelite traditions
were brought together by an ingenious editorial process during the 5th or
4th centuries BCE (probably by priests of the school of Ezra) , and how the
assertion that Aaron and Moses were brothers was introduced in order to
harmonize what were originally separate and divergent traditions.

Whatever the actual historical truth, it clearly is not a good idea to
take such biblical statements at face value, treating them as scientific
facts that can be used to buttress (or even formulate) scientific theories
about how much genetic connection we should expect to find between the two
Israelite castes known as Kohanim and Levi'im, or between those two on the
one hand and plain "Israelites" on the other hand.

I am all in favor of these genetic studies, if conducted with proper
scientific protocols -- but not otherwise.

Judith Romney Wegner.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Certainty of fatherhood #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Another person noted that 50 percent of kohanim did not have the expected
markers, and also wondered whether Aaron had a unique Y chromosome variant
that his brother Moses did not.
[snip]
Aaron and Moses were brothers and members of the tribe of Levi, and other
Levites, whether kohanim or not, might be expected to share a similar
ancestry. Self-identified levi'im were deliberately excluded >from the
comparison. But of course Levites, or ancestors of Levites, might also be
ancestors of modern-day Jews whose tribal affiliation is forgotten or (in
the case of all tribes except Levi) unknown.
Alan Wachtel
The scientific foundations of these genetic studies (one of putative
kohanim and the other of Jews not claiming that line of descent) are
fascinating. But it's not a great idea to muddy the waters by confusing
scientific facts with mythic history, as in the above example.

The fact is, in the first place, we have not a shred of proof or certainty
that Aaron and Moses were historical rather than mythic characters. And
if they were, we have no certainty in the second place that they were
actual bloodbrothers rather than leaders of rival priestly groups, as
scholarly analysis of the biblical texts has made clear. Modern biblical
scholarship has pointed out time and again that the evidence against those
two assumptions is far stronger than for them, and have presented logically
convincing explanations of how the texts of various Israelite traditions
were brought together by an ingenious editorial process during the 5th or
4th centuries BCE (probably by priests of the school of Ezra) , and how the
assertion that Aaron and Moses were brothers was introduced in order to
harmonize what were originally separate and divergent traditions.

Whatever the actual historical truth, it clearly is not a good idea to
take such biblical statements at face value, treating them as scientific
facts that can be used to buttress (or even formulate) scientific theories
about how much genetic connection we should expect to find between the two
Israelite castes known as Kohanim and Levi'im, or between those two on the
one hand and plain "Israelites" on the other hand.

I am all in favor of these genetic studies, if conducted with proper
scientific protocols -- but not otherwise.

Judith Romney Wegner.


Re: Oknis Ugionis Pazvintas #general

NFatouros@...
 

In her 02-05-01 message Wendy Roth wanted to know about "Oknis, Ugionis,
and Pazvintas," which she thought might be in Latvia.

On the Internet I learned that Ugionis is in Lithuania and sent Ms. Roth
its map coordinates.

For a description of Pazvintas or Pasvitinys (its current name)or
Pasvintas or Pashvitin, or Poshvitin (its Yiddish name), ) I recommend
Nancy Schoenburg's and Stuart Schoenburg's " Lithuanian Jewish
Communities." Jason Aronson,1996. They devote about a page and a half
to this town.

As for Ms.Roth's "Oknis," I found nothing anywhere, but my 1962
Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer referred me >from its entry for a town called
"Okny" to "Krasnye Okny" and under that entry it said that it was known
until about 1935 as just plain "Okny." It is in the West Odessa oblast, 28
miles south southwest of Balta. Its residents had something to do with
wines, and did metalworking. Of course, "Krasnye Okny" is not "Oknis"
and, though I didn't check its exact location on my maps, it seems that it
was not near any town in Lithania. Ms. Roth should try Jewishgen's
Shtetlseeker and plug in the map coordinates I sent her for Ungionis.
Maybe "Oknis" will turn up.

Probably Jewishgenners of Lithuanian or Latvia origin can tell
Ms. Roth more about her towns.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Oknis Ugionis Pazvintas #general

NFatouros@...
 

In her 02-05-01 message Wendy Roth wanted to know about "Oknis, Ugionis,
and Pazvintas," which she thought might be in Latvia.

On the Internet I learned that Ugionis is in Lithuania and sent Ms. Roth
its map coordinates.

For a description of Pazvintas or Pasvitinys (its current name)or
Pasvintas or Pashvitin, or Poshvitin (its Yiddish name), ) I recommend
Nancy Schoenburg's and Stuart Schoenburg's " Lithuanian Jewish
Communities." Jason Aronson,1996. They devote about a page and a half
to this town.

As for Ms.Roth's "Oknis," I found nothing anywhere, but my 1962
Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer referred me >from its entry for a town called
"Okny" to "Krasnye Okny" and under that entry it said that it was known
until about 1935 as just plain "Okny." It is in the West Odessa oblast, 28
miles south southwest of Balta. Its residents had something to do with
wines, and did metalworking. Of course, "Krasnye Okny" is not "Oknis"
and, though I didn't check its exact location on my maps, it seems that it
was not near any town in Lithania. Ms. Roth should try Jewishgen's
Shtetlseeker and plug in the map coordinates I sent her for Ungionis.
Maybe "Oknis" will turn up.

Probably Jewishgenners of Lithuanian or Latvia origin can tell
Ms. Roth more about her towns.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.


NEW GENEALOGICAL BOOKS! #southafrica

Sandyhshor@...
 

The JewishGen Mall <jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall> is looking for new books of
genealogical interest to add to their current selection.

If any of you are aware of any newly published titles we would like to hear
from you.
We would also appreciate your recommendations. Just make sure the book is
not already listed on our Mall as we currently have well over 400 titles
(with new additions weekly) plus videos and software.


Please remember that we need an email address for the publisher in every case.

Thanks for your help.

Sandy and Don Hirschhorn
Co-Managers JewishGen Mall
Boca Raton, Florida
Email: sandyhshor@aol.com
Fax: 561-883-3253


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica NEW GENEALOGICAL BOOKS! #southafrica

Sandyhshor@...
 

The JewishGen Mall <jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall> is looking for new books of
genealogical interest to add to their current selection.

If any of you are aware of any newly published titles we would like to hear
from you.
We would also appreciate your recommendations. Just make sure the book is
not already listed on our Mall as we currently have well over 400 titles
(with new additions weekly) plus videos and software.


Please remember that we need an email address for the publisher in every case.

Thanks for your help.

Sandy and Don Hirschhorn
Co-Managers JewishGen Mall
Boca Raton, Florida
Email: sandyhshor@aol.com
Fax: 561-883-3253


Re: SURNAMES and research towns #ukraine

haflo <haflo@...>
 

Dear Members,

I've received some "panicked" email asking why Bobby is "including surnames
and town names being researched by SIG members on our website or in our
digest". To misquote the senior Bush, "read my message"!

If you've been following the Digest recently, you will know that this
information is not at all for an online database. Bobby Furst has
graciously put together a name/town list (with additional information) as a
tool for assessing U SIG research needs, & for compiling our Geographical
Dictionary of the Ukraine. Hopefully, even names that "are not being
researched" will be submitted to her. I sent her a copy of my Family Tree
Report with all the names of those who were born in the Ukraine - even
those who "married in", & whom I'm not following up on. It's a reference
tool, not a genealogical search tool, & it will not be available as, or in
any way duplicating, a JGFF.

Our Coordinators are going to use this list when we need *active*
volunteers who are interested in a specific area or town. It saves us the
time of having to go onto the net each time we want names. The U SIG list
has already been reminded (in conjunction with this request) that it's not
a substitiute for the JGFF, & that you are to put any new names onto the
JGFF while you are also doing this. Hopefully, you will have read the
several letters that I've submitted about the JGen searchable databases.
I'm re-posting this message on our Digest tonight for anyone else who may
have jumped to the wrong conclusions.

Sincerely,
Florence Elman
(U SIG Coordinator)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: SURNAMES and research towns #ukraine

haflo <haflo@...>
 

Dear Members,

I've received some "panicked" email asking why Bobby is "including surnames
and town names being researched by SIG members on our website or in our
digest". To misquote the senior Bush, "read my message"!

If you've been following the Digest recently, you will know that this
information is not at all for an online database. Bobby Furst has
graciously put together a name/town list (with additional information) as a
tool for assessing U SIG research needs, & for compiling our Geographical
Dictionary of the Ukraine. Hopefully, even names that "are not being
researched" will be submitted to her. I sent her a copy of my Family Tree
Report with all the names of those who were born in the Ukraine - even
those who "married in", & whom I'm not following up on. It's a reference
tool, not a genealogical search tool, & it will not be available as, or in
any way duplicating, a JGFF.

Our Coordinators are going to use this list when we need *active*
volunteers who are interested in a specific area or town. It saves us the
time of having to go onto the net each time we want names. The U SIG list
has already been reminded (in conjunction with this request) that it's not
a substitiute for the JGFF, & that you are to put any new names onto the
JGFF while you are also doing this. Hopefully, you will have read the
several letters that I've submitted about the JGen searchable databases.
I'm re-posting this message on our Digest tonight for anyone else who may
have jumped to the wrong conclusions.

Sincerely,
Florence Elman
(U SIG Coordinator)


1915 Vilnius City Directory #lithuania

sman@...
 

A few of us began to transliterate the 1915 Vilnius City Directory
a little while ago.

The initial transliteration is mostly done.

I am looking for those who may want to help proof read a section
so that it can be sent to the ALD.

If you would like to help, please contact me at sman@uscom.com
You do not have to know Russian, just be able to pronounce Cyrillic.

Thanks
Scott Noar
sman@uscom.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania 1915 Vilnius City Directory #lithuania

sman@...
 

A few of us began to transliterate the 1915 Vilnius City Directory
a little while ago.

The initial transliteration is mostly done.

I am looking for those who may want to help proof read a section
so that it can be sent to the ALD.

If you would like to help, please contact me at sman@uscom.com
You do not have to know Russian, just be able to pronounce Cyrillic.

Thanks
Scott Noar
sman@uscom.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately


Volunteer Russian Readers Needed at USHMM #ukraine

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

Are there any members of the SIG (or people you know) who can read
printed Russian and are willing to volunteer one day a week at the
United States Holocaust Museum research department? Obviously,
volunteers will have to live in the greater Washington DC area.
Volunteers will not have to speak or write Russian. If you can
volunteer or want more details, please contact Peter Lande <plande@ushmm.org>.

At this time there are no Russian readers to fullfill requests for
copies of pages >from microfilms of the Extraordinary State Commission to
Investigate German-Fascist Crimes Committed on Soviet Territory. These
films include the accounts of what happen to residents of a large number
of shtetls in Belarus and Ukraine where Jews once lived. In addition to
the acounts, the films have lists of residents.
--
David M. Fox
mailto:fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD USA
Belarus SIG Coordinator


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Volunteer Russian Readers Needed at USHMM #ukraine

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

Are there any members of the SIG (or people you know) who can read
printed Russian and are willing to volunteer one day a week at the
United States Holocaust Museum research department? Obviously,
volunteers will have to live in the greater Washington DC area.
Volunteers will not have to speak or write Russian. If you can
volunteer or want more details, please contact Peter Lande <plande@ushmm.org>.

At this time there are no Russian readers to fullfill requests for
copies of pages >from microfilms of the Extraordinary State Commission to
Investigate German-Fascist Crimes Committed on Soviet Territory. These
films include the accounts of what happen to residents of a large number
of shtetls in Belarus and Ukraine where Jews once lived. In addition to
the acounts, the films have lists of residents.
--
David M. Fox
mailto:fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD USA
Belarus SIG Coordinator


Archives at United Synagogue and London Beth Din UK #general

Maurice Hoffman <Rosie@...>
 

Below is a summary of genealogical records of the Chief Rabbi and United
Synagogue >from an articles in Family Tree Magazine July 1992 written by
Jeremy Phillips, the then registrar of the court of the Chief Rabbi. Note
that the office of the Chief Rabbi and the United synagogue are separate
organisations although located at the same address.

735 High Road, North Finchley, London, N12 0US

for Beth Din
Contact Rabbi Dr Shindler Director marriage authorisation office or David
Frei Registrarof the London Beth Din

020 8343 6301 fax 020 8343 6310
info@londonbethdin.fsnet.co.uk

United Synagogue
Chief Executive
George Willman
(there is a web site)

Office of the Chief Rabbi

Beth Din

Proceedings books 1876-1938, 1940 to date (confidential)

Case files adoptions, conversions, divorces, Jewish and matrimonial status,
c 1945 to date (confidential)

Certificates of evidence containing details of the applicant's date and
place of birth, and /or marriage abroad required as proof of evidence etc
1921 (incomplete) 1922-1966

Marriage Authorisation Office

Marriage Authorisation: Metropolitan and Provincial Series 1845 to
February 1880
Marriage Authorisation General Series February 1880 to date

United Synagogue

Printed list of members arranged alphabetically by congregation 1885-1939
later records confidential

Registers

Great Synagogue Births 1770-1887
Marriages 1791-1973
Kethubot 1837-1889
Burials 1791-1872

Hambro Synagogue Births 1770-1872
Marriages 1797-1938
Kethubot 1845-1938
Burials 1797-1872

New Synagogue Births 1774-1896
Marriages 1791-1823, 1837-1992
Kethubot 1823-1875
Burials 1810-1872

Bayswater Synagogue Births 1865-1926
Marriages 1865-1965
Kethubot 1865-1865

Registers of closed burial grounds

Brady Street Great Synagogue portion 1796-1858
West Ham Great Synagogue portion 1858-1872
West Ham New Synagogue portion 1858-1872

Burial Society

General Burial Registers July 1872-1912
Burial Authorisation Registers July 1872 to date

Maurice Hoffman
Wembley
Email: RosieHA9@bigfoot.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Archives at United Synagogue and London Beth Din UK #general

Maurice Hoffman <Rosie@...>
 

Below is a summary of genealogical records of the Chief Rabbi and United
Synagogue >from an articles in Family Tree Magazine July 1992 written by
Jeremy Phillips, the then registrar of the court of the Chief Rabbi. Note
that the office of the Chief Rabbi and the United synagogue are separate
organisations although located at the same address.

735 High Road, North Finchley, London, N12 0US

for Beth Din
Contact Rabbi Dr Shindler Director marriage authorisation office or David
Frei Registrarof the London Beth Din

020 8343 6301 fax 020 8343 6310
info@londonbethdin.fsnet.co.uk

United Synagogue
Chief Executive
George Willman
(there is a web site)

Office of the Chief Rabbi

Beth Din

Proceedings books 1876-1938, 1940 to date (confidential)

Case files adoptions, conversions, divorces, Jewish and matrimonial status,
c 1945 to date (confidential)

Certificates of evidence containing details of the applicant's date and
place of birth, and /or marriage abroad required as proof of evidence etc
1921 (incomplete) 1922-1966

Marriage Authorisation Office

Marriage Authorisation: Metropolitan and Provincial Series 1845 to
February 1880
Marriage Authorisation General Series February 1880 to date

United Synagogue

Printed list of members arranged alphabetically by congregation 1885-1939
later records confidential

Registers

Great Synagogue Births 1770-1887
Marriages 1791-1973
Kethubot 1837-1889
Burials 1791-1872

Hambro Synagogue Births 1770-1872
Marriages 1797-1938
Kethubot 1845-1938
Burials 1797-1872

New Synagogue Births 1774-1896
Marriages 1791-1823, 1837-1992
Kethubot 1823-1875
Burials 1810-1872

Bayswater Synagogue Births 1865-1926
Marriages 1865-1965
Kethubot 1865-1865

Registers of closed burial grounds

Brady Street Great Synagogue portion 1796-1858
West Ham Great Synagogue portion 1858-1872
West Ham New Synagogue portion 1858-1872

Burial Society

General Burial Registers July 1872-1912
Burial Authorisation Registers July 1872 to date

Maurice Hoffman
Wembley
Email: RosieHA9@bigfoot.com