The Jewish Genealogical Society of Los Angeles is meeting on Sunday January
28, 2001 at 1:30 p.m.. The program is:

Needling In a Haystack:
Making the Most of a Research-Based Trip to Your Ancestral Shtetl

The speaker is Marco Weinman a UCLA graduate of Linguistic Anthropology and
JGSLA member who has done personal genealogical research in Poland, Belarus
and the Ukraine.

Many of us have yearnings to visit the Old World shtetls of our ancestors
and with Eastern Europe and Russia becoming more accessible to Westerners
such travel has now become possible. Although shtetls of yore have not
survived the ravages of war and time, much of genealogical and historical
value has, and is there to be discovered by those diligent and eager enough
to search for it in person. Key to making the research-based trip
successful is understanding more about how the Polish and post-Soviet
archives operate, their accessibility to foreigners, what types of records
can be found in them and what remnants of a vanished Jewish culture can be
realistically expected to be found in our ancestral shtetls.

Location: Valley Cities Jewish Community Center
13164 Burbank Blvd. Van Nuys, CA

Fee: none: Non-members welcome

For more information on the JGSLA, please visit our website at:
http://www.jgsla.org

Jan Meisels Allen
VP Programs, JGSLA
Agoura Hills, CA

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Los Angeles is meeting on Sunday January
28, 2001 at 1:30 p.m.. The program is:

Needling In a Haystack:
Making the Most of a Research-Based Trip to Your Ancestral Shtetl

The speaker is Marco Weinman a UCLA graduate of Linguistic Anthropology and
JGSLA member who has done personal genealogical research in Poland, Belarus
and the Ukraine.

Many of us have yearnings to visit the Old World shtetls of our ancestors
and with Eastern Europe and Russia becoming more accessible to Westerners
such travel has now become possible. Although shtetls of yore have not
survived the ravages of war and time, much of genealogical and historical
value has, and is there to be discovered by those diligent and eager enough
to search for it in person. Key to making the research-based trip
successful is understanding more about how the Polish and post-Soviet
archives operate, their accessibility to foreigners, what types of records
can be found in them and what remnants of a vanished Jewish culture can be
realistically expected to be found in our ancestral shtetls.

Location: Valley Cities Jewish Community Center
13164 Burbank Blvd. Van Nuys, CA

Fee: none: Non-members welcome

For more information on the JGSLA, please visit our website at:
http://www.jgsla.org

Jan Meisels Allen
VP Programs, JGSLA
Agoura Hills, CA

Dear Jewishgenners,

If you are going to be in the Sarasota-Manatee area on Sunday, January 21,
2001, please join us at 1:00 PM at the JCC, 582 S. McIntosh Road, Sarasota
for our JGS of SW Florida meeting.

Our featured speaker is Howard Margol, President of IAJGS (International
Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies). Also we have as our special
guest Michael Brenner (a director-at-large of the IAJGS and a past president
of JGS of NY).

Kim Sheintal, President
Jewish Genealogical Society of Southwest Florida

Dear Jewishgenners,

If you are going to be in the Sarasota-Manatee area on Sunday, January 21,
2001, please join us at 1:00 PM at the JCC, 582 S. McIntosh Road, Sarasota
for our JGS of SW Florida meeting.

Our featured speaker is Howard Margol, President of IAJGS (International
Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies). Also we have as our special
guest Michael Brenner (a director-at-large of the IAJGS and a past president
of JGS of NY).

Kim Sheintal, President
Jewish Genealogical Society of Southwest Florida

The JGS of Michigan will be having a library / research meeting on Sunday,
January 21st >from 12:30pm to 3:00pm at its library at Temple Beth El.

Jim Grey will be speaking on how to plan a family reunion. We have many
new additions to our library collection and all are invited to attend.

Temple Beth El is located at the northwest corner of Telegraph and
14 Mile Road.
Marc D. Manson

MAN'SKIJ>MANSKY>MANSON (Volkovysk; Slonim, Belarus)
WAGNER (Austria; Ft.Wayne, IN; Toledo, OH)
MAC>MATZ (Skaryszew;Radom; Poland) POMERANTZ (Brest-Litovsk - Belarus)
TURUFF--TUREFF (Russia; New York) BROCK (New York)

The JGS of Michigan will be having a library / research meeting on Sunday,
January 21st >from 12:30pm to 3:00pm at its library at Temple Beth El.

Jim Grey will be speaking on how to plan a family reunion. We have many
new additions to our library collection and all are invited to attend.

Temple Beth El is located at the northwest corner of Telegraph and
14 Mile Road.
Marc D. Manson

MAN'SKIJ>MANSKY>MANSON (Volkovysk; Slonim, Belarus)
WAGNER (Austria; Ft.Wayne, IN; Toledo, OH)
MAC>MATZ (Skaryszew;Radom; Poland) POMERANTZ (Brest-Litovsk - Belarus)
TURUFF--TUREFF (Russia; New York) BROCK (New York)

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Georgia invites you to our January
meeting.

Date: Sunday, January 21, 2001

Place: Cobb County Library

Time: 2:00PM to 5:00PM.
There will be a tour of the research material beginning at 1:00 P.M.

Cobb County Library
Georgia Room
266 Roswell Street
Marietta, GA 30060
(770) 528 2320

For further information see our website at www.jgsg.org

Sandi Goldsmith - Alpharetta, GA

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Georgia invites you to our January
meeting.

Date: Sunday, January 21, 2001

Place: Cobb County Library

Time: 2:00PM to 5:00PM.
There will be a tour of the research material beginning at 1:00 P.M.

Cobb County Library
Georgia Room
266 Roswell Street
Marietta, GA 30060
(770) 528 2320

For further information see our website at www.jgsg.org

Sandi Goldsmith - Alpharetta, GA

dear SaSig-ers
my name is Shmuel Rubens, Israeli who lives now in Germany Paderborn.
in my family to which I collect now information we had two people who
went shortly before
the war to south africa, Johannesburg. I am trying to trace them and/or
their decendents.

by searching the cemetry lists >from the Jewish Cemetry Project and
comparing names
and birth dates I think I have traced their graves in the westpark
cemetry Johannesburg.
Do you know maybe if there is some genealogist or family researcher that
can look these
graves for me up and maybe take a picture of them and the script from
the stone ? ?

the names that I suspect that they are my relatives are :

1.
one is the grave of Erna Cahn, a direct cousin of my father.:
, born 24.9.1909 in Erle / raesfeld Germany
immigrated 1938 to South Africa , lived in Johannesburg
married three times . first Husband Erich Haymann , other
husbands unknown
the grave which suites this description is
DOPPELT, Erna
1909 - 17 Aug 1991
location in the cemetry according to the Cemetry project CD
l: M 446

and probably the grave of her husband:

DOPPELT, Leon
1900 - 6 Nov 1969
l: M 445

2. the second possible grave is a grave of another cousin of my father ,
Martha Falk
born Rubens.

Martha was born in 1888 in Linden Hannover
and moved to south africa , Johannesburg maybe before WW2 .
she lived some time with her cousin Erna .
she died in 1946, a fact we know >from letters >from this time


the Grave that exactly suites to this description
is the Grave of

FALK, Martha
1888 - 22 Oct 1946

location in the Cemetry westpark

l: F 78

and maybe her Husband :
FALK, Isidor
1877 c - 23 Dec 1957

location in the Cemetry westpark
l: J 322

my aim is to try to verify >from the photo or the inscript
or on the grave inscript that the maiden name of Erna Doppelt was
really Cahn,
and that the Maiden of Martha Falk was really Rubens.
and then if possible to look for possible still living relatives of them

Best regards and thanks for the help

Shmuel Rubens
holsteiner weg 37
33178 Borchen
Germany

dear SaSig-ers
my name is Shmuel Rubens, Israeli who lives now in Germany Paderborn.
in my family to which I collect now information we had two people who
went shortly before
the war to south africa, Johannesburg. I am trying to trace them and/or
their decendents.

by searching the cemetry lists >from the Jewish Cemetry Project and
comparing names
and birth dates I think I have traced their graves in the westpark
cemetry Johannesburg.
Do you know maybe if there is some genealogist or family researcher that
can look these
graves for me up and maybe take a picture of them and the script from
the stone ? ?

the names that I suspect that they are my relatives are :

1.
one is the grave of Erna Cahn, a direct cousin of my father.:
, born 24.9.1909 in Erle / raesfeld Germany
immigrated 1938 to South Africa , lived in Johannesburg
married three times . first Husband Erich Haymann , other
husbands unknown
the grave which suites this description is
DOPPELT, Erna
1909 - 17 Aug 1991
location in the cemetry according to the Cemetry project CD
l: M 446

and probably the grave of her husband:

DOPPELT, Leon
1900 - 6 Nov 1969
l: M 445

2. the second possible grave is a grave of another cousin of my father ,
Martha Falk
born Rubens.

Martha was born in 1888 in Linden Hannover
and moved to south africa , Johannesburg maybe before WW2 .
she lived some time with her cousin Erna .
she died in 1946, a fact we know >from letters >from this time


the Grave that exactly suites to this description
is the Grave of

FALK, Martha
1888 - 22 Oct 1946

location in the Cemetry westpark

l: F 78

and maybe her Husband :
FALK, Isidor
1877 c - 23 Dec 1957

location in the Cemetry westpark
l: J 322

my aim is to try to verify >from the photo or the inscript
or on the grave inscript that the maiden name of Erna Doppelt was
really Cahn,
and that the Maiden of Martha Falk was really Rubens.
and then if possible to look for possible still living relatives of them

Best regards and thanks for the help

Shmuel Rubens
holsteiner weg 37
33178 Borchen
Germany

I am researching the SCHLANGER family with roots in the Austro-Hungarian
empire (see my previous post 14/01/00). After searching Vienna databases I
have come up with the following Austrian names:

Dormant Foreign Account (Postsporkasse report):
Schlanger Ludwig

1938 Property List:
Schlanger Regina
Schlanger Gisela b. 25/10/1907

The following name was sent to me by an Australian researcher:
Schlanger Lenka (living in Australia) - married to Elemer Fried probably

from Hungry

At this stage I have not linked any of these names to my family tree.

Harry Schlanger
Melbourne, Australia
hps@elite.net.au

I am researching the SCHLANGER family with roots in the Austro-Hungarian
empire (see my previous post 14/01/00). After searching Vienna databases I
have come up with the following Austrian names:

Dormant Foreign Account (Postsporkasse report):
Schlanger Ludwig

1938 Property List:
Schlanger Regina
Schlanger Gisela b. 25/10/1907

The following name was sent to me by an Australian researcher:
Schlanger Lenka (living in Australia) - married to Elemer Fried probably

from Hungry

At this stage I have not linked any of these names to my family tree.

Harry Schlanger
Melbourne, Australia
hps@elite.net.au

Dear Fellow JewishGenners,

This isn't exactly genealogy, but it is a search for some Jewish
New Yorkers, so I hope you'll indulge me, as you did back in 1998.

As a volunteer "people finder" for my Bronx HS of Science Class
of '63 I've helped track down a few hundred alumni but some are
still--or newly--missing. Search tools and sources have included

* CD-ROM, Internet, and paper phone directories
* Internet search engines (especially Google and NorthernLight)
* the Social Security Death Index (for parents, and for a few alums)
* parents' obituaries and cemetery records
* credit headers
* AnyBirthday.com
* professional directories and associations (especially ama-assn.com
for the MDs and Martindale.com for the lawyers)
* college alumni associations
* the NYT Personal Names Index
* the NYC birth index
* voter registrations
* motor vehicle records
* neighbors, friends, employers

But budget and time limitations, the length of the list, and a
little bit of self control keep me >from pursuing lost classmates
with quite the zeal I'd apply to lost kin. Any information on
these individuals, born 1945-1947, would be most appreciated.
With your help, maybe I can drop this and go back to my relatives!

And if you'd like to know >from our yearbook whether your cousin
was on the Drosophila Squad (I kid you not!) or his/her 1963
address, feel free to ask. I also have a directory listing all
alumni 1938-1988.

Most of these people lived in the Bronx in 1963; a few lived
in Manhattan and Queens. Husbands' surnames are in parentheses.

Name Parent
-------------------------- ------
BLAIR Alpha Madeline
BLOOM Stephen B. Leo
BLOOM Steven H.
CITRON Irwin J. Sylvia
COHEN Diane
DAVIS (LEWIS) Terry
DIAMOND Robert Leo
DICHTER Daniel H
DICK Steven Jay
FARBMAN Alice M. Meyer
FEILER (ROSEN) Miriam
FRIEDMAN Michael P. Ida
FRIEDMAN Norman E. Edith
FRIEDMAN Ronald E. David
GESUND Lillian J. Arthur
GLIKSMAN Hedy Max
GOLDSMITH William J. Herbert
GOLDSTEIN (ZWACK) Jean Leonard
GROSMAN Renee R.
GRUHER Scott
HAAS Joanna F. MD

Snip

Thanks!

Renee

Renee Steinig
Dix Hills (Long Island), NY
rsteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us

MODERATOR NOTE: Alumni list edited. Please contact
Renee Steinig privately for the complete list.

Dear Fellow JewishGenners,

This isn't exactly genealogy, but it is a search for some Jewish
New Yorkers, so I hope you'll indulge me, as you did back in 1998.

As a volunteer "people finder" for my Bronx HS of Science Class
of '63 I've helped track down a few hundred alumni but some are
still--or newly--missing. Search tools and sources have included

* CD-ROM, Internet, and paper phone directories
* Internet search engines (especially Google and NorthernLight)
* the Social Security Death Index (for parents, and for a few alums)
* parents' obituaries and cemetery records
* credit headers
* AnyBirthday.com
* professional directories and associations (especially ama-assn.com
for the MDs and Martindale.com for the lawyers)
* college alumni associations
* the NYT Personal Names Index
* the NYC birth index
* voter registrations
* motor vehicle records
* neighbors, friends, employers

But budget and time limitations, the length of the list, and a
little bit of self control keep me >from pursuing lost classmates
with quite the zeal I'd apply to lost kin. Any information on
these individuals, born 1945-1947, would be most appreciated.
With your help, maybe I can drop this and go back to my relatives!

And if you'd like to know >from our yearbook whether your cousin
was on the Drosophila Squad (I kid you not!) or his/her 1963
address, feel free to ask. I also have a directory listing all
alumni 1938-1988.

Most of these people lived in the Bronx in 1963; a few lived
in Manhattan and Queens. Husbands' surnames are in parentheses.

Name Parent
-------------------------- ------
BLAIR Alpha Madeline
BLOOM Stephen B. Leo
BLOOM Steven H.
CITRON Irwin J. Sylvia
COHEN Diane
DAVIS (LEWIS) Terry
DIAMOND Robert Leo
DICHTER Daniel H
DICK Steven Jay
FARBMAN Alice M. Meyer
FEILER (ROSEN) Miriam
FRIEDMAN Michael P. Ida
FRIEDMAN Norman E. Edith
FRIEDMAN Ronald E. David
GESUND Lillian J. Arthur
GLIKSMAN Hedy Max
GOLDSMITH William J. Herbert
GOLDSTEIN (ZWACK) Jean Leonard
GROSMAN Renee R.
GRUHER Scott
HAAS Joanna F. MD

Snip

Thanks!

Renee

Renee Steinig
Dix Hills (Long Island), NY
rsteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us

MODERATOR NOTE: Alumni list edited. Please contact
Renee Steinig privately for the complete list.

Leonard Robbins asked,

I have been unable to locate a copy of the English Translation
of Stammbuch der Frankfurter Juden by Alexander Dietz which was published
about 1988

This is not surprising, as the translation was published in a limited edition
of no more than a couple of hundred copies, by advance subscription only.
Major institutions such as the Leo Baeck Institute were among the
subscribers, but because of the nature of the book I doubt that any would
be willing to allow it out on interlibrary loan. Most of the subscribers
were surviving Jews >from Frankfurt or members of major Frankfurt Jewish
families.

But the unavailability of this book is not quite the tragedy it might have
been. I was able to borrow the copy of a neighbor who is a survivor >from
Frankfurt and compare it to the original, obtained by interlibrary loan.
Many minor errors crept in in the translation and publication process,
inevitably. While these would be of little consequence in the narrative
sections, they render the gene.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA

Leonard Robbins asked,

I have been unable to locate a copy of the English Translation
of Stammbuch der Frankfurter Juden by Alexander Dietz which was published
about 1988

This is not surprising, as the translation was published in a limited edition
of no more than a couple of hundred copies, by advance subscription only.
Major institutions such as the Leo Baeck Institute were among the
subscribers, but because of the nature of the book I doubt that any would
be willing to allow it out on interlibrary loan. Most of the subscribers
were surviving Jews >from Frankfurt or members of major Frankfurt Jewish
families.

But the unavailability of this book is not quite the tragedy it might have
been. I was able to borrow the copy of a neighbor who is a survivor >from
Frankfurt and compare it to the original, obtained by interlibrary loan.
Many minor errors crept in in the translation and publication process,
inevitably. While these would be of little consequence in the narrative
sections, they render the gene.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA

Yes, look here:

http://www.avotaynu.com/gaontree.html

Joy Weaver

Irv Wiener wrote:

Yes, look here:

http://www.avotaynu.com/gaontree.html

Joy Weaver

Irv Wiener wrote:

Seeking information on the family and descendants of "Alter" Chaim SCHMAIS.
His family may have been >from Odessa, Ukraine, although he settled later in
the town of Soroki / Soroka, Ukraine, on the Moldova border, near the Dneister
River. He made carbonated soda and beer for a living.

"Alter" Chaim Schmais (b. 1865, maybe, or earlier) m. "Bobbe" Nechama *Unknown

1) Burach SCHMAIS (possible descendants in Argentina)
2) Yisroel SCHMAIS
3) Udel SCHMAIS
4) Maryem Baila "Bella" SCHMAIS m. Yechiel Mechel "Mikoel" BERCHES
---> had seven kids; know their names and trees
5) Moishe SCHMAIS m. "Bobbe" *UNKNOWN
---> had five kids; know their names and trees
6) Faiga Raisel SCHMAIS m. Yisroel LANGE, then m. Frank FISHMAN
---> had two kids by the first husband and four kids by the second
husband; know their names and trees
7) Chanah SCHMAIS m. Yosef FEINSTEIN
---> had five kids; know their names and trees

Other relevant names in the tree (surnames of various descendants):
BORENSTEIN, RAUCH, KLEINMAN, BERKIS, BERKES, GELERTER, FELDMAN, DENNENBERG,
SHERMAN, BLATT, ROSENBLATT --> RAYMOND, HELFGOTT, FISCHER --> WARREN,
YANKWITT, HIMMELSTEIN, and GERBS.

Brooke Schreier
asparagirl@dca.net

Philadelphia, PA

Searching: SCHREIER, SANDELMAN, RAPS, YUDKIN, and a host of others
Towns of research: Nadvorna (Nadvornaya / Nadvornaja), Ukraine; Kolomea
(Kolomyya / Kolomyja), Ukraine and a host of others

Seeking information on the family and descendants of "Alter" Chaim SCHMAIS.
His family may have been >from Odessa, Ukraine, although he settled later in
the town of Soroki / Soroka, Ukraine, on the Moldova border, near the Dneister
River. He made carbonated soda and beer for a living.

"Alter" Chaim Schmais (b. 1865, maybe, or earlier) m. "Bobbe" Nechama *Unknown

1) Burach SCHMAIS (possible descendants in Argentina)
2) Yisroel SCHMAIS
3) Udel SCHMAIS
4) Maryem Baila "Bella" SCHMAIS m. Yechiel Mechel "Mikoel" BERCHES
---> had seven kids; know their names and trees
5) Moishe SCHMAIS m. "Bobbe" *UNKNOWN
---> had five kids; know their names and trees
6) Faiga Raisel SCHMAIS m. Yisroel LANGE, then m. Frank FISHMAN
---> had two kids by the first husband and four kids by the second
husband; know their names and trees
7) Chanah SCHMAIS m. Yosef FEINSTEIN
---> had five kids; know their names and trees

Other relevant names in the tree (surnames of various descendants):
BORENSTEIN, RAUCH, KLEINMAN, BERKIS, BERKES, GELERTER, FELDMAN, DENNENBERG,
SHERMAN, BLATT, ROSENBLATT --> RAYMOND, HELFGOTT, FISCHER --> WARREN,
YANKWITT, HIMMELSTEIN, and GERBS.

Brooke Schreier
asparagirl@dca.net

Philadelphia, PA

Searching: SCHREIER, SANDELMAN, RAPS, YUDKIN, and a host of others
Towns of research: Nadvorna (Nadvornaya / Nadvornaja), Ukraine; Kolomea
(Kolomyya / Kolomyja), Ukraine and a host of others