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Re: Orsanno, Austria? #general

klein.francoise <klein.francoise@...>
 

Hi >from Paris

Might be in the North of Italy, at the time part of the Habsburg Empire
Best regards
Françoise Klein

I recently found one of my ancestors on the Hamburg "link to your roots"
site. This person traveled in 1890 >from Hamburg to New York. The data
says his "state of residence" is Osterreich(Austria), and place of
residence says "Orsanno". I looked this up in shtetlseeker and on a
couple of map sites and could not find this town. Has anyone ever heard
of it, and what it is now?
Re: European Education #general

klein.francoise <klein.francoise@...>
 

Hello >from France

Your friend might not know that 1500 was called the Renaissance in remote
Europe. Was far >from being Dark Ages. Jews can be traced provided that they
owned houses, fields or whatever could be registered officially. My family
could be traced back to 1648 because they never moved >from Alsace.
Concerning illiterate Jews, this poor soul can usefully refer to any history
book or come here to see old books at any museum.
Best regards

Françoise Klein


I was telling a friend that another friend has traced their family
back
to the 1500's. My friend told me that this was impossible because that
period of time was considered the Dark Ages and that written records were
not kept and that there was no possible way of this person or any person
going back that far in search for a Jewish family. She, being a teacher,
told me that the Jews back then did not write or read. I know that this
sounds ridiculous but I must check it out. I have searched my personal
library but unfortunately I cannot find any information on this
FISHKIND/Fischer/Fisher family #general

misaacso@...
 

I am researching the name FISHKIND. Nathan and Basha Leia FISHKIND
(probably >from Russia/Poland) had five children, some of which changed their
last name to FISHER/FISCHER (not sure which ones did, however).

Children of Nathan and Basha Leia:

1. Fanny FISHER m. Benjamin SCHULMAN (originally SCHUSTER)
2. Abraham FISHKIND (or FISHER) m ?
a. SOphie
b. Rose
c. Beverly
d. Ruth
e. Nat
3. Ita FISHKIND (or FISHER) m. ?
a. Rose m Louis Mazerow
b. Leo
c. Morris
d. Nathan
4. Joseph FISHKIND (or FISHER) m ?
a. Mae
b. Bertha (birdie)
c. Sally
d. Joe
5. Sonia FISKIND (or FISHER)

One of these FISHER families (>from New Jersey, possibly) had a family
reunion a few years back, but my mother-in-law couldn't make it. Now we all
wish very much that she could have!!!


Thanks for any help!
Farra Isaacson
NY, NY
Researching:

Poland: (Ciechanowiec) BORENSTEIN, LEVINE
(Sochaczew) HABERMAN, GOLDKRANTZ, FLEISCHMAN, JACOBOVITZ(S)
(Grodek) BEIGELEISEN, EINZUMPTNER
Russia: (Odessa): SCHWEIBISH, SCHWARTZMAN, MESHOURAS (MISHURIS), COHEN,
CHALFIN, KAPLOWITZ
Latvia (Riga): LIPSHITZ (all spellings), KUSLANSKY
[edited to 6 lines allowed - Mod.]
Devorah (Dverka) LIPSHITZ #general

misaacso@...
 

Hi everyone- this is a shot in the dark, but I figured what the heck.

I have always tried to find out what happened to the family of my
grandfather's half-sister, known as Dverka (Deborah, Devorah). Her maiden
name was LIPSHITZ, and her parents were Mendel and Pesha(?) LIPSHITZ. She
had one sister, Rebecca (Riva) who married Ezra ALTMAN. Dverka, born in
Riga, Latvia, married, and fled, probably to Poland, before the war. We
know she and her husband were killed, but we are unsure about her children.
Unfortunately, we don't know her married name or her husband's first name.
I am just hoping against hope that someone out there might recognize any of
this and could give me some info...? Thanks so much!!


Farra Isaacson
NY, NY
Researching:

Poland: (Ciechanowiec) BORENSTEIN, LEVINE
(Sochaczew) HABERMAN, GOLDKRANTZ, FLEISCHMAN, JACOBOVITZ(S)
(Grodek) BEIGELEISEN, EINZUMPTNER
Russia: (Odessa): SCHWEIBISH, SCHWARTZMAN, MESHOURAS (MISHURIS), COHEN,
CHALFIN, KAPLOWITZ
Latvia (Riga): LIPSHITZ (all spellings), KUSLANSKY
[edited to 6 lines allowed - Mod.]
Sources #general

BarbaraHarris <maybug@...>
 

George Morgan has a good, comprehensive essay on Sourcing your Materials on
Jan 5's Ancestry Daily News. (http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews ) I
strongly recommend it to everyone who has not been paying attention to this
issue. He includes a bibliography.

I know that most of us want to just get the information about our
ancestors, but for it to be taken seriously by others, particularly when
there is conflicting data, good sources are important.

Barbara Harris
Given Name Hodes(h) - Many thanks #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

To all the nice people who wrote me about the origin of the given name
Hodes,

a Big Thank You Very Much. To my amazement, there isn't a clear
consensus. Two main lines emerged: one which claims that it is a
Yiddish form of Hadassa (hadas = myrtle) and another which states
that it could be a variation of the Hebrew name Yehudit.

Personally I'm inclined to accept the first version, but that's my
guts feelings. My mother's Hebrew name was Hodes (pronounce Hodesh)
and since she was born in Hungary, in an orthodox family, I tend to
believe that Hadassa-Esther would probably be more likely a name my
grandfather would have selected. Yehudit-Judith was not such a
"kosher" name, at least then, in Hungary.

The reason for my inquiry was that we are going to give a Hebrew name
to our 3rd granddaughter. So, after this consultation, we decided to
call her Chaya Hadassa.

Once again, thanks to all who responded
the best
Tom
--

Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil
Researcher in Dnepropovosk, Ukraine, formerly Ekaterinoslav #general

Metersky@...
 

I am looking for a researcher in subject city. Has anyone worked with
someone you've liked and trusted? Please respond to <metersky@aol.com>

Mort Metersky
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Orsanno, Austria? #general

klein.francoise <klein.francoise@...>
 

Hi >from Paris

Might be in the North of Italy, at the time part of the Habsburg Empire
Best regards
Françoise Klein

I recently found one of my ancestors on the Hamburg "link to your roots"
site. This person traveled in 1890 >from Hamburg to New York. The data
says his "state of residence" is Osterreich(Austria), and place of
residence says "Orsanno". I looked this up in shtetlseeker and on a
couple of map sites and could not find this town. Has anyone ever heard
of it, and what it is now?
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: European Education #general

klein.francoise <klein.francoise@...>
 

Hello >from France

Your friend might not know that 1500 was called the Renaissance in remote
Europe. Was far >from being Dark Ages. Jews can be traced provided that they
owned houses, fields or whatever could be registered officially. My family
could be traced back to 1648 because they never moved >from Alsace.
Concerning illiterate Jews, this poor soul can usefully refer to any history
book or come here to see old books at any museum.
Best regards

Françoise Klein


I was telling a friend that another friend has traced their family
back
to the 1500's. My friend told me that this was impossible because that
period of time was considered the Dark Ages and that written records were
not kept and that there was no possible way of this person or any person
going back that far in search for a Jewish family. She, being a teacher,
told me that the Jews back then did not write or read. I know that this
sounds ridiculous but I must check it out. I have searched my personal
library but unfortunately I cannot find any information on this
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FISHKIND/Fischer/Fisher family #general

misaacso@...
 

I am researching the name FISHKIND. Nathan and Basha Leia FISHKIND
(probably >from Russia/Poland) had five children, some of which changed their
last name to FISHER/FISCHER (not sure which ones did, however).

Children of Nathan and Basha Leia:

1. Fanny FISHER m. Benjamin SCHULMAN (originally SCHUSTER)
2. Abraham FISHKIND (or FISHER) m ?
a. SOphie
b. Rose
c. Beverly
d. Ruth
e. Nat
3. Ita FISHKIND (or FISHER) m. ?
a. Rose m Louis Mazerow
b. Leo
c. Morris
d. Nathan
4. Joseph FISHKIND (or FISHER) m ?
a. Mae
b. Bertha (birdie)
c. Sally
d. Joe
5. Sonia FISKIND (or FISHER)

One of these FISHER families (>from New Jersey, possibly) had a family
reunion a few years back, but my mother-in-law couldn't make it. Now we all
wish very much that she could have!!!


Thanks for any help!
Farra Isaacson
NY, NY
Researching:

Poland: (Ciechanowiec) BORENSTEIN, LEVINE
(Sochaczew) HABERMAN, GOLDKRANTZ, FLEISCHMAN, JACOBOVITZ(S)
(Grodek) BEIGELEISEN, EINZUMPTNER
Russia: (Odessa): SCHWEIBISH, SCHWARTZMAN, MESHOURAS (MISHURIS), COHEN,
CHALFIN, KAPLOWITZ
Latvia (Riga): LIPSHITZ (all spellings), KUSLANSKY
[edited to 6 lines allowed - Mod.]
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Devorah (Dverka) LIPSHITZ #general

misaacso@...
 

Hi everyone- this is a shot in the dark, but I figured what the heck.

I have always tried to find out what happened to the family of my
grandfather's half-sister, known as Dverka (Deborah, Devorah). Her maiden
name was LIPSHITZ, and her parents were Mendel and Pesha(?) LIPSHITZ. She
had one sister, Rebecca (Riva) who married Ezra ALTMAN. Dverka, born in
Riga, Latvia, married, and fled, probably to Poland, before the war. We
know she and her husband were killed, but we are unsure about her children.
Unfortunately, we don't know her married name or her husband's first name.
I am just hoping against hope that someone out there might recognize any of
this and could give me some info...? Thanks so much!!


Farra Isaacson
NY, NY
Researching:

Poland: (Ciechanowiec) BORENSTEIN, LEVINE
(Sochaczew) HABERMAN, GOLDKRANTZ, FLEISCHMAN, JACOBOVITZ(S)
(Grodek) BEIGELEISEN, EINZUMPTNER
Russia: (Odessa): SCHWEIBISH, SCHWARTZMAN, MESHOURAS (MISHURIS), COHEN,
CHALFIN, KAPLOWITZ
Latvia (Riga): LIPSHITZ (all spellings), KUSLANSKY
[edited to 6 lines allowed - Mod.]
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sources #general

BarbaraHarris <maybug@...>
 

George Morgan has a good, comprehensive essay on Sourcing your Materials on
Jan 5's Ancestry Daily News. (http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews ) I
strongly recommend it to everyone who has not been paying attention to this
issue. He includes a bibliography.

I know that most of us want to just get the information about our
ancestors, but for it to be taken seriously by others, particularly when
there is conflicting data, good sources are important.

Barbara Harris
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Given Name Hodes(h) - Many thanks #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

To all the nice people who wrote me about the origin of the given name
Hodes,

a Big Thank You Very Much. To my amazement, there isn't a clear
consensus. Two main lines emerged: one which claims that it is a
Yiddish form of Hadassa (hadas = myrtle) and another which states
that it could be a variation of the Hebrew name Yehudit.

Personally I'm inclined to accept the first version, but that's my
guts feelings. My mother's Hebrew name was Hodes (pronounce Hodesh)
and since she was born in Hungary, in an orthodox family, I tend to
believe that Hadassa-Esther would probably be more likely a name my
grandfather would have selected. Yehudit-Judith was not such a
"kosher" name, at least then, in Hungary.

The reason for my inquiry was that we are going to give a Hebrew name
to our 3rd granddaughter. So, after this consultation, we decided to
call her Chaya Hadassa.

Once again, thanks to all who responded
the best
Tom
--

Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researcher in Dnepropovosk, Ukraine, formerly Ekaterinoslav #general

Metersky@...
 

I am looking for a researcher in subject city. Has anyone worked with
someone you've liked and trusted? Please respond to <metersky@aol.com>

Mort Metersky
Re: Yizkor Book Project #belarus

Elsebeth Paikin
 

Linda,

I noticed your interest in Pinsk - and that you are new to this.

So I just thought that I'd call your attention to the Belarus SIG
where there is a lot of information -- and more to come -- on Pinsk
(and other places in Belarus, of course).

I think it would be a good place to start searching (there is the
"All Belarus Database" and a lot of other helpful information on
its website:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/

There is also the Belarus SIG Online Newsletter
(where you can find three articles on Pinsk):

http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm

I would also suggest that you subscribe to the Belarus SIG Discussion
Group which you can do easily by following the directions on:

http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm

Be sure to choose "Belarus"
NOTE: There are no dues!

Among our approx. 1300 members there are a lot of knowledgable and
experienced researchers who might be able to -- and are willing --
help.

Best wishes for 2001 and your research

----------------------------------------------------------
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
Editor of Belarus SIG Online Newsletter
http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm
http://home.worldonline.dk/~epaikin/
mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk

Researching:
One name study: PAIKIN (worldwide - all spellings)
Latvia & Lithuania:
STOLBOW/STOLBOFF - HAMEROW/GAMEROw - SOFFER/SOFER
----------------------------------------------------------

At 21:25 02-01-01 -0500, you wrote:
I am a relatively new member of the Yizkor Book Club. I am trying to
research my husband's family who were >from Pinsk. So far, as I navigate your
sites, I see no mention of Pinsk.
...snip...
Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Re: Yizkor Book Project #yizkorbooks

Elsebeth Paikin
 

Linda,

I noticed your interest in Pinsk - and that you are new to this.

So I just thought that I'd call your attention to the Belarus SIG
where there is a lot of information -- and more to come -- on Pinsk
(and other places in Belarus, of course).

I think it would be a good place to start searching (there is the
"All Belarus Database" and a lot of other helpful information on
its website:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/

There is also the Belarus SIG Online Newsletter
(where you can find three articles on Pinsk):

http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm

I would also suggest that you subscribe to the Belarus SIG Discussion
Group which you can do easily by following the directions on:

http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm

Be sure to choose "Belarus"
NOTE: There are no dues!

Among our approx. 1300 members there are a lot of knowledgable and
experienced researchers who might be able to -- and are willing --
help.

Best wishes for 2001 and your research

----------------------------------------------------------
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
Editor of Belarus SIG Online Newsletter
http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm
http://home.worldonline.dk/~epaikin/
mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk

Researching:
One name study: PAIKIN (worldwide - all spellings)
Latvia & Lithuania:
STOLBOW/STOLBOFF - HAMEROW/GAMEROw - SOFFER/SOFER
----------------------------------------------------------

At 21:25 02-01-01 -0500, you wrote:
I am a relatively new member of the Yizkor Book Club. I am trying to
research my husband's family who were >from Pinsk. So far, as I navigate your
sites, I see no mention of Pinsk.
...snip...
Re: Berea Shul #southafrica

gerryspanger <gerry@...>
 

I remember the Berea shul very well, having attended a number of weddings
there and receiving my get there after my divorce.
I have now been away >from Johannesburg for 17 years so my memory is a bit
hazy, however I will try and come up with what I can and email it to you if
you give me your address.
You can reach me at gerry@zarkon.com.
Gerry (gerald) spanger
Edison, NJ
formerly of Johannesburg and Sandton.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bortz Product Design" <bortzid@idx.com.au>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 5:21 AM
Subject: Berea Shul



Hi,

My late great grandfather, Louis Joel Markowitz was one of the founding
members of the Berea Shul in Johannesburg.

Does anyone have any information to share about this Shul? Any photos,
articles, information or anecdotes of it's early days and members?

Thank you,
Lisa Bortz
Sydney, Australia
bortzid@idx.com.au


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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Berea Shul #southafrica

gerryspanger <gerry@...>
 

I remember the Berea shul very well, having attended a number of weddings
there and receiving my get there after my divorce.
I have now been away >from Johannesburg for 17 years so my memory is a bit
hazy, however I will try and come up with what I can and email it to you if
you give me your address.
You can reach me at gerry@zarkon.com.
Gerry (gerald) spanger
Edison, NJ
formerly of Johannesburg and Sandton.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bortz Product Design" <bortzid@idx.com.au>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 5:21 AM
Subject: Berea Shul



Hi,

My late great grandfather, Louis Joel Markowitz was one of the founding
members of the Berea Shul in Johannesburg.

Does anyone have any information to share about this Shul? Any photos,
articles, information or anecdotes of it's early days and members?

Thank you,
Lisa Bortz
Sydney, Australia
bortzid@idx.com.au


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ViewMate 236/7/8/9 - do you know these people? #general

JSwilliams67362@...
 

Subject: ViewMate 236/7/8/9 - do you know these people?

Dear Jewishgenners,

Does anyone recognise the people in these photographs? They are all
second or third cousins of mine, some >from the US, some >from South
Africa. If you know them please get in touch.

Many thanks,

Judith Williams

MODERATOR NOTE: These can be seen at
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/toview.html
Marriage (WOLFSKI) - London - ViewMate #general

Elsebeth Paikin
 

In the National Archives I found a document on
a marriage between:

Henry WOLFSKI and Amalia (MEYER???)
- I am not sure about her last name -
married 17th October 5638/1877
in Borough New Synagogue --

(The header of the printed document has:
United Synagogue, London)

I have made a copy of it and uploaded it on ViewMate
- have a look at VM242.

If you are interested - please contact me privately.



Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
Coordinator & Webmaster of
JewishGen Denmark SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/denmark
mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk

Researching:
One name study:
PAIKIN (worldwide - all spellings)
Latvia & Lithuania:
STOLBOW/STOLBOFF - HAMEROW/GAMEROw - SOFFER/SOFER
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