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The trek from Belarus to Western Ports #belarus

JSimpson@...
 

Hello All,

The story in my family is that my g-g-grandfather, as a teenager,
with his little 8 year old sister left Brest Litovsk in the dead
of winter, someone in Poland sledd-ed them across Poland, and then
they had to get through Germany (eventually arriving in Liverpool,
UK). One story which intrigues me is that he and his sister had to
hide in some woods in Germany >from the "enemy" (the enemy spoke
German so I guess they were German troops) and this was around the
early 1870's. Now, while they were in the woods, the little sister
got sick and died, and Mattas, my g-g-grandfather had to bury her
there in the woods.

Does anyone have any similar stories handed down to them that would
be of interest to me? And, for those with experience in German records
and such I have a question: I assume Mattas buried his little sister
in snow, as the ground would've been rock solid and covered in snow,
so that when the spring thaw came the body of the little girl would've
been exposed. Now, I would think there is a good chance the girl
would've been found. I know in WWII days a dead Jewish girl found in
German woods wouldn't have been news as Jews were being hunted down
in woods all over Europe, but I figure in 1800's it may have been a
news item. So I wonder if there would be a police report on file in
German records >from this time and place in Germany of a dead girl
being found. Does anybody know where in Germany old police records
would be kept, or who I could contact? I know it is a long shot, but
that is what makes it fun.

Joe Simpson
Glens Falls, NY
Searching for Rosenfelds in Brest LItovsk


Re: Zvi Gitelman #belarus

Plutsk@...
 

Author Zvi Gitelman is Director of Academic Programs in the Judaic
Studies Program at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor. He is
also holds the titles of Professor in the Political Science Department
and of Research Scientist, Center for Russian & East European Studies.

Steve Gold
Detroit area


Belarus SIG #Belarus The trek from Belarus to Western Ports #belarus

JSimpson@...
 

Hello All,

The story in my family is that my g-g-grandfather, as a teenager,
with his little 8 year old sister left Brest Litovsk in the dead
of winter, someone in Poland sledd-ed them across Poland, and then
they had to get through Germany (eventually arriving in Liverpool,
UK). One story which intrigues me is that he and his sister had to
hide in some woods in Germany >from the "enemy" (the enemy spoke
German so I guess they were German troops) and this was around the
early 1870's. Now, while they were in the woods, the little sister
got sick and died, and Mattas, my g-g-grandfather had to bury her
there in the woods.

Does anyone have any similar stories handed down to them that would
be of interest to me? And, for those with experience in German records
and such I have a question: I assume Mattas buried his little sister
in snow, as the ground would've been rock solid and covered in snow,
so that when the spring thaw came the body of the little girl would've
been exposed. Now, I would think there is a good chance the girl
would've been found. I know in WWII days a dead Jewish girl found in
German woods wouldn't have been news as Jews were being hunted down
in woods all over Europe, but I figure in 1800's it may have been a
news item. So I wonder if there would be a police report on file in
German records >from this time and place in Germany of a dead girl
being found. Does anybody know where in Germany old police records
would be kept, or who I could contact? I know it is a long shot, but
that is what makes it fun.

Joe Simpson
Glens Falls, NY
Searching for Rosenfelds in Brest LItovsk


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Zvi Gitelman #belarus

Plutsk@...
 

Author Zvi Gitelman is Director of Academic Programs in the Judaic
Studies Program at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor. He is
also holds the titles of Professor in the Political Science Department
and of Research Scientist, Center for Russian & East European Studies.

Steve Gold
Detroit area


NIESZWICZ SYNAGOGUE POSTCARD #belarus

david garth <ynep@...>
 

A NIESZWICZ SYNAGOGUE POSTCARD can be found at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=544345670

David Garth


Belarus SIG #Belarus NIESZWICZ SYNAGOGUE POSTCARD #belarus

david garth <ynep@...>
 

A NIESZWICZ SYNAGOGUE POSTCARD can be found at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=544345670

David Garth


Grosse Jüdische Nationalbiographie #belarus

Andrew N Schwartz <anschwartz@...>
 

If anyone has a copy of the following book:

Wininger, Salomon, Biographer
Bukovina, Israel (1918-1963)
Revised manuscript of "Grosse J=FCdische Nationalbiographie"
LC Control Number: 29002747

Please write to me privately.

... Andrew Schwartz, St. Louis MO USA, researching ADASKIN


Belarus SIG #Belarus Grosse Jüdische Nationalbiographie #belarus

Andrew N Schwartz <anschwartz@...>
 

If anyone has a copy of the following book:

Wininger, Salomon, Biographer
Bukovina, Israel (1918-1963)
Revised manuscript of "Grosse J=FCdische Nationalbiographie"
LC Control Number: 29002747

Please write to me privately.

... Andrew Schwartz, St. Louis MO USA, researching ADASKIN


Lookup for obituary in Orange County, California needed #general

Jeff Sugarman <sugarjf@...>
 

I would very much appreciate a lookup for an obituary in Orange County,
California for 1946.
I'm not sure what newspaper that would be.

Please reply privately,
Thanks,
Jeff Sugarman
Los Altos, CA
sugarjf@att.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lookup for obituary in Orange County, California needed #general

Jeff Sugarman <sugarjf@...>
 

I would very much appreciate a lookup for an obituary in Orange County,
California for 1946.
I'm not sure what newspaper that would be.

Please reply privately,
Thanks,
Jeff Sugarman
Los Altos, CA
sugarjf@att.net


Seeking Genealogical info on :Moritz Moszkowski, composer #general

gilya hodos <ghodos@...>
 

To Whom it May Concern:

I am currently working on a Doctoral Dissertation on
the Polish born, Jewish composer Moritz Moszkowski.

I have already searched on JewishGen JGFF, the Forum
Archives and the Sig Archives, as well as extensive
searches at the NYPL Research Division Library,
various music resources and Google. Unfortunately,
these searches have NOT yielded any relavant
information regarding his family and personal and
religious background.

Moritz Moszkowski was born August 23, 1854 in Breslau,
but his parents names are unknown. His family moved to
Dresden in 1865 when he was 11 years old. Moszkowski
went onto the Berlin to study and later teach. He was
the piano teacher to some of the most famous 19th and
early 20th century pianists - such as Josef Hoffman,
Joaquin Nin, Joaquin Turina and Thomas Beecham. When
he was in his mid 40's he moved to Paris. He was
Knighted to the Legion of Honor in 1910 and was very
highly respected during his lifetime. He died on
March 4th, 1925.
Unfortunately, his music is a little out of favor
nowadays, mostly because his compositional style was
not particularly avant garde for its time. That is a
shame, as Moszkowski's piano repertoire is extremely
beautiful, romantic and technically challenging.

I would be extremely grateful for any information
regarding Moszkowski's family genealogy, or potential
sources that I might search.

Sincerely,
Gilya Hodos


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking Genealogical info on :Moritz Moszkowski, composer #general

gilya hodos <ghodos@...>
 

To Whom it May Concern:

I am currently working on a Doctoral Dissertation on
the Polish born, Jewish composer Moritz Moszkowski.

I have already searched on JewishGen JGFF, the Forum
Archives and the Sig Archives, as well as extensive
searches at the NYPL Research Division Library,
various music resources and Google. Unfortunately,
these searches have NOT yielded any relavant
information regarding his family and personal and
religious background.

Moritz Moszkowski was born August 23, 1854 in Breslau,
but his parents names are unknown. His family moved to
Dresden in 1865 when he was 11 years old. Moszkowski
went onto the Berlin to study and later teach. He was
the piano teacher to some of the most famous 19th and
early 20th century pianists - such as Josef Hoffman,
Joaquin Nin, Joaquin Turina and Thomas Beecham. When
he was in his mid 40's he moved to Paris. He was
Knighted to the Legion of Honor in 1910 and was very
highly respected during his lifetime. He died on
March 4th, 1925.
Unfortunately, his music is a little out of favor
nowadays, mostly because his compositional style was
not particularly avant garde for its time. That is a
shame, as Moszkowski's piano repertoire is extremely
beautiful, romantic and technically challenging.

I would be extremely grateful for any information
regarding Moszkowski's family genealogy, or potential
sources that I might search.

Sincerely,
Gilya Hodos


records of closed burial and landsmanschfften societies #general

Neiel and Joan Baronberg <njbaron@...>
 

Here is a contact that may help people looking for records of closed
burial and landsmanschafften societies. Bruce Reisch and Carol Skydell
suggested this source 3 years ago--you can tell how far behind I am in
my research! I just called the office today, and they were very helpful
and patient, although they didn't find what I needed.
State of New York Insurance Department
Liquidation Bureau
212-341-6400
Good luck,
Joan Baronberg, Denver CO
FRIEDMAN, WEISSER, MASTERMAN, GERSTENBLITH


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen records of closed burial and landsmanschfften societies #general

Neiel and Joan Baronberg <njbaron@...>
 

Here is a contact that may help people looking for records of closed
burial and landsmanschafften societies. Bruce Reisch and Carol Skydell
suggested this source 3 years ago--you can tell how far behind I am in
my research! I just called the office today, and they were very helpful
and patient, although they didn't find what I needed.
State of New York Insurance Department
Liquidation Bureau
212-341-6400
Good luck,
Joan Baronberg, Denver CO
FRIEDMAN, WEISSER, MASTERMAN, GERSTENBLITH


Polish City on Birth Certificate #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

In the process of searching for ENGLANDER relatives in Toronto
(Ontario) and Chicago (Illinois), I have come across a document
that might help me answer an important question for me: "What
was our city of origin in Poland?"

The document is a birth certificate >from 1894, >from Chicago. It
indicates a city of birth (in Poland/Russia) for my mother's
great uncle and great aunt. Unfortunately, I cannot figure out
what city I am reading. Or perhaps I am reading the handwriting
incorrectly? I have put the necessary portion of the document
here (note word circled in red):

http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/0124.eng72.jpg

If you'd like, here is a version with greater details (larger
file size; scroll to the right!):

http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/0124.eng150.jpg

Can anyone figure out what this city is?

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK
Ukraine: OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN, LISS, SOBLE-SOBEL, STEIN, AXMAN
Turkey: KAZEZ-KAZES, FRESKO-FRESCO, ALHADEFF-ELHADEF
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish City on Birth Certificate #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

In the process of searching for ENGLANDER relatives in Toronto
(Ontario) and Chicago (Illinois), I have come across a document
that might help me answer an important question for me: "What
was our city of origin in Poland?"

The document is a birth certificate >from 1894, >from Chicago. It
indicates a city of birth (in Poland/Russia) for my mother's
great uncle and great aunt. Unfortunately, I cannot figure out
what city I am reading. Or perhaps I am reading the handwriting
incorrectly? I have put the necessary portion of the document
here (note word circled in red):

http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/0124.eng72.jpg

If you'd like, here is a version with greater details (larger
file size; scroll to the right!):

http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/0124.eng150.jpg

Can anyone figure out what this city is?

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK
Ukraine: OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN, LISS, SOBLE-SOBEL, STEIN, AXMAN
Turkey: KAZEZ-KAZES, FRESKO-FRESCO, ALHADEFF-ELHADEF
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


Given names: Girsh/Hirsh, Gershon #general

Roy Ogus <ogus@...>
 

I know that the Yiddish given name Hirsh/Girsh is a kinui for the
Hebrew name Tzvi. Does anyone know whether the given name "Gershon" is
derived >from the same name Girsh/Hirsh, or has some other root?

I have seen one reference that indicates that the meaning of Gershon is
"a stranger there", which would mean that it has a completely different
root than Girsh/Hirsh.

I didn't see an answer to this question in the JewishGen Discussion
Archives database.

Thanks for any information.

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California, USA
ogus@impact.xerox.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Given names: Girsh/Hirsh, Gershon #general

Roy Ogus <ogus@...>
 

I know that the Yiddish given name Hirsh/Girsh is a kinui for the
Hebrew name Tzvi. Does anyone know whether the given name "Gershon" is
derived >from the same name Girsh/Hirsh, or has some other root?

I have seen one reference that indicates that the meaning of Gershon is
"a stranger there", which would mean that it has a completely different
root than Girsh/Hirsh.

I didn't see an answer to this question in the JewishGen Discussion
Archives database.

Thanks for any information.

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California, USA
ogus@impact.xerox.com


Genealogy of Public Figures #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

I may be a small minority here, but in private conversations I ahve
determined that I am not alone.

I am sure that when people say "Does anyone have a genealogy of
Houdini (or Senator Lieberman or Rav SR Hirsch or whoever)?" they
generally have a good reason. But occasionally it's just voyeurism.

I for one would find it tasteful if the person inquiring added a line on
why this question is being asked. It might even prompt better
answers.

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Genealogy of Public Figures #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

I may be a small minority here, but in private conversations I ahve
determined that I am not alone.

I am sure that when people say "Does anyone have a genealogy of
Houdini (or Senator Lieberman or Rav SR Hirsch or whoever)?" they
generally have a good reason. But occasionally it's just voyeurism.

I for one would find it tasteful if the person inquiring added a line on
why this question is being asked. It might even prompt better
answers.

Israel Pickholtz