I am in the midst of doing research in Ukraine regarding
these surnames:
OBERMAN / HUBERMAN / GUBERMAN
LISS / LIS / LYS
SOBLE / SOBEL / SOBOL

In Ukraine, my family lived in Kamenets Podolskiy.

A year ago, I wondered: "What records are actually available
at archives for my area of Ukraine."

Now, in the midst of much research for Ukraine, I have a
somewhat incomplete picture of what documents are available.
But the picture I have is far clearer than it was a year
ago! I have made a list of documents I have found that
are of interest to me in these archives:

Kamenets Podolskiy Archives
Rovno Archives
Vinnitsa Archives
Zhitomir Archives

These documents include records for the places listed below.
(I am sorry that this is a mixed list--some towns, and some
larger regions.)

Balsky uyezd
Berezno, Kostopolye uyezd
Derazhnya, Kostopolye uyezd
Izyaslav (Zaslav)
Izyaslav (Zaslav) Uezd
Kamenets
Khmelnitskiy (Proskurov)
Khmelnitskiy (Proskurov) Uezd
Kostopolye
Krasilov
Letichev uyezd
Litin uyezd
Ludvipol, Kostopolye uyezd
Mogilev
Mogilev Podolskiy Uezd
Mogilev Podolsky
Mogilev uyezd
Nikolayev (Mikolajow)
Ostrog povet
Podol Guberniya
Proskurov uyezd
Rovno
Rovno uyezd
Starokonstantinov synagogue
Stepan, Kostopolye uyezd
Vinnitsa
Vinnitsa uyezd
Volyn Guberniya

I don't know if the following information is of any use to
any reader. But, just in case, here is a simple web page
that I have made that lists the documents I have found (via
a researcher) that relate to the places listed above. (It
is a simple and crude document, not a polished report.)

http://www.kazez.com/users/dan/1231-UkrArch.html

And here is a map that lists the towns of greatest interest
to me:

http://kazez.com/users/dan/ukrmap1230.gif

If there are errors in my map above, please let me know.

Dan

P.S. Other information on my surnames may be found here:

http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA

I am in the midst of doing research in Ukraine regarding
these surnames:
OBERMAN / HUBERMAN / GUBERMAN
LISS / LIS / LYS
SOBLE / SOBEL / SOBOL

In Ukraine, my family lived in Kamenets Podolskiy.

A year ago, I wondered: "What records are actually available
at archives for my area of Ukraine."

Now, in the midst of much research for Ukraine, I have a
somewhat incomplete picture of what documents are available.
But the picture I have is far clearer than it was a year
ago! I have made a list of documents I have found that
are of interest to me in these archives:

Kamenets Podolskiy Archives
Rovno Archives
Vinnitsa Archives
Zhitomir Archives

These documents include records for the places listed below.
(I am sorry that this is a mixed list--some towns, and some
larger regions.)

Balsky uyezd
Berezno, Kostopolye uyezd
Derazhnya, Kostopolye uyezd
Izyaslav (Zaslav)
Izyaslav (Zaslav) Uezd
Kamenets
Khmelnitskiy (Proskurov)
Khmelnitskiy (Proskurov) Uezd
Kostopolye
Krasilov
Letichev uyezd
Litin uyezd
Ludvipol, Kostopolye uyezd
Mogilev
Mogilev Podolskiy Uezd
Mogilev Podolsky
Mogilev uyezd
Nikolayev (Mikolajow)
Ostrog povet
Podol Guberniya
Proskurov uyezd
Rovno
Rovno uyezd
Starokonstantinov synagogue
Stepan, Kostopolye uyezd
Vinnitsa
Vinnitsa uyezd
Volyn Guberniya

I don't know if the following information is of any use to
any reader. But, just in case, here is a simple web page
that I have made that lists the documents I have found (via
a researcher) that relate to the places listed above. (It
is a simple and crude document, not a polished report.)

http://www.kazez.com/users/dan/1231-UkrArch.html

And here is a map that lists the towns of greatest interest
to me:

http://kazez.com/users/dan/ukrmap1230.gif

If there are errors in my map above, please let me know.

Dan

P.S. Other information on my surnames may be found here:

http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA

Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 09:40:47 +0200
From: David Zohar <zohar@main.aquanet.co.il>

Searching for the POLINSKY family originating in the shtetl of Kalerka
near Zvenigorodka in the Ukraine.

My late grandparents, MOSHE and Pessie POLINSKY were born there,
emigrated to Argentina at the start of the 20th century under the BARON
HIRSCH SCHEME, but then moved to Britain where I was born. I now live in
Jerusalem.

Any information would be appreciated.

David Zohar

Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 09:40:47 +0200
From: David Zohar <zohar@main.aquanet.co.il>

Searching for the POLINSKY family originating in the shtetl of Kalerka
near Zvenigorodka in the Ukraine.

My late grandparents, MOSHE and Pessie POLINSKY were born there,
emigrated to Argentina at the start of the 20th century under the BARON
HIRSCH SCHEME, but then moved to Britain where I was born. I now live in
Jerusalem.

Any information would be appreciated.

David Zohar

Thanks to all who informed me that geborin means born in German. What I
failed to explain was that it was the only word after the heading for
town. Someone who wrote to me surmised that the Hamburg officer could
not make out the town of birth that my relatives said, and simply wrote
they they were born.

Victoria Reed

Thanks to all who informed me that geborin means born in German. What I
failed to explain was that it was the only word after the heading for
town. Someone who wrote to me surmised that the Hamburg officer could
not make out the town of birth that my relatives said, and simply wrote
they they were born.

Victoria Reed

I was reading copies of GENERATIONS, >from the Jewish Historical Society of
Maryland, which were donated to our IGS Negev library. In one of them,
someone was reminiscing and spoke of the "Riga Kurlander Verein" service
building and a Riga section in the old part of the Jewish cemetery in
Rosedale [east of Baltimore] at the intersection of Philadelphia Road and
Hamilton Avenues in Maryland. I think it might be well worth our while for
some volunteers in the area to go to the cemetery and copy down the
tombstones. If they are not Hebrew literate, photos can be taken and I can
translate the Hebrew. I am sure that there are Kurlander and Riga sections
in other Jewish cemeteries as well. Who would volunteer to help out with
this project? Could we discuss the possibilities of such a project on this
list?

I don't know if this cemetery might be covered by the cemetery project of
Jewishgen. Nonetheless, at least the names of the Riga Kurlanders should be
noted separately, in my opinion. I would appreciate your comments.




Martha Lev-Zion <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il> in Israel
Researching: FELDMANN, [Goldingen, Latvia]
LEVINSON, [Goldingen, Latvia]
LIEBERTHAL, HIM[M]ELHOCH [Latvia, worldwide]
POTZDAMMER, [Latvia, worldwide]
ROTHSCHILD [Bruck and Altenschoenbach, Franconia, Bavaria]
LEVOR/LEFOR [Barchfeld a.m.Werra, Germany; worldwide]
BERNET, HIMMELREICH [Frensdorf, Bamberg, Franconia, Bavaria]
STRAUS[S] [Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany]

I was reading copies of GENERATIONS, >from the Jewish Historical Society of
Maryland, which were donated to our IGS Negev library. In one of them,
someone was reminiscing and spoke of the "Riga Kurlander Verein" service
building and a Riga section in the old part of the Jewish cemetery in
Rosedale [east of Baltimore] at the intersection of Philadelphia Road and
Hamilton Avenues in Maryland. I think it might be well worth our while for
some volunteers in the area to go to the cemetery and copy down the
tombstones. If they are not Hebrew literate, photos can be taken and I can
translate the Hebrew. I am sure that there are Kurlander and Riga sections
in other Jewish cemeteries as well. Who would volunteer to help out with
this project? Could we discuss the possibilities of such a project on this
list?

I don't know if this cemetery might be covered by the cemetery project of
Jewishgen. Nonetheless, at least the names of the Riga Kurlanders should be
noted separately, in my opinion. I would appreciate your comments.




Martha Lev-Zion <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il> in Israel
Researching: FELDMANN, [Goldingen, Latvia]
LEVINSON, [Goldingen, Latvia]
LIEBERTHAL, HIM[M]ELHOCH [Latvia, worldwide]
POTZDAMMER, [Latvia, worldwide]
ROTHSCHILD [Bruck and Altenschoenbach, Franconia, Bavaria]
LEVOR/LEFOR [Barchfeld a.m.Werra, Germany; worldwide]
BERNET, HIMMELREICH [Frensdorf, Bamberg, Franconia, Bavaria]
STRAUS[S] [Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany]

It's not only the dead who have hidden their true ages. When I eventually
tracked down a living cousin, I asked her for her date of birth, explaining
that only genealogists were permitted to ask such a question of a lady. She
said she would admit to the date on her driving licence.

Later I found her birth record, which gave a date six years earlier!!

However, in deference I put her preferred date in the family book, with a
note about the driving licence story.

David Fielker
London UK

It's not only the dead who have hidden their true ages. When I eventually
tracked down a living cousin, I asked her for her date of birth, explaining
that only genealogists were permitted to ask such a question of a lady. She
said she would admit to the date on her driving licence.

Later I found her birth record, which gave a date six years earlier!!

However, in deference I put her preferred date in the family book, with a
note about the driving licence story.

David Fielker
London UK

As the administrator of the VIEWMATE site
(http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/) I want to take this opportunity
to THANK all of the members of the JewishGen community who have come
to the ViewMate site to help their fellow JewishGeners with their
research.

Although the ViewMate site has only been up for 2 months - starting
in November, 2000 - based on feedback I have received >from the
ViewMate posters - they have almost all received some form of help or
assistance with their inquiry.

As someone who has also posted documents to the ViewMate site - I can
speak with first hand experience - about the awesome set of talented
people we have in the JewishGen community and also commend them on
their willingness to take the time to help others.

If you have not been to the site - get it a try.

Thank You Again!

Josef Herz - Renton, WA

Doing research on: HERZ, SIGAL/SEGAL, SCHAMER, LEIBER
in Lvov/Lwow/Lemberg, Kristinopol/Chervonograd, Stoyanov/Stiyanev, Sokal

As the administrator of the VIEWMATE site
(http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/) I want to take this opportunity
to THANK all of the members of the JewishGen community who have come
to the ViewMate site to help their fellow JewishGeners with their
research.

Although the ViewMate site has only been up for 2 months - starting
in November, 2000 - based on feedback I have received >from the
ViewMate posters - they have almost all received some form of help or
assistance with their inquiry.

As someone who has also posted documents to the ViewMate site - I can
speak with first hand experience - about the awesome set of talented
people we have in the JewishGen community and also commend them on
their willingness to take the time to help others.

If you have not been to the site - get it a try.

Thank You Again!

Josef Herz - Renton, WA

Doing research on: HERZ, SIGAL/SEGAL, SCHAMER, LEIBER
in Lvov/Lwow/Lemberg, Kristinopol/Chervonograd, Stoyanov/Stiyanev, Sokal

ViewMate to the rescue again!

I want to take this opportunity to thank all of you have responded
and reviewed and provided translations for the Russian and Polish
Army documents that I placed on ViewMate (VM220, VM221, VM223, VM224).

I have received enough translations and have removed the files >from ViewMate.

Thank you again.

Josef Herz - Renton, WA

Doing research on: HERZ, SIGAL/SEGAL, SCHAMER, LEIBER
in Lvov/Lwow/Lemberg, Kristinopol/Chervonograd, Stoyanov/Stiyanev, Sokal

ViewMate to the rescue again!

I want to take this opportunity to thank all of you have responded
and reviewed and provided translations for the Russian and Polish
Army documents that I placed on ViewMate (VM220, VM221, VM223, VM224).

I have received enough translations and have removed the files >from ViewMate.

Thank you again.

Josef Herz - Renton, WA

Doing research on: HERZ, SIGAL/SEGAL, SCHAMER, LEIBER
in Lvov/Lwow/Lemberg, Kristinopol/Chervonograd, Stoyanov/Stiyanev, Sokal

Stephen and others interested in the Ukraine:

The town of Vinnitsa is in an area West of Kiev Gubernia. I think (but am
not certain) that what's being confused is a Gubernia and an Uezd (a
sub-section of a Gubernia). Vinnitsa appears to be part of the Podolskoye
Gubernie.

. . . . This Gubernia of the Imperial Russian Empire . . . might be in the

Ukraine . . . .

Diane Goldman <dgoldman@erols.com>
Bethesda, MD

Stephen and others interested in the Ukraine:

The town of Vinnitsa is in an area West of Kiev Gubernia. I think (but am
not certain) that what's being confused is a Gubernia and an Uezd (a
sub-section of a Gubernia). Vinnitsa appears to be part of the Podolskoye
Gubernie.

. . . . This Gubernia of the Imperial Russian Empire . . . might be in the

Ukraine . . . .

Diane Goldman <dgoldman@erols.com>
Bethesda, MD

Ian Singer asks:

"They are names of what group of people? What's the purpose of the CD
for those of us who have never heard of it?"

The Family Tree of the Jewish People is online, in Jewishgen, at
http://www.jewishgen.org/gedcom. It is family trees sent in by
genealogists like me. Having a CD might be something to study at your
leisure when not on line; the information is undoubtably the same. You
must be new not to have heard of it, as it was created not so long ago
and contains the information >from the Dorot Center and others.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY

I think the word Victoria is looking at is not "geborin" but "geboren" which
in German, Dutch and Flemish means "to be born".

Joelle Lewkowicz van den Berg

**That is correct as to the meaning of the verb, but note that literally
"geboren" means simply "born" (i.e. it is the past participle of the
German verb "gebaeren" meaning "to bear") Thus, whenever the
abbreviation "geb." appears beside someone's name (e.g. "geb. 1857") it
means exactly the same as "b." (e.g., "b. 1857" )

Judith Romney Wegner