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Re: Passenger arrivals pre-1850
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Gladys Paulin <gp21603@...>
Rachel,
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You probably only need to do four years. There is an index to New York arrivals for the period 1820 to 1846. It is NARA microfilm file M261, contains 103 rolls of microfilm in alphabetical order. The Mormons also have these films. Gladys Gladys Friedman Paulin Winter Park, FL Professional Genealogist
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Early American SIG #USA Re: Passenger arrivals pre-1850
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Gladys Paulin <gp21603@...>
Rachel,
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You probably only need to do four years. There is an index to New York arrivals for the period 1820 to 1846. It is NARA microfilm file M261, contains 103 rolls of microfilm in alphabetical order. The Mormons also have these films. Gladys Gladys Friedman Paulin Winter Park, FL Professional Genealogist
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Re: Holocaust survivor book
#general
Hafcjf@...
Paula Zieselman, >from NY, spoke of a multi-volume set of Holocaust
survivors issued last year by the US Holocaust Museum. Can anyone tell me the actual name of the book so that I can request it through inter-library loan? I have used this book: Benjamin and Vladka Meed Register of Jewish Holocaust Survivors, pub. in 1966 by the US Holocaust Memorial Museum. It lists American and Canadian survivors. Vol. 1 lists the people by name and Vol. 2 lists them by hometown. For those who are interested in this book, due to privacy reasons, you get little more than the names. Sometimes it shows the cities these people traveled to on the road to survival. For instance, it may give a string of place names such as "Brzeziny, Lodz, Auschwitz." They say that they will not release any other information, but I've been told that one can contact the museum and they will forward correspondence. I don't know personally if this is true. As Paula says, if you are researching a specific town (particularly if it's a small shtetl) Vol. 2 can be quite helpful. This 2 volume set proved no problem to obtain via inter-library loan. I'd like to know if the volume Paula speaks of, pub. last year, is a reprint of these earlier volumes or if perhaps it has been expanded to include survivors in the entire world. I'd be grateful for any help. Thanks, Cathy J. Flamholtz Lawrenceville, GA hafcjf@aol.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Holocaust survivor book
#general
Hafcjf@...
Paula Zieselman, >from NY, spoke of a multi-volume set of Holocaust
survivors issued last year by the US Holocaust Museum. Can anyone tell me the actual name of the book so that I can request it through inter-library loan? I have used this book: Benjamin and Vladka Meed Register of Jewish Holocaust Survivors, pub. in 1966 by the US Holocaust Memorial Museum. It lists American and Canadian survivors. Vol. 1 lists the people by name and Vol. 2 lists them by hometown. For those who are interested in this book, due to privacy reasons, you get little more than the names. Sometimes it shows the cities these people traveled to on the road to survival. For instance, it may give a string of place names such as "Brzeziny, Lodz, Auschwitz." They say that they will not release any other information, but I've been told that one can contact the museum and they will forward correspondence. I don't know personally if this is true. As Paula says, if you are researching a specific town (particularly if it's a small shtetl) Vol. 2 can be quite helpful. This 2 volume set proved no problem to obtain via inter-library loan. I'd like to know if the volume Paula speaks of, pub. last year, is a reprint of these earlier volumes or if perhaps it has been expanded to include survivors in the entire world. I'd be grateful for any help. Thanks, Cathy J. Flamholtz Lawrenceville, GA hafcjf@aol.com
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Jews and non-Jews with the same surnames
#belarus
Jrbaston
There can be another possible benefit -- other than potential family
relationship -- to being contacted by someone with the same surname who is not Jewish. If these people have roots >from the same area as our Jewish ancestors, we can learn general information we might not have known about the towns in which our families lived. While my roots on my father's side are in the Vilna / Eishishok / Lida area (he was born in Eishishok), my mother was born in Nur, Lomza Gubernia, northeastern Poland. Alexander Beider has noted that more than half the Jews in the eastern part of Lomza Gubernia had surnames also used by Polish Catholics. I've been contacted by quite a few PIANKAs, JASKOLKAs, and PIASCIKs whose family was Catholic. In exchanging messages, I think we were both able to provide information about ancestral towns and even research resources that the other didn't know. Judy Baston JRBaston@aol.com San Francisco, CA, USA
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Jews and non-Jews with the same surnames
#belarus
Jrbaston
There can be another possible benefit -- other than potential family
relationship -- to being contacted by someone with the same surname who is not Jewish. If these people have roots >from the same area as our Jewish ancestors, we can learn general information we might not have known about the towns in which our families lived. While my roots on my father's side are in the Vilna / Eishishok / Lida area (he was born in Eishishok), my mother was born in Nur, Lomza Gubernia, northeastern Poland. Alexander Beider has noted that more than half the Jews in the eastern part of Lomza Gubernia had surnames also used by Polish Catholics. I've been contacted by quite a few PIANKAs, JASKOLKAs, and PIASCIKs whose family was Catholic. In exchanging messages, I think we were both able to provide information about ancestral towns and even research resources that the other didn't know. Judy Baston JRBaston@aol.com San Francisco, CA, USA
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Jewish Encyclopedia
#belarus
Meshenberg, Michael J. <mjmeshenberg@...>
I'd like to address two comments related to my posting yesterday about the
Jewish Encyclopedia. Udi Cain wrote: That encyclopaedia contains also articles about individuals and I supposeinterested in any subject, out of that encyclopaedia, would be asked to volunteer, totype his choice for all of us. One never knows what and when any article will beWe're working on shtetl articles rather than names or other topics for several reasons: 1. They're of the greatest interest to the greatest number of our members. 2. We have a clear place to post them, in the specific Shtetls of Belarus pages. It's not clear where other articles might be placed. 3. It's better to concentrate our limited resources, including not overburdening or abusing Judy, rather than spreading ourselves too thin. Of course, individuals willing to work on articles of interest to them are always encouraged to do so. Ernie Fine wrote: Why is this being retyped instead of scanned and OCR'd? Is the printquality that bad that it won't OCR properly?Asked and answered by Dave Fox last week. It didn't scan well. Also, the articles are generally fairly short so that retyping is not much of a chore. Mike Meshenberg Research Coordinator, Belarus SIG
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Jewish Encyclopedia
#belarus
Meshenberg, Michael J. <mjmeshenberg@...>
I'd like to address two comments related to my posting yesterday about the
Jewish Encyclopedia. Udi Cain wrote: That encyclopaedia contains also articles about individuals and I supposeinterested in any subject, out of that encyclopaedia, would be asked to volunteer, totype his choice for all of us. One never knows what and when any article will beWe're working on shtetl articles rather than names or other topics for several reasons: 1. They're of the greatest interest to the greatest number of our members. 2. We have a clear place to post them, in the specific Shtetls of Belarus pages. It's not clear where other articles might be placed. 3. It's better to concentrate our limited resources, including not overburdening or abusing Judy, rather than spreading ourselves too thin. Of course, individuals willing to work on articles of interest to them are always encouraged to do so. Ernie Fine wrote: Why is this being retyped instead of scanned and OCR'd? Is the printquality that bad that it won't OCR properly?Asked and answered by Dave Fox last week. It didn't scan well. Also, the articles are generally fairly short so that retyping is not much of a chore. Mike Meshenberg Research Coordinator, Belarus SIG
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Re: Volunteers
#belarus
ComputerCarolyn@...
To those who have volunteered -- or are interested in volunteering -- to
type articles >from the Jewish Encyclopedia for use in the Shtetls of Belarus web pages: Having already offered to copy and mail articles, Judy Floam has now agreed to maintain records of who is doing what to avoid duplication. We're confident that the copyright has long since expired. So, let's follow these steps: 1. Contact Judy at <gfloam@netrax.net> to volunteer to type either specific shtetls or others that might be assigned. Include your postal address. (She's already been in touch with many of you.) 2. Judy will check to see if there is an article for your shtetl. Most smaller ones are not included. 3. She'll copy and mail the article(s) to you and let you know by e-mail which article(s) you should type up. 4. Type the text of the article into an MS Word file, and send it by e-mail to Edward Rosenbaum <erosenbaum@mail.com>, with a copy to Judy so she can cross it off her list. If you don't have access to Word, use any word processing file and save as an MSWord file or, if necessary, as a generic text (ASCII) file. 5. Edward will review the text and upload it to the appropriate shtetl page. Periodic announcements will be made of new articles posted. Happily, there seem to be a number of volunteers who offered to type any shtetl. So even if you can't volunteer yourself, please let Judy know what shtetls you'd like to have typed and she'll assign it to someone. Thanks to Judy and to all who have volunteered. Mike Meshenberg Belarus SIG Research Coordinator
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Volunteers
#belarus
ComputerCarolyn@...
To those who have volunteered -- or are interested in volunteering -- to
type articles >from the Jewish Encyclopedia for use in the Shtetls of Belarus web pages: Having already offered to copy and mail articles, Judy Floam has now agreed to maintain records of who is doing what to avoid duplication. We're confident that the copyright has long since expired. So, let's follow these steps: 1. Contact Judy at <gfloam@netrax.net> to volunteer to type either specific shtetls or others that might be assigned. Include your postal address. (She's already been in touch with many of you.) 2. Judy will check to see if there is an article for your shtetl. Most smaller ones are not included. 3. She'll copy and mail the article(s) to you and let you know by e-mail which article(s) you should type up. 4. Type the text of the article into an MS Word file, and send it by e-mail to Edward Rosenbaum <erosenbaum@mail.com>, with a copy to Judy so she can cross it off her list. If you don't have access to Word, use any word processing file and save as an MSWord file or, if necessary, as a generic text (ASCII) file. 5. Edward will review the text and upload it to the appropriate shtetl page. Periodic announcements will be made of new articles posted. Happily, there seem to be a number of volunteers who offered to type any shtetl. So even if you can't volunteer yourself, please let Judy know what shtetls you'd like to have typed and she'll assign it to someone. Thanks to Judy and to all who have volunteered. Mike Meshenberg Belarus SIG Research Coordinator
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Seeking SHULMAN in Khazangoroduk
#belarus
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <Shmuel@...>
I am seeking information on the SHULMAN family in Khazangoroduk. It
was poland at the time, but I believe that it is now Belarus. I'm specifically looking for Lazr, Labe and Zalman Dove (Berel), and for Zalman Dov's wife Chanah (maiden name unknown). -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2 Team OS/2 Team PL/I -----------------------------------------------------------
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Seeking SHULMAN in Khazangoroduk
#belarus
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <Shmuel@...>
I am seeking information on the SHULMAN family in Khazangoroduk. It
was poland at the time, but I believe that it is now Belarus. I'm specifically looking for Lazr, Labe and Zalman Dove (Berel), and for Zalman Dov's wife Chanah (maiden name unknown). -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2 Team OS/2 Team PL/I -----------------------------------------------------------
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Re: Jewish Encyclopedia - Copyright
#belarus
Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
I looked this title up on the NYPL's website. They have two entries for the
title, with as far as I can tell, the same bibliographic/editorial info except for publishing dates, publisher, LCCNs and Dewey number: The first entry is shown as published by "Funk & Wagnalls, 1901-1906, LCCN 01009359, Dewey 296.03J" No problem apparent there. But the second cites "Ktav Pub.House [1964?], LCCN 64009604, Dewey 910.0317J." And it includes the added description "assisted by American and foreign boards of consulting editors." I have no idea if the copyright applies only to the later edition and not retroactively, but since a later edition exists, I suspect further research is indicated. Michelle Frager "David M. Fox" <fox@erols.com> wrote: I spoke with the Library of Congress copyright office this morning to get clarification about what we are trying to do with "The Jewish Encyclopedia" first published in 1904 and republished through 1912. The LOC said that "anything published prior to 1923 was in the public domain". Therefore, I see no problems with the project to get the Belarus related articles retyped and put on the SIG website. Searching: -> IN BELARUS (Grodno, Bobruisk, Hlusk, Kaslovich): FRAKT, WOLFSON, PADOVSCHIK, SHAPIRO, DINABURSKY -> IN UKRAINE Podolia (Mogilov-Podolski, Snitkov, Zmerinka, Zamekov, Liadova, Vinkivtsi): FRAGER/TRAGER, SEROTA, ZECKSER, SCHWEISBERG, BASSUK, TRACHTENBERG Moderator: with David Fox's definitive comment on the actual books in question this thread is closed.
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Jewish Encyclopedia - Copyright
#belarus
Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
I looked this title up on the NYPL's website. They have two entries for the
title, with as far as I can tell, the same bibliographic/editorial info except for publishing dates, publisher, LCCNs and Dewey number: The first entry is shown as published by "Funk & Wagnalls, 1901-1906, LCCN 01009359, Dewey 296.03J" No problem apparent there. But the second cites "Ktav Pub.House [1964?], LCCN 64009604, Dewey 910.0317J." And it includes the added description "assisted by American and foreign boards of consulting editors." I have no idea if the copyright applies only to the later edition and not retroactively, but since a later edition exists, I suspect further research is indicated. Michelle Frager "David M. Fox" <fox@erols.com> wrote: I spoke with the Library of Congress copyright office this morning to get clarification about what we are trying to do with "The Jewish Encyclopedia" first published in 1904 and republished through 1912. The LOC said that "anything published prior to 1923 was in the public domain". Therefore, I see no problems with the project to get the Belarus related articles retyped and put on the SIG website. Searching: -> IN BELARUS (Grodno, Bobruisk, Hlusk, Kaslovich): FRAKT, WOLFSON, PADOVSCHIK, SHAPIRO, DINABURSKY -> IN UKRAINE Podolia (Mogilov-Podolski, Snitkov, Zmerinka, Zamekov, Liadova, Vinkivtsi): FRAGER/TRAGER, SEROTA, ZECKSER, SCHWEISBERG, BASSUK, TRACHTENBERG Moderator: with David Fox's definitive comment on the actual books in question this thread is closed.
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Re: re Jewish and non-Jewish families
#belarus
Mark L. Spiegel <wysiwig@...>
Hello All:
Just a note on Jewish/Non-Jewish families with the same name: At some point in history, many families were given last names or instructed to choose a last name by the local government. It made it easier to track individuals. Many names were based on the occupation of the head of the household. My name, Spiegel, at one time referred to a worker of glass or lens grinder. My geneological search of census records has turned up many Catholic Spiegels >from Hungary, Galicia, etc. I doubt we are related. Just another possible explaination. Hope this helps. Mark L. Spiegel wysiwig@earthlink.net Researching: PEJLATOWICZ: Derechin, Belarus/Bialystok, Poland TAITZ: Dvinsk, Latvia SPIEGEL: Odessa, Ukraine GOLDBERG: Odessa, Ukraine
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: re Jewish and non-Jewish families
#belarus
Mark L. Spiegel <wysiwig@...>
Hello All:
Just a note on Jewish/Non-Jewish families with the same name: At some point in history, many families were given last names or instructed to choose a last name by the local government. It made it easier to track individuals. Many names were based on the occupation of the head of the household. My name, Spiegel, at one time referred to a worker of glass or lens grinder. My geneological search of census records has turned up many Catholic Spiegels >from Hungary, Galicia, etc. I doubt we are related. Just another possible explaination. Hope this helps. Mark L. Spiegel wysiwig@earthlink.net Researching: PEJLATOWICZ: Derechin, Belarus/Bialystok, Poland TAITZ: Dvinsk, Latvia SPIEGEL: Odessa, Ukraine GOLDBERG: Odessa, Ukraine
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results correction
#dna
Al Bell <allbell@...>
I just found out that I accidentally reported the position of each of my
substitutions to be one place higher than I should have. My actual substitutions are at 16-111, 16-223, 16-225 and 16-362, which might put me in haplogroup H or D. a.l. bell kansas city, missouri
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DNA Research #DNA results correction
#dna
Al Bell <allbell@...>
I just found out that I accidentally reported the position of each of my
substitutions to be one place higher than I should have. My actual substitutions are at 16-111, 16-223, 16-225 and 16-362, which might put me in haplogroup H or D. a.l. bell kansas city, missouri
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Background on Genetics and DNA Mutation
#dna
DonnDevine@...
A useful glossary by Dr. Martin Richards of University College, London,
appears at <http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucbtmbr/glossary.html> He notes that terminology has not stabilized in the field, and his list of terms as used in his lectures includes, for example, "clade" but does not indicate that "haplogroup" is also used in the same sense. Two lectures >from his 1999 course "Human Population Genetics and Evolution," with charts, are linked >from his home page at <http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucbtmbr/> They cover a genealogical approach to population studies, and the construction of gene trees, showing the how various DNA mutations derive >from earlier haplotypes. Donn Devine Wilmington, Delaware, USA donndevine@aol.com "One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important." --Attributed to Bertrand Russell (1872-1970), but not verified.
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DNA Research #DNA Background on Genetics and DNA Mutation
#dna
DonnDevine@...
A useful glossary by Dr. Martin Richards of University College, London,
appears at <http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucbtmbr/glossary.html> He notes that terminology has not stabilized in the field, and his list of terms as used in his lectures includes, for example, "clade" but does not indicate that "haplogroup" is also used in the same sense. Two lectures >from his 1999 course "Human Population Genetics and Evolution," with charts, are linked >from his home page at <http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucbtmbr/> They cover a genealogical approach to population studies, and the construction of gene trees, showing the how various DNA mutations derive >from earlier haplotypes. Donn Devine Wilmington, Delaware, USA donndevine@aol.com "One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important." --Attributed to Bertrand Russell (1872-1970), but not verified.
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