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Re: WARSZAWA districts: thanks to Daniel Wagner !!! #warsaw #poland

Mendelssohn <mendelssohn@...>
 

Dear Daniel,
Thank you for your very interesting paper " Researching Jewish Warsaw" !
It made me know one more map (1840) of the different districts of
Warszawa.It could be usefull for other Jewishgenners to add this map to the
two ones which allready are on the website
http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/warsaw/districts.htm
and which represents the districts of Warszawa in the years 1870 and after
1900.
Kind regards,
Florence Mendelssohn


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland re: WARSZAWA districts: thanks to Daniel Wagner !!! #warsaw #poland

Mendelssohn <mendelssohn@...>
 

Dear Daniel,
Thank you for your very interesting paper " Researching Jewish Warsaw" !
It made me know one more map (1840) of the different districts of
Warszawa.It could be usefull for other Jewishgenners to add this map to the
two ones which allready are on the website
http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/warsaw/districts.htm
and which represents the districts of Warszawa in the years 1870 and after
1900.
Kind regards,
Florence Mendelssohn


Same last name Jewish and non-Jewish families #belarus

Louis Zetler <zetler@...>
 

The fact that there are "non-Jewish" Russians with Jewish surnames should
not come as a surprise.

One must remember that there was a concerted effort for 70 years to
"aethetize" Jews and, for that matter, other religions in the former USSR.
Those who followed the official policy, married out of the faith and
encouraged their children to do so as well. This, of course, is the problem
of our Russian aliyah today.

Our original surname was Namiot. I was once contacted by a Namiot, formerly
from Russia, whose grandparents came >from Vilna. I found a few of his family
members with first names which were unmistakably Jewish. When I asked him if
he was a Cohen, he asked me what a Cohen was!

Louis Zetler
Hoshaya, Israel

Searching: NAMIOT >from Dyatlovo (formerly Zhetel), Belarus; GORONOVSKY from
Slonim, Belarus; CHAIT >from Birzh, Lithuania; ISAACS >from Shukian,
Lithuania; ZETS >from "Nishkaiz", Volhenia; GOLDBERG >from Akmene and Tartu;
SUNTOTSKY; SUGAR >from Poland and Hull, SHUSTER >from Hull.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Same last name Jewish and non-Jewish families #belarus

Louis Zetler <zetler@...>
 

The fact that there are "non-Jewish" Russians with Jewish surnames should
not come as a surprise.

One must remember that there was a concerted effort for 70 years to
"aethetize" Jews and, for that matter, other religions in the former USSR.
Those who followed the official policy, married out of the faith and
encouraged their children to do so as well. This, of course, is the problem
of our Russian aliyah today.

Our original surname was Namiot. I was once contacted by a Namiot, formerly
from Russia, whose grandparents came >from Vilna. I found a few of his family
members with first names which were unmistakably Jewish. When I asked him if
he was a Cohen, he asked me what a Cohen was!

Louis Zetler
Hoshaya, Israel

Searching: NAMIOT >from Dyatlovo (formerly Zhetel), Belarus; GORONOVSKY from
Slonim, Belarus; CHAIT >from Birzh, Lithuania; ISAACS >from Shukian,
Lithuania; ZETS >from "Nishkaiz", Volhenia; GOLDBERG >from Akmene and Tartu;
SUNTOTSKY; SUGAR >from Poland and Hull, SHUSTER >from Hull.


Thanks for NYC marriage info., and bonus Winnipeg Vital Statistics info #belarus

Eve Greenfield <eve_rachel@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners,
First of all, many thanks to all of you who helped me
brainstorm on how to find a record of my
great-grandparents' mariage, which ostensibly took
place in New York. I responded individually to the
first few respondents, and as soon as I emerge from
the special hell which is known as master's thesis
revisions, I will try to respond to the rest of you.

In general, though, I got almost as many inquiries
regarding how I had managed to get the birth
certificate >from Winnipeg. I suspect many other
people may have need for Canadian documents at some
point; I work at an immigration law firm, and my main
client has a large Canadian operation...and we have
discovered that approximately 25% of Canadians have at
least one family tie to the U.S. if you go back 2-3
generations.
I got the info >from the State Department's Foreign
Affairs Manual, which lists addresses to write for
biographic docs all over the world. (We use
it all the time at work, as these kinds of documents
are required for the green card process.)
For Manitoba, the appropriate agency is:
Vital Statistics Agency
254-258 Portage Avenue
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada R3C OB6

Ask them to send you a request form for the
geneaological birth certificate; Canada issues three
types of birth certificates, but the geneaological one
is actual microfilm copy of the form that was filled
out when the birth was recorded. The fee is $25
Canadian (or $18 U.S.), which you will need to send
them probably in the form of a postal money order.

One catch: you will need the written permission of the
individuals in question to have documents released to
you, if they are living, or permission of their next
of kin, if they are deceased. The form isn't terribly
clear about this, but I called them and found out for
sure.

The Vital Statistics Office is very helpful: I got
results in about 3 weeks door to door, and I didn't
even have my grandmother's first name right (which was
a big surprise for my dad and me!).
Good luck, Canadians!
Eve Greenfield, Chicago, Illinois


Pogost during WWII #belarus

Jeffrey Lackner <jmlack@...>
 

I am interested in receiving information regarding the German invasion of
the town/shetl of Pogost (Minsk, Slutsk) in approximately 1941. I had two
at least three ancestors who were killed. Any information regarding Pogost
would be appreciated.

Jeffrey Lackner
Researching KORISCH, EPSTAIN, TERRY (TROSTINESKI, TROSTINETSKY)


Russian Soldiers #belarus

Linda Higgins <maninthemoon2k@...>
 

I have been told that my great-grandfather was a professional soldier in the
czar's army. I have no idea whether this is fact or fiction. Is anyone
aware of how I could possibly determine where these records are kept or how
I can gain access to them?

Linda Gordon Higgins
New Orleans, LA
maninthemoon2k@msn.com

Researching GORDON, KREMER/KRAMER, SAPOZNIK, GINSBERG/GINSBURG,
IOFE/JAFFE/YAFFE (or any variation),GLAZER,GLEZER >from Minsk


Belarus SIG #Belarus Thanks for NYC marriage info., and bonus Winnipeg Vital Statistics info #belarus

Eve Greenfield <eve_rachel@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners,
First of all, many thanks to all of you who helped me
brainstorm on how to find a record of my
great-grandparents' mariage, which ostensibly took
place in New York. I responded individually to the
first few respondents, and as soon as I emerge from
the special hell which is known as master's thesis
revisions, I will try to respond to the rest of you.

In general, though, I got almost as many inquiries
regarding how I had managed to get the birth
certificate >from Winnipeg. I suspect many other
people may have need for Canadian documents at some
point; I work at an immigration law firm, and my main
client has a large Canadian operation...and we have
discovered that approximately 25% of Canadians have at
least one family tie to the U.S. if you go back 2-3
generations.
I got the info >from the State Department's Foreign
Affairs Manual, which lists addresses to write for
biographic docs all over the world. (We use
it all the time at work, as these kinds of documents
are required for the green card process.)
For Manitoba, the appropriate agency is:
Vital Statistics Agency
254-258 Portage Avenue
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada R3C OB6

Ask them to send you a request form for the
geneaological birth certificate; Canada issues three
types of birth certificates, but the geneaological one
is actual microfilm copy of the form that was filled
out when the birth was recorded. The fee is $25
Canadian (or $18 U.S.), which you will need to send
them probably in the form of a postal money order.

One catch: you will need the written permission of the
individuals in question to have documents released to
you, if they are living, or permission of their next
of kin, if they are deceased. The form isn't terribly
clear about this, but I called them and found out for
sure.

The Vital Statistics Office is very helpful: I got
results in about 3 weeks door to door, and I didn't
even have my grandmother's first name right (which was
a big surprise for my dad and me!).
Good luck, Canadians!
Eve Greenfield, Chicago, Illinois


Belarus SIG #Belarus Pogost during WWII #belarus

Jeffrey Lackner <jmlack@...>
 

I am interested in receiving information regarding the German invasion of
the town/shetl of Pogost (Minsk, Slutsk) in approximately 1941. I had two
at least three ancestors who were killed. Any information regarding Pogost
would be appreciated.

Jeffrey Lackner
Researching KORISCH, EPSTAIN, TERRY (TROSTINESKI, TROSTINETSKY)


Belarus SIG #Belarus Russian Soldiers #belarus

Linda Higgins <maninthemoon2k@...>
 

I have been told that my great-grandfather was a professional soldier in the
czar's army. I have no idea whether this is fact or fiction. Is anyone
aware of how I could possibly determine where these records are kept or how
I can gain access to them?

Linda Gordon Higgins
New Orleans, LA
maninthemoon2k@msn.com

Researching GORDON, KREMER/KRAMER, SAPOZNIK, GINSBERG/GINSBURG,
IOFE/JAFFE/YAFFE (or any variation),GLAZER,GLEZER >from Minsk


Surnames - Jewish and Non-Jewish #belarus

buffmufin
 

I guess I'll weigh in on this as well. My maiden name is KUNKIS. Other
than my father and brother, there are no others in my family with this
surname. My grandfather had only sisters, who married out of the name.
After doing an internet phone directory search in the US for similar
spellings (Kunkis, Kunkes, and several soundalikes) I sent out 38 snail mail
letters to people whose names I found, telling them I was searching for my
family tree, names of some ancestors, where they were from, and the fact that
our family is Jewish.

I heard back >from 9 people and found out that there are only 3 family
groups with the name in the US. Two spell it Kunkis (I am trying to figure
out if we are related to the other) and the 3rd spells it Kunkes. Together,
these three families cover 36 of the 38 people I sent letters to. One other
respondent whose spelling was Conkis was of Greek (not Jewish) origin, but
what is interesting, is that all the KUNKIS/KUNKES families are Jewish!!
And all three families are originally >from Belarus, but some are >from
Glubokoye (mine) and the KUNKES family is >from Slutsk (not close).

An email query to a KUNKIS in Germany resulted in someone named KUNKIS
who is not Jewish, and he, in turn, sent me listings for about 30 KUNKIS
listings in the German phone directories, with non-Jewish sounding first
names! I have not contacted them, since I do not speak German. So there
appears to be more non-Jewish people with this name (spelled as I spell mine)
in Germany, while the Jewish people with this name seemed to have emigrated
to the U.S.

Interesting, huh?

Carol Kunkis Cohn
Newport Beach, CA

Searching:
KUNKIS - Glubokoye, Belarus
SCHRIER, PACHTER - Yarmolinitz and Kamenets-Podoslkiy, Ukraine
KOSSOI - Vetka, Chechersk, Zagor'ye, Belarus
PEVTSOV, SKOLNIKOF - Vetka, Belarus


Belarus SIG #Belarus Surnames - Jewish and Non-Jewish #belarus

buffmufin
 

I guess I'll weigh in on this as well. My maiden name is KUNKIS. Other
than my father and brother, there are no others in my family with this
surname. My grandfather had only sisters, who married out of the name.
After doing an internet phone directory search in the US for similar
spellings (Kunkis, Kunkes, and several soundalikes) I sent out 38 snail mail
letters to people whose names I found, telling them I was searching for my
family tree, names of some ancestors, where they were from, and the fact that
our family is Jewish.

I heard back >from 9 people and found out that there are only 3 family
groups with the name in the US. Two spell it Kunkis (I am trying to figure
out if we are related to the other) and the 3rd spells it Kunkes. Together,
these three families cover 36 of the 38 people I sent letters to. One other
respondent whose spelling was Conkis was of Greek (not Jewish) origin, but
what is interesting, is that all the KUNKIS/KUNKES families are Jewish!!
And all three families are originally >from Belarus, but some are >from
Glubokoye (mine) and the KUNKES family is >from Slutsk (not close).

An email query to a KUNKIS in Germany resulted in someone named KUNKIS
who is not Jewish, and he, in turn, sent me listings for about 30 KUNKIS
listings in the German phone directories, with non-Jewish sounding first
names! I have not contacted them, since I do not speak German. So there
appears to be more non-Jewish people with this name (spelled as I spell mine)
in Germany, while the Jewish people with this name seemed to have emigrated
to the U.S.

Interesting, huh?

Carol Kunkis Cohn
Newport Beach, CA

Searching:
KUNKIS - Glubokoye, Belarus
SCHRIER, PACHTER - Yarmolinitz and Kamenets-Podoslkiy, Ukraine
KOSSOI - Vetka, Chechersk, Zagor'ye, Belarus
PEVTSOV, SKOLNIKOF - Vetka, Belarus


a family story #belarus

Lynn Krause <lynnmike@...>
 

My grandfather Leizer GREENSPAN came to the USA in 1907. (Chicago) He
had brothers Morris ,Jacob,2 sisters Dorothy(KAPLAN) Ida(KROLL), 2
missing brothers, Label, Abraham Ari. One might have gone to Argentina. One
might have been in Prague after 1945.My great grandmother(Fagel) was very
active in the Bund. They lived in Mogeliv, Mogeliv(Lupilov).My Grandfather Leizer was active in the Workman Circle in Chicago.Spent the summers in
South Haven.
My Grandmother was Chai Riva DANOFF, >from Mogeliv,Mogeliv. Her father
married a FELDMAN in Mogeliv. Her 1/2 sister Masha Feldman came to Mexico in the 20s,married a doctor,and remained in Mexico.
A family story goes: In about 1869 a royal someone was shot near Mogeliv.
A relative of my Grandmothers helped the person and was allowed to go St. Petersburg where he converted to Catholism.He said he was Christian during
the week and Jewish on the Weekends. The decendents were draft exempt. I
think the name might have been changed >from DOLNICK to DANOFF.
I am researching Greenspan(mogeliv Mogeliv) Danoff( Mogeliv and Lithuania) Dolnick(Mogeliv)
Sincerely Lynn Krause


Belarus SIG #Belarus a family story #belarus

Lynn Krause <lynnmike@...>
 

My grandfather Leizer GREENSPAN came to the USA in 1907. (Chicago) He
had brothers Morris ,Jacob,2 sisters Dorothy(KAPLAN) Ida(KROLL), 2
missing brothers, Label, Abraham Ari. One might have gone to Argentina. One
might have been in Prague after 1945.My great grandmother(Fagel) was very
active in the Bund. They lived in Mogeliv, Mogeliv(Lupilov).My Grandfather Leizer was active in the Workman Circle in Chicago.Spent the summers in
South Haven.
My Grandmother was Chai Riva DANOFF, >from Mogeliv,Mogeliv. Her father
married a FELDMAN in Mogeliv. Her 1/2 sister Masha Feldman came to Mexico in the 20s,married a doctor,and remained in Mexico.
A family story goes: In about 1869 a royal someone was shot near Mogeliv.
A relative of my Grandmothers helped the person and was allowed to go St. Petersburg where he converted to Catholism.He said he was Christian during
the week and Jewish on the Weekends. The decendents were draft exempt. I
think the name might have been changed >from DOLNICK to DANOFF.
I am researching Greenspan(mogeliv Mogeliv) Danoff( Mogeliv and Lithuania) Dolnick(Mogeliv)
Sincerely Lynn Krause


geneologist #belarus

Lynn Krause <lynnmike@...>
 

I am planning on hiring a Geneologist very soon,and am writing to get
some opinions I have been corresponding with Greencastle and he has
been responsive.Help
Thanks in advance
Lynn Krause


Belarus SIG #Belarus geneologist #belarus

Lynn Krause <lynnmike@...>
 

I am planning on hiring a Geneologist very soon,and am writing to get
some opinions I have been corresponding with Greencastle and he has
been responsive.Help
Thanks in advance
Lynn Krause


WALLACK in NY #general

Michel BODKIER <bodkier@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I follow Jewishgen for years and learnt a lot.

I am looking for Mrs and Mr WALLACK (not exact spelling) who arrived in
NY around 1910 . Mania WALLACK was born Mani BODKIER and was tha aunt of
my father .

I have her address in NY , in front of the Empire State Building, and
that'all.

I try to find in NY her death record but did not succeed.

They probably have descendants, but with what spelling and where are
they living?

I would appreciate any help or idea to find some trace.

My congratulations for what you do!

Dr Michel BODKIER -France


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WALLACK in NY #general

Michel BODKIER <bodkier@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I follow Jewishgen for years and learnt a lot.

I am looking for Mrs and Mr WALLACK (not exact spelling) who arrived in
NY around 1910 . Mania WALLACK was born Mani BODKIER and was tha aunt of
my father .

I have her address in NY , in front of the Empire State Building, and
that'all.

I try to find in NY her death record but did not succeed.

They probably have descendants, but with what spelling and where are
they living?

I would appreciate any help or idea to find some trace.

My congratulations for what you do!

Dr Michel BODKIER -France


Re: Meaning of "Rav" on headstone #general

Gene and Ellen Sucov <genellen@...>
 

Rav usually signifies that the person was not only a rabbi but also a
teacher or other honored person. It is to be distinguished >from "Reb" ,
abbreviated in Hebrew as Resh(R) followed by an apostrophe, which is more
like "Mister".

Gene Sucov, Pittsburgh JGS, searching for
SUCHOWCZYCKI, Horodetz-Bialystok-US
SHLAFMITZ, Zaremby-Koscielne-US


Warren Kohn <Wakohn@aol.com> wrote:

My g'grandmother's headstone indicates that her husband was "Rav" Chaim
and he was a Rabbi. It also indicates that her father was "Rav" Eli.
Can I take it that the use of "Rav" indicates that the person is/was a
Rabbi or is it used sometimes as a term of "honor?"


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Meaning of "Rav" on headstone #general

Gene and Ellen Sucov <genellen@...>
 

Rav usually signifies that the person was not only a rabbi but also a
teacher or other honored person. It is to be distinguished >from "Reb" ,
abbreviated in Hebrew as Resh(R) followed by an apostrophe, which is more
like "Mister".

Gene Sucov, Pittsburgh JGS, searching for
SUCHOWCZYCKI, Horodetz-Bialystok-US
SHLAFMITZ, Zaremby-Koscielne-US


Warren Kohn <Wakohn@aol.com> wrote:

My g'grandmother's headstone indicates that her husband was "Rav" Chaim
and he was a Rabbi. It also indicates that her father was "Rav" Eli.
Can I take it that the use of "Rav" indicates that the person is/was a
Rabbi or is it used sometimes as a term of "honor?"