Re: Meaning of "Rav" on headstone
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mpfreed28315861@...
Wakohn@aol.com wrote:
My g'grandmother's headstone indicates that her husband was "Rav"ChaimRav = rabbi. But I suspect that on this headstone both terms could stand for Reb = Mister. Usually if it did mean rabbi the term would be Harav = the Rabbi. Certainly that would be the case in the name of your ggm's father. Murray Freedman
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Meaning of "Rav" on headstone
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mpfreed28315861@...
Wakohn@aol.com wrote:
My g'grandmother's headstone indicates that her husband was "Rav"ChaimRav = rabbi. But I suspect that on this headstone both terms could stand for Reb = Mister. Usually if it did mean rabbi the term would be Harav = the Rabbi. Certainly that would be the case in the name of your ggm's father. Murray Freedman
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Marriage in Eiselstein
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Gill Joye <Gilljoye@...>
I have a copy of a sworn affadavit which states that CHARLES SOLOMON married
Cesira Marinina MIRANDOLI on 16th August 1859 in Eiselstein,near Rotterdam. (Their Hebrew names were Saul and Sarah). They normally lived in London and had married abroad (they already had 3 children) because Cesira converted to the jewish faith at this time. I am keen to track down the actual marriage record and wondered if anyone could help me with a lookup or tell me who to contact. I think that nowadays Eiselstein is the same place as Ijsselstein. Gill Joye Kent
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Marriage in Eiselstein
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Gill Joye <Gilljoye@...>
I have a copy of a sworn affadavit which states that CHARLES SOLOMON married
Cesira Marinina MIRANDOLI on 16th August 1859 in Eiselstein,near Rotterdam. (Their Hebrew names were Saul and Sarah). They normally lived in London and had married abroad (they already had 3 children) because Cesira converted to the jewish faith at this time. I am keen to track down the actual marriage record and wondered if anyone could help me with a lookup or tell me who to contact. I think that nowadays Eiselstein is the same place as Ijsselstein. Gill Joye Kent
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Re: Does anyone want those documents : from Plock, Drobin, Krakow
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Lili Susser <susserl@...>
I would like to add to this posting I failed to mentioned originally.
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I am sorry I did not make it clear that those are copy's of the documents I received >from the LDS. I asked for my branch which does not even resemble the names on those certificates. However since I read Polish I was able to get the information and am offering it to whoever is interested. I can scan it for you or mail it, but for this I'll need an address. Sorry if I misled anyone Lili Lili Susser
I have the following documents that don't belong to me and if you would
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Does anyone want those documents : from Plock, Drobin, Krakow
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Lili Susser <susserl@...>
I would like to add to this posting I failed to mentioned originally.
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I am sorry I did not make it clear that those are copy's of the documents I received >from the LDS. I asked for my branch which does not even resemble the names on those certificates. However since I read Polish I was able to get the information and am offering it to whoever is interested. I can scan it for you or mail it, but for this I'll need an address. Sorry if I misled anyone Lili Lili Susser
I have the following documents that don't belong to me and if you would
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Tree of Yishayahu/Avraham Eber HOLLANDER
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Sam Shoshan <samshoshan@...>
Am trying to find name of father of Yishayahu
HOLLANDER, Who lived in 1800's. He may be a descendant of Avrohom Eber ROZENBERG. Please contact me if you possibly are in this tree, at sshoshan@yahoo.com Thx Shmuel Shoshan
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tree of Yishayahu/Avraham Eber HOLLANDER
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Sam Shoshan <samshoshan@...>
Am trying to find name of father of Yishayahu
HOLLANDER, Who lived in 1800's. He may be a descendant of Avrohom Eber ROZENBERG. Please contact me if you possibly are in this tree, at sshoshan@yahoo.com Thx Shmuel Shoshan
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Transilation Please
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Arthur B. Schwartz, Jr. <abschwartzjr@...>
Dear Genners,
Can someone deciper the meaning of the following: shin, vet, chet This is supposed to be my grandmothers family name in Hebrew (so I have been told - I don't know Hebrew). I would like to know how it translates because I am finding it difficult to trace her family because the spelling was changed at Ellis Island, not once but twice! Two different spellings for different family members - depending on which line they stood in. Thanks, Art Schwartz, Jr. abschwartzjr@qwest.net
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Transilation Please
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Arthur B. Schwartz, Jr. <abschwartzjr@...>
Dear Genners,
Can someone deciper the meaning of the following: shin, vet, chet This is supposed to be my grandmothers family name in Hebrew (so I have been told - I don't know Hebrew). I would like to know how it translates because I am finding it difficult to trace her family because the spelling was changed at Ellis Island, not once but twice! Two different spellings for different family members - depending on which line they stood in. Thanks, Art Schwartz, Jr. abschwartzjr@qwest.net
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Campbell-Craig of London
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Foxinexile <andrew.fielding@...>
I am looking for the CAMPBELL-CRAIGS. Wilfred/Ada/Heather/Betsy
Last I knew they were living in Kingston on Thames, Surrey Andrew Fielding
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Campbell-Craig of London
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Foxinexile <andrew.fielding@...>
I am looking for the CAMPBELL-CRAIGS. Wilfred/Ada/Heather/Betsy
Last I knew they were living in Kingston on Thames, Surrey Andrew Fielding
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Louis Handel & Regina Morris - marriage certificate
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Sally Hohensee <hohensees@...>
I have a marriage certificate for Louis HANDEL and Regina MORRIS, married in
1915 in the Bronx, New York City. Louis was 27 years old, born in New York City, parents Jacob HANDEL and Talima (?) WEISS. Regina was 23 years old, born in Newark, New Jersey, parents Nathan MORRIS and Hilda DOWERICH. If these are your relatives, please contact me at HohenseeS@hotmail.com and I will mail it to you. My grandfather was also Louis HANDEL, but not this one! Sally Hohensee Prairie Village, Kansas, USA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Louis Handel & Regina Morris - marriage certificate
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Sally Hohensee <hohensees@...>
I have a marriage certificate for Louis HANDEL and Regina MORRIS, married in
1915 in the Bronx, New York City. Louis was 27 years old, born in New York City, parents Jacob HANDEL and Talima (?) WEISS. Regina was 23 years old, born in Newark, New Jersey, parents Nathan MORRIS and Hilda DOWERICH. If these are your relatives, please contact me at HohenseeS@hotmail.com and I will mail it to you. My grandfather was also Louis HANDEL, but not this one! Sally Hohensee Prairie Village, Kansas, USA
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Re: Need ideas on naturalizations
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David Cooper <dcooper@...>
Allen,
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Try checking voter registration records. In Cleveland, Ohio (Cuyahoga County) the records give the date, place, and certificate number for naturalization. David Genealogy Utilities & Family Research Researching: ALLEN,BERZONER,COHEN,COOPER,KUPFERZMIDT, POSNER (POIZNER), PRITIKIN, STARKMAN Dachau Camp Entry List, Genealogy Utilities http://pages.prodigy.net/dcooper000/index.htm Allan Jordan says...
I am stumped and I am hoping this great community can give me some new
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Need ideas on naturalizations
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David Cooper <dcooper@...>
Allen,
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Try checking voter registration records. In Cleveland, Ohio (Cuyahoga County) the records give the date, place, and certificate number for naturalization. David Genealogy Utilities & Family Research Researching: ALLEN,BERZONER,COHEN,COOPER,KUPFERZMIDT, POSNER (POIZNER), PRITIKIN, STARKMAN Dachau Camp Entry List, Genealogy Utilities http://pages.prodigy.net/dcooper000/index.htm Allan Jordan says...
I am stumped and I am hoping this great community can give me some new
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Success story - Please Read....
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Marc D. Manson <mdmcousa@...>
JewishGen was the means by which someone in the U.S. was able to connect
with someone in France and as a result, in a very short time, connected with family, ...family they would not have been able to reach in any other way. There was a letter >from another person recently expressing thanks to JewishGen for being the source of information that led to a family connection. The person then said a donation was being made. I thank that person for the donation, but if people only support JewishGen _after_ they receive something >from it, then they just don't get it. Donations come in all forms ....... donating data and information, whether it is just your family names (JGFF), a submission to the Family Tree of the Jewish People (FTJP), transcribing an index >from microfilm, or volunteering time on any of the JewishGen online or offline projects. But _money_ is also needed to pay the everyday expenses of maintaining the vast databases and internet access lines that enable all of us, at the touch of a button, to go on world-wide explorations >from the comfort of our homes. With all that JewishGen offers to the tens of thousands of daily users, why is it that only 2,173 of us have made a financial donation to make this all possible? We all want and need the resources that are made available on JewishGen. We all know its value -- both to us today, and to our ancestors in the future. But it will only be here if we support it. No longer can we say "let the other person do it." Sometimes we only realize and appreciate the value of something after it is gone - whether it is a loved one or something that was lost, stolen or destroyed. Though relatively new, JewishGen has become one of those things that we have decided to take for granted -- that it is there, and that it will always be there. But what if we logged on one day and the screen was blank? What would we do then? Who would we blame then? *** If Not Us, Who? If Not Now, When? *** ........ sound familiar? Let _us now_ make a committment to support JewishGen -- *all of us*. Whether you can make an annual contribution of $25 or $250, make a contribution. We know that we will ultimately receive much more than we give. Marc D. Manson Farmington Hills, Michigan MAN'SKIJ>MANSKY>MANSON (Volkovysk; Slonim, Belarus) WAGNER (Austria; Ft. Wayne, IN; Toledo, OH) MAC>MATZ (Skaryszew;Radom; Poland) POMERANTZ (Brest-Litovsk - Belarus) TURUFF--TUREFF (Russia; New York) BROCK (New York)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Success story - Please Read....
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Marc D. Manson <mdmcousa@...>
JewishGen was the means by which someone in the U.S. was able to connect
with someone in France and as a result, in a very short time, connected with family, ...family they would not have been able to reach in any other way. There was a letter >from another person recently expressing thanks to JewishGen for being the source of information that led to a family connection. The person then said a donation was being made. I thank that person for the donation, but if people only support JewishGen _after_ they receive something >from it, then they just don't get it. Donations come in all forms ....... donating data and information, whether it is just your family names (JGFF), a submission to the Family Tree of the Jewish People (FTJP), transcribing an index >from microfilm, or volunteering time on any of the JewishGen online or offline projects. But _money_ is also needed to pay the everyday expenses of maintaining the vast databases and internet access lines that enable all of us, at the touch of a button, to go on world-wide explorations >from the comfort of our homes. With all that JewishGen offers to the tens of thousands of daily users, why is it that only 2,173 of us have made a financial donation to make this all possible? We all want and need the resources that are made available on JewishGen. We all know its value -- both to us today, and to our ancestors in the future. But it will only be here if we support it. No longer can we say "let the other person do it." Sometimes we only realize and appreciate the value of something after it is gone - whether it is a loved one or something that was lost, stolen or destroyed. Though relatively new, JewishGen has become one of those things that we have decided to take for granted -- that it is there, and that it will always be there. But what if we logged on one day and the screen was blank? What would we do then? Who would we blame then? *** If Not Us, Who? If Not Now, When? *** ........ sound familiar? Let _us now_ make a committment to support JewishGen -- *all of us*. Whether you can make an annual contribution of $25 or $250, make a contribution. We know that we will ultimately receive much more than we give. Marc D. Manson Farmington Hills, Michigan MAN'SKIJ>MANSKY>MANSON (Volkovysk; Slonim, Belarus) WAGNER (Austria; Ft. Wayne, IN; Toledo, OH) MAC>MATZ (Skaryszew;Radom; Poland) POMERANTZ (Brest-Litovsk - Belarus) TURUFF--TUREFF (Russia; New York) BROCK (New York)
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Re: Need help identifying a grandfather
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Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
I would say that your document 2) is probably not your grandfather.
David surname Abraham married Ryfka Marya Flaks. Your grandfather, you say, was David Rubinstein. I would say that Lajb Zalman Flaks was probably related to Zelman Matthew Flaks-they were both named after Zalmen but Lajb's Father was probably Zalman, whereas Zelman's was probably Matthew. Probably, probably, probably-anything is possible. However, have you checked at home? If David came to the US and died here, his tombstone, if it is in Hebrew, or other Jewish sources would identify his father's name. He could be David ben Abraham sometimes known as Rubinstein sometimes known by his patronymic David Abraham. You also have a date problem You say David was born 1885-60. I hope you mean 1855-60 otherwise his wife was 35 years older than he was. The birth certificates don't give the dates or in-law names for David-how sure are you of them. Were there any other brothers and sisters of David's who came to the US-you could get the information >from their death certificates as a check? So I think you are close but keep looking. You have the family but probably not the right person. Remember also that all marriages like all births and all deaths were not recorded. I have birth records for 6 kids of my great great great uncle with 3 different wife's names but no death records and only the third marriage was recorded. Good luck. Sally Bruckheimer Buffalo, NY
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Need help identifying a grandfather
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Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
I would say that your document 2) is probably not your grandfather.
David surname Abraham married Ryfka Marya Flaks. Your grandfather, you say, was David Rubinstein. I would say that Lajb Zalman Flaks was probably related to Zelman Matthew Flaks-they were both named after Zalmen but Lajb's Father was probably Zalman, whereas Zelman's was probably Matthew. Probably, probably, probably-anything is possible. However, have you checked at home? If David came to the US and died here, his tombstone, if it is in Hebrew, or other Jewish sources would identify his father's name. He could be David ben Abraham sometimes known as Rubinstein sometimes known by his patronymic David Abraham. You also have a date problem You say David was born 1885-60. I hope you mean 1855-60 otherwise his wife was 35 years older than he was. The birth certificates don't give the dates or in-law names for David-how sure are you of them. Were there any other brothers and sisters of David's who came to the US-you could get the information >from their death certificates as a check? So I think you are close but keep looking. You have the family but probably not the right person. Remember also that all marriages like all births and all deaths were not recorded. I have birth records for 6 kids of my great great great uncle with 3 different wife's names but no death records and only the third marriage was recorded. Good luck. Sally Bruckheimer Buffalo, NY
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