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Re: Definition of family name #names #poland

David Brostoff
 

On Jul 29, 2020, at 2:13 PM, alejandro@... wrote:

The exact meaning of this surname is en epenthesis of the surname Korb which is a german word for basket.
Now, "belnik" is a yiddish suffix for a person´s occupation. Therefore, the epenthesis occurs when you add or substract a letter from a surname. In this case an "a" was added and that is how Korabelnik means "a basket maker or seller".
That may be, although Alexander Beider, in Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from the Russian Empire (rev. ed.), says it means "hawker" or "peddler."

David


Re: Name Tocherre #names #yiddish

Sherri Bobish
 


Minnie,

There are databases on-line of incoming passenger manifests for many U.S. ports.

A manifest from 1882 will likely have no other info than a person's name and name of country of origin.  Although, it did vary by shipping line.

Later manifests contain much broader info, as manifest data was mandated by the U.S.

Here are some sites to try searching:

https://stevemorse.org/
A great site with many helpful databases.

www.familysearch.org
A site with a large number of genealogical databases, including passenger manifests.

Regards,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ


Re: Maiden name of Great Grandmother #ukraine

Raylene Gurewich
 


-- Yes, mother's maiden name left blank on my great uncles death certificates. :(



Raylene Gurewich 
Port Jefferson Station, NY


Re: Is it possible to see NY Death Certificates (not indexes) and Naturalization Records (not indexes) online during Covid? #records

Moishe Miller
 

Susan,
 
I hope you are doing well.
 
I can answer #2. You can see many of the naturalization images online.
You might want to review this page:
 
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
JGFF# 3391


Re: NYC Municipal Death Records Archive #usa

Debra Braverman
 

Marriage licenses 1950 on are held by the City Clerk and are public after 50 years.
 
Debra Braverman
 


Re: Find Address - 30 Osborn, Brooklyn NY #usa

Jx. Gx.
 

Jessica Skippon is 100 percent correct.  In the 1950s NYC began putting up a lot of public housing complexes and in the process truncated or eliminated entire blocks of streets.  If you Google "30 Osborn Street, Brooklyn" you will see in a map the approximate location of that former address indicated by a red dot. It is just below Howard Housing, mentioned by Jessica.

Jeffrey Gee
Arizona 


Re: Is it possible to see NY Death Certificates (not indexes) and Naturalization Records (not indexes) online during Covid? #records

RichardWerbin
 

I think they are available if you  physically go to an LDS Family History Center.

stevemorse.org had links that are supposed to work in a family history center.


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

RichardWerbin
 

MyHeritage definitely has some information that is not at Ancestry or FamilySearch.
One that I know is that the Ellis Island arrival manifests include in their index the name of the person that the passenger is going to.
At Ancestry & FamilySearch, that information is only available when you open the image and review it. Not searchable. 


Re: Definition of family name #names #poland

alejandro@...
 

The exact meaning of this surname is en epenthesis of the surname Korb which is a german word for basket.
Now, "belnik" is a yiddish suffix for a person´s occupation. Therefore, the epenthesis occurs when you add or substract a letter from a surname. In this case an "a" was added and that is  how Korabelnik means "a basket maker or seller".
Best
Alex


Re: Equivalent Name for Rose #names

bobmalakoff@...
 

Rifkeh (רבקה) is actually Rebecca in  Hebrew and probably Yiddish. The parents probably preferred Rose.


Re: Name Tocherre #names #yiddish

mmsandfriends@...
 

hello, is there a way to find a list of ship names/manifests for arrivals of Yiddish speakers from Russia? My husband's great-grandfather, Israel Divac arrived in 1882 and the 1920 census for Philadelphia listed his spoken language as Yiddish and his origins from Russia. Minnie Schreck


On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 2:58 PM Marsha Paiste <marsha.paiste@...> wrote:

Hello all--

When my great grandmother from Kornitsa brought her children to America in 1895 they came on a ship from Hamburg.  The passenger list employs Yiddish names with unusual, perhaps German, spellings.  For instance Tsiedel became Zeitel. Similar forms of the names also appear on the list of arrivals in NY.

One of the names is hard to read but looks like Therue or Tocherre  which I believe is my great aunt Jennie.  Is Tocherre  a name?  Is it possible that my ggmother said "daughter" or "tochter" and the name on the list  arises from that?  Are there names for Jennie that seem like either of these?

Marsha Starr Paiste
New Hampshire


Re: Equivalent Name for Rose #names

bobmalakoff@...
 

Risha in Russian


Is it possible to see NY Death Certificates (not indexes) and Naturalization Records (not indexes) online during Covid? #records

Susan Goldsmith
 

I should know the answer to these two questions, but am floundering. 
 
1. Is there any way to see death certificates, not indexes, after 1948-49 for NYC and Brooklyn online.  I seek one for 1969 in Far Rockaway and one for 1981 in Brooklyn.
 
2. Is there any way to see naturalization records, not indexes,  in US District Court for the SD NY (NYC), US District Court for the ED NY (Brooklyn) , NYC Superior Court  and Kings County Court online?
 
Thank you,
Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area, CA
 



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Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area, CA, USA
jcwsmg@...
Researching GOLDSHMIDT, F(P)ILVINSKY, SHLIOMOVICH, GITTES (GADIE,GADYE, GIDUSH, GITES) Seta, Jonava, Kaunas, Adustiskes, Zemaiciu Naumiestes, Keidainiai, Ukmerge, Vandziogala, Lithuania
HOROWITZ, DRASNIN (DRASNE) Dauhinava, Belarus; TOBIAS (TOUBES, TOBES, TAUBES) Novyy Swerzhen and Stowbtsy, Belarus; ROZANSKY, BILINSKY, MIRANSKY Iasevichi, Belarus
DAVIS, HAFFNER Botosani, Romania
WAXMAN (WAKSMAN), KOENIGSBERG Sandomierz, Ostrowiec Poland


Looking for the birth certificate of MODLINGER from Przemsyl, Poland #poland

Jacques Klein
 

Can somebody help me to find the birth certificate of MODLINGER ( may be another name) Israel Jacob, born on  5th December 1906 at Przemsyl (Poland) from Shraga and Miriam ? And if possible, a translation.

As I do not understand polish, it is very difficult to search in polish archives.
Thanks
J.KLEIN
Paris, France


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

bobmalakoff@...
 

The name change idea was perpetuated in the Godfather movie.  Vito says to the immigration agent "I am Vito Andolini from Corleone" and the agent writes down Vito Corleone.  Many families changed their name on the own.  My maternal great grandfather came over as Morris Shimishelovitz.  Within his lifetime the name became Similovitz and then they said the heck with it, it's Simmons.
Bob Malakoff


Feierstein and Finkelstein from Mihaileni #romania

Margaret Kugel
 

My grandmother came from Mihaileni in Romania. According to Wikipedia there are several different towns called Mihaileni I would like to know how to find out which town is the right one.

 

Her family name was Feierstein or Fierstein or Feirstein. Her mother’s maiden name was Finkelstein. I would like to connect with anyone who has information on those families.

 

Margaret Kugel


Name Tocherre #names #yiddish

Marsha Paiste
 


Hello all--

When my great grandmother from Kornitsa brought her children to America in 1895 they came on a ship from Hamburg.  The passenger list employs Yiddish names with unusual, perhaps German, spellings.  For instance Tsiedel became Zeitel. Similar forms of the names also appear on the list of arrivals in NY.

One of the names is hard to read but looks like Therue or Tocherre  which I believe is my great aunt Jennie.  Is Tocherre  a name?  Is it possible that my ggmother said "daughter" or "tochter" and the name on the list  arises from that?  Are there names for Jennie that seem like either of these?

Marsha Starr Paiste
New Hampshire


Re: What's a Cutter? #usa #general

Lee Jaffe
 

I tried to answer this question about possible fatal accidents your "cutter" ancestor might have suffered earlier but the moderator misunderstood my reference to the Triangle Shirtwaist fire and rejected my message.  But no one else has mentioned more common kinds of industrial accidents and I thought I'd try again.  

My  family had a clothing manufacturing business in Philadelphia for 70-80 years.  They had their own cutting shop where material was cut in bulk and sent out for sewing to a jobber.  They used electric saws to cut many layers of cloth at one time.  There were the occasional accidents with the saws but I never heard of a fatality.

More concerning were fires.  There was always a lot of dust in the air from cut fabric.  Scraps of fabric were everywhere, often in bins under the cutting tables.  Rolls of cloth -- weighing 100s of pounds -- were stacked on racks (maybe another accident waiting to happen).  And finished clothes hanging from racks.  All told, a lot of fuel for a fire, which could be started by any number of common sources.  The Triangle fire is the most famous but we still see reports of fatal sweatshop fires. 

If not fire, cutting shops were still industrial sites with plenty of opportunities for injury and death.

Lee Jaffe


Re: NYC Municipal Death Records Archive #usa

Barbara Ellman
 

All records not identified on the Municipal Archives site are still held by the Health Department:
 
Births after 1909
Marriages certificates after 1937
Marriage Licenses after 1949
Deaths after 1948
 
Many of the indexes have been made available thanks to Reclaim the Records.  But actual documents are only available through the restrictive Health Department.

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Barbara Ellman

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Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA
HASSMAN, SONENTHAL, DAUERMAN, LUCHS - Drohobycz, Ukraine
HIRSCHHORN, GOLDSTEIN, BUCHWALD - Dolyna, Ukraine
ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN - Minkovtsy, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS - Ulanow, Poland


Re: Maiden name of Great Grandmother #ukraine

dasw5@...
 

Did you try looking for death certificates?