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PROVINCE OF TARNAPOL #galicia

Carol Cohen <cgandhc@...>
 

My grandmother was Rosa (Ruchel) Sass Waldman. She was >from a small
community called "Venterifke" (?) <<BONDEROVKA???? Wikterovka???>> in the
vicinity of Kozova near Tarnopol, now in Russia. She said that her native
country was Austria - Hungary, and her citizenship papers say Poland. She
married Abraham Waldman in 1900 and immediately afterward they immigrated
to New York, and later in about 1910 moved to Dallas, Texas. Her father
was Velvel, and her mother was Sara Perlmutter or Weisbach (depending on
whose records we choose to believe --- maybe he was married twice!). She
had 2 brothers, David Meyer and Israel, and 5 sisters: Feiga m. Mausberg,
Brani m. Schmerle, Charna Yente m. Teitelbaum, Laura m. Jackier, and Esther
Rifki m. Schleicher. Israel died young, David and Laura also moved to New
York. Some of Feiga's children moved to Canada, and Charna Yente and
Esther Rifki's children moved to the U.S. and settled in Chicago, El Paso
and Philadelphia. We think that Feiga and Brani perished in the Holocaust,
but we have been unable to find any records. Velvel Sass's father was
Nucham Sass and his mother was Charna bas Leibish. After his first wife
died (not long before Ruchel married), Velvel remarried Feige Gertel
Weisbach or maybe Weinstock and immigrated to Israel where he died in early
1910. We think he lived in Jerusalem. We have seen the Tarnopol records
recently included in jewish.gen, but the only offspring shown are David's
older children. While there are many Sasses, and they all have common
names, we can't seem to find any others directly matching the above info.

Can anyone help???? Carol Cohen

Carol Cohen
cococo@ont.com
Dallas, TX USA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia PROVINCE OF TARNAPOL #galicia

Carol Cohen <cgandhc@...>
 

My grandmother was Rosa (Ruchel) Sass Waldman. She was >from a small
community called "Venterifke" (?) <<BONDEROVKA???? Wikterovka???>> in the
vicinity of Kozova near Tarnopol, now in Russia. She said that her native
country was Austria - Hungary, and her citizenship papers say Poland. She
married Abraham Waldman in 1900 and immediately afterward they immigrated
to New York, and later in about 1910 moved to Dallas, Texas. Her father
was Velvel, and her mother was Sara Perlmutter or Weisbach (depending on
whose records we choose to believe --- maybe he was married twice!). She
had 2 brothers, David Meyer and Israel, and 5 sisters: Feiga m. Mausberg,
Brani m. Schmerle, Charna Yente m. Teitelbaum, Laura m. Jackier, and Esther
Rifki m. Schleicher. Israel died young, David and Laura also moved to New
York. Some of Feiga's children moved to Canada, and Charna Yente and
Esther Rifki's children moved to the U.S. and settled in Chicago, El Paso
and Philadelphia. We think that Feiga and Brani perished in the Holocaust,
but we have been unable to find any records. Velvel Sass's father was
Nucham Sass and his mother was Charna bas Leibish. After his first wife
died (not long before Ruchel married), Velvel remarried Feige Gertel
Weisbach or maybe Weinstock and immigrated to Israel where he died in early
1910. We think he lived in Jerusalem. We have seen the Tarnopol records
recently included in jewish.gen, but the only offspring shown are David's
older children. While there are many Sasses, and they all have common
names, we can't seem to find any others directly matching the above info.

Can anyone help???? Carol Cohen

Carol Cohen
cococo@ont.com
Dallas, TX USA


Abbreviation 2ch or Zch in Polish records #poland

HNRosen@...
 

I've seen the abbreviation 2ch or Zch ("ch" as superscript) in many Polish
documents indexed on JRI-Poland. Can someone clarify and explain the meaning
to me?

Please reply privately.

Howard Rosen
Los Angeles


JRI Poland #Poland Abbreviation 2ch or Zch in Polish records #poland

HNRosen@...
 

I've seen the abbreviation 2ch or Zch ("ch" as superscript) in many Polish
documents indexed on JRI-Poland. Can someone clarify and explain the meaning
to me?

Please reply privately.

Howard Rosen
Los Angeles


Re: jri-pl digest: January 08, 2001 #poland

Daniel Wagner <Cpwagner@...>
 

Jackye, once you get the surname of the bride, born in Zdunska Wola, you =
can use the JRI and PSA data for Zdunska Wola, --which is all on-line-- to =
find a birth cert and build her a family tree. Good luck,
Daniel Wagner
Zdunska Wola shtetl leader
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Just wanted to share with the group that I received an 1896 marriage
certificate >from the Lodz archives ordered through JRI. It took a while =
but
it did arrive. A friend helped translate what she could and I just posted =
a
copy of it on Viewmate in case someone can translate it in full. It's VM
247 and it's in Cyrillic. The groom was >from Warta and the bride from
Zdunska Wola. Would appreciate any help I can get.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


H Daniel Wagner=20
The Livio Norzi Professorial Chair

Weizmann Institute of Science
Tel: +(972) 8 934 2594
Fax: +(972) 8 934 4137
E-mail: daniel.wagner@weizmann.ac.il
Homepage: http://www.weizmann.ac.il/wagner/home.htm


JRI Poland #Poland Re: jri-pl digest: January 08, 2001 #poland

Daniel Wagner <Cpwagner@...>
 

Jackye, once you get the surname of the bride, born in Zdunska Wola, you =
can use the JRI and PSA data for Zdunska Wola, --which is all on-line-- to =
find a birth cert and build her a family tree. Good luck,
Daniel Wagner
Zdunska Wola shtetl leader
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Just wanted to share with the group that I received an 1896 marriage
certificate >from the Lodz archives ordered through JRI. It took a while =
but
it did arrive. A friend helped translate what she could and I just posted =
a
copy of it on Viewmate in case someone can translate it in full. It's VM
247 and it's in Cyrillic. The groom was >from Warta and the bride from
Zdunska Wola. Would appreciate any help I can get.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


H Daniel Wagner=20
The Livio Norzi Professorial Chair

Weizmann Institute of Science
Tel: +(972) 8 934 2594
Fax: +(972) 8 934 4137
E-mail: daniel.wagner@weizmann.ac.il
Homepage: http://www.weizmann.ac.il/wagner/home.htm


Jekabpils page addtion #latvia

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

My Jekabpils shtetlinks page has a very nice list of the 1837 merchant's
families of Jacobstadt. I have just added it to the page..There are not
many families but enough for you to find interesting if you have family who
came >from there.
http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/jekabpils/jekabpils.htm

Hope you are lucky and find some of your family in the list.
Arlene Beare
President Latvia SIG


Latvia SIG #Latvia Jekabpils page addtion #latvia

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

My Jekabpils shtetlinks page has a very nice list of the 1837 merchant's
families of Jacobstadt. I have just added it to the page..There are not
many families but enough for you to find interesting if you have family who
came >from there.
http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/jekabpils/jekabpils.htm

Hope you are lucky and find some of your family in the list.
Arlene Beare
President Latvia SIG


Italy in Austro-Hungarian empire #general

Denise Azbill <famaz@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I have a relative who lived in Orsano, which used to be part of the
Austro-Hungarian empire and is now in northern Italy. What I would really
like to find is a map of the entire empire, not broken up into countries.
I've looked through a lot of search engines and can't find one. Have any of
you found one on-line?

Thanks for your help!
Sincerely,
Denise Azbill
Las Vegas, NV


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Italy in Austro-Hungarian empire #general

Denise Azbill <famaz@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I have a relative who lived in Orsano, which used to be part of the
Austro-Hungarian empire and is now in northern Italy. What I would really
like to find is a map of the entire empire, not broken up into countries.
I've looked through a lot of search engines and can't find one. Have any of
you found one on-line?

Thanks for your help!
Sincerely,
Denise Azbill
Las Vegas, NV


KUBRI(C)K #general

Geoffrey Cocks <Gcocks@...>
 

I am presently researching a book on film director Stanley KUBRICK
(1928-1999) and would like to learn of anyone in Galicia before and after
1945 by the name of KUBRIK, KUBRYK, CHUBRIK, or KYBRIK.

Stanley's great-grandfather Hersh KUBRIK emigrated >from PROBUZNA in the
Czortkow region southeast of BUCZACZ to New York City in 1900. Hersh (b.
1852) was likely the son of Mendel and Chancie Ester KUBRIK and resided in
House #128 in Probuzna (also spelled PROBUZNAYA; now PROBEZHNA in
Ukraine). His sister Liba married Salman FLIK and in 1897 bore a son
named Isak. Hersh's other sister Beile married Jankel NADLER and had
three children: Chancie Ester (b. 1897), Mindel (b. 1899), and Chawe
Chaje (b. 1902). Both Liba and Beile lived at House #278 in Probuzna.
Hersh married Lea FUCHS, daughter of Hersh and Golde Fuchs; children of
theirs born in Probuzna were: Elias (b. 1877), Bela (b. 1879), Annie (b.
1897), and Mendel (b. 1898); two other sons, Joseph and Michael, were born
in New York City in 1900 and 1904, respectively. Elias's son Jacob
(1902-1985) was Stanley Kubrick's father.

I would be most grateful for any information regarding the Kubri(c)k
family.

Geoffrey Cocks
Department of History
Albion College
Albion, Michigan

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KUBRI(C)K #general

Geoffrey Cocks <Gcocks@...>
 

I am presently researching a book on film director Stanley KUBRICK
(1928-1999) and would like to learn of anyone in Galicia before and after
1945 by the name of KUBRIK, KUBRYK, CHUBRIK, or KYBRIK.

Stanley's great-grandfather Hersh KUBRIK emigrated >from PROBUZNA in the
Czortkow region southeast of BUCZACZ to New York City in 1900. Hersh (b.
1852) was likely the son of Mendel and Chancie Ester KUBRIK and resided in
House #128 in Probuzna (also spelled PROBUZNAYA; now PROBEZHNA in
Ukraine). His sister Liba married Salman FLIK and in 1897 bore a son
named Isak. Hersh's other sister Beile married Jankel NADLER and had
three children: Chancie Ester (b. 1897), Mindel (b. 1899), and Chawe
Chaje (b. 1902). Both Liba and Beile lived at House #278 in Probuzna.
Hersh married Lea FUCHS, daughter of Hersh and Golde Fuchs; children of
theirs born in Probuzna were: Elias (b. 1877), Bela (b. 1879), Annie (b.
1897), and Mendel (b. 1898); two other sons, Joseph and Michael, were born
in New York City in 1900 and 1904, respectively. Elias's son Jacob
(1902-1985) was Stanley Kubrick's father.

I would be most grateful for any information regarding the Kubri(c)k
family.

Geoffrey Cocks
Department of History
Albion College
Albion, Michigan

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.


ViewMate - Files - VM270/271 #general

Mona Panitz <mgpanitz@...>
 

Dear Friends, I have posted two documents i recently received >from Galina
on Jewishgen's ViewMate, I would be so appreciatve if someone >from our
group could provide the translations.

They are both straightforward birth and marriage documents. Many thanks!
Mona Panitz, Long Beach, Ca

MODERATOR NOTE: VM270/271 can be viewed at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/> in the "To View" section.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate - Files - VM270/271 #general

Mona Panitz <mgpanitz@...>
 

Dear Friends, I have posted two documents i recently received >from Galina
on Jewishgen's ViewMate, I would be so appreciatve if someone >from our
group could provide the translations.

They are both straightforward birth and marriage documents. Many thanks!
Mona Panitz, Long Beach, Ca

MODERATOR NOTE: VM270/271 can be viewed at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/> in the "To View" section.


"Riga Kurlander Verein" and the unbalanced work load #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

It is hard for me to believe that only four of you are willing to do the
grunt work on locating and copying Kurlander burial sites in the world.
That is not enough to get the project off the ground. Are the rest of you
waiting for someone else to do the work and post it so that you can reap
the benefits? Everyone wants to find his family's information up on the
internet, but how do you think those details get there? Some of us have
sacrificed countless hours and enormous amounts of money to make our
Courland/Latvia website excellent and informative. Do the rest of you
think that happens by magic? And if the few of us who are doing all the
work burn out, where will that leave the rest of you? Will you grumble
then about having so little on the website? Or about the website not having
been updated in so long? It galls me to see how willing most of you are to
sit back and let someone else do the work or donate their hard earned
dollars/pounds/shekels to our projects when you do nothing to enjoin us and
use the information for your own genealogy without somehow pitching in. All
the energy that we dedicate to the general good of Courlanders and Latvians
we have to steal >from our own personal genealogy research and our families.
Wouldn't you think that more of you would be grateful and dedicate a little
of your energies and money to help us? I would like to know why you aren't
knocking down our doors in an effort to share the burden...

Your comments, donations and offers of help are always welcome!

Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, in Omer, Israel


Latvia SIG #Latvia "Riga Kurlander Verein" and the unbalanced work load #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

It is hard for me to believe that only four of you are willing to do the
grunt work on locating and copying Kurlander burial sites in the world.
That is not enough to get the project off the ground. Are the rest of you
waiting for someone else to do the work and post it so that you can reap
the benefits? Everyone wants to find his family's information up on the
internet, but how do you think those details get there? Some of us have
sacrificed countless hours and enormous amounts of money to make our
Courland/Latvia website excellent and informative. Do the rest of you
think that happens by magic? And if the few of us who are doing all the
work burn out, where will that leave the rest of you? Will you grumble
then about having so little on the website? Or about the website not having
been updated in so long? It galls me to see how willing most of you are to
sit back and let someone else do the work or donate their hard earned
dollars/pounds/shekels to our projects when you do nothing to enjoin us and
use the information for your own genealogy without somehow pitching in. All
the energy that we dedicate to the general good of Courlanders and Latvians
we have to steal >from our own personal genealogy research and our families.
Wouldn't you think that more of you would be grateful and dedicate a little
of your energies and money to help us? I would like to know why you aren't
knocking down our doors in an effort to share the burden...

Your comments, donations and offers of help are always welcome!

Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, in Omer, Israel


Grossberg and Freiberg families? #latvia

Eric Swank <m0415197@...>
 

I am secular Sociologist who is trying to explore a possible Jewish lineage--
the lineage that was probably erased right before World War II.

My mother's maiden name was Ursula Isakowsky. She was a "displaced person" who
was born in Posen Poland in 1940. Her father was Kurt Isakowsky (Kurts
Fredricks Isakovskis). Her mother was Hildegard Aab. Both of my Grandparents
were >from Riga.

The family were Lutherans by the time my mother was born. We believe that some
of our family had a religious conversion in order to escape political
repression. We have great grandparents named Sigrid Grossberg and Walter Johann
Freiberg.

Does anybody recognize these names? If not, I would appreciate some
suggestions on comprehensive archieves. Also, can people recommend a good
historical/ethnographic book on Jewish culture in the Baltic area?

Thanks,

Eric Swank
Dept. of Sociology and Social Work
Morehead State University
Morehead, KY 40351
(606) 783-2190


Latvia SIG #Latvia Grossberg and Freiberg families? #latvia

Eric Swank <m0415197@...>
 

I am secular Sociologist who is trying to explore a possible Jewish lineage--
the lineage that was probably erased right before World War II.

My mother's maiden name was Ursula Isakowsky. She was a "displaced person" who
was born in Posen Poland in 1940. Her father was Kurt Isakowsky (Kurts
Fredricks Isakovskis). Her mother was Hildegard Aab. Both of my Grandparents
were >from Riga.

The family were Lutherans by the time my mother was born. We believe that some
of our family had a religious conversion in order to escape political
repression. We have great grandparents named Sigrid Grossberg and Walter Johann
Freiberg.

Does anybody recognize these names? If not, I would appreciate some
suggestions on comprehensive archieves. Also, can people recommend a good
historical/ethnographic book on Jewish culture in the Baltic area?

Thanks,

Eric Swank
Dept. of Sociology and Social Work
Morehead State University
Morehead, KY 40351
(606) 783-2190


Re: Polish Legion Of French Army & POW. #general

Willie Glaser <velvel@...>
 

The name "Polish Legion of the French army" is a misnomer. There was an
independent Polish unit fighting with and under overall command of the
French army. This unit was the 10th Polish Cavalry Brigade, commanded by
General Maczek. The officers and soldiers of this brigade made their
escape as civilians via Rumania and Yugoslavia to France.

When the French army collapsed this brigade fought its way to Dunkurque
and was, together with the English army evacuated to England. The fact,
that there was a Jewish presence in this brigade, should be of interest
to family research, but during the withdrawel >from French soil most
personell documentation was lost. This brigade was greatly enlarged in
England and became the "First Polish Armoured Division"

At the invasion of France the Jewish presence in this Division numbered
some 600 officers and men. Some 70 Jewish officers and men were killed in
action in France, Belgium, Holland and Germany. Two Jewish army chaplainsl
looked after the spiritual needs of the Jewish soldiers.

Willie Glaser,
St. Laurent Que., Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Polish Legion Of French Army & POW. #general

Willie Glaser <velvel@...>
 

The name "Polish Legion of the French army" is a misnomer. There was an
independent Polish unit fighting with and under overall command of the
French army. This unit was the 10th Polish Cavalry Brigade, commanded by
General Maczek. The officers and soldiers of this brigade made their
escape as civilians via Rumania and Yugoslavia to France.

When the French army collapsed this brigade fought its way to Dunkurque
and was, together with the English army evacuated to England. The fact,
that there was a Jewish presence in this brigade, should be of interest
to family research, but during the withdrawel >from French soil most
personell documentation was lost. This brigade was greatly enlarged in
England and became the "First Polish Armoured Division"

At the invasion of France the Jewish presence in this Division numbered
some 600 officers and men. Some 70 Jewish officers and men were killed in
action in France, Belgium, Holland and Germany. Two Jewish army chaplainsl
looked after the spiritual needs of the Jewish soldiers.

Willie Glaser,
St. Laurent Que., Canada