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JGS-MI Meeting - January 21st #general

Marc D. Manson <mdmcousa@...>
 

The JGS of Michigan will be having a library / research meeting on Sunday,
January 21st >from 12:30pm to 3:00pm at its library at Temple Beth El.

Jim Grey will be speaking on how to plan a family reunion. We have many
new additions to our library collection and all are invited to attend.

Temple Beth El is located at the northwest corner of Telegraph and
14 Mile Road.
Marc D. Manson

MAN'SKIJ>MANSKY>MANSON (Volkovysk; Slonim, Belarus)
WAGNER (Austria; Ft.Wayne, IN; Toledo, OH)
MAC>MATZ (Skaryszew;Radom; Poland) POMERANTZ (Brest-Litovsk - Belarus)
TURUFF--TUREFF (Russia; New York) BROCK (New York)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS-MI Meeting - January 21st #general

Marc D. Manson <mdmcousa@...>
 

The JGS of Michigan will be having a library / research meeting on Sunday,
January 21st >from 12:30pm to 3:00pm at its library at Temple Beth El.

Jim Grey will be speaking on how to plan a family reunion. We have many
new additions to our library collection and all are invited to attend.

Temple Beth El is located at the northwest corner of Telegraph and
14 Mile Road.
Marc D. Manson

MAN'SKIJ>MANSKY>MANSON (Volkovysk; Slonim, Belarus)
WAGNER (Austria; Ft.Wayne, IN; Toledo, OH)
MAC>MATZ (Skaryszew;Radom; Poland) POMERANTZ (Brest-Litovsk - Belarus)
TURUFF--TUREFF (Russia; New York) BROCK (New York)


JGS of Georgia January Meeting #general

Sandi Goldsmith
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Georgia invites you to our January
meeting.

Date: Sunday, January 21, 2001

Place: Cobb County Library

Time: 2:00PM to 5:00PM.
There will be a tour of the research material beginning at 1:00 P.M.

Cobb County Library
Georgia Room
266 Roswell Street
Marietta, GA 30060
(770) 528 2320

For further information see our website at www.jgsg.org

Sandi Goldsmith - Alpharetta, GA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Georgia January Meeting #general

Sandi Goldsmith
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Georgia invites you to our January
meeting.

Date: Sunday, January 21, 2001

Place: Cobb County Library

Time: 2:00PM to 5:00PM.
There will be a tour of the research material beginning at 1:00 P.M.

Cobb County Library
Georgia Room
266 Roswell Street
Marietta, GA 30060
(770) 528 2320

For further information see our website at www.jgsg.org

Sandi Goldsmith - Alpharetta, GA


looking for relatives RUBENS CAHN in Johannesburg #southafrica

rubens shmuel <rub1@...>
 

dear SaSig-ers
my name is Shmuel Rubens, Israeli who lives now in Germany Paderborn.
in my family to which I collect now information we had two people who
went shortly before
the war to south africa, Johannesburg. I am trying to trace them and/or
their decendents.

by searching the cemetry lists >from the Jewish Cemetry Project and
comparing names
and birth dates I think I have traced their graves in the westpark
cemetry Johannesburg.
Do you know maybe if there is some genealogist or family researcher that
can look these
graves for me up and maybe take a picture of them and the script from
the stone ? ?

the names that I suspect that they are my relatives are :

1.
one is the grave of Erna Cahn, a direct cousin of my father.:
, born 24.9.1909 in Erle / raesfeld Germany
immigrated 1938 to South Africa , lived in Johannesburg
married three times . first Husband Erich Haymann , other
husbands unknown
the grave which suites this description is
DOPPELT, Erna
1909 - 17 Aug 1991
location in the cemetry according to the Cemetry project CD
l: M 446

and probably the grave of her husband:

DOPPELT, Leon
1900 - 6 Nov 1969
l: M 445

2. the second possible grave is a grave of another cousin of my father ,
Martha Falk
born Rubens.

Martha was born in 1888 in Linden Hannover
and moved to south africa , Johannesburg maybe before WW2 .
she lived some time with her cousin Erna .
she died in 1946, a fact we know >from letters >from this time


the Grave that exactly suites to this description
is the Grave of

FALK, Martha
1888 - 22 Oct 1946

location in the Cemetry westpark

l: F 78

and maybe her Husband :
FALK, Isidor
1877 c - 23 Dec 1957

location in the Cemetry westpark
l: J 322

my aim is to try to verify >from the photo or the inscript
or on the grave inscript that the maiden name of Erna Doppelt was
really Cahn,
and that the Maiden of Martha Falk was really Rubens.
and then if possible to look for possible still living relatives of them

Best regards and thanks for the help

Shmuel Rubens
holsteiner weg 37
33178 Borchen
Germany


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica looking for relatives RUBENS CAHN in Johannesburg #southafrica

rubens shmuel <rub1@...>
 

dear SaSig-ers
my name is Shmuel Rubens, Israeli who lives now in Germany Paderborn.
in my family to which I collect now information we had two people who
went shortly before
the war to south africa, Johannesburg. I am trying to trace them and/or
their decendents.

by searching the cemetry lists >from the Jewish Cemetry Project and
comparing names
and birth dates I think I have traced their graves in the westpark
cemetry Johannesburg.
Do you know maybe if there is some genealogist or family researcher that
can look these
graves for me up and maybe take a picture of them and the script from
the stone ? ?

the names that I suspect that they are my relatives are :

1.
one is the grave of Erna Cahn, a direct cousin of my father.:
, born 24.9.1909 in Erle / raesfeld Germany
immigrated 1938 to South Africa , lived in Johannesburg
married three times . first Husband Erich Haymann , other
husbands unknown
the grave which suites this description is
DOPPELT, Erna
1909 - 17 Aug 1991
location in the cemetry according to the Cemetry project CD
l: M 446

and probably the grave of her husband:

DOPPELT, Leon
1900 - 6 Nov 1969
l: M 445

2. the second possible grave is a grave of another cousin of my father ,
Martha Falk
born Rubens.

Martha was born in 1888 in Linden Hannover
and moved to south africa , Johannesburg maybe before WW2 .
she lived some time with her cousin Erna .
she died in 1946, a fact we know >from letters >from this time


the Grave that exactly suites to this description
is the Grave of

FALK, Martha
1888 - 22 Oct 1946

location in the Cemetry westpark

l: F 78

and maybe her Husband :
FALK, Isidor
1877 c - 23 Dec 1957

location in the Cemetry westpark
l: J 322

my aim is to try to verify >from the photo or the inscript
or on the grave inscript that the maiden name of Erna Doppelt was
really Cahn,
and that the Maiden of Martha Falk was really Rubens.
and then if possible to look for possible still living relatives of them

Best regards and thanks for the help

Shmuel Rubens
holsteiner weg 37
33178 Borchen
Germany


SCHLANGER - Austro-Hungrarian empire #general

Harry Schlanger <hps@...>
 

I am researching the SCHLANGER family with roots in the Austro-Hungarian
empire (see my previous post 14/01/00). After searching Vienna databases I
have come up with the following Austrian names:

Dormant Foreign Account (Postsporkasse report):
Schlanger Ludwig

1938 Property List:
Schlanger Regina
Schlanger Gisela b. 25/10/1907

The following name was sent to me by an Australian researcher:
Schlanger Lenka (living in Australia) - married to Elemer Fried probably
from Hungry
At this stage I have not linked any of these names to my family tree.

Harry Schlanger
Melbourne, Australia
hps@elite.net.au


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SCHLANGER - Austro-Hungrarian empire #general

Harry Schlanger <hps@...>
 

I am researching the SCHLANGER family with roots in the Austro-Hungarian
empire (see my previous post 14/01/00). After searching Vienna databases I
have come up with the following Austrian names:

Dormant Foreign Account (Postsporkasse report):
Schlanger Ludwig

1938 Property List:
Schlanger Regina
Schlanger Gisela b. 25/10/1907

The following name was sent to me by an Australian researcher:
Schlanger Lenka (living in Australia) - married to Elemer Fried probably
from Hungry
At this stage I have not linked any of these names to my family tree.

Harry Schlanger
Melbourne, Australia
hps@elite.net.au


search for Bronx students (born 1945-1947) #general

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

Dear Fellow JewishGenners,

This isn't exactly genealogy, but it is a search for some Jewish
New Yorkers, so I hope you'll indulge me, as you did back in 1998.

As a volunteer "people finder" for my Bronx HS of Science Class
of '63 I've helped track down a few hundred alumni but some are
still--or newly--missing. Search tools and sources have included

* CD-ROM, Internet, and paper phone directories
* Internet search engines (especially Google and NorthernLight)
* the Social Security Death Index (for parents, and for a few alums)
* parents' obituaries and cemetery records
* credit headers
* AnyBirthday.com
* professional directories and associations (especially ama-assn.com
for the MDs and Martindale.com for the lawyers)
* college alumni associations
* the NYT Personal Names Index
* the NYC birth index
* voter registrations
* motor vehicle records
* neighbors, friends, employers

But budget and time limitations, the length of the list, and a
little bit of self control keep me >from pursuing lost classmates
with quite the zeal I'd apply to lost kin. Any information on
these individuals, born 1945-1947, would be most appreciated.
With your help, maybe I can drop this and go back to my relatives!

And if you'd like to know >from our yearbook whether your cousin
was on the Drosophila Squad (I kid you not!) or his/her 1963
address, feel free to ask. I also have a directory listing all
alumni 1938-1988.

Most of these people lived in the Bronx in 1963; a few lived
in Manhattan and Queens. Husbands' surnames are in parentheses.

Name Parent
-------------------------- ------
BLAIR Alpha Madeline
BLOOM Stephen B. Leo
BLOOM Steven H.
CITRON Irwin J. Sylvia
COHEN Diane
DAVIS (LEWIS) Terry
DIAMOND Robert Leo
DICHTER Daniel H
DICK Steven Jay
FARBMAN Alice M. Meyer
FEILER (ROSEN) Miriam
FRIEDMAN Michael P. Ida
FRIEDMAN Norman E. Edith
FRIEDMAN Ronald E. David
GESUND Lillian J. Arthur
GLIKSMAN Hedy Max
GOLDSMITH William J. Herbert
GOLDSTEIN (ZWACK) Jean Leonard
GROSMAN Renee R.
GRUHER Scott
HAAS Joanna F. MD
Snip
Thanks!

Renee

Renee Steinig
Dix Hills (Long Island), NY
rsteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us

MODERATOR NOTE: Alumni list edited. Please contact
Renee Steinig privately for the complete list.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen search for Bronx students (born 1945-1947) #general

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

Dear Fellow JewishGenners,

This isn't exactly genealogy, but it is a search for some Jewish
New Yorkers, so I hope you'll indulge me, as you did back in 1998.

As a volunteer "people finder" for my Bronx HS of Science Class
of '63 I've helped track down a few hundred alumni but some are
still--or newly--missing. Search tools and sources have included

* CD-ROM, Internet, and paper phone directories
* Internet search engines (especially Google and NorthernLight)
* the Social Security Death Index (for parents, and for a few alums)
* parents' obituaries and cemetery records
* credit headers
* AnyBirthday.com
* professional directories and associations (especially ama-assn.com
for the MDs and Martindale.com for the lawyers)
* college alumni associations
* the NYT Personal Names Index
* the NYC birth index
* voter registrations
* motor vehicle records
* neighbors, friends, employers

But budget and time limitations, the length of the list, and a
little bit of self control keep me >from pursuing lost classmates
with quite the zeal I'd apply to lost kin. Any information on
these individuals, born 1945-1947, would be most appreciated.
With your help, maybe I can drop this and go back to my relatives!

And if you'd like to know >from our yearbook whether your cousin
was on the Drosophila Squad (I kid you not!) or his/her 1963
address, feel free to ask. I also have a directory listing all
alumni 1938-1988.

Most of these people lived in the Bronx in 1963; a few lived
in Manhattan and Queens. Husbands' surnames are in parentheses.

Name Parent
-------------------------- ------
BLAIR Alpha Madeline
BLOOM Stephen B. Leo
BLOOM Steven H.
CITRON Irwin J. Sylvia
COHEN Diane
DAVIS (LEWIS) Terry
DIAMOND Robert Leo
DICHTER Daniel H
DICK Steven Jay
FARBMAN Alice M. Meyer
FEILER (ROSEN) Miriam
FRIEDMAN Michael P. Ida
FRIEDMAN Norman E. Edith
FRIEDMAN Ronald E. David
GESUND Lillian J. Arthur
GLIKSMAN Hedy Max
GOLDSMITH William J. Herbert
GOLDSTEIN (ZWACK) Jean Leonard
GROSMAN Renee R.
GRUHER Scott
HAAS Joanna F. MD
Snip
Thanks!

Renee

Renee Steinig
Dix Hills (Long Island), NY
rsteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us

MODERATOR NOTE: Alumni list edited. Please contact
Renee Steinig privately for the complete list.


Re: English Translation of Stammbuch der Frankfurter Juden #general

Dick Plotz
 

Leonard Robbins asked,

I have been unable to locate a copy of the English Translation
of Stammbuch der Frankfurter Juden by Alexander Dietz which was published
about 1988
This is not surprising, as the translation was published in a limited edition
of no more than a couple of hundred copies, by advance subscription only.
Major institutions such as the Leo Baeck Institute were among the
subscribers, but because of the nature of the book I doubt that any would
be willing to allow it out on interlibrary loan. Most of the subscribers
were surviving Jews >from Frankfurt or members of major Frankfurt Jewish
families.

But the unavailability of this book is not quite the tragedy it might have
been. I was able to borrow the copy of a neighbor who is a survivor >from
Frankfurt and compare it to the original, obtained by interlibrary loan.
Many minor errors crept in in the translation and publication process,
inevitably. While these would be of little consequence in the narrative
sections, they render the gene.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: English Translation of Stammbuch der Frankfurter Juden #general

Dick Plotz
 

Leonard Robbins asked,

I have been unable to locate a copy of the English Translation
of Stammbuch der Frankfurter Juden by Alexander Dietz which was published
about 1988
This is not surprising, as the translation was published in a limited edition
of no more than a couple of hundred copies, by advance subscription only.
Major institutions such as the Leo Baeck Institute were among the
subscribers, but because of the nature of the book I doubt that any would
be willing to allow it out on interlibrary loan. Most of the subscribers
were surviving Jews >from Frankfurt or members of major Frankfurt Jewish
families.

But the unavailability of this book is not quite the tragedy it might have
been. I was able to borrow the copy of a neighbor who is a survivor >from
Frankfurt and compare it to the original, obtained by interlibrary loan.
Many minor errors crept in in the translation and publication process,
inevitably. While these would be of little consequence in the narrative
sections, they render the gene.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA


Re: Vilna Gaon #belarus

Joyce Weaver <joyweave@...>
 

Yes, look here:

http://www.avotaynu.com/gaontree.html

Joy Weaver

Irv Wiener wrote:

Can someone please provide me with a genealogy of the first two
generations of the Vilna Gaon ? Is this available online anywhere ?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Vilna Gaon #general

Joyce Weaver <joyweave@...>
 

Yes, look here:

http://www.avotaynu.com/gaontree.html

Joy Weaver

Irv Wiener wrote:

Can someone please provide me with a genealogy of the first two
generations of the Vilna Gaon ? Is this available online anywhere ?


Seaching: SCHMAIS (Odessa and Soroki / Soroka) #general

Asparagirl <asparagirl@...>
 

Seeking information on the family and descendants of "Alter" Chaim SCHMAIS.
His family may have been >from Odessa, Ukraine, although he settled later in
the town of Soroki / Soroka, Ukraine, on the Moldova border, near the Dneister
River. He made carbonated soda and beer for a living.

"Alter" Chaim Schmais (b. 1865, maybe, or earlier) m. "Bobbe" Nechama *Unknown

1) Burach SCHMAIS (possible descendants in Argentina)
2) Yisroel SCHMAIS
3) Udel SCHMAIS
4) Maryem Baila "Bella" SCHMAIS m. Yechiel Mechel "Mikoel" BERCHES
---> had seven kids; know their names and trees
5) Moishe SCHMAIS m. "Bobbe" *UNKNOWN
---> had five kids; know their names and trees
6) Faiga Raisel SCHMAIS m. Yisroel LANGE, then m. Frank FISHMAN
---> had two kids by the first husband and four kids by the second
husband; know their names and trees
7) Chanah SCHMAIS m. Yosef FEINSTEIN
---> had five kids; know their names and trees

Other relevant names in the tree (surnames of various descendants):
BORENSTEIN, RAUCH, KLEINMAN, BERKIS, BERKES, GELERTER, FELDMAN, DENNENBERG,
SHERMAN, BLATT, ROSENBLATT --> RAYMOND, HELFGOTT, FISCHER --> WARREN,
YANKWITT, HIMMELSTEIN, and GERBS.

Brooke Schreier
asparagirl@dca.net

Philadelphia, PA

Searching: SCHREIER, SANDELMAN, RAPS, YUDKIN, and a host of others
Towns of research: Nadvorna (Nadvornaya / Nadvornaja), Ukraine; Kolomea
(Kolomyya / Kolomyja), Ukraine and a host of others


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seaching: SCHMAIS (Odessa and Soroki / Soroka) #general

Asparagirl <asparagirl@...>
 

Seeking information on the family and descendants of "Alter" Chaim SCHMAIS.
His family may have been >from Odessa, Ukraine, although he settled later in
the town of Soroki / Soroka, Ukraine, on the Moldova border, near the Dneister
River. He made carbonated soda and beer for a living.

"Alter" Chaim Schmais (b. 1865, maybe, or earlier) m. "Bobbe" Nechama *Unknown

1) Burach SCHMAIS (possible descendants in Argentina)
2) Yisroel SCHMAIS
3) Udel SCHMAIS
4) Maryem Baila "Bella" SCHMAIS m. Yechiel Mechel "Mikoel" BERCHES
---> had seven kids; know their names and trees
5) Moishe SCHMAIS m. "Bobbe" *UNKNOWN
---> had five kids; know their names and trees
6) Faiga Raisel SCHMAIS m. Yisroel LANGE, then m. Frank FISHMAN
---> had two kids by the first husband and four kids by the second
husband; know their names and trees
7) Chanah SCHMAIS m. Yosef FEINSTEIN
---> had five kids; know their names and trees

Other relevant names in the tree (surnames of various descendants):
BORENSTEIN, RAUCH, KLEINMAN, BERKIS, BERKES, GELERTER, FELDMAN, DENNENBERG,
SHERMAN, BLATT, ROSENBLATT --> RAYMOND, HELFGOTT, FISCHER --> WARREN,
YANKWITT, HIMMELSTEIN, and GERBS.

Brooke Schreier
asparagirl@dca.net

Philadelphia, PA

Searching: SCHREIER, SANDELMAN, RAPS, YUDKIN, and a host of others
Towns of research: Nadvorna (Nadvornaya / Nadvornaja), Ukraine; Kolomea
(Kolomyya / Kolomyja), Ukraine and a host of others


GenAmi Forum and review #general

Micheline GUTMANN <MichelineGUTMANN@...>
 

GenAmi, association of Jewish International Genealogy in France, has now
opened a forum for its members. For now, it is considered as a complement
to our review. It has already begun with some success which will be more
and more frequent when all the members will subscribe. In the future, it
is possible imagine the extension of the access to other people. We have
to study later this possibility.

We insist on the international side of our association : we are able to
read messages not only in French but in English, German, Spanish, Italian.
Since now our review included articles concerning Belgium, Luxembourg,
Germany, Vienna, Sweden, Poland, London, Italy, Courland, Jamaica soon.
Many articles mention Jewishgen and the different SIG. Some articles are
written in English.

Of course, the traditional French genealogy is included : we have quite
all the documents ever printed for Alsace, a lot for Lorraine, all the
documents about Jews of Vaucluse (Provence) and also Paris, and we can
answer to most of the questions. Our review is opened to everypeople who
wishes to write an article about his speciality or his country.

For research in France; especially in Paris for 20th century, members may
be helped by professional genealogists if they wish, whose work we can
guide and follow.

Micheline GUTMANN, GenAmi, Paris, France
http://asso.genami.free.fr


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GenAmi Forum and review #general

Micheline GUTMANN <MichelineGUTMANN@...>
 

GenAmi, association of Jewish International Genealogy in France, has now
opened a forum for its members. For now, it is considered as a complement
to our review. It has already begun with some success which will be more
and more frequent when all the members will subscribe. In the future, it
is possible imagine the extension of the access to other people. We have
to study later this possibility.

We insist on the international side of our association : we are able to
read messages not only in French but in English, German, Spanish, Italian.
Since now our review included articles concerning Belgium, Luxembourg,
Germany, Vienna, Sweden, Poland, London, Italy, Courland, Jamaica soon.
Many articles mention Jewishgen and the different SIG. Some articles are
written in English.

Of course, the traditional French genealogy is included : we have quite
all the documents ever printed for Alsace, a lot for Lorraine, all the
documents about Jews of Vaucluse (Provence) and also Paris, and we can
answer to most of the questions. Our review is opened to everypeople who
wishes to write an article about his speciality or his country.

For research in France; especially in Paris for 20th century, members may
be helped by professional genealogists if they wish, whose work we can
guide and follow.

Micheline GUTMANN, GenAmi, Paris, France
http://asso.genami.free.fr


Re: copyright #belarus

Norma Brewer <nlbrewer@...>
 

That is partly true, if it is for ONE INDIVIDUAL's use-
- only a small section may be copied
- not if it is widely disseminated, as it would be if copied
and then put on the web for everybodys's use,
- then it would not be for 'personal use'
- The copyright of a text resides with the author.

Perhaps one of our legal members could be kind enough to post on
this list,a copy of current copyright law.
It differs >from country to country- in the USA, and also in UK,
and EEC Copyright is important.
Stealing intellectual property is theft.

Norma Brewer
nlbrewer@btinternet.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Sandler"

I aways thought that one can copy anything in the library if it is for
personal use. Even in school copying articles are common place as long
as credit is given to the author and the article is not used for
commercial purposes.
---------------------------


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: copyright #belarus

Norma Brewer <nlbrewer@...>
 

That is partly true, if it is for ONE INDIVIDUAL's use-
- only a small section may be copied
- not if it is widely disseminated, as it would be if copied
and then put on the web for everybodys's use,
- then it would not be for 'personal use'
- The copyright of a text resides with the author.

Perhaps one of our legal members could be kind enough to post on
this list,a copy of current copyright law.
It differs >from country to country- in the USA, and also in UK,
and EEC Copyright is important.
Stealing intellectual property is theft.

Norma Brewer
nlbrewer@btinternet.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Sandler"

I aways thought that one can copy anything in the library if it is for
personal use. Even in school copying articles are common place as long
as credit is given to the author and the article is not used for
commercial purposes.
---------------------------