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Munkacs Mukachevo shtetlsite is now online #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <Lmagyar@...>
 

By the grace of G-d and with the help of my future son-in-law, the long
awaited shtetlsite for Munkachevo/Munkacs is now online and available for
viewing. Of course, you are the first to whom this announcement is being
made, which will allow those interested to get to the site before it is
flooded (yeh, sure) by the many anticipated visitors. On Monday evening I
will send a notice to the main Jewishgen list. If you know someone who is
not on the H-sig list, but has an interest in Munkacs feel free to let them
know about this as well. I hope you will enjoy perusing the website as much
as I did working on it.

There should be two ways to access the website: 1. Go to the Jewishgen main
page, scroll down to Projects and Activities; the first link under that
category should be shtetlinks. By clicking on that link you will find
yourself on the shtetlinks main page. Scroll down towards the bottom; where
you see Ukraine - click on it. Scroll down the alphabetical listing of
Ukrainian towns and villages until you come to Mukacsveo(sic)- Munkacs.
Finally, click on that link and you are in.

OR 2. click below and that should do the same thing a lot quicker.

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Mukachevo/

Obviously, I am feeling very good right now. Best wishes to all.

Louis Schonfeld


Hungary SIG #Hungary Munkacs Mukachevo shtetlsite is now online #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <Lmagyar@...>
 

By the grace of G-d and with the help of my future son-in-law, the long
awaited shtetlsite for Munkachevo/Munkacs is now online and available for
viewing. Of course, you are the first to whom this announcement is being
made, which will allow those interested to get to the site before it is
flooded (yeh, sure) by the many anticipated visitors. On Monday evening I
will send a notice to the main Jewishgen list. If you know someone who is
not on the H-sig list, but has an interest in Munkacs feel free to let them
know about this as well. I hope you will enjoy perusing the website as much
as I did working on it.

There should be two ways to access the website: 1. Go to the Jewishgen main
page, scroll down to Projects and Activities; the first link under that
category should be shtetlinks. By clicking on that link you will find
yourself on the shtetlinks main page. Scroll down towards the bottom; where
you see Ukraine - click on it. Scroll down the alphabetical listing of
Ukrainian towns and villages until you come to Mukacsveo(sic)- Munkacs.
Finally, click on that link and you are in.

OR 2. click below and that should do the same thing a lot quicker.

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Mukachevo/

Obviously, I am feeling very good right now. Best wishes to all.

Louis Schonfeld


Re: "Berzai" #general

NFatouros@...
 

In his message of 01-13-01 Ben Davidowitz asked about the town of "Berzai"
which he said was in the area of Rokiskis.

I think this town may be Birzh (or Birzai) which was a district capital
near the Latvian border, on the banks of the rivers Amalna and Afushta.
There is quite a lot about the interesting history of this town in Nancy
Schoenburg's and Stuart Schoenburg's "Lithuanian Jewish Communities,"--far
too much for me to papaphrase. The Schoenburgs also list the names of
rabbis and important people who lived in Birzai, and indicate that in
Vol. II of the Encylopedia Judaica, there is a photo of the shoemaker's
synagogue in Birzai.

My 1962 Columbia Lippincott Gazetter says of the town that it was called
Birsen in German and Birzhi in Russian. It was part of the Kovno government
until 1920.

If Birzai is the right town for Mr. Davidowicz, then I refer him also to
Chester G. Cohen's "ShtetlFinder Gazetteer," which notes that the town is
mentioned in the memorial book for Lita and an article about Birzai in the
Encyclopedia Judaica.

I found no entries anywhere for "Berzai."

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:"Berzai" #general

NFatouros@...
 

In his message of 01-13-01 Ben Davidowitz asked about the town of "Berzai"
which he said was in the area of Rokiskis.

I think this town may be Birzh (or Birzai) which was a district capital
near the Latvian border, on the banks of the rivers Amalna and Afushta.
There is quite a lot about the interesting history of this town in Nancy
Schoenburg's and Stuart Schoenburg's "Lithuanian Jewish Communities,"--far
too much for me to papaphrase. The Schoenburgs also list the names of
rabbis and important people who lived in Birzai, and indicate that in
Vol. II of the Encylopedia Judaica, there is a photo of the shoemaker's
synagogue in Birzai.

My 1962 Columbia Lippincott Gazetter says of the town that it was called
Birsen in German and Birzhi in Russian. It was part of the Kovno government
until 1920.

If Birzai is the right town for Mr. Davidowicz, then I refer him also to
Chester G. Cohen's "ShtetlFinder Gazetteer," which notes that the town is
mentioned in the memorial book for Lita and an article about Birzai in the
Encyclopedia Judaica.

I found no entries anywhere for "Berzai."

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.


Kozienice #general

lazare berneman <lazare@...>
 

I have another new e-mail:
hamagidmikozienice@belgacom.net

Lazare Berneman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kozienice #general

lazare berneman <lazare@...>
 

I have another new e-mail:
hamagidmikozienice@belgacom.net

Lazare Berneman


Anyone with UK and US bank accounts - your help requested #general

Genealicej@...
 

Is there anyone with both United Kingdom and United States bank accounts who
would be willing to help me make a payment to a US library for genealogical
research?

The library does not accept credit cards and British bank charges
are very high.

I am hoping I can find someone with bank accounts in both countries and
can pay the sum into their account in the UK, allowing them to write a
check to send to the library.

Please contact me privately if you think you can help me.

Thanks.
Alice Josephs
UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Anyone with UK and US bank accounts - your help requested #general

Genealicej@...
 

Is there anyone with both United Kingdom and United States bank accounts who
would be willing to help me make a payment to a US library for genealogical
research?

The library does not accept credit cards and British bank charges
are very high.

I am hoping I can find someone with bank accounts in both countries and
can pay the sum into their account in the UK, allowing them to write a
check to send to the library.

Please contact me privately if you think you can help me.

Thanks.
Alice Josephs
UK


merchandise for sale?????? #ukraine

Evan Fishman <ebf2001@...>
 

1/14/01

I was wondering if anyone else received a promotion like the following for
Kamenets-Podolskiy souvenirs. Of course I declined, but are you aware of
this kind of activity elsewhere?

Evan Fishman
ebf2001@home.com

From: "TOMEK" <tomekwisniewski@telbank.pl
Subject: Kamenets-Podolskiy Kamieniec Podolski
"Hi
I have found your adress during surf on Internet
In my collection I have 2 old items concern Kamenetz Podolsky..."

Moderator Note: Body of the original email has been omitted.
Please respond prvately to continue a discussion of this matter.
Thank you.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine merchandise for sale?????? #ukraine

Evan Fishman <ebf2001@...>
 

1/14/01

I was wondering if anyone else received a promotion like the following for
Kamenets-Podolskiy souvenirs. Of course I declined, but are you aware of
this kind of activity elsewhere?

Evan Fishman
ebf2001@home.com

From: "TOMEK" <tomekwisniewski@telbank.pl
Subject: Kamenets-Podolskiy Kamieniec Podolski
"Hi
I have found your adress during surf on Internet
In my collection I have 2 old items concern Kamenetz Podolsky..."

Moderator Note: Body of the original email has been omitted.
Please respond prvately to continue a discussion of this matter.
Thank you.


TRACING MY FAMILY #ukraine

Pauline Rockman <pauline@...>
 

Shalom,
I have some information about my paternal ancestors and am seeking more.
Rabbi ? HERZ born in Kalush,(probably 1830 +) in Galicia was one of my
paternal great, great grandfathers. He had 4 children: Mechiel
or Mechel or Michael HERZ born 1857, my great grandfather.
He moved to Magdeburg,Germany post World War 1.
He married Rivka or Rebecca HAMMERMANN.
He perished in 1943 in Theresienstadt,(Terezin)
They had 4 children.

**Samuel HAMMERMANN(my paternal grandfather)born Kalush 1885.
He married Bsaia BERNFELD (born 1898 in Kalush or Stanislawow)in 1912.
She was the daughter of Moshe Zvi BERNFELD {the son of Yosef BERNFELD
(my great, great grandfather)and Sara Raizel HORN the daughter of
Baruch HORN(my great, great grandfather) born Stanislawow.
My grandfather Samuel HAMMERMANN served in the Austro-Hungarian army
during World War 1, then left for Berlin. Left for Sydney, Australia in 1939.
he died in 1961.

**herein lies one of my questions, Samuel HAMMERMANN took his mother's
maiden name as his surname..my father has no idea why there was this
name change. I grew up with the name HAMMERMAN but knew that HERZ was
really the family name.

Pauline HAMMERMAN ROCKMAN
Melbourne, Australia

Moderator Note: Please remember to capitalize only surnames.


Re: An understatement... #yizkorbooks

DebALev@...
 

In a message dated 1/14/01 6:33:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,
ada01@netvision.net.il writes:

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/plock/tomarek.htm

Ada, thank you. It was a wonderful and fitting response. I do hope you will
share any response you receive >from that young man!

Debbie Levenstein


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine TRACING MY FAMILY #ukraine

Pauline Rockman <pauline@...>
 

Shalom,
I have some information about my paternal ancestors and am seeking more.
Rabbi ? HERZ born in Kalush,(probably 1830 +) in Galicia was one of my
paternal great, great grandfathers. He had 4 children: Mechiel
or Mechel or Michael HERZ born 1857, my great grandfather.
He moved to Magdeburg,Germany post World War 1.
He married Rivka or Rebecca HAMMERMANN.
He perished in 1943 in Theresienstadt,(Terezin)
They had 4 children.

**Samuel HAMMERMANN(my paternal grandfather)born Kalush 1885.
He married Bsaia BERNFELD (born 1898 in Kalush or Stanislawow)in 1912.
She was the daughter of Moshe Zvi BERNFELD {the son of Yosef BERNFELD
(my great, great grandfather)and Sara Raizel HORN the daughter of
Baruch HORN(my great, great grandfather) born Stanislawow.
My grandfather Samuel HAMMERMANN served in the Austro-Hungarian army
during World War 1, then left for Berlin. Left for Sydney, Australia in 1939.
he died in 1961.

**herein lies one of my questions, Samuel HAMMERMANN took his mother's
maiden name as his surname..my father has no idea why there was this
name change. I grew up with the name HAMMERMAN but knew that HERZ was
really the family name.

Pauline HAMMERMAN ROCKMAN
Melbourne, Australia

Moderator Note: Please remember to capitalize only surnames.


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Re: An understatement... #yizkorbooks

DebALev@...
 

In a message dated 1/14/01 6:33:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,
ada01@netvision.net.il writes:

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/plock/tomarek.htm

Ada, thank you. It was a wonderful and fitting response. I do hope you will
share any response you receive >from that young man!

Debbie Levenstein


Kievskie Gubernskie Vedomosti Project #ukraine

Joan Rosen <jrosen@...>
 

An easier solution would be for each of us to search on the web
college/university library catalogs for each institution in our own
geographical area. Such catalogs are easily available.

Quoting Florence Elman
Ukraine SIG Coordinator

"As you are probably aware, the Ukraine SIG is investigating
the feasibility of purchasing microfilm of the Kiev Gubernskie
Vedomosti, in order to translate relevant material & make it
available on our website."

Joan Rosen
jrosen@voicenet.com
Elkins Park, Pa (outside Philadelphia)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Kievskie Gubernskie Vedomosti Project #ukraine

Joan Rosen <jrosen@...>
 

An easier solution would be for each of us to search on the web
college/university library catalogs for each institution in our own
geographical area. Such catalogs are easily available.

Quoting Florence Elman
Ukraine SIG Coordinator

"As you are probably aware, the Ukraine SIG is investigating
the feasibility of purchasing microfilm of the Kiev Gubernskie
Vedomosti, in order to translate relevant material & make it
available on our website."

Joan Rosen
jrosen@voicenet.com
Elkins Park, Pa (outside Philadelphia)


Re: Kievskie Gubernskie Vedomosti #ukraine

Alan Shuchat <ashuchat@...>
 

The WorldCat database shows these libraries hold Kievskie Gubernskie Vedomosti:


NY -NEW YORK PUB LIBR RES LIBR NYP -
OH -OHIO STATE UNIV, THE OSU -
Title: Kievskiia gubernskiia viedomosti
Publication: Kiev : Tip. gub. pravleniia,
Year: 1838 1917
Frequency: Weekly
Description: 1838-1917.; 80 v.
Note(s): Description based on: No. 1 (7 genvaria 1838)./
Reproduction: Microfilm./ [Moskva] :/ National
Library of Russia,/
1995./ 136 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.
Accession No: OCLC: 40262986


There's also:

IL -UNIV OF CHICAGO CGU -
Title: [Card catalog of the gubernskie, oblastnye, and
voiskovye vedomosti >from the National Library of Russia,
St. Petersburg.
Corp Author: Rossiiskaia natsionalínaia biblioteka.
Publication: New York : N. Ross,
Year: 2000
Description: 87 microfiche : p., positive ;, 11 x 15 cm.
Accession No: OCLC: 45589274

I don't know why it doesn't come up in WorldCat, but the Harvard catalog shows

Kievskiia gubernskiia vedomosti.
Publication began in 1838 and ceased in 1916? Cf. Bibl. period.
izd. Rossii 1901-16, vol. 2, item 3880.
Kiev.
Microforms (Lamont): Film S 1061
Microfilm, positive, of negative held by the State Lenin Library in Moscow.
--
Alan Shuchat
ashuchat@wellesley.edu
Newton, Mass.

Researching:
SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka),
Tavrig, Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoye)
KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets)
BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolski)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Kievskie Gubernskie Vedomosti #ukraine

Alan Shuchat <ashuchat@...>
 

The WorldCat database shows these libraries hold Kievskie Gubernskie Vedomosti:


NY -NEW YORK PUB LIBR RES LIBR NYP -
OH -OHIO STATE UNIV, THE OSU -
Title: Kievskiia gubernskiia viedomosti
Publication: Kiev : Tip. gub. pravleniia,
Year: 1838 1917
Frequency: Weekly
Description: 1838-1917.; 80 v.
Note(s): Description based on: No. 1 (7 genvaria 1838)./
Reproduction: Microfilm./ [Moskva] :/ National
Library of Russia,/
1995./ 136 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.
Accession No: OCLC: 40262986


There's also:

IL -UNIV OF CHICAGO CGU -
Title: [Card catalog of the gubernskie, oblastnye, and
voiskovye vedomosti >from the National Library of Russia,
St. Petersburg.
Corp Author: Rossiiskaia natsionalínaia biblioteka.
Publication: New York : N. Ross,
Year: 2000
Description: 87 microfiche : p., positive ;, 11 x 15 cm.
Accession No: OCLC: 45589274

I don't know why it doesn't come up in WorldCat, but the Harvard catalog shows

Kievskiia gubernskiia vedomosti.
Publication began in 1838 and ceased in 1916? Cf. Bibl. period.
izd. Rossii 1901-16, vol. 2, item 3880.
Kiev.
Microforms (Lamont): Film S 1061
Microfilm, positive, of negative held by the State Lenin Library in Moscow.
--
Alan Shuchat
ashuchat@wellesley.edu
Newton, Mass.

Researching:
SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka),
Tavrig, Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoye)
KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets)
BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolski)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


NOTE: The Jewish Encyclopedia #belarus

Elsebeth Paikin
 

At 09:02 14-01-01 +0000, snillop@tesco.net wrote:
David Fox wrote

"The Jewish Encyclopedia", first published in 1904 by Funk and
Wagnalls Company. This encyclopedia is written in English and there are
a number of articles in it that would be of interest to Belarus
researchers. There are articles on many of the major gubernia and uezd
towns. Because the encyclopedia is over 75 years old, there are no
copyright restrictions on republishing selected articles on the SIG
website.
I recently wanted photocopies of a book published in 1916. The
librarian said I could have them only if the author (the owner of the
copyright, presumably) had been dead for 75 years. The date of
publication apparently was not relevant.

Harold Pollins

The copyright laws vary >from country to country -- In Denmark the copyright
is with the author or his heirs until 70 years after his death!!! Not after
the publication of his work!

As an example:
A book published in the beginning of the 20th century is not yet free of
copyright if the author didn't die till -- say -- around the 1950'ies!
In that case we will have to wait until the 2020'ies to use his book - that
is if we cannot find the heirs and get their written permission!!!!

Furthermore the publisher might also have copyrights (depending on the
contract made with the author at the time of the publication).

So it can be tricky!
In the case of the Jewish Encyclopedia, it depends on the laws of the
country in which is was published (and maybe also -- not quite sure about
that -- on the nationality of the author).

So caution is needed!

Best regards


--
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark,
e-mail: elsebeth@paikin.dk
--


Belarus SIG #Belarus NOTE: The Jewish Encyclopedia #belarus

Elsebeth Paikin
 

At 09:02 14-01-01 +0000, snillop@tesco.net wrote:
David Fox wrote

"The Jewish Encyclopedia", first published in 1904 by Funk and
Wagnalls Company. This encyclopedia is written in English and there are
a number of articles in it that would be of interest to Belarus
researchers. There are articles on many of the major gubernia and uezd
towns. Because the encyclopedia is over 75 years old, there are no
copyright restrictions on republishing selected articles on the SIG
website.
I recently wanted photocopies of a book published in 1916. The
librarian said I could have them only if the author (the owner of the
copyright, presumably) had been dead for 75 years. The date of
publication apparently was not relevant.

Harold Pollins

The copyright laws vary >from country to country -- In Denmark the copyright
is with the author or his heirs until 70 years after his death!!! Not after
the publication of his work!

As an example:
A book published in the beginning of the 20th century is not yet free of
copyright if the author didn't die till -- say -- around the 1950'ies!
In that case we will have to wait until the 2020'ies to use his book - that
is if we cannot find the heirs and get their written permission!!!!

Furthermore the publisher might also have copyrights (depending on the
contract made with the author at the time of the publication).

So it can be tricky!
In the case of the Jewish Encyclopedia, it depends on the laws of the
country in which is was published (and maybe also -- not quite sure about
that -- on the nationality of the author).

So caution is needed!

Best regards


--
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark,
e-mail: elsebeth@paikin.dk
--