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Jewish Encyclopedia #belarus

Meshenberg, Michael J. <mjmeshenberg@...>
 

I'd like to address two comments related to my posting yesterday about the
Jewish Encyclopedia.

Udi Cain wrote:
That encyclopaedia contains also articles about individuals and I suppose
more. Don't you think that the idea should be that anyone, who is
interested in
any subject, out of that encyclopaedia, would be asked to volunteer, to
type
his choice for all of us. One never knows what and when any article will be
for the benefit of the research etc.
We're working on shtetl articles rather than names or other topics for
several reasons:
1. They're of the greatest interest to the greatest number of our members.
2. We have a clear place to post them, in the specific Shtetls of Belarus
pages. It's not clear where other articles might be placed.
3. It's better to concentrate our limited resources, including not
overburdening or abusing Judy, rather than spreading ourselves too thin.

Of course, individuals willing to work on articles of interest to them are
always encouraged to do so.

Ernie Fine wrote:
Why is this being retyped instead of scanned and OCR'd? Is the print
quality that bad that it
won't OCR properly?
Asked and answered by Dave Fox last week. It didn't scan well. Also, the
articles are generally fairly short so that retyping is not much of a chore.

Mike Meshenberg
Research Coordinator, Belarus SIG


Belarus SIG #Belarus Jewish Encyclopedia #belarus

Meshenberg, Michael J. <mjmeshenberg@...>
 

I'd like to address two comments related to my posting yesterday about the
Jewish Encyclopedia.

Udi Cain wrote:
That encyclopaedia contains also articles about individuals and I suppose
more. Don't you think that the idea should be that anyone, who is
interested in
any subject, out of that encyclopaedia, would be asked to volunteer, to
type
his choice for all of us. One never knows what and when any article will be
for the benefit of the research etc.
We're working on shtetl articles rather than names or other topics for
several reasons:
1. They're of the greatest interest to the greatest number of our members.
2. We have a clear place to post them, in the specific Shtetls of Belarus
pages. It's not clear where other articles might be placed.
3. It's better to concentrate our limited resources, including not
overburdening or abusing Judy, rather than spreading ourselves too thin.

Of course, individuals willing to work on articles of interest to them are
always encouraged to do so.

Ernie Fine wrote:
Why is this being retyped instead of scanned and OCR'd? Is the print
quality that bad that it
won't OCR properly?
Asked and answered by Dave Fox last week. It didn't scan well. Also, the
articles are generally fairly short so that retyping is not much of a chore.

Mike Meshenberg
Research Coordinator, Belarus SIG


Re: Volunteers #belarus

ComputerCarolyn@...
 

To those who have volunteered -- or are interested in volunteering -- to
type articles >from the Jewish Encyclopedia for use in the Shtetls of Belarus
web pages:

Having already offered to copy and mail articles, Judy Floam has now agreed
to maintain records of who is doing what to avoid duplication. We're
confident that the copyright has long since expired. So, let's follow these
steps:

1. Contact Judy at <gfloam@netrax.net> to volunteer to type either specific
shtetls or others that might be assigned. Include your postal address.
(She's already been in touch with many of you.)
2. Judy will check to see if there is an article for your shtetl. Most
smaller ones are not included.
3. She'll copy and mail the article(s) to you and let you know by e-mail
which article(s) you should type up.
4. Type the text of the article into an MS Word file, and send it by e-mail
to Edward Rosenbaum <erosenbaum@mail.com>, with a copy to Judy so she can
cross it off her list. If you don't have access to Word, use any word
processing file and save as an MSWord file or, if necessary, as a generic
text (ASCII) file.
5. Edward will review the text and upload it to the appropriate shtetl page.
Periodic announcements will be made of new articles posted.

Happily, there seem to be a number of volunteers who offered to type any
shtetl. So even if you can't volunteer yourself, please let Judy know what
shtetls you'd like to have typed and she'll assign it to someone.

Thanks to Judy and to all who have volunteered.

Mike Meshenberg
Belarus SIG Research Coordinator


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Volunteers #belarus

ComputerCarolyn@...
 

To those who have volunteered -- or are interested in volunteering -- to
type articles >from the Jewish Encyclopedia for use in the Shtetls of Belarus
web pages:

Having already offered to copy and mail articles, Judy Floam has now agreed
to maintain records of who is doing what to avoid duplication. We're
confident that the copyright has long since expired. So, let's follow these
steps:

1. Contact Judy at <gfloam@netrax.net> to volunteer to type either specific
shtetls or others that might be assigned. Include your postal address.
(She's already been in touch with many of you.)
2. Judy will check to see if there is an article for your shtetl. Most
smaller ones are not included.
3. She'll copy and mail the article(s) to you and let you know by e-mail
which article(s) you should type up.
4. Type the text of the article into an MS Word file, and send it by e-mail
to Edward Rosenbaum <erosenbaum@mail.com>, with a copy to Judy so she can
cross it off her list. If you don't have access to Word, use any word
processing file and save as an MSWord file or, if necessary, as a generic
text (ASCII) file.
5. Edward will review the text and upload it to the appropriate shtetl page.
Periodic announcements will be made of new articles posted.

Happily, there seem to be a number of volunteers who offered to type any
shtetl. So even if you can't volunteer yourself, please let Judy know what
shtetls you'd like to have typed and she'll assign it to someone.

Thanks to Judy and to all who have volunteered.

Mike Meshenberg
Belarus SIG Research Coordinator


Seeking SHULMAN in Khazangoroduk #belarus

Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <Shmuel@...>
 

I am seeking information on the SHULMAN family in Khazangoroduk. It
was poland at the time, but I believe that it is now Belarus. I'm
specifically looking for Lazr, Labe and Zalman Dove (Berel), and for
Zalman Dov's wife Chanah (maiden name unknown).



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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
Atid/2
Team OS/2
Team PL/I
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Seeking SHULMAN in Khazangoroduk #belarus

Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <Shmuel@...>
 

I am seeking information on the SHULMAN family in Khazangoroduk. It
was poland at the time, but I believe that it is now Belarus. I'm
specifically looking for Lazr, Labe and Zalman Dove (Berel), and for
Zalman Dov's wife Chanah (maiden name unknown).



--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
Atid/2
Team OS/2
Team PL/I
-----------------------------------------------------------


Re: Jewish Encyclopedia - Copyright #belarus

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

I looked this title up on the NYPL's website. They have two entries for the
title, with as far as I can tell, the same bibliographic/editorial info
except for publishing dates, publisher, LCCNs and Dewey number:
The first entry is shown as published by "Funk & Wagnalls, 1901-1906, LCCN
01009359, Dewey 296.03J" No problem apparent there.
But the second cites "Ktav Pub.House [1964?], LCCN 64009604, Dewey
910.0317J." And it includes the added description "assisted by American and
foreign boards of consulting editors."
I have no idea if the copyright applies only to the later edition and not
retroactively, but since a later edition exists, I suspect further research
is indicated.

Michelle Frager

"David M. Fox" <fox@erols.com> wrote:
I spoke with the Library of Congress copyright office this morning to
get clarification about what we are trying to do with "The Jewish
Encyclopedia" first published in 1904 and republished through 1912. The
LOC said that "anything published prior to 1923 was in the public
domain".

Therefore, I see no problems with the project to get the Belarus related
articles retyped and put on the SIG website.



Searching:

-> IN BELARUS (Grodno, Bobruisk, Hlusk, Kaslovich):

FRAKT, WOLFSON, PADOVSCHIK, SHAPIRO, DINABURSKY

-> IN UKRAINE Podolia (Mogilov-Podolski, Snitkov, Zmerinka, Zamekov, Liadova, Vinkivtsi): FRAGER/TRAGER, SEROTA, ZECKSER, SCHWEISBERG, BASSUK,
TRACHTENBERG


Moderator: with David Fox's definitive comment on the actual books in question this thread is closed.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Jewish Encyclopedia - Copyright #belarus

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

I looked this title up on the NYPL's website. They have two entries for the
title, with as far as I can tell, the same bibliographic/editorial info
except for publishing dates, publisher, LCCNs and Dewey number:
The first entry is shown as published by "Funk & Wagnalls, 1901-1906, LCCN
01009359, Dewey 296.03J" No problem apparent there.
But the second cites "Ktav Pub.House [1964?], LCCN 64009604, Dewey
910.0317J." And it includes the added description "assisted by American and
foreign boards of consulting editors."
I have no idea if the copyright applies only to the later edition and not
retroactively, but since a later edition exists, I suspect further research
is indicated.

Michelle Frager

"David M. Fox" <fox@erols.com> wrote:
I spoke with the Library of Congress copyright office this morning to
get clarification about what we are trying to do with "The Jewish
Encyclopedia" first published in 1904 and republished through 1912. The
LOC said that "anything published prior to 1923 was in the public
domain".

Therefore, I see no problems with the project to get the Belarus related
articles retyped and put on the SIG website.



Searching:

-> IN BELARUS (Grodno, Bobruisk, Hlusk, Kaslovich):

FRAKT, WOLFSON, PADOVSCHIK, SHAPIRO, DINABURSKY

-> IN UKRAINE Podolia (Mogilov-Podolski, Snitkov, Zmerinka, Zamekov, Liadova, Vinkivtsi): FRAGER/TRAGER, SEROTA, ZECKSER, SCHWEISBERG, BASSUK,
TRACHTENBERG


Moderator: with David Fox's definitive comment on the actual books in question this thread is closed.


Re: re Jewish and non-Jewish families #belarus

Mark L. Spiegel <wysiwig@...>
 

Hello All:

Just a note on Jewish/Non-Jewish families with the same name:

At some point in history, many families were given last names or instructed to
choose a last name by the local government. It made it easier to track
individuals. Many names were based on the occupation of the head of the
household. My name, Spiegel, at one time referred to a worker of glass
or lens grinder. My geneological search of census records has turned up many
Catholic Spiegels >from Hungary, Galicia, etc. I doubt we are related. Just another
possible explaination. Hope this helps.

Mark L. Spiegel
wysiwig@earthlink.net

Researching: PEJLATOWICZ: Derechin, Belarus/Bialystok, Poland
TAITZ: Dvinsk, Latvia
SPIEGEL: Odessa, Ukraine
GOLDBERG: Odessa, Ukraine


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: re Jewish and non-Jewish families #belarus

Mark L. Spiegel <wysiwig@...>
 

Hello All:

Just a note on Jewish/Non-Jewish families with the same name:

At some point in history, many families were given last names or instructed to
choose a last name by the local government. It made it easier to track
individuals. Many names were based on the occupation of the head of the
household. My name, Spiegel, at one time referred to a worker of glass
or lens grinder. My geneological search of census records has turned up many
Catholic Spiegels >from Hungary, Galicia, etc. I doubt we are related. Just another
possible explaination. Hope this helps.

Mark L. Spiegel
wysiwig@earthlink.net

Researching: PEJLATOWICZ: Derechin, Belarus/Bialystok, Poland
TAITZ: Dvinsk, Latvia
SPIEGEL: Odessa, Ukraine
GOLDBERG: Odessa, Ukraine


results correction #dna

Al Bell <allbell@...>
 

I just found out that I accidentally reported the position of each of my
substitutions to be one place higher than I should have. My actual
substitutions are at 16-111, 16-223, 16-225 and 16-362, which might put me
in haplogroup H or D.

a.l. bell
kansas city, missouri


DNA Research #DNA results correction #dna

Al Bell <allbell@...>
 

I just found out that I accidentally reported the position of each of my
substitutions to be one place higher than I should have. My actual
substitutions are at 16-111, 16-223, 16-225 and 16-362, which might put me
in haplogroup H or D.

a.l. bell
kansas city, missouri


Background on Genetics and DNA Mutation #dna

DonnDevine@...
 

A useful glossary by Dr. Martin Richards of University College, London,
appears at
<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucbtmbr/glossary.html>

He notes that terminology has not stabilized in the field, and his list of
terms as used in his lectures includes, for example, "clade" but does not
indicate that "haplogroup" is also used in the same sense.

Two lectures >from his 1999 course "Human Population Genetics and Evolution,"
with charts, are linked >from his home page at
<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucbtmbr/>
They cover a genealogical approach to population studies, and the
construction of gene trees, showing the how various DNA mutations derive >from
earlier haplotypes.


Donn Devine
Wilmington, Delaware, USA
donndevine@aol.com

"One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown
is the belief that one's work is terribly important."
--Attributed to Bertrand Russell (1872-1970), but not verified.


DNA Research #DNA Background on Genetics and DNA Mutation #dna

DonnDevine@...
 

A useful glossary by Dr. Martin Richards of University College, London,
appears at
<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucbtmbr/glossary.html>

He notes that terminology has not stabilized in the field, and his list of
terms as used in his lectures includes, for example, "clade" but does not
indicate that "haplogroup" is also used in the same sense.

Two lectures >from his 1999 course "Human Population Genetics and Evolution,"
with charts, are linked >from his home page at
<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucbtmbr/>
They cover a genealogical approach to population studies, and the
construction of gene trees, showing the how various DNA mutations derive >from
earlier haplotypes.


Donn Devine
Wilmington, Delaware, USA
donndevine@aol.com

"One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown
is the belief that one's work is terribly important."
--Attributed to Bertrand Russell (1872-1970), but not verified.


Re: Female Name Leie #general

dorothy rivers <dotvic@...>
 

My mother's Jewish name is Leie, in english it's Lillian.

Dorothy Auerbach Rivers New Mexico, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Female Name Leie #general

dorothy rivers <dotvic@...>
 

My mother's Jewish name is Leie, in english it's Lillian.

Dorothy Auerbach Rivers New Mexico, USA


Re: Female name Leie #general

Pamela Weisberger <thewks@...>
 

I've come across a similar name in my family: My g.g.m. known as "Lee"
was actually named (in Poland) "Laia" or "Laja" as in the Hebrew
name "Leah." (It is also possible this was written as a contraction
of "Leisel" or "Liesel" a more Germanic name.

Pamela Weisberger
thewks@hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Female name Leie #general

Pamela Weisberger <thewks@...>
 

I've come across a similar name in my family: My g.g.m. known as "Lee"
was actually named (in Poland) "Laia" or "Laja" as in the Hebrew
name "Leah." (It is also possible this was written as a contraction
of "Leisel" or "Liesel" a more Germanic name.

Pamela Weisberger
thewks@hotmail.com


Meaning of "Rav" on headstone #general

Wakohn@...
 

My g'grandmother's headstone indicates that her husband was "Rav" Chaim
and he was a Rabbi. It also indicates that her father was "Rav" Eli.
Can I take it that the use of "Rav" indicates that the person is/was a
Rabbi or is it used sometimes as a term of "honor?"

Warren Kohn wakohn@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Meaning of "Rav" on headstone #general

Wakohn@...
 

My g'grandmother's headstone indicates that her husband was "Rav" Chaim
and he was a Rabbi. It also indicates that her father was "Rav" Eli.
Can I take it that the use of "Rav" indicates that the person is/was a
Rabbi or is it used sometimes as a term of "honor?"

Warren Kohn wakohn@aol.com