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Re: Hungarian cemeteries #hungary

Peter I. Hidas <thidas@...>
 

Last year I visited Losonc (Lucenec), formerly Nograd county, now
Slovakia, where I took pictures in the Jewish cemetery. Some of my
shots can be found on my home page (see address below). I you want to
post them somewhere you are more than welcome to download them. Soon
I will post more of them.

Peter

We now have a researcher in Budapest who will be indexing Hungarian
cemeteries for the ONLINE WORLDWIDE BURIAL REGISTRY program, which
you can read about at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/.

Feel free to recommend a cemetery whose gravestones you would like
photographed and the data indexed by writing to Lou Schonfeld. In
addition, please help the project by contributing funds to pay for
the work. The money will be used to pay a modest salary and
expenses to this researcher and to pay for needed equipment for the
project.

Tax-deductible donations should be made to the Photograph Jewish
Tombstones project at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Hungary.html.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP Research
jfield@jewishgen.org

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--
Dr. Peter I. Hidas
thidas@sympatico.ca
peterhidas@yahoo.com

At my home page you can find some of my writings:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/thidas
For photographs go to
http://www.community.webshots.com/user/peterhidas


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hungarian cemeteries #hungary

Peter I. Hidas <thidas@...>
 

Last year I visited Losonc (Lucenec), formerly Nograd county, now
Slovakia, where I took pictures in the Jewish cemetery. Some of my
shots can be found on my home page (see address below). I you want to
post them somewhere you are more than welcome to download them. Soon
I will post more of them.

Peter

We now have a researcher in Budapest who will be indexing Hungarian
cemeteries for the ONLINE WORLDWIDE BURIAL REGISTRY program, which
you can read about at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/.

Feel free to recommend a cemetery whose gravestones you would like
photographed and the data indexed by writing to Lou Schonfeld. In
addition, please help the project by contributing funds to pay for
the work. The money will be used to pay a modest salary and
expenses to this researcher and to pay for needed equipment for the
project.

Tax-deductible donations should be made to the Photograph Jewish
Tombstones project at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Hungary.html.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP Research
jfield@jewishgen.org

This SIG (h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org
To post a message to this mailing list please address it to
<h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>

Visit our website at http://www.jewishgen.org/hungary/ , and remember the
H-SIG message archives at
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~sigspop
--
Dr. Peter I. Hidas
thidas@sympatico.ca
peterhidas@yahoo.com

At my home page you can find some of my writings:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/thidas
For photographs go to
http://www.community.webshots.com/user/peterhidas


Re: * Magyarositas = Hungarization (a bit long) #hungary

Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@...>
 

Err, did something get edited out? What book?

A> This book is either published or going to be published in Hungary.
A> Attila Róna

--
Chaim Frenkel


mod. I too had the same question, and Attila responded that he was
referring to the book by Bela Kempelen on Jewish noble families. Messages
that go to the list should be reviewed for clarity and reasonableness.
Also, it seems that I can't remind people enough to snip out
redundant/unecessary narrative when they are responding to questions by
others. The excisions should also include the h-sig/Jewishgen boilerplate
info at the bottom of each posted message. Also, this list cannot process
messages posted in MIME, HTML or any other "language" except "plain text".
Thank you for your cooperation.LS


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: * Magyarositas = Hungarization (a bit long) #hungary

Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@...>
 

Err, did something get edited out? What book?

A> This book is either published or going to be published in Hungary.
A> Attila Róna

--
Chaim Frenkel


mod. I too had the same question, and Attila responded that he was
referring to the book by Bela Kempelen on Jewish noble families. Messages
that go to the list should be reviewed for clarity and reasonableness.
Also, it seems that I can't remind people enough to snip out
redundant/unecessary narrative when they are responding to questions by
others. The excisions should also include the h-sig/Jewishgen boilerplate
info at the bottom of each posted message. Also, this list cannot process
messages posted in MIME, HTML or any other "language" except "plain text".
Thank you for your cooperation.LS


Re: * Magyarositas = Hungarization (a bit long) #hungary

Patricia J. Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

This book is available through the Mormon Family History Centers. I just
ordered it for myself. The film number is 0897093.

Although none of the records indicate that the name change was carried on
through the children, there are notations in the records that Travnicsek
was changed to Mezei in 1895 and the date with the Ministry of Interior's
permit number. >from what I understand there was another name change in
Czech Republic, which changed the name Salek to Travnicsek around 1851! I
believe it is all the same family.

Pat


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: * Magyarositas = Hungarization (a bit long) #hungary

Patricia J. Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

This book is available through the Mormon Family History Centers. I just
ordered it for myself. The film number is 0897093.

Although none of the records indicate that the name change was carried on
through the children, there are notations in the records that Travnicsek
was changed to Mezei in 1895 and the date with the Ministry of Interior's
permit number. >from what I understand there was another name change in
Czech Republic, which changed the name Salek to Travnicsek around 1851! I
believe it is all the same family.

Pat


Guide Book to Poland #poland

Ivona Olszak <olszak@...>
 

My husband and I are planning a trip to Poland this summer. A friend of mine recommended a guide book called "Poland: A Travel Guide to Jewish Heritage".

Unfortunately, we are unable to find it. I am hoping that someone might havethe book and be willing to sell it or lend it out for couple months.
Many thanks in advance.

Ivona Olszak
olszak@helix.mgh.harvard.edu

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland Guide Book to Poland #poland

Ivona Olszak <olszak@...>
 

My husband and I are planning a trip to Poland this summer. A friend of mine recommended a guide book called "Poland: A Travel Guide to Jewish Heritage".

Unfortunately, we are unable to find it. I am hoping that someone might havethe book and be willing to sell it or lend it out for couple months.
Many thanks in advance.

Ivona Olszak
olszak@helix.mgh.harvard.edu

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Rzeszow Branch-Polish State Archives Project Status Update #poland

EDENSARA@...
 

Dear Folks,

I have been advised by JRI-Poland that the Rzeszow registers should be
available for indexing within the next few weeks. (The registers had been
moved >from Rzeszow to Przemysl for fumigation as part of the Polish State
Archives ongoing project to protect and restore those registers needing
attention.) Work will start on the indexing at that time.

Please stay tuned for further announcements about this important and exciting indexing project.

Eden Joachim
Archive Coordinator
Rzeszow Polish State Archives


JRI Poland #Poland Rzeszow Branch-Polish State Archives Project Status Update #poland

EDENSARA@...
 

Dear Folks,

I have been advised by JRI-Poland that the Rzeszow registers should be
available for indexing within the next few weeks. (The registers had been
moved >from Rzeszow to Przemysl for fumigation as part of the Polish State
Archives ongoing project to protect and restore those registers needing
attention.) Work will start on the indexing at that time.

Please stay tuned for further announcements about this important and exciting indexing project.

Eden Joachim
Archive Coordinator
Rzeszow Polish State Archives


Re: LDS Birth Records #poland

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

Phil asks:

I have found LDS birth records of interest to me on
the database. However, few list parents. Why are the
names of parents not being entered onto the database?

The Jewish Records Indexing-Poland's database contains the transliteration
of the index >from the vital records registers. The Shtetl CO-OPs and
volunteers transliterate the information on the index, so if the index does
not contain the parents names then it will not appear on the database. As
it is stated on the website, the database is a first step in your research.

The actual record contains valuable information and your research could
not be complete with out it.

There are a few towns that have extracts on the JRI-Poland database but
those are special circumstances, such as the towns/cities of Warsaw, Tarnow
and Bedzin where volunteers at the Douglas E. Goldman Jewish Genealogical
Center have translated/transliterated full extracts >from the records.

The JRI-Poland volunteers work very hard and spend many hours
transliterating the indices and they should be applauded for their work.

So, speaking of volunteers..... I have sitting in my office, copies of
indices >from the towns of Krzepice and Bodzanow just ready for someone to
work on. Are there any takers out there?


Hadassah Lipsius
JRI-Poland
Transliteration Coordinator
kesher@flashcom.net


JRI Poland #Poland Re: LDS Birth Records #poland

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

Phil asks:

I have found LDS birth records of interest to me on
the database. However, few list parents. Why are the
names of parents not being entered onto the database?

The Jewish Records Indexing-Poland's database contains the transliteration
of the index >from the vital records registers. The Shtetl CO-OPs and
volunteers transliterate the information on the index, so if the index does
not contain the parents names then it will not appear on the database. As
it is stated on the website, the database is a first step in your research.

The actual record contains valuable information and your research could
not be complete with out it.

There are a few towns that have extracts on the JRI-Poland database but
those are special circumstances, such as the towns/cities of Warsaw, Tarnow
and Bedzin where volunteers at the Douglas E. Goldman Jewish Genealogical
Center have translated/transliterated full extracts >from the records.

The JRI-Poland volunteers work very hard and spend many hours
transliterating the indices and they should be applauded for their work.

So, speaking of volunteers..... I have sitting in my office, copies of
indices >from the towns of Krzepice and Bodzanow just ready for someone to
work on. Are there any takers out there?


Hadassah Lipsius
JRI-Poland
Transliteration Coordinator
kesher@flashcom.net


Re: Saul TCHERNICHOVSKY #general

NFatouros@...
 

In his 01-09-01 message Amoz Chernoff expressed his frustration at not
baving found genealogical information for the writer-physician
Shaul TSCHERNICHOVSKY.

Having recently read a book or two which mention TCHERNICHOWSKY in
passing, I did some Internet searching for Saul (and Shaul) TCHERNICHOWSKY,
using a couple of different spellings of the surname. I found that
according to a website:

http://spinoza.tau.ac.il/hci/ins/e_ind.html

for the University of Tel-Aviv of an autobiography by TCHERNICHOWSKY exists.
It is located in the library of the Katz Institute for Rresearch in Hebrew
Literature. How to get at this autobiography would depend on the
willingness and ability of some Israeli Jewishgenner.

Mr. Chernoff hismelf might also try locating in his local college or
public library E.Silberschlag's book on Saul TCHERNICHOWSKY "Poet in
Revolt." Cornell University Press, 1968. There may be some TCHERNICHOWSKY
family information in that book

Mr. Chernoff also remarked that he had learned that TSCHERNICHOWSKY was
born "in a village "(?Belozorka)" near Mikailovka." At first I thought
that "Belozorka" was a garbling of the name "Belaya Tserkov," which is
about 50 miles southeast of Kiev. But that wasn't too likely, according to
the other town Mr. Chernoff had mentioned (Mikailovka) so I found in my
Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer an entry for "Belozerka" which was a village
whose population in 1939 was only something over 500, in Kherson Province,
six miles west of the city Kherson, in the Ukraine.

I checked both my gazetteers for "Mikailovka," because there were
several towns with this name strewn around Russia's vast expanse, and the
town I think Mr. Chernoff was referring to was the one which northeast of
Odessa and which was spelled in Chester G. Cohen's "ShtetlFinder
Gazetteer" as "Mikaylovka."

I do not think there is a yizkor book for Czernowitz, (Czernovetsy,
Czernwicz) but there is mention of it, and maybe some description in a
general reference work: "Arim ve-imahot," Vol. 4. There is certainly an
article about Czernowitz in the Encyclopedia Judaica, although I don't know
whether it mentions the TCHERNIKOVSKY family.

At:

http://www.ibiblio.org/yiddish/Tshernovits/Lichtblau/lichtblau.html

there are articles about Czernowitz and Lemberg by Albert Lichtblau and
Michael John including a section on literature.

At:

http://www.home.ch/~spaw3853/artikel9911_film_zwilling.htm

There is a bibliography of German books about Czernowitz (and,
incidentally a "click-on" to another bibliography of books in German about
Eastern European Jews in general.)

At:

http://www.ibiblio.org/yiddish/AV/frontpp.html

there is a group of watercolors depicting Czernowitz.

I tried doing some searches at Jewishgen for Czernowitz but its site
must have been very busy because whatever I clicked on, "Search this
Website," Discussion Group Archives, Cemetery Project, etc., I got messages
saying that this "website was not accepting requests" now and I should try
again later or do a "reload." But I also got the same messages when I
clicked on some of the URLs I found using the "google" search engine.
Heavy traffic today!!!

I am certain that other Jewishgenners are interested in Czernowitz and
may have some information about it.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Saul TCHERNICHOVSKY #general

NFatouros@...
 

In his 01-09-01 message Amoz Chernoff expressed his frustration at not
baving found genealogical information for the writer-physician
Shaul TSCHERNICHOVSKY.

Having recently read a book or two which mention TCHERNICHOWSKY in
passing, I did some Internet searching for Saul (and Shaul) TCHERNICHOWSKY,
using a couple of different spellings of the surname. I found that
according to a website:

http://spinoza.tau.ac.il/hci/ins/e_ind.html

for the University of Tel-Aviv of an autobiography by TCHERNICHOWSKY exists.
It is located in the library of the Katz Institute for Rresearch in Hebrew
Literature. How to get at this autobiography would depend on the
willingness and ability of some Israeli Jewishgenner.

Mr. Chernoff hismelf might also try locating in his local college or
public library E.Silberschlag's book on Saul TCHERNICHOWSKY "Poet in
Revolt." Cornell University Press, 1968. There may be some TCHERNICHOWSKY
family information in that book

Mr. Chernoff also remarked that he had learned that TSCHERNICHOWSKY was
born "in a village "(?Belozorka)" near Mikailovka." At first I thought
that "Belozorka" was a garbling of the name "Belaya Tserkov," which is
about 50 miles southeast of Kiev. But that wasn't too likely, according to
the other town Mr. Chernoff had mentioned (Mikailovka) so I found in my
Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer an entry for "Belozerka" which was a village
whose population in 1939 was only something over 500, in Kherson Province,
six miles west of the city Kherson, in the Ukraine.

I checked both my gazetteers for "Mikailovka," because there were
several towns with this name strewn around Russia's vast expanse, and the
town I think Mr. Chernoff was referring to was the one which northeast of
Odessa and which was spelled in Chester G. Cohen's "ShtetlFinder
Gazetteer" as "Mikaylovka."

I do not think there is a yizkor book for Czernowitz, (Czernovetsy,
Czernwicz) but there is mention of it, and maybe some description in a
general reference work: "Arim ve-imahot," Vol. 4. There is certainly an
article about Czernowitz in the Encyclopedia Judaica, although I don't know
whether it mentions the TCHERNIKOVSKY family.

At:

http://www.ibiblio.org/yiddish/Tshernovits/Lichtblau/lichtblau.html

there are articles about Czernowitz and Lemberg by Albert Lichtblau and
Michael John including a section on literature.

At:

http://www.home.ch/~spaw3853/artikel9911_film_zwilling.htm

There is a bibliography of German books about Czernowitz (and,
incidentally a "click-on" to another bibliography of books in German about
Eastern European Jews in general.)

At:

http://www.ibiblio.org/yiddish/AV/frontpp.html

there is a group of watercolors depicting Czernowitz.

I tried doing some searches at Jewishgen for Czernowitz but its site
must have been very busy because whatever I clicked on, "Search this
Website," Discussion Group Archives, Cemetery Project, etc., I got messages
saying that this "website was not accepting requests" now and I should try
again later or do a "reload." But I also got the same messages when I
clicked on some of the URLs I found using the "google" search engine.
Heavy traffic today!!!

I am certain that other Jewishgenners are interested in Czernowitz and
may have some information about it.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.


HARRIS and COLE in Chicago #general

SUE DAVIS <suedavis101@...>
 

Dear Jenners,
I am researching the immigration of my great, great grandparents,
Solomon & Hannah Summerfield Harris and Samuel & Sarah Frank Cole. born
about 1820-1835 and >from somewhere in Germany/Poland/Prussia, according
to census records and death certificates. I have Chicago city directory
documentation of them in Chicago in the mid 1840's and early 1850's.
They are also listed as being in the minyan group that formed the first
two Chicago synagogues. The only lead I have for research in Europe is
for Louis Summerfield, born in 1833, in Loebau (now Lubawa, Poland). The
town name is found on his Chicago gravestone. I suspect, and really
hope, Hannah Summerfield Harris was a sibling of Louis. I also do know
Samuel Cole had a son born in NY about 1844 (son was 16 0n the 1860 IL
census). I do not know what their surnames or place of birth might have
been before immigrating.
My questions are: how do I start researching the immigration of these
families? Does anyone know of descendants of these families?

Sue Davis
Venice, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen HARRIS and COLE in Chicago #general

SUE DAVIS <suedavis101@...>
 

Dear Jenners,
I am researching the immigration of my great, great grandparents,
Solomon & Hannah Summerfield Harris and Samuel & Sarah Frank Cole. born
about 1820-1835 and >from somewhere in Germany/Poland/Prussia, according
to census records and death certificates. I have Chicago city directory
documentation of them in Chicago in the mid 1840's and early 1850's.
They are also listed as being in the minyan group that formed the first
two Chicago synagogues. The only lead I have for research in Europe is
for Louis Summerfield, born in 1833, in Loebau (now Lubawa, Poland). The
town name is found on his Chicago gravestone. I suspect, and really
hope, Hannah Summerfield Harris was a sibling of Louis. I also do know
Samuel Cole had a son born in NY about 1844 (son was 16 0n the 1860 IL
census). I do not know what their surnames or place of birth might have
been before immigrating.
My questions are: how do I start researching the immigration of these
families? Does anyone know of descendants of these families?

Sue Davis
Venice, FL


Searching: ANKER, Valparaiso, Chile #general

Dick Plotz
 

Gerhard ANKER, b. 1907, and his wife Victoria lived in Valparaiso, Chile.
They had two sons, Roberto, a physician, born 1956, and Marcelo, born 1963.
I was last in touch with Gerhard more than 20 years ago. I am not sure,
because searches have to be done by locality, but the current online Chile
white pages appears to have no listings for any of these Ankers, and there
is no Dr. Anker in the yellow pages.

I would be grateful for any information about these cousins of my
father-in-law, or suggestions for how I might follow up on them.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: ANKER, Valparaiso, Chile #general

Dick Plotz
 

Gerhard ANKER, b. 1907, and his wife Victoria lived in Valparaiso, Chile.
They had two sons, Roberto, a physician, born 1956, and Marcelo, born 1963.
I was last in touch with Gerhard more than 20 years ago. I am not sure,
because searches have to be done by locality, but the current online Chile
white pages appears to have no listings for any of these Ankers, and there
is no Dr. Anker in the yellow pages.

I would be grateful for any information about these cousins of my
father-in-law, or suggestions for how I might follow up on them.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA


Jewish Cemetery for Lodz prior to 1892 #general

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

Does anyone know where Jews >from Lodz were buried prior to 1892? I've been
informed that the cemetery in Lodz was not established until that date.

I'm trying to locate the grave of my great grandfather, Isaac KYJAWSKI who
may or may not have been interred prior to 1892.

Naidia Woolf
rnwoolf@earthlink.net

Researching:

KYJAWSKI (KUJAWSKI),Lodz, Poland
DROZDIASZ (or variants), Karczew, Poland
SAFIRSTEIN (SAPERSTEIN), Karczew, Poland
ISAACS (family of SOLOMON), Poland, anywhere
HORN (family of Morris), Poland, anywhere


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Cemetery for Lodz prior to 1892 #general

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

Does anyone know where Jews >from Lodz were buried prior to 1892? I've been
informed that the cemetery in Lodz was not established until that date.

I'm trying to locate the grave of my great grandfather, Isaac KYJAWSKI who
may or may not have been interred prior to 1892.

Naidia Woolf
rnwoolf@earthlink.net

Researching:

KYJAWSKI (KUJAWSKI),Lodz, Poland
DROZDIASZ (or variants), Karczew, Poland
SAFIRSTEIN (SAPERSTEIN), Karczew, Poland
ISAACS (family of SOLOMON), Poland, anywhere
HORN (family of Morris), Poland, anywhere