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Re: The Yiddish work "roys" #general

Kirsten Gradel <kmgradel@...>
 

Your family name was probably a variant of ROSE. I do not know Slavic
languages and so can't tell you a possible Slavic origin. My closest
guess is Ross, German for horse. If you go by the pronunciation and a
Yiddish word, "roys" would be a Galitzian prnounciation of the German
'raus (properly heraus) which means (get) out!, scat, scram, outside,
expelled and so on.

Hope this helps

Michael Bernet, New York
Michael

Sorry, for once you are mistaken

Royz - in Yiddish: resh vav jod zayin - means rose, which makes ROSE an
obvious name to take for a family with such a name emigrating to USA. In
Poland the name would probably be spelled ROJZ - and Beider finds it in
Biala, Radzyn, Pulawy, Janow and Warsaw. Artificial names starting with
ROJZ- abound in Poland and they all derive >from the name of that flower.

Kirsten Gradel, Denmark


UK Friendly Societies #general

Rebeccadan <rebeccadan@...>
 

The Kalman reference to Jewish Friendly Societies is:
The Jewish friendly societies of London 1793-1993
J Hist Studies 33 1992-94.

Those interested in other Jewish communities of the
UK could consult:
Rainer Liedtke
Self-help in Manchester Jewry: the provincial independent tontine society
Manchester Region History Review 1992

or Zoe Josephs
The Friendly Societies
in Z Josephs (ed)
Birmingham Jewry Vol II More Aspects 1740-1930 (pub. 1984)

Those interested in friendly societies, which were significantly different
to landsmanshaften, could join the Friendly Societies Research Group which
can provide further information about specific societies and information
about sources. Their website is:
http://www.openuniversity.edu/socialsciences/sociology/socsubset/socinfopo
ps/socires_g.html

Regards
Rebecca Ferguson


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The Yiddish work "roys" #general

Kirsten Gradel <kmgradel@...>
 

Your family name was probably a variant of ROSE. I do not know Slavic
languages and so can't tell you a possible Slavic origin. My closest
guess is Ross, German for horse. If you go by the pronunciation and a
Yiddish word, "roys" would be a Galitzian prnounciation of the German
'raus (properly heraus) which means (get) out!, scat, scram, outside,
expelled and so on.

Hope this helps

Michael Bernet, New York
Michael

Sorry, for once you are mistaken

Royz - in Yiddish: resh vav jod zayin - means rose, which makes ROSE an
obvious name to take for a family with such a name emigrating to USA. In
Poland the name would probably be spelled ROJZ - and Beider finds it in
Biala, Radzyn, Pulawy, Janow and Warsaw. Artificial names starting with
ROJZ- abound in Poland and they all derive >from the name of that flower.

Kirsten Gradel, Denmark


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen UK Friendly Societies #general

Rebeccadan <rebeccadan@...>
 

The Kalman reference to Jewish Friendly Societies is:
The Jewish friendly societies of London 1793-1993
J Hist Studies 33 1992-94.

Those interested in other Jewish communities of the
UK could consult:
Rainer Liedtke
Self-help in Manchester Jewry: the provincial independent tontine society
Manchester Region History Review 1992

or Zoe Josephs
The Friendly Societies
in Z Josephs (ed)
Birmingham Jewry Vol II More Aspects 1740-1930 (pub. 1984)

Those interested in friendly societies, which were significantly different
to landsmanshaften, could join the Friendly Societies Research Group which
can provide further information about specific societies and information
about sources. Their website is:
http://www.openuniversity.edu/socialsciences/sociology/socsubset/socinfopo
ps/socires_g.html

Regards
Rebecca Ferguson


Re: Immigration to USA through Canada #general

Dolores Palomo <sphinx@...>
 

NARA holds these records on microfilm. What you want are the Canadian
border entries, known as the St. Alban's lists. St. Alban's is a town in
Vermont, but this list nonetheless includes all entires into the US from
Canada via Atlantic and Pacific ports and everything in between. You can
read about them here. You can obtain the microfilms through the Family
History Centers if you are not located near a National ARchives branch.

http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/immigrant/rg85.html#sal

Dolores Palomo (Seattle)
Researching SEIDE, GABRIEL LEVY, QUARTIERMEISTER, ROTHENBERG


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Immigration to USA through Canada #general

Dolores Palomo <sphinx@...>
 

NARA holds these records on microfilm. What you want are the Canadian
border entries, known as the St. Alban's lists. St. Alban's is a town in
Vermont, but this list nonetheless includes all entires into the US from
Canada via Atlantic and Pacific ports and everything in between. You can
read about them here. You can obtain the microfilms through the Family
History Centers if you are not located near a National ARchives branch.

http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/immigrant/rg85.html#sal

Dolores Palomo (Seattle)
Researching SEIDE, GABRIEL LEVY, QUARTIERMEISTER, ROTHENBERG


BOASBERG, need info #general

encore <encore@...>
 

Seeking relatives of Flora (nee Kirschbaum) Boasberg Holiner, deceased
July 1954, Omaha, Nebraska. Son is William Boasberg, daughter is Fanny
Boasberg. One other known relative is Sadye Boasberg possibly >from New
Orleans. Any assistance or connection would be deeply appreciated.

Neil Stein
St. Louis, Mo.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BOASBERG, need info #general

encore <encore@...>
 

Seeking relatives of Flora (nee Kirschbaum) Boasberg Holiner, deceased
July 1954, Omaha, Nebraska. Son is William Boasberg, daughter is Fanny
Boasberg. One other known relative is Sadye Boasberg possibly >from New
Orleans. Any assistance or connection would be deeply appreciated.

Neil Stein
St. Louis, Mo.


Re: Researching BENDETSON from "Fairstut ? #general

Barry Finkel <b19141@...>
 

RBendetson@aol.com wrote:

I have just learned that my father came >from an area in Grodno called
"Fairstut" (Phonetic) but I can't find this town anywhere. Any help will be
appreciated.
Due to various reasons I cannot post the information I have. Anyone
who wants this information can request if >from me privately.
Barry S. Finkel (bsfinkel@anl.gov)
Chicago. IL, USA


Re: Vasilykov #general

Lisa Dashman <ldashman@...>
 

Vasilishok (and variant spellings) was a shtetl in Lida uezd, Vilna-Grodno
gubernya, latitude 53o47', longitude 24o51'. My Krinsky relatives come
from there. More info on the town can be found at
http://members.nbci.com/newhoir/lida-site/was-area.htm


Best wishes,
Lisa Dashman
ldashman@bestweb.net

I am trying to find out if Vashilishok, >from which my Kopelman
relatives claim to hail >from might be Vasilykov...
possible to me that my family Yiddishized the name Vasilikov into
Vashilishok, which is found on no map.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Researching BENDETSON from "Fairstut ? #general

Barry Finkel <b19141@...>
 

RBendetson@aol.com wrote:

I have just learned that my father came >from an area in Grodno called
"Fairstut" (Phonetic) but I can't find this town anywhere. Any help will be
appreciated.
Due to various reasons I cannot post the information I have. Anyone
who wants this information can request if >from me privately.
Barry S. Finkel (bsfinkel@anl.gov)
Chicago. IL, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Vasilykov #general

Lisa Dashman <ldashman@...>
 

Vasilishok (and variant spellings) was a shtetl in Lida uezd, Vilna-Grodno
gubernya, latitude 53o47', longitude 24o51'. My Krinsky relatives come
from there. More info on the town can be found at
http://members.nbci.com/newhoir/lida-site/was-area.htm


Best wishes,
Lisa Dashman
ldashman@bestweb.net

I am trying to find out if Vashilishok, >from which my Kopelman
relatives claim to hail >from might be Vasilykov...
possible to me that my family Yiddishized the name Vasilikov into
Vashilishok, which is found on no map.


Sorry for the delay #usa

Rachel Unkefer <earlyamsig@...>
 

There has been a bit of a delay in approving messages and getting them to
the group the past couple of days because I've been sick in bed (nothing
serious) and haven't dragged myself to the computer on a regular basis. I
should be fine soon and I'll try to keep the messages posted as they come
in.

Thanks for your understanding

Moderator


Early American SIG #USA Sorry for the delay #usa

Rachel Unkefer <earlyamsig@...>
 

There has been a bit of a delay in approving messages and getting them to
the group the past couple of days because I've been sick in bed (nothing
serious) and haven't dragged myself to the computer on a regular basis. I
should be fine soon and I'll try to keep the messages posted as they come
in.

Thanks for your understanding

Moderator


HONIGMAN(N)/NY 1840 or 1850 #usa

Irene Newhouse <newhoir@...>
 

Depending on which census you believe, Abraham HONIGMAN(N) arrived in NY
from
Kempen, Posen, in 1840 or 1850. He was born in 1824. He married Helen
LEVISON in NY & they had Sarita, 1856 Henrietta, 1858, J. Leopold, 1860,
Laurence, 1862 and Isaiah, 1864.

Henrietta married Nathaniel BRANDON in 1885. They had Olda, 1886, Julian
1887, Blanche/Bianca, 1891, & Gwendolen 1894.

Olga married Samuel J. MUSTAIN in 1919.

Blanche married Eric Richard SINGER in 1913. They had Helen, who was an
infant in the 1920 census.

Gwendolen married John C. BUTNER Jr. in 1919. He was born in Savannah,
GA.

I'd like to make contact with descendants. Abraham's brother David was my
grandmother's grandfather.

Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI


re Jacob Webster #usa

luftman1@...
 

Per your request I visited NARA and looked up Jacob and Lena Webster in the
1870, 1880 and 1900 US censuses. Interesting facts discerned >from the
censuses.

Jacob arrived in the US at the age of 6 in 1846 (He was born in June,
1840). Lena arrived in 1853 at the age of 9.

The 1880 census shows Jacob to be a citizen. This could mean he naturalized,
or that his father naturalized before he turned 18. Prior to 1924, when a
man naturalized, his wife and all children under 18 became citizens.

The 1870 census shows them to have married in 1863 and to have 3 children;
Rachel age 6, Jenny age 4, and Myer age 2. The 1900 census shows Rachel
born Jan 1866, Jenny in October 1874 (!!!! she aged slowly) and doesn't show
Myer (he may have married and moved out.) Other children still at home in
1900 - some with spouses - were: Bernard (Nov 1872); Harry (April 1878);
Ethel (Jan 1881); Sidney (Sept 1882); and Leslie (March 1888).

One more fact of interest --- in each census it is shown they have a live-in
servant! (Smells of money.) Also their address in 1900 was 1453 Lexingtn
Avenue, Manhattan - an area of mansions.

If you send me by email a home address, I'll mail you a copy of the 1900
census page.

Al Luftman luftman1@aol.com Natick, MA


Early American SIG #USA HONIGMAN(N)/NY 1840 or 1850 #usa

Irene Newhouse <newhoir@...>
 

Depending on which census you believe, Abraham HONIGMAN(N) arrived in NY
from
Kempen, Posen, in 1840 or 1850. He was born in 1824. He married Helen
LEVISON in NY & they had Sarita, 1856 Henrietta, 1858, J. Leopold, 1860,
Laurence, 1862 and Isaiah, 1864.

Henrietta married Nathaniel BRANDON in 1885. They had Olda, 1886, Julian
1887, Blanche/Bianca, 1891, & Gwendolen 1894.

Olga married Samuel J. MUSTAIN in 1919.

Blanche married Eric Richard SINGER in 1913. They had Helen, who was an
infant in the 1920 census.

Gwendolen married John C. BUTNER Jr. in 1919. He was born in Savannah,
GA.

I'd like to make contact with descendants. Abraham's brother David was my
grandmother's grandfather.

Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI


Early American SIG #USA re Jacob Webster #usa

luftman1@...
 

Per your request I visited NARA and looked up Jacob and Lena Webster in the
1870, 1880 and 1900 US censuses. Interesting facts discerned >from the
censuses.

Jacob arrived in the US at the age of 6 in 1846 (He was born in June,
1840). Lena arrived in 1853 at the age of 9.

The 1880 census shows Jacob to be a citizen. This could mean he naturalized,
or that his father naturalized before he turned 18. Prior to 1924, when a
man naturalized, his wife and all children under 18 became citizens.

The 1870 census shows them to have married in 1863 and to have 3 children;
Rachel age 6, Jenny age 4, and Myer age 2. The 1900 census shows Rachel
born Jan 1866, Jenny in October 1874 (!!!! she aged slowly) and doesn't show
Myer (he may have married and moved out.) Other children still at home in
1900 - some with spouses - were: Bernard (Nov 1872); Harry (April 1878);
Ethel (Jan 1881); Sidney (Sept 1882); and Leslie (March 1888).

One more fact of interest --- in each census it is shown they have a live-in
servant! (Smells of money.) Also their address in 1900 was 1453 Lexingtn
Avenue, Manhattan - an area of mansions.

If you send me by email a home address, I'll mail you a copy of the 1900
census page.

Al Luftman luftman1@aol.com Natick, MA


JGS Oregon, January 17th Meeting #general

Ronald D. Doctor <rondoctor@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Oregon (JGSO) invites you to JGSO's
January 2001 meeting.

Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Time: 7:30 pm to 9:00 pm
Place: Mittleman Jewish Community Center (MJCC)
6651 SW Capitol Highway
Portland, Oregon

This meeting features a presentation on

Traveling To Belarus
A Personal Experience


presented by Sandra Shapiro

Sandra travelled to Belarus this past summer. She will discuss:

* Traveling around Belarus
* The current Belarus Jewish community
* Visiting a shtetl
* Historic sites
* Requirements for a Visa in Belarus

This event is *free* to JGSO members. Contribution of $2 at the door is
requested >from non-members. Contribution is credited to membership if you
join JGSO at the meeting. Light refreshments will be available.

This meeting kicks off our new Shmooze session. >from 7:30 to 8:00 pm,
browse through the resources that JGSO will have available and talk to
JGSO experts about genealogy problems you have encountered.

For more information or questions, call Abby Menashe, JGSO, 245-5196, or
email rondoctor@qwest.net

For more information about JGSO and its activities, visit the JGSO web site
at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~orjgs

To be placed on JGS of Oregon's e-mail distribution list, send an e-mail
message to rondoctor@qwest.net. Once you are on the list, you will receive
periodic messages concerning Jewish Genealogy. Your name and e-mail
address will not be distributed outside of JGS of Oregon.

The JGSO is a part of the Mittleman Jewish Community Center and is
affiliated with the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies (IAJGS).


JGS Palm Beach County - January 2001 Meeting #general

MNewman714@...
 

JGS Palm Beach County
Meeting: Wednesday, January 10, 2001
Time: 1:00 p.m.
Place: South County Civic Center
16700 Jog Road
Delray Beach, FL
Program:
Mr. Charles Reeves, Director of Archival Operations at the Southeast
Regional office of the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
in Atlanta. He will discuss various records held at the Southeast Region
of NARA; i.e., Passenger, Naturalization, Census, Alien Registration,
Military, etc.

SIG groups will meet at completion of program.

Guests are welcome. Fee: $5, which can be applied toward membership dues.

The 10th Annual Beginners' and Intermediate Genealogical Workshop will be
conducted by Alfred Silberfeld:
Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 1 - 4 p.m.
South County Civic Center - Delray Beach
Members: $20 which includes workbook
Nonmembers: $40 which includes workbook and membership
Nonmember Family (2 Persons) $50 which includes 1 workbook

Sylvia Nusinov - President
Natalie Hamburg - Program Chair