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Mount of Olives & a Jerusalem connection #belarus

judy davis <judy1213@...>
 

I want to take this opportunity to publically thank
yoni ben-ari <mrtfuzot@netvision.net.il>, He
contacted the General Chevra Kaddisha (burial Society)
in Jerusalem regarding my ggft. Yitzchak Chaim EPSTEIN
son of Eliezer >from the town of Sochivala who was
buried on Har Hazeitim (mount of Olives) in
the hebrew year 5676 (1917-18).

When we were in Jerusalem this December I was able to
arrange with the burial society to see the plot. Their
phone # is:02-5384144. You can call them >from the
states (011-972-2-538-4144) but the contact person is
not always there, so you may be told to call back,
several times.

The fellow who seems to be in charge speaks some
English, but it was helpful having my hebrew speaking
son make the arrangements to meet him and a security
guard at the parking lot just below the western wall.

There was no marker at the grave, due to official
vandelism when Jordan was in control, but thanks to
the computer data base the man >from the Chevra
Kaddisha found the site.

I find it amazing that they have records of 18 million
burials on the Mount of Olives.

There was no charge for help in finding the grave, but
we did make a contribution.

I just got information on other relatives who were
long time residents of Jerusalem.
If you have any ideas about how to find out more about
them and connections please let me know.

Their Israeli last name was MeTar, changed from
Miterstein. They were both opthamologists. They came
to Israel in about 1920 and died about 1980. They
lived on the top floor of a building on Ha Naviem
(street of the Prophets) a little way >from the
Mandelbaum gate. I don't think that they had any
children.

Thanks for any help,

Judy Lieberman Davis-Rosenthal
Kalamazoo, MI
616-342-4656

Researching: EPSTEIN ( Sochivala, Volkovysk, Grodno;
Moises Ville, Argentina;NY, NY), MEDNICK aka ABRAMOWITZ (Vilnius,
Lithuania; Brooklyn, NY), LIEBERMAN (Medzhibozh, Ukraine, NY, NY), NEWMAN
(Medzhibozh, Ukraine;NY, NY), ROSENTHAL (Lomza, Poland; Montreal,Canada), LANER, DAVIS (Brookline, MA), ROSENBLATT (Savok, Russia; Lynn, MA)


Re: No Russian Language Skills Needed #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

As you saw in yesterday's digest, Judy Floam has volunteered to make
copies of the Belarus related articles in the Jewish Encyclopedia.
Laura Kisber Benjaminson has volunteered to type them into MS Word
documents which our SIG webmaster can easily put on the SIG website. It
sure is great to see how well the discussion group worked and how fast
we have solved how to get the work done. Thanks to the others who
contacted me via private mail to offer assistance or suggestions. OCR
scanning was not suggested by me because the OCR software I tried had
great difficulty recognizing the old type fonts and type sizes used in
the 1904 time period. Some of the italicized print was so small the the
software could not recognize the characters. Sorry I didn't mention
this in by first message.

Dave

David Fox
fox@erols.com
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD

the "The Jewish Encyclopedia", first published in 1904 by Funk and
Wagnalls Company. This encyclopedia is written in English and there are
a number of articles in it that would be of interest to Belarus
researchers.


typing articles #belarus

Eileen Price <eileen.price@...>
 

I just sent a message to Judy and Gary Floam saying I would be wiling to
copy anything on Brest Litovsk. If that is already spoken for, I would do
another stetl.

Eileen Price
Denver, CO
eileen.price@worldnet.att.net


A Search Web site #general

Rlberliner@...
 

http://pixel.cs.vt.edu/library/search.html

This address was sent to me and there is a large amount of information
available there. I hope it will be of use to many of us Jewishgenners.

Sincerely,
Rachelle Leaf Berliner
Savannah GA U.S.A.
rlberliner@aol.com
Searching:
LEAF/LIEBERMAN/AIN/SHENKIN/LIFSCHITZ >from Bialystok & Zvistrich PO/Russia
to NY to Savannah)
BERLINER/SIDLER/STEIN(>from Ostrolenka to NY to Savannah)
ISLER/EICHLER/EHRLICH/JACOBS/GOLDSTEIN/PRASNISH/TAPAROV (>from PO /RUSSIA to
London toBaltimore)


Re: Job Occupation-Bottcher #general

Juergen Stockburger <Stockburger@...>
 

"Dale" == Dale and Rinnah <dburns60@neo.rr.com> writes:
> Hi, I have a
> Great-Grandfather, Jacob Hiob FRETHE , born in Lubeck,
> Mecklenberg, Germany who was a Bottcher. Can anyone tell me what
> a Bottcher is? Thank You, Rinnah Burns Akron, Ohio

A Bottcher is a craftsman who makes wooden tubs (a tubber?).

Juergen Stockburger, Freiburg, Germany

mailto:stockburger@physik.uni-freiburg.de


Belarus SIG #Belarus Mount of Olives & a Jerusalem connection #belarus

judy davis <judy1213@...>
 

I want to take this opportunity to publically thank
yoni ben-ari <mrtfuzot@netvision.net.il>, He
contacted the General Chevra Kaddisha (burial Society)
in Jerusalem regarding my ggft. Yitzchak Chaim EPSTEIN
son of Eliezer >from the town of Sochivala who was
buried on Har Hazeitim (mount of Olives) in
the hebrew year 5676 (1917-18).

When we were in Jerusalem this December I was able to
arrange with the burial society to see the plot. Their
phone # is:02-5384144. You can call them >from the
states (011-972-2-538-4144) but the contact person is
not always there, so you may be told to call back,
several times.

The fellow who seems to be in charge speaks some
English, but it was helpful having my hebrew speaking
son make the arrangements to meet him and a security
guard at the parking lot just below the western wall.

There was no marker at the grave, due to official
vandelism when Jordan was in control, but thanks to
the computer data base the man >from the Chevra
Kaddisha found the site.

I find it amazing that they have records of 18 million
burials on the Mount of Olives.

There was no charge for help in finding the grave, but
we did make a contribution.

I just got information on other relatives who were
long time residents of Jerusalem.
If you have any ideas about how to find out more about
them and connections please let me know.

Their Israeli last name was MeTar, changed from
Miterstein. They were both opthamologists. They came
to Israel in about 1920 and died about 1980. They
lived on the top floor of a building on Ha Naviem
(street of the Prophets) a little way >from the
Mandelbaum gate. I don't think that they had any
children.

Thanks for any help,

Judy Lieberman Davis-Rosenthal
Kalamazoo, MI
616-342-4656

Researching: EPSTEIN ( Sochivala, Volkovysk, Grodno;
Moises Ville, Argentina;NY, NY), MEDNICK aka ABRAMOWITZ (Vilnius,
Lithuania; Brooklyn, NY), LIEBERMAN (Medzhibozh, Ukraine, NY, NY), NEWMAN
(Medzhibozh, Ukraine;NY, NY), ROSENTHAL (Lomza, Poland; Montreal,Canada), LANER, DAVIS (Brookline, MA), ROSENBLATT (Savok, Russia; Lynn, MA)


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: No Russian Language Skills Needed #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

As you saw in yesterday's digest, Judy Floam has volunteered to make
copies of the Belarus related articles in the Jewish Encyclopedia.
Laura Kisber Benjaminson has volunteered to type them into MS Word
documents which our SIG webmaster can easily put on the SIG website. It
sure is great to see how well the discussion group worked and how fast
we have solved how to get the work done. Thanks to the others who
contacted me via private mail to offer assistance or suggestions. OCR
scanning was not suggested by me because the OCR software I tried had
great difficulty recognizing the old type fonts and type sizes used in
the 1904 time period. Some of the italicized print was so small the the
software could not recognize the characters. Sorry I didn't mention
this in by first message.

Dave

David Fox
fox@erols.com
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD

the "The Jewish Encyclopedia", first published in 1904 by Funk and
Wagnalls Company. This encyclopedia is written in English and there are
a number of articles in it that would be of interest to Belarus
researchers.


Belarus SIG #Belarus typing articles #belarus

Eileen Price <eileen.price@...>
 

I just sent a message to Judy and Gary Floam saying I would be wiling to
copy anything on Brest Litovsk. If that is already spoken for, I would do
another stetl.

Eileen Price
Denver, CO
eileen.price@worldnet.att.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen A Search Web site #general

Rlberliner@...
 

http://pixel.cs.vt.edu/library/search.html

This address was sent to me and there is a large amount of information
available there. I hope it will be of use to many of us Jewishgenners.

Sincerely,
Rachelle Leaf Berliner
Savannah GA U.S.A.
rlberliner@aol.com
Searching:
LEAF/LIEBERMAN/AIN/SHENKIN/LIFSCHITZ >from Bialystok & Zvistrich PO/Russia
to NY to Savannah)
BERLINER/SIDLER/STEIN(>from Ostrolenka to NY to Savannah)
ISLER/EICHLER/EHRLICH/JACOBS/GOLDSTEIN/PRASNISH/TAPAROV (>from PO /RUSSIA to
London toBaltimore)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Job Occupation-Bottcher #general

Juergen Stockburger <Stockburger@...>
 

"Dale" == Dale and Rinnah <dburns60@neo.rr.com> writes:
> Hi, I have a
> Great-Grandfather, Jacob Hiob FRETHE , born in Lubeck,
> Mecklenberg, Germany who was a Bottcher. Can anyone tell me what
> a Bottcher is? Thank You, Rinnah Burns Akron, Ohio

A Bottcher is a craftsman who makes wooden tubs (a tubber?).

Juergen Stockburger, Freiburg, Germany

mailto:stockburger@physik.uni-freiburg.de


Re: No Russian Language Skills Needed #belarus

Ruth Hyman <rhyman@...>
 

This message is not really clear to me. Who is going to pick the articles?
I would be willing to type one (especially given the message that followed
from people willing to send out copies) if someone chose the article
first.
Ruth Hyman
Rockville Centre, NY


Re: Unsolicited Surname Information Requests #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

In further discussion of "Unsolicited Surname Information Requests":

It would impossible for readers to guess the intentions, goals,
and missions of others. Allow me to explain, for the sake of
illustration and for the sake of my own tree.

My interest in the surnames that I list in my signature is as
follows:

KAZEZ-KAZES: I am interested in all of the Jewish Kazez families
in the world, with any spelling and with any country of origin.

TALMAN: I seek information on all Jewish Talmans >from Poland.
It appears all Jews >from Poland named Talman might be related.

ENGLANDER: Englander is an exceedingly common name among Jews
throughout eastern Europe. I am only interested in Englanders
who are very likely to be related to me.

JURKIEWICZ: For Jurkiewicz, I am still learning; I know little;
I am trying to learn.

STRAUSBERG: Strausberg is the married name >from one branch of my
tree. My interest is very limited indeed!

KIFER: For Kifer, I am in the learning stage.

CZAPNIK: Czapnik is the name--through marriage--for one branch
of my family tree.

OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN: I have tons of information on Oberman
and (its variants) in Ukraine. I want to learn more.

LISS: I have much research behind me on the Liss families in
Ukraine. I need to learn more.

SOBLE-SOBEL: Soble is the name--through marriage--of one very
large branch of my family tree.

STEIN: Stein, a very common name, is not central to my research.

AXMAN: Axman is a rare name, about which I know almost nothing.

FRESKO-FRESCO and ALHADEFF-ELHADEF: I am trying to learn whatever
I can about Fresko and Alhadeff families >from Turkey, Rhodes,
Aleppo, and other nearby areas.

As you can see >from the list above, when someone contacts me
regarding one of my names, I might be thrilled or not. I would
think, however that those of us who list common names might need
to be ready for frequent queries. Personally, I'd love to have
too much mail, rather then too little.

Potential cousins: my mail box is open, waiting for you to appear!!

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK
Ukraine: OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN, LISS, SOBLE-SOBEL, STEIN, AXMAN
Turkey: KAZEZ-KAZES, FRESKO-FRESCO, ALHADEFF-ELHADEF
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: No Russian Language Skills Needed #belarus

Ruth Hyman <rhyman@...>
 

This message is not really clear to me. Who is going to pick the articles?
I would be willing to type one (especially given the message that followed
from people willing to send out copies) if someone chose the article
first.
Ruth Hyman
Rockville Centre, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Unsolicited Surname Information Requests #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

In further discussion of "Unsolicited Surname Information Requests":

It would impossible for readers to guess the intentions, goals,
and missions of others. Allow me to explain, for the sake of
illustration and for the sake of my own tree.

My interest in the surnames that I list in my signature is as
follows:

KAZEZ-KAZES: I am interested in all of the Jewish Kazez families
in the world, with any spelling and with any country of origin.

TALMAN: I seek information on all Jewish Talmans >from Poland.
It appears all Jews >from Poland named Talman might be related.

ENGLANDER: Englander is an exceedingly common name among Jews
throughout eastern Europe. I am only interested in Englanders
who are very likely to be related to me.

JURKIEWICZ: For Jurkiewicz, I am still learning; I know little;
I am trying to learn.

STRAUSBERG: Strausberg is the married name >from one branch of my
tree. My interest is very limited indeed!

KIFER: For Kifer, I am in the learning stage.

CZAPNIK: Czapnik is the name--through marriage--for one branch
of my family tree.

OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN: I have tons of information on Oberman
and (its variants) in Ukraine. I want to learn more.

LISS: I have much research behind me on the Liss families in
Ukraine. I need to learn more.

SOBLE-SOBEL: Soble is the name--through marriage--of one very
large branch of my family tree.

STEIN: Stein, a very common name, is not central to my research.

AXMAN: Axman is a rare name, about which I know almost nothing.

FRESKO-FRESCO and ALHADEFF-ELHADEF: I am trying to learn whatever
I can about Fresko and Alhadeff families >from Turkey, Rhodes,
Aleppo, and other nearby areas.

As you can see >from the list above, when someone contacts me
regarding one of my names, I might be thrilled or not. I would
think, however that those of us who list common names might need
to be ready for frequent queries. Personally, I'd love to have
too much mail, rather then too little.

Potential cousins: my mail box is open, waiting for you to appear!!

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK
Ukraine: OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN, LISS, SOBLE-SOBEL, STEIN, AXMAN
Turkey: KAZEZ-KAZES, FRESKO-FRESCO, ALHADEFF-ELHADEF
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


Re: No Russian Language Skills Needed #belarus

Ofer <oferco@...>
 

Mr. Fox,
I do not have access to the library. But, if someone will xerox the pages
and fax them to me I will be able to scan them into a WORD file.

Ofer Cohen
Israel

----- Original Message -----
From: "David M. Fox" <fox@erols.com>
To: "Belarus SIG" <belarus@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 4:27 AM
Subject: No Russian Language Skills Needed


We have gained a great number of new members since I last post a message
about the "The Jewish Encyclopedia", first published in 1904 by Funk and
Wagnalls Company. This encyclopedia is written in English and there are
a number of articles in it that would be of interest to Belarus
researchers. There are articles on many of the major gubernia and uezd
towns. Because the encyclopedia is over 75 years old, there are no
copyright restrictions on republishing selected articles on the SIG
website. All it takes is going to a library or synagogue that has a set
of this old encyclopedia, xeroxing a few pages, typing them into a MS
Word or similar program document, and emailing the document to Edward
Rosenbaum our SIG webmaster who will find the appropriate place to put
the article on the website. These articles have historical information
as well as names of rabbis and other residents of the location.
Surrounding shtetls and agriculture colonies are also mentioned. Please
see <http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/Minsk%20-%20JE.htm> for the
article on Minsk to get an idea of the material available for other
towns in Belarus.

To avoid duplication of effort, please post a message to the discussion
group so we don't have two people doing the same work.


Dave
--
David M. Fox
mailto:fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD USA
Belarus SIG Coordinator
<http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus>


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: No Russian Language Skills Needed #belarus

Ofer <oferco@...>
 

Mr. Fox,
I do not have access to the library. But, if someone will xerox the pages
and fax them to me I will be able to scan them into a WORD file.

Ofer Cohen
Israel

----- Original Message -----
From: "David M. Fox" <fox@erols.com>
To: "Belarus SIG" <belarus@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 4:27 AM
Subject: No Russian Language Skills Needed


We have gained a great number of new members since I last post a message
about the "The Jewish Encyclopedia", first published in 1904 by Funk and
Wagnalls Company. This encyclopedia is written in English and there are
a number of articles in it that would be of interest to Belarus
researchers. There are articles on many of the major gubernia and uezd
towns. Because the encyclopedia is over 75 years old, there are no
copyright restrictions on republishing selected articles on the SIG
website. All it takes is going to a library or synagogue that has a set
of this old encyclopedia, xeroxing a few pages, typing them into a MS
Word or similar program document, and emailing the document to Edward
Rosenbaum our SIG webmaster who will find the appropriate place to put
the article on the website. These articles have historical information
as well as names of rabbis and other residents of the location.
Surrounding shtetls and agriculture colonies are also mentioned. Please
see <http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/Minsk%20-%20JE.htm> for the
article on Minsk to get an idea of the material available for other
towns in Belarus.

To avoid duplication of effort, please post a message to the discussion
group so we don't have two people doing the same work.


Dave
--
David M. Fox
mailto:fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD USA
Belarus SIG Coordinator
<http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus>


Re: Job Occupation-Bottcher #general

Kirsten Gradel <kmgradel@...>
 

Can anyone tell me what a Bottcher is?
It's probably an o with an umlaut, and in that case it means a cooper.

Kirsten Gradel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Job Occupation-Bottcher #general

Kirsten Gradel <kmgradel@...>
 

Can anyone tell me what a Bottcher is?
It's probably an o with an umlaut, and in that case it means a cooper.

Kirsten Gradel


Gomel #belarus

Adarelanab@...
 

I have the article on Gomel >from the Jewish encyclopedia and will be happy to
send it.
Adar Belinkoff
Claremont, CA
Researching: BELINKOFF >from Gomel, Israel, Youngstown and Los Angeles;
CHARNAK >from Gomel, Ukraine, Youngstown and Philadelphia;
MAGIDSON >from Gomel, Youngstown and New York;
KLEINERT or Klein >from Gomel(?)
PINTCHUK >from Tomaszov Mazieowecki, Youngstown & Cleveland;
NUMBERG >from Lomza and Chicago;
GOLDER (GOLDFARB) >from Ostrolenka and Chicago.


Re: Josefski #general

David Lewin <davidlewin@...>
 

At 02:27 12/01/01, you wrote:

Can anyone please tell me what kind of name is Josefski? This family
comes out of Prussia in the middle 1800's.
Son of Joseph

very likely >from East Prussia because of the ski ending
in my 1812 Jews' Naturalisation lists database (on Jewishgen) the name does
not appear, nor is it in the 1834/1835 Posen lists (yet to be published there)

David Lewin
London