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Holocaust Assets #general

Jerome Silverbush <jsilverbus@...>
 

I'm sure this has been discussed many times, but perhaps my experience
with the Austrian Holocaust Asset Archives might help some researchers.
The main web page is: http://www.avotaynu.com/HolocaustList/ >from this
page you have links to pages with lists of names for whom records exist.
You send an initial letter to the archives in Vienna (in English) saying
you are interested in so and so, born xx-xx-xx. It took them a month to
reply telling me I should send a money order for 59 Austrian Shillings
(about $5 US dollars) for the report. I got the money order >from [Mod.
Note -- Commercial Reference Deleted] You then send the money order and
the form to Vienna. I sent separately for two records. One took
approximately 3 months to receive and the other, 5 months. The records
are a disappointment, since the only genealogical information they
contain is the name of the person's spouse.

Jerry Silverbush
Durham, NC

MODERATOR NOTE: For further information about the International Money
Order service, please contact Jerry privately.


Location of Meretz #general

hennynow
 

Dear Friends at JewishGen:

My brother-in-law Joseph ABELOW says that his father's ancestors came
from "Meretz." He has no idea where that is and I cannot locate it
either. Has anyone among you heard of such a place? All I can tell you
is that they were Ashkenazim and probably lived in Greater Imperial
Russian territory.

I shall welcome any e-mail reply.

Henny
<hennynow@pacbell.net>


Ike LONDON #general

egrdn@...
 

Thanks to an entry on Ancestry.com and the gentle prodding of a friend
from this list, I recently found the microfilmed Declaration of Intention
and Petition for Naturalization for my relative Ike London. Ike was
probably my grandmother's brother and was appointed guardian for my father
when the latter's parents died. I have some questions about the
naturalization paperwork that perhaps members of this list can suggest
answers for:

1. Ike stated on the Declaration that he was born in Ripin, Russia on
March 16, 1872.

2. Ike stated on the Petition that he was born in Plotzk, Russia on March
16, 1873.

I realize that the variation in dates is not important. My question is
more concerned with the stated birthplaces. I know that Ripin and Plotzk
are in the same general region, but I do not know the relative size of the
towns or villages. Was one of them much larger than the other, so that a
person might refer to the village if he was being exact and to the town if
he wanted to refer to a general area?

My next question has to do with Ike's name. On the Declaration he stated
that he emigrated >from Rotterdam on the ship Holland. On the Petition he
said that he arrived in NY on November 18, 1895 >from Rotterdam, Holland
and the ship's name was Rotterdam. After reading this, I enthusiastically
turned to microfilmed passenger lists, thinking it would be easy to find
Ike on the list. He must have arrived on the Holland-America line's
Rotterdam on Nov. 18, 1895.....

The closest ship's name I found was the Holland America ship Amsterdam,
which arrived in NY on November 20, 1895. Since I felt this was probably
the one Ike was on, I read the passenger list three times, but there was
no Ike London on it. There was, however, a young man named Israel
Lazowsky. Israel was 19 years old, not 22 or 23 as Ike would have been
according to the birthdates on his naturalization information, but the age
discrepancy is not overwhelming. I would like to know if list members
feel that Israel Lazowsky could have become Ike London? Note that Ike's
relative Kalman London stated on a census that he was >from Poland, so a
Polish name ending would not be too surprising.

One last question concerns Ike's wife, Pauline (Shink) London. Ike's final
citizenship papers were delayed because his "wife is a German", according
to the Petition for Naturalization. (This was in 1918, and we were at war
with Germany.) Did the U.S. treat German Jews and non-Jews the same during
the war, or was the petition only delayed and not denied because she was
Jewish?

Thanks for any light you can throw on the above

Eleanor Gordon
egrdn@aol.com


Re: Zangvil again! #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Actually, "zanjevil" (zan-jeh-veel) is Persian/Farsi
for "ginger."
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
dardasht@barak-online.net

From: "Beba Marantz" <beba.marantz@span.ch>
How interesting, thank you: ginger in French gingembre comes >from the
latin gingiberi, >from the greek ziggiberis.

Martha Lev-Zion < martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il > wrote:
Zangvil is *Hebrew* for ginger, Michael.
I had always thought Zangvil was a Yiddish or old German name for a
spice (ginger? nutmeg?) but can't find it in my dictionaries. Does
anyone know what spice it is?
Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Holocaust Assets #general

Jerome Silverbush <jsilverbus@...>
 

I'm sure this has been discussed many times, but perhaps my experience
with the Austrian Holocaust Asset Archives might help some researchers.
The main web page is: http://www.avotaynu.com/HolocaustList/ >from this
page you have links to pages with lists of names for whom records exist.
You send an initial letter to the archives in Vienna (in English) saying
you are interested in so and so, born xx-xx-xx. It took them a month to
reply telling me I should send a money order for 59 Austrian Shillings
(about $5 US dollars) for the report. I got the money order >from [Mod.
Note -- Commercial Reference Deleted] You then send the money order and
the form to Vienna. I sent separately for two records. One took
approximately 3 months to receive and the other, 5 months. The records
are a disappointment, since the only genealogical information they
contain is the name of the person's spouse.

Jerry Silverbush
Durham, NC

MODERATOR NOTE: For further information about the International Money
Order service, please contact Jerry privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Location of Meretz #general

hennynow
 

Dear Friends at JewishGen:

My brother-in-law Joseph ABELOW says that his father's ancestors came
from "Meretz." He has no idea where that is and I cannot locate it
either. Has anyone among you heard of such a place? All I can tell you
is that they were Ashkenazim and probably lived in Greater Imperial
Russian territory.

I shall welcome any e-mail reply.

Henny
<hennynow@pacbell.net>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ike LONDON #general

egrdn@...
 

Thanks to an entry on Ancestry.com and the gentle prodding of a friend
from this list, I recently found the microfilmed Declaration of Intention
and Petition for Naturalization for my relative Ike London. Ike was
probably my grandmother's brother and was appointed guardian for my father
when the latter's parents died. I have some questions about the
naturalization paperwork that perhaps members of this list can suggest
answers for:

1. Ike stated on the Declaration that he was born in Ripin, Russia on
March 16, 1872.

2. Ike stated on the Petition that he was born in Plotzk, Russia on March
16, 1873.

I realize that the variation in dates is not important. My question is
more concerned with the stated birthplaces. I know that Ripin and Plotzk
are in the same general region, but I do not know the relative size of the
towns or villages. Was one of them much larger than the other, so that a
person might refer to the village if he was being exact and to the town if
he wanted to refer to a general area?

My next question has to do with Ike's name. On the Declaration he stated
that he emigrated >from Rotterdam on the ship Holland. On the Petition he
said that he arrived in NY on November 18, 1895 >from Rotterdam, Holland
and the ship's name was Rotterdam. After reading this, I enthusiastically
turned to microfilmed passenger lists, thinking it would be easy to find
Ike on the list. He must have arrived on the Holland-America line's
Rotterdam on Nov. 18, 1895.....

The closest ship's name I found was the Holland America ship Amsterdam,
which arrived in NY on November 20, 1895. Since I felt this was probably
the one Ike was on, I read the passenger list three times, but there was
no Ike London on it. There was, however, a young man named Israel
Lazowsky. Israel was 19 years old, not 22 or 23 as Ike would have been
according to the birthdates on his naturalization information, but the age
discrepancy is not overwhelming. I would like to know if list members
feel that Israel Lazowsky could have become Ike London? Note that Ike's
relative Kalman London stated on a census that he was >from Poland, so a
Polish name ending would not be too surprising.

One last question concerns Ike's wife, Pauline (Shink) London. Ike's final
citizenship papers were delayed because his "wife is a German", according
to the Petition for Naturalization. (This was in 1918, and we were at war
with Germany.) Did the U.S. treat German Jews and non-Jews the same during
the war, or was the petition only delayed and not denied because she was
Jewish?

Thanks for any light you can throw on the above

Eleanor Gordon
egrdn@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Zangvil again! #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Actually, "zanjevil" (zan-jeh-veel) is Persian/Farsi
for "ginger."
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
dardasht@barak-online.net

From: "Beba Marantz" <beba.marantz@span.ch>
How interesting, thank you: ginger in French gingembre comes >from the
latin gingiberi, >from the greek ziggiberis.

Martha Lev-Zion < martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il > wrote:
Zangvil is *Hebrew* for ginger, Michael.
I had always thought Zangvil was a Yiddish or old German name for a
spice (ginger? nutmeg?) but can't find it in my dictionaries. Does
anyone know what spice it is?
Michael Bernet, New York


Sirkof/Szterkocz? #hungary

David and BethLong <dnblong@...>
 

Hi Norman and Jean,

I couldn't find your town name, so I looked at the 1910 map of Zemplen and
found a Sztercocz (this was the closest match). The 1869 census of Zemplen
county is now available on LDS microfilm (for this town, film no. 0719794).
If you don't find a better lead, you might try looking at it.

I did find one reference to an actual Sirkov on the internet. This is a
link to a person who is researching ancestors >from there. However, he says
it is in Bohemia, while Zemplen county would be Slovakia.

Beth Long
dnblong@cts.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Norman/Jean Fuhrer [SMTP:nfuhrer@iu.net]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 5:38 PM
To: Hungarian SIG
Subject: Re: Sirkof?/Zemplen possibly Cerhov (v Cergov)?

We found, months ago, a listing on the H-sig page - Jewish Soldiers in the
1848 War as follows:

FUHRER, Abraham, Austrian Army
Place of Birth: Sirkof? - County Zemplen
Date of Birth: 1830

While searching the Shtetlseeker - using the -- DM-- the town of Cerhov,
Slovakia headed the list (variant name, Cergov)--coordinates 4828 2139.


INQUIRY: Do you know someone born in Munkacs, Hungary- (Mukachevo,Ukraine) of age 100 or older still alive? #hungary

Dennis Baer <dbaer@...>
 

INQUIRY:

Hello

Do you know someone born in Munkacs, Hungary (now Mukachevo) still alive at
an age 100 or older?

If so, please contact me privately at dbaer@hoflink.com

Thank you.

Dennis


Hungary SIG #Hungary Sirkof/Szterkocz? #hungary

David and BethLong <dnblong@...>
 

Hi Norman and Jean,

I couldn't find your town name, so I looked at the 1910 map of Zemplen and
found a Sztercocz (this was the closest match). The 1869 census of Zemplen
county is now available on LDS microfilm (for this town, film no. 0719794).
If you don't find a better lead, you might try looking at it.

I did find one reference to an actual Sirkov on the internet. This is a
link to a person who is researching ancestors >from there. However, he says
it is in Bohemia, while Zemplen county would be Slovakia.

Beth Long
dnblong@cts.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Norman/Jean Fuhrer [SMTP:nfuhrer@iu.net]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 5:38 PM
To: Hungarian SIG
Subject: Re: Sirkof?/Zemplen possibly Cerhov (v Cergov)?

We found, months ago, a listing on the H-sig page - Jewish Soldiers in the
1848 War as follows:

FUHRER, Abraham, Austrian Army
Place of Birth: Sirkof? - County Zemplen
Date of Birth: 1830

While searching the Shtetlseeker - using the -- DM-- the town of Cerhov,
Slovakia headed the list (variant name, Cergov)--coordinates 4828 2139.


Hungary SIG #Hungary INQUIRY: Do you know someone born in Munkacs, Hungary- (Mukachevo,Ukraine) of age 100 or older still alive? #hungary

Dennis Baer <dbaer@...>
 

INQUIRY:

Hello

Do you know someone born in Munkacs, Hungary (now Mukachevo) still alive at
an age 100 or older?

If so, please contact me privately at dbaer@hoflink.com

Thank you.

Dennis


Re: looking for relatives RUBENS CAHN in Johannesburg #southafrica

Brest Family <angi@...>
 

Shmuel Rubens

I have answered you to your private e.mail address.

Anne LAPEDUS BREST. ( Ex Dublin, Ireland). Sandton, South Africa..
RESEARCHING: LAPEDUS, Vieksniai, Lithuania. LAPIDUS (all spellings) all
countries, MARCUS, Ackmene, Lithuania, KLAPMAN, Ackmene, Lithuania, KARLIN
Zagera, Lithuania, BREST, Bauska, Latvia. , MIRRELSON , Kourland, Latvia.
ORKIN Zagera, Lithuania. ORKIN Joniskis (Yaneshik) Lithuania. KAHN
Vieksniai , Lithuania. SHILLMAN, Odessa, Russia. NOVGOROD, Yaneshik
(Joniskis), Lithuania.


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: looking for relatives RUBENS CAHN in Johannesburg #southafrica

Brest Family <angi@...>
 

Shmuel Rubens

I have answered you to your private e.mail address.

Anne LAPEDUS BREST. ( Ex Dublin, Ireland). Sandton, South Africa..
RESEARCHING: LAPEDUS, Vieksniai, Lithuania. LAPIDUS (all spellings) all
countries, MARCUS, Ackmene, Lithuania, KLAPMAN, Ackmene, Lithuania, KARLIN
Zagera, Lithuania, BREST, Bauska, Latvia. , MIRRELSON , Kourland, Latvia.
ORKIN Zagera, Lithuania. ORKIN Joniskis (Yaneshik) Lithuania. KAHN
Vieksniai , Lithuania. SHILLMAN, Odessa, Russia. NOVGOROD, Yaneshik
(Joniskis), Lithuania.


Louise & Alfred Goldschmidt <aviva@...>
 

My cousin Eva nee Rosenstrauch is marraied to Michael Cahn who is a
pharmacist and has a Chemist store in Jo'berg. I dont know very much about
his paraents but I could find out if this is the same Cahn. Michael would
be about 60 now.
Louise Goldschmidt


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Cahn #southafrica

Louise & Alfred Goldschmidt <aviva@...>
 

My cousin Eva nee Rosenstrauch is marraied to Michael Cahn who is a
pharmacist and has a Chemist store in Jo'berg. I dont know very much about
his paraents but I could find out if this is the same Cahn. Michael would
be about 60 now.
Louise Goldschmidt


Phila., Pa. Cemeteries #general

Njturtle55@...
 

I don't know about a list of names of those buried in Phila. Jewish
cemeteries, but at this address you can at least get the addresses
of the cemeteries and go >from there.
That's how I did it.

http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/

Steve Pickholtz
Tabernacle, NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Phila., Pa. Cemeteries #general

Njturtle55@...
 

I don't know about a list of names of those buried in Phila. Jewish
cemeteries, but at this address you can at least get the addresses
of the cemeteries and go >from there.
That's how I did it.

http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/

Steve Pickholtz
Tabernacle, NJ


Posting messages when using AOL 6.0 #general

Dick Plotz
 

Dan Kazez wrote:

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Posting messages when using AOL 6.0 #general

Dick Plotz
 

Dan Kazez wrote:

The writer of this message has asked me to pass it on to the
group. (She has AOL 6.0, and is unable to post messages herself.)
While users of AOL 6.0 are encouraged to keep an earlier version of the AOL
software to use for submitting messages to JewishGen lists, since AOL 6.0
does not support the plain text format required in posts, at least two
options are available for users of AOL 6.0 who wish to post directly to
JewishGen.

1. Sign on to AOL and launch a Web browser other than the built-in AOL
browser, such as Netscape or Internet Explorer. (This will not work with
AOL's own browser.) Go to the AOL website, www.aol.com, and sign in with
your screen name and password. Click on Mail. You will then be able to
submit messages using AOL's "AOL Anywhere" service, which still uses the
plain text format.

2. For the JewishGen Discussion Group only, you can submit messages through
the Usenet newsgroup soc.genealogy.jewish, which on AOL generally carries the
same content as the JewishGen Discussion Group e-mail list. To do this, go
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