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Re: "Atlas of Modern Jewish History" #ukraine

mgglass <mgglass@...>
 

Dear Florence:

The Atlas of Modern Jewish History is available on the website:
www.abebooks.com.

Regards,

Marilyn Platnick Glass
Toronto, Ontario



haflo wrote:

My JGS group is interested in purchasing a copy of Evytar Friesel's "Atlas
of Modern Jewish History". I understand that the book is presently out of
print. Would anyone reading this happen to know where there might be copy
of this atlas for sale?
Florence Elman
<haflo@cadvision.com>
JGS/ S. Alberta (Pres.)


Out-of-print atlas #ukraine

haflo <haflo@...>
 

Dear U SIG Members,

I requested help in locating a copy of the "Atlas of Modern Jewish History"
yesterday. This is a particularly grateful thank-you to all of you who
wrote to let me know where to search, & what was available on the Internet.
In less than a few hours, I managed to call Australia & order their very
last copy of the book! (My preference to putting my credit card number on
the Web. <g> ) It should arrive in a couple of weeks.

We have a wonderful group of people in our SIG! Your answers were speedy &
very helpful.
Thank you very much for your assistance,

Florence Elman
<haflo@cadvision.com>


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: "Atlas of Modern Jewish History" #ukraine

mgglass <mgglass@...>
 

Dear Florence:

The Atlas of Modern Jewish History is available on the website:
www.abebooks.com.

Regards,

Marilyn Platnick Glass
Toronto, Ontario



haflo wrote:

My JGS group is interested in purchasing a copy of Evytar Friesel's "Atlas
of Modern Jewish History". I understand that the book is presently out of
print. Would anyone reading this happen to know where there might be copy
of this atlas for sale?
Florence Elman
<haflo@cadvision.com>
JGS/ S. Alberta (Pres.)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Out-of-print atlas #ukraine

haflo <haflo@...>
 

Dear U SIG Members,

I requested help in locating a copy of the "Atlas of Modern Jewish History"
yesterday. This is a particularly grateful thank-you to all of you who
wrote to let me know where to search, & what was available on the Internet.
In less than a few hours, I managed to call Australia & order their very
last copy of the book! (My preference to putting my credit card number on
the Web. <g> ) It should arrive in a couple of weeks.

We have a wonderful group of people in our SIG! Your answers were speedy &
very helpful.
Thank you very much for your assistance,

Florence Elman
<haflo@cadvision.com>


Re: "Atlas of Modern Jewish History" #ukraine

Alan R Rosenfield <arosen@...>
 

You might try <www.bestbookbuys.com> which is a consortium of book stores.
I had success >from them obtaining an out of print book.


Al Rosenfield
e-mail <arosen@gcfn.org>


On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, haflo wrote:

My JGS group is interested in purchasing a copy of Evytar Friesel's "Atlas
of Modern Jewish History". I understand that the book is presently out of
print. Would anyone reading this happen to know where there might be copy
of this atlas for sale?


Moderator Note: Phone number and address omitted per JewishGen policy


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: "Atlas of Modern Jewish History" #ukraine

Alan R Rosenfield <arosen@...>
 

You might try <www.bestbookbuys.com> which is a consortium of book stores.
I had success >from them obtaining an out of print book.


Al Rosenfield
e-mail <arosen@gcfn.org>


On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, haflo wrote:

My JGS group is interested in purchasing a copy of Evytar Friesel's "Atlas
of Modern Jewish History". I understand that the book is presently out of
print. Would anyone reading this happen to know where there might be copy
of this atlas for sale?


Moderator Note: Phone number and address omitted per JewishGen policy


Look at my Names + Ruzhin town #ukraine

GORDON <DMGORDON@...>
 

Shalom to all. I have just joined this discussion group - although I have
been active on Jewishgen.

I am looking for several Ukrainian clans, of which I am a part: PARANSKY &
HECHT (both >from Ruzhin); KUTSOVSKY/KATZOWSKY >from Peryaslav;
SACHAROV/SACHAROW >from Poltava; and ROSENWASSER and ROSENBERG & TOLCHINSKY
(towns unknown; but Tolchinsky is not >from Tulchin).

If any of you have roots in Ruzhin, please contact me - as I have a
translated testimony (>from the Yiddish) of the Nazi savagery in the town -
which any Ruzhiner may want to have in their research.

All the best
David Gordon
Millburn, NJ

Researching:
GRODINSKY/GORDON/GRODY >from Grodno Gubernia
KAPLINSKY >from Grodno Gubernia
PARANSKY and HECHT >from Ruzhin, Volhynia Gubernia
KUTSOVSKY/KATZOWSKY >from Peryaslav
SACHAROV/SACHAROW >from Poltava
COOPER/COOPPER >from Poland
GOLDENBERG/GOLDBERG >from Iasi, Romania
GELTZER >from Iasi Romania
ROSENWASSER and ROSENBERG >from Ukraine
TOLCHINSKY >from Poland and Ukraine
LAYANI/CHICHE/PARTOUCHE/BEN-TATA/CHICHPORTICHE/AKOUN/SELLEM from
Algeria



Moderator Note: Please respond privately in regard to the Testimony >from Ruzhin


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Look at my Names + Ruzhin town #ukraine

GORDON <DMGORDON@...>
 

Shalom to all. I have just joined this discussion group - although I have
been active on Jewishgen.

I am looking for several Ukrainian clans, of which I am a part: PARANSKY &
HECHT (both >from Ruzhin); KUTSOVSKY/KATZOWSKY >from Peryaslav;
SACHAROV/SACHAROW >from Poltava; and ROSENWASSER and ROSENBERG & TOLCHINSKY
(towns unknown; but Tolchinsky is not >from Tulchin).

If any of you have roots in Ruzhin, please contact me - as I have a
translated testimony (>from the Yiddish) of the Nazi savagery in the town -
which any Ruzhiner may want to have in their research.

All the best
David Gordon
Millburn, NJ

Researching:
GRODINSKY/GORDON/GRODY >from Grodno Gubernia
KAPLINSKY >from Grodno Gubernia
PARANSKY and HECHT >from Ruzhin, Volhynia Gubernia
KUTSOVSKY/KATZOWSKY >from Peryaslav
SACHAROV/SACHAROW >from Poltava
COOPER/COOPPER >from Poland
GOLDENBERG/GOLDBERG >from Iasi, Romania
GELTZER >from Iasi Romania
ROSENWASSER and ROSENBERG >from Ukraine
TOLCHINSKY >from Poland and Ukraine
LAYANI/CHICHE/PARTOUCHE/BEN-TATA/CHICHPORTICHE/AKOUN/SELLEM from
Algeria



Moderator Note: Please respond privately in regard to the Testimony >from Ruzhin


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Hebrew translation needed mandate Israel death certificates- Baal Shem Tov #ukraine

SRivkin742@...
 

here's my 2x great grandparents that were said to descend >from the Baal Shem
Tov
again
this time instead of the tombstones I have death certificates - I asked the
Ministry of the Interior if they could release to me the information on the
orginal death certificates >from British Mandate era Israel 1924-5

I am told the orginals are in English - the Ministry still will not supply
copies of the
orginals - they still insist on having the info extracted and translated
into Hebrew
and sent to you - hopefully the translater tried to do a good job - it pains
me that I
can't get orginal copies. This seems so silly translating to Hebrew sending
it to me
and then I need to get it translated back to English. Something on the orginal
certificate might make sense to me that does not to them. Anyway please
anyone willing to help me take your time -- I have uploaded the Hebrew
information the Ministry sent me- someone please help me translate it -the URL
addresses below are posted on my web directory


I asked the ministry to supply additional details >from the orginal
certificates
if possible - name of parents - cause of death - residence etc etc
to help your translation the subjects are:
Moshe DARDIK [nickname Zedie] 1842-1925 and his wife Pessie FINKELPEREL
1844-1924 below are the web address where the hebrew certificates can be
veiwed
hopefully they will contain new information - I can see these one do at least
have
the cause of death

http://members.aol.com/dardik/moshe.jpg

http://members.aol.com/dardik/pessie.jpg

Many Thanks,Steve Rivkin


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Hebrew translation needed mandate Israel death certificates- Baal Shem Tov #ukraine

SRivkin742@...
 

here's my 2x great grandparents that were said to descend >from the Baal Shem
Tov
again
this time instead of the tombstones I have death certificates - I asked the
Ministry of the Interior if they could release to me the information on the
orginal death certificates >from British Mandate era Israel 1924-5

I am told the orginals are in English - the Ministry still will not supply
copies of the
orginals - they still insist on having the info extracted and translated
into Hebrew
and sent to you - hopefully the translater tried to do a good job - it pains
me that I
can't get orginal copies. This seems so silly translating to Hebrew sending
it to me
and then I need to get it translated back to English. Something on the orginal
certificate might make sense to me that does not to them. Anyway please
anyone willing to help me take your time -- I have uploaded the Hebrew
information the Ministry sent me- someone please help me translate it -the URL
addresses below are posted on my web directory


I asked the ministry to supply additional details >from the orginal
certificates
if possible - name of parents - cause of death - residence etc etc
to help your translation the subjects are:
Moshe DARDIK [nickname Zedie] 1842-1925 and his wife Pessie FINKELPEREL
1844-1924 below are the web address where the hebrew certificates can be
veiwed
hopefully they will contain new information - I can see these one do at least
have
the cause of death

http://members.aol.com/dardik/moshe.jpg

http://members.aol.com/dardik/pessie.jpg

Many Thanks,Steve Rivkin


Missing NYC marriage certificate #ukraine

Eve Greenfield <eve_rachel@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

I recently received a copy of my grandmother's birth
certificate >from Winnipeg, Canada, and much to my
surprise (and delight), it listed both of her parents'
birthplaces. (She was born in 1914; in general with
Canadian birth certificates, the older ones list much
more information about the parents, since it's no
longer politically correct to have people list things
like racial origin on official documents). Her father,
David MONDSHEIN, lists his place of birth as Husiatyn,
Poland (now Gusyatin, Ukraine), and her mother, Jennie
TARNAKOW, has Minsk, Belarus listed as place of birth.

Here's the mysterious part: there is an addendum
attached to the birth certificate, signed by David,
basically stating that he was present at the time of
the birth (the birth wasn't registered until 1930,
more than 15 years later, which is pretty unusual for
Canada, as far as I know!) and has personal knowledge
of all the facts declared on the birth certificate.
One of the facts listed is the date and place of the
parents' marriage, which is New York, Sept. 26, 1911.
I requested a search for all five boroughs for the
year 1911, and got a certificate of no record, along
with a microfilm print of a marriage certificate for
some guy named Aloys Monschein >from Hungary who was
married by a Catholic priest in July 1911, so no
relation.
Any ideas how there could be no record of the
marriage? Maybe it wasn't registered with the civil
authorities, in which case how could I find a record
of it? (The fact that they waited more than 15 years
to register my grandmother's birth lends credence to
this idea.) Maybe they got married elsewhere in New
York State, in which case where could I begin to look
for the record? The date listed is pretty specific,
so is there any point in requesting a search for the
surrounding years? Maybe there is a secondary record
of the marriage somewhere, and if so, where might it
be? In Canadian immigration records?
If it's any help, my grandmother says that her mother,
then already a widow in her early 30's, was living in
New York, when David (who was living in Canada) came
to visit some relatives, met her, swept her off her
feet, married her, and took her back to Winnipeg with
him, where my grandmother was born. Any inspirations
on where to dig further are very welcome.
Eve Greenfield, Chicago, Illinois

Moderator's Note: Phone numbers have been omitted per JewishGen policy


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Missing NYC marriage certificate #ukraine

Eve Greenfield <eve_rachel@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

I recently received a copy of my grandmother's birth
certificate >from Winnipeg, Canada, and much to my
surprise (and delight), it listed both of her parents'
birthplaces. (She was born in 1914; in general with
Canadian birth certificates, the older ones list much
more information about the parents, since it's no
longer politically correct to have people list things
like racial origin on official documents). Her father,
David MONDSHEIN, lists his place of birth as Husiatyn,
Poland (now Gusyatin, Ukraine), and her mother, Jennie
TARNAKOW, has Minsk, Belarus listed as place of birth.

Here's the mysterious part: there is an addendum
attached to the birth certificate, signed by David,
basically stating that he was present at the time of
the birth (the birth wasn't registered until 1930,
more than 15 years later, which is pretty unusual for
Canada, as far as I know!) and has personal knowledge
of all the facts declared on the birth certificate.
One of the facts listed is the date and place of the
parents' marriage, which is New York, Sept. 26, 1911.
I requested a search for all five boroughs for the
year 1911, and got a certificate of no record, along
with a microfilm print of a marriage certificate for
some guy named Aloys Monschein >from Hungary who was
married by a Catholic priest in July 1911, so no
relation.
Any ideas how there could be no record of the
marriage? Maybe it wasn't registered with the civil
authorities, in which case how could I find a record
of it? (The fact that they waited more than 15 years
to register my grandmother's birth lends credence to
this idea.) Maybe they got married elsewhere in New
York State, in which case where could I begin to look
for the record? The date listed is pretty specific,
so is there any point in requesting a search for the
surrounding years? Maybe there is a secondary record
of the marriage somewhere, and if so, where might it
be? In Canadian immigration records?
If it's any help, my grandmother says that her mother,
then already a widow in her early 30's, was living in
New York, when David (who was living in Canada) came
to visit some relatives, met her, swept her off her
feet, married her, and took her back to Winnipeg with
him, where my grandmother was born. Any inspirations
on where to dig further are very welcome.
Eve Greenfield, Chicago, Illinois

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Re: re Jewish and non-Jewish families #belarus

The Polster Family <dpolster@...>
 

It should be noted that surnames go according to the Father's surname, but
whether one is Jewish or not, is determined by the Mother. You could have a
Jewish man named Cohen marry a non Jewish wife, so their non Jewish children
would have the Jewish name Cohen. I am researching the name Kelman, and
have found many Christian Scottish Kelmans, not connected in any way with my
family. Judy POLSTER, researching KELMAN/Golovchin-Belarus.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: re Jewish and non-Jewish families #belarus

The Polster Family <dpolster@...>
 

It should be noted that surnames go according to the Father's surname, but
whether one is Jewish or not, is determined by the Mother. You could have a
Jewish man named Cohen marry a non Jewish wife, so their non Jewish children
would have the Jewish name Cohen. I am researching the name Kelman, and
have found many Christian Scottish Kelmans, not connected in any way with my
family. Judy POLSTER, researching KELMAN/Golovchin-Belarus.


Re: THANK YOU! #courland #latvia

S.... ---- <cahoots1@...>
 

I am also willing to do Excel Spreadsheet work. But like some of your other
responders, I only speak English. Please let me know if there is any way I
can be of assistance.

Scott Seril
Virginia, USA
_________________________________________________________________


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: THANK YOU! #latvia

S.... ---- <cahoots1@...>
 

I am also willing to do Excel Spreadsheet work. But like some of your other
responders, I only speak English. Please let me know if there is any way I
can be of assistance.

Scott Seril
Virginia, USA
_________________________________________________________________


KURLAND #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

I must have been tired when I explained to a friend of mine in Denver, CO
about our Kurlander Verein cemetery project. She just sent me by email the
following information on the family KURLAND. Does this family belong to
anyone? Can we put them into our database?

1. At Mt. Nebo Cemetery
(a) Deborah Kurland died 6-23-90
(b) Eugene Kurland died 4-6-95
(c) Maurice Kurland died 8-10-70
(d) Rose Kurland died 11-27-80
2. At Golden Hill Cemetery
(a) Helen Frank Kurland died 10-95 at the age of 88
3. At Rose Hill Cemetery
(a) Issac Kurland died 1906 at the age of 36
(b) Nathan Kurland died 1974 at the age of 77

Martha


Latvia SIG #Latvia KURLAND #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

I must have been tired when I explained to a friend of mine in Denver, CO
about our Kurlander Verein cemetery project. She just sent me by email the
following information on the family KURLAND. Does this family belong to
anyone? Can we put them into our database?

1. At Mt. Nebo Cemetery
(a) Deborah Kurland died 6-23-90
(b) Eugene Kurland died 4-6-95
(c) Maurice Kurland died 8-10-70
(d) Rose Kurland died 11-27-80
2. At Golden Hill Cemetery
(a) Helen Frank Kurland died 10-95 at the age of 88
3. At Rose Hill Cemetery
(a) Issac Kurland died 1906 at the age of 36
(b) Nathan Kurland died 1974 at the age of 77

Martha