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Jewish emigrants from Cherbourg #general

François Chétré nu...
 

Shalom

I'm French and I study History a t the University of Caen. For a master's
thesis that I undertake about the East European Jews who transited by the
port of Cherbourg., I'm looking for relatives of Jews who embarked in
Cherbourg and which could have memories or wich could have hear about it.
I'm looking also for private documents (for example, photographs, ticket
embarkation, passports if Cherbourg appears on it,...), books citations,
articles etc. Unfortunately, there isn't any records available of the
emigrants here in Cherbourg.

There was in Cherbourg two establishments specially intented to accomodate
the emigrants : the "Atlantic Hotel" for those who embarked to United
States and the "Hotel New York" for those who embarked to South America. As
Jews were numerous, these establishments had a Kosher restore controled by
rabbis. There was also private Hotels and restores for Jews. My own family
run one.

It will be very interesting to share information about this survey, and I
would appreciate any message.
Thanks

Francois Chetreanu
Cherbourg, France


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish emigrants from Cherbourg #general

François Chétré nu...
 

Shalom

I'm French and I study History a t the University of Caen. For a master's
thesis that I undertake about the East European Jews who transited by the
port of Cherbourg., I'm looking for relatives of Jews who embarked in
Cherbourg and which could have memories or wich could have hear about it.
I'm looking also for private documents (for example, photographs, ticket
embarkation, passports if Cherbourg appears on it,...), books citations,
articles etc. Unfortunately, there isn't any records available of the
emigrants here in Cherbourg.

There was in Cherbourg two establishments specially intented to accomodate
the emigrants : the "Atlantic Hotel" for those who embarked to United
States and the "Hotel New York" for those who embarked to South America. As
Jews were numerous, these establishments had a Kosher restore controled by
rabbis. There was also private Hotels and restores for Jews. My own family
run one.

It will be very interesting to share information about this survey, and I
would appreciate any message.
Thanks

Francois Chetreanu
Cherbourg, France


Wilhelm Stieda #courland #latvia

Akira Hashimoto <aha@...>
 

Dear Sir

I saw your "Courland Research". Especially, I was interested in "The
Doctorsof Courland 1825- 1900". According to your description, the author
I.Brennsohn listed 125 doctors with Jewish connections. Does that mean all
the doctors listed here are with Jewish connections, or of that only 125
doctors are with Jewish connections?
You probably know that I. Brennsohn published a book "Die Aerzte
Kurlands"(Verlag von Ernst Plates, Riga) in 1929 again (but I don$B!G(Bt have
it). Do you know whether the book of 1929 also deals with the doctors with
Jewish connections in Courland? The reason why I am interested in this book
is that I am looking for a doctor named Wilhelm Stieda(1875-1920) whose
biography is written there(I have a photocopy of this page). I$B!G(Bm not sure
that he has a Jewish origin. At least for me, he is a mysterious person. He
visited Japan probably in 1906, saw several psychiatiric hospitals, and
reported Japanese psychiatry in German medical journal (Centralblatt fur
Nervenheilkunde und Psychiatrie 29: 514-522, 1906). Although he seemed to be
a "Reservearzt auf den russischen japanischen Kriegsschauplatz", his purpose
to visit Japan is not clear. Do you have more information about Wilhelm
Stieda ?

Akira Hashimoto


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Wilhelm Stieda #courland #latvia

Akira Hashimoto <aha@...>
 

Dear Sir

I saw your "Courland Research". Especially, I was interested in "The
Doctorsof Courland 1825- 1900". According to your description, the author
I.Brennsohn listed 125 doctors with Jewish connections. Does that mean all
the doctors listed here are with Jewish connections, or of that only 125
doctors are with Jewish connections?
You probably know that I. Brennsohn published a book "Die Aerzte
Kurlands"(Verlag von Ernst Plates, Riga) in 1929 again (but I don$B!G(Bt have
it). Do you know whether the book of 1929 also deals with the doctors with
Jewish connections in Courland? The reason why I am interested in this book
is that I am looking for a doctor named Wilhelm Stieda(1875-1920) whose
biography is written there(I have a photocopy of this page). I$B!G(Bm not sure
that he has a Jewish origin. At least for me, he is a mysterious person. He
visited Japan probably in 1906, saw several psychiatiric hospitals, and
reported Japanese psychiatry in German medical journal (Centralblatt fur
Nervenheilkunde und Psychiatrie 29: 514-522, 1906). Although he seemed to be
a "Reservearzt auf den russischen japanischen Kriegsschauplatz", his purpose
to visit Japan is not clear. Do you have more information about Wilhelm
Stieda ?

Akira Hashimoto


Courage of our ancestors #general

David Frey <dfrey@...>
 

So many of us marvel at the "Courage of our ancestors". And I don't
demean that courage one bit. The understanding of that courage helps
us to love them all the more, remember them all the more and respect
them all the more.

And yes they came >from terrible circumstances, but what they were
trying to escape >from was many times worse. I doubt if I would have
had the courage to take the journey. But I don't know. Ordinary
people can do extraordinary things to save one or three or nine
children.

For me, genealogy is more about remembering those who had the courage
but didn't make it. 6,000,000 who didn't understand what was
happening to them or those who had already lost almost everyone, yet
clawed there way to Eretz Yisroal, and started again. Rifka who
survived the Warsaw Getto, but lost her husband and one child. And
went to live in Yad Mordichi. Who then lost her husband in 48,
married again and lost her first son in 67, her second son to cancer,
and went on to have two more children, before her husband died in 73.

She taught me Hebrew on the Ulpan. I once asked her how she could go
through all that suffering. "Suffering is the other side of love" I
have been trying to understand.

Suffering , now so many years later, has taught me that what happens
to us is the God-send. It is God's challenge to us to live up to the
example of Abraham. To live up to the commandment to smash the idols
and find the land we have been promised.

Those passed away have already found their peace - I hope we will
have the courage to find ours.

David

dfrey@bigpond.net.au


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Courage of our ancestors #general

David Frey <dfrey@...>
 

So many of us marvel at the "Courage of our ancestors". And I don't
demean that courage one bit. The understanding of that courage helps
us to love them all the more, remember them all the more and respect
them all the more.

And yes they came >from terrible circumstances, but what they were
trying to escape >from was many times worse. I doubt if I would have
had the courage to take the journey. But I don't know. Ordinary
people can do extraordinary things to save one or three or nine
children.

For me, genealogy is more about remembering those who had the courage
but didn't make it. 6,000,000 who didn't understand what was
happening to them or those who had already lost almost everyone, yet
clawed there way to Eretz Yisroal, and started again. Rifka who
survived the Warsaw Getto, but lost her husband and one child. And
went to live in Yad Mordichi. Who then lost her husband in 48,
married again and lost her first son in 67, her second son to cancer,
and went on to have two more children, before her husband died in 73.

She taught me Hebrew on the Ulpan. I once asked her how she could go
through all that suffering. "Suffering is the other side of love" I
have been trying to understand.

Suffering , now so many years later, has taught me that what happens
to us is the God-send. It is God's challenge to us to live up to the
example of Abraham. To live up to the commandment to smash the idols
and find the land we have been promised.

Those passed away have already found their peace - I hope we will
have the courage to find ours.

David

dfrey@bigpond.net.au


Question on the Polish Military #galicia

Josef A. Herz <josef@...>
 

I am hoping that someone will be able to to either answer some of the
questions that have come up in my genealogy search or point me to
resources that might contain the answers.

For the Polish Army pre World War II:
-What was the military obligation for Polish citizens?
-At what age were people called up? 18? 20?
-What was the total length required for active serve?
-What was the reserve obligation after active service? how long? how
much time per year?
-Was reserve service usually assigned to local geographic units? i.e.
my Father lived in Lvov - would he be assigned to a local unit that
was based in Lvov or in its immediate area?

Has anyone had luck getting records >from the Polish government or the
military - military records of soldiers who served before 1939 -
during the 1939 war with Germany - or with Polish units that were
activated after 1941 - Soviet controlled - or Ander's Army?

If you have had luck and are willing to share your experience I would
appreciate it.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Josef Herz - Renton, WA

Doing research on: HERZ, SIGAL/SEGAL, SCHAMER, LEIBER
in Lvov/Lwow/Lemberg, Kristinopol/Chervonograd, Stoyanov/Stiyanev, Sokal


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Question on the Polish Military #galicia

Josef A. Herz <josef@...>
 

I am hoping that someone will be able to to either answer some of the
questions that have come up in my genealogy search or point me to
resources that might contain the answers.

For the Polish Army pre World War II:
-What was the military obligation for Polish citizens?
-At what age were people called up? 18? 20?
-What was the total length required for active serve?
-What was the reserve obligation after active service? how long? how
much time per year?
-Was reserve service usually assigned to local geographic units? i.e.
my Father lived in Lvov - would he be assigned to a local unit that
was based in Lvov or in its immediate area?

Has anyone had luck getting records >from the Polish government or the
military - military records of soldiers who served before 1939 -
during the 1939 war with Germany - or with Polish units that were
activated after 1941 - Soviet controlled - or Ander's Army?

If you have had luck and are willing to share your experience I would
appreciate it.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Josef Herz - Renton, WA

Doing research on: HERZ, SIGAL/SEGAL, SCHAMER, LEIBER
in Lvov/Lwow/Lemberg, Kristinopol/Chervonograd, Stoyanov/Stiyanev, Sokal


Double name Shimkha Gedalia #lithuania

Dick Plotz
 

I recently identified several brothers of my great-grandfather Moses PLOTZ
under the name PLOST in the 1858 revision list of Zelva (Pazelva), Kovno
Guberniya in the ALD. The head of the family was the second brother, Shimkha Gedalia, although the eldest brother Itzik appears in the list as well.

I have never seen this double name, Shimkha Gedalia, before. In fact, I'm
not even sure whether "Shimkha" is a form of Shimon, Simkha, or something
else. But it occurs to me that anyone with this unusual double name is
likely to be a relative. If anyone in your family bears the name Shimkha
Gedalia, please get in touch so we can try to identify a connection.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA
<Dick@Plotz.Com>


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Double name Shimkha Gedalia #lithuania

Dick Plotz
 

I recently identified several brothers of my great-grandfather Moses PLOTZ
under the name PLOST in the 1858 revision list of Zelva (Pazelva), Kovno
Guberniya in the ALD. The head of the family was the second brother, Shimkha Gedalia, although the eldest brother Itzik appears in the list as well.

I have never seen this double name, Shimkha Gedalia, before. In fact, I'm
not even sure whether "Shimkha" is a form of Shimon, Simkha, or something
else. But it occurs to me that anyone with this unusual double name is
likely to be a relative. If anyone in your family bears the name Shimkha
Gedalia, please get in touch so we can try to identify a connection.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA
<Dick@Plotz.Com>


Re: Jodres #galicia

HcWill77@...
 

Hello Fellow Genners,

Thanks to all who responded to my email -- I appreciate it. It is in fact
Todres and not Jodres -- gift >from god.

Take care,

H. Chris Wool

Researching: Wool, Wol, Weissler, Feit, Spieler


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Jodres #galicia

HcWill77@...
 

Hello Fellow Genners,

Thanks to all who responded to my email -- I appreciate it. It is in fact
Todres and not Jodres -- gift >from god.

Take care,

H. Chris Wool

Researching: Wool, Wol, Weissler, Feit, Spieler


Re: Wilhelm Stieda #courland #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

In answer to Akira Hashimoto's questions about DIE AERZTE KURLANDS von
1825-1900 by Dr. I. Brennsohn: Absolutely not all of the medical doctors in
this biographical lexicon are Jewish. Whenever they are, either Dr.
Bennsohn notes that with the sentence: "mosaischer Confession", or he makes
sure to list the Jewish schools that the doctor attended. I do not believe
that Dr. Wilhelm STIEDA was published in the earlier edition of the book,
because the copy that I have [Mitau, 1902] goes >from STERN to STILLBACH.

It might be worth your while to query the Latvian Archives and the Latvian
Archives Registry Department, both of which are in Riga.

Martha LEVINSON Lev-Zion, in Israel


Akira Hashimoto writes:

Dear Sir

I saw your "Courland Research". Especially, I was interested in "The
Doctorsof Courland 1825- 1900". According to your description, the author
I.Brennsohn listed 125 doctors with Jewish connections. Does that mean all
the doctors listed here are with Jewish connections, or of that only 125
doctors are with Jewish connections?


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Re: Wilhelm Stieda #courland #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

In answer to Akira Hashimoto's questions about DIE AERZTE KURLANDS von
1825-1900 by Dr. I. Brennsohn: Absolutely not all of the medical doctors in
this biographical lexicon are Jewish. Whenever they are, either Dr.
Bennsohn notes that with the sentence: "mosaischer Confession", or he makes
sure to list the Jewish schools that the doctor attended. I do not believe
that Dr. Wilhelm STIEDA was published in the earlier edition of the book,
because the copy that I have [Mitau, 1902] goes >from STERN to STILLBACH.

It might be worth your while to query the Latvian Archives and the Latvian
Archives Registry Department, both of which are in Riga.

Martha LEVINSON Lev-Zion, in Israel


Akira Hashimoto writes:

Dear Sir

I saw your "Courland Research". Especially, I was interested in "The
Doctorsof Courland 1825- 1900". According to your description, the author
I.Brennsohn listed 125 doctors with Jewish connections. Does that mean all
the doctors listed here are with Jewish connections, or of that only 125
doctors are with Jewish connections?


Landsmanschaftn #general

Larry Freund and Gloria Berkenstat Freund <glory1@...>
 

Stephanie Weiner inquired about the existence of records for the
landsmanschaft to which her grandfather belonged. The American Jewish
Historical Society has microfilmed the incorporation papers for many
Landsmanschaftn, which can be accessed at the Center for Jewish History in
NYC. I do not know if the the First Austrian Sick Benefit Society is one of
those whose papers were filmed, but it's worth a look.

The First Austrian Sick Benefit Society is not listed in "A Guide to YIVO's
Landsmanschaftn Archive.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Landsmanschaftn #general

Larry Freund and Gloria Berkenstat Freund <glory1@...>
 

Stephanie Weiner inquired about the existence of records for the
landsmanschaft to which her grandfather belonged. The American Jewish
Historical Society has microfilmed the incorporation papers for many
Landsmanschaftn, which can be accessed at the Center for Jewish History in
NYC. I do not know if the the First Austrian Sick Benefit Society is one of
those whose papers were filmed, but it's worth a look.

The First Austrian Sick Benefit Society is not listed in "A Guide to YIVO's
Landsmanschaftn Archive.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
NYC


Visnice and Novy Sacz #galicia

Ariane Mil <mil-mmc@...>
 

Hello

Does anyone have information where Visnice (Galicia) was and where vital
records of Novy Sacz and Visnice could be found?

thanks
Ariane Mil-Guttmann, Zurich, Switzerland mil-mmc@datacomm.ch

Searching:
GUTTMANN, GUTMANN, GOODMAN, Visnice - Novy Sacz (Neu Sandez) - Przemysl -
Prag - London
BUCHSBAUM, Krakow - Novy Sacz - Prag
MIL, BEREK, LIPLAWSKI , LANDSTOCK, Warsaw
WERNIKOFF, WERNICOFF, Kischineff, Sguritza (Russia), Bologna (Italy)
GORDON, Kischineff (Russia)
ROISNER, Attachi (Russia)
RITTNER, Warsaw, New York
ROTTENBERG, Warsaw, London
PARKET, Warsaw, New York
GARBASKI, GARBALSKA, KARBASKY, GARBAFSKI, Krasnopol (Russia), Untergimpern,
Neckarbischofsheim (Germany)
ROKOWSKI, ROKOFSKI, ROKOFSKY, Sowalki, Krasnopol (Russia) Untergimpern,
Neckarbischofsheim (Germany),- Switzerland - USA
GUNTZBURGER, GINTZBURGER, GUNZBURGER, GUENTZBURGER Hegenheim, Huningue
(Alsace, France)
ULLMANN, ULMO, Sierentz (Alsace, France)
PICARD, Regisheim, Altkirch (Alsace, France)
NETTER, Bergheim, Regisheim, Altkirch, Huningue (Alsace, France)
ZIVI, Muellheim, Freiburg, (Germany), Altkirch (France)
NEUSS, Freiburg, Heidelberg (Germany)


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Visnice and Novy Sacz #galicia

Ariane Mil <mil-mmc@...>
 

Hello

Does anyone have information where Visnice (Galicia) was and where vital
records of Novy Sacz and Visnice could be found?

thanks
Ariane Mil-Guttmann, Zurich, Switzerland mil-mmc@datacomm.ch

Searching:
GUTTMANN, GUTMANN, GOODMAN, Visnice - Novy Sacz (Neu Sandez) - Przemysl -
Prag - London
BUCHSBAUM, Krakow - Novy Sacz - Prag
MIL, BEREK, LIPLAWSKI , LANDSTOCK, Warsaw
WERNIKOFF, WERNICOFF, Kischineff, Sguritza (Russia), Bologna (Italy)
GORDON, Kischineff (Russia)
ROISNER, Attachi (Russia)
RITTNER, Warsaw, New York
ROTTENBERG, Warsaw, London
PARKET, Warsaw, New York
GARBASKI, GARBALSKA, KARBASKY, GARBAFSKI, Krasnopol (Russia), Untergimpern,
Neckarbischofsheim (Germany)
ROKOWSKI, ROKOFSKI, ROKOFSKY, Sowalki, Krasnopol (Russia) Untergimpern,
Neckarbischofsheim (Germany),- Switzerland - USA
GUNTZBURGER, GINTZBURGER, GUNZBURGER, GUENTZBURGER Hegenheim, Huningue
(Alsace, France)
ULLMANN, ULMO, Sierentz (Alsace, France)
PICARD, Regisheim, Altkirch (Alsace, France)
NETTER, Bergheim, Regisheim, Altkirch, Huningue (Alsace, France)
ZIVI, Muellheim, Freiburg, (Germany), Altkirch (France)
NEUSS, Freiburg, Heidelberg (Germany)


Re: Canadian Immigration Records/Canadian National Archives #belarus

Eve Greenfield <eve_rachel@...>
 

Deear Jewishgenners (once again),

Seems I may soon be able to answer my own question:
while doing some work-related Web surfing on
Immigration Canada's site, I came upon the following
link for the Canadian National Archives:

http://www.archives.ca/exec/naweb.dll?fs&02&e&top&0

I haven't gotten to explore the page yet fully, but it
looks like a) certain Canadian records are available
online, and b) there is an informational section
devoted to geneaological research for those with
Canadian ties.
In general, I've found the Canadian government to be
very helpful, but if anyone down the line has specific
experience in using the information obtained on this
page, I'd love to hear about it, particularly anything
you may find out that relates to Canadian immigration
or citizenship records.

Eve Greenfield, Chicago, Illinois

[private phone numbers deleted for web privacy and safety]


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re:Canadian Immigration Records/Canadian National Archives #galicia

Eve Greenfield <eve_rachel@...>
 

Deear Jewishgenners (once again),

Seems I may soon be able to answer my own question:
while doing some work-related Web surfing on
Immigration Canada's site, I came upon the following
link for the Canadian National Archives:

http://www.archives.ca/exec/naweb.dll?fs&02&e&top&0

I haven't gotten to explore the page yet fully, but it
looks like a) certain Canadian records are available
online, and b) there is an informational section
devoted to geneaological research for those with
Canadian ties.
In general, I've found the Canadian government to be
very helpful, but if anyone down the line has specific
experience in using the information obtained on this
page, I'd love to hear about it, particularly anything
you may find out that relates to Canadian immigration
or citizenship records.

Eve Greenfield, Chicago, Illinois

[private phone numbers deleted for web privacy and safety]