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Re: Town of Worsuesensk, Russia #general

Tomek Liniecki <liniecki@...>
 

The proper spelling of the name (using English spelling ) is : Voznesensk.
Why don't you try this?

Regards,
Tomasz Liniecki liniecki@rocketmail.com

On my grandfather's (Samuel Eidelman) declaration of intention signed
in 1909, he indicates his last residence was Worsuesensk, Russia.
I can find no information on this town. I wonder if anyone can help
me shed some light on this town. Thanks!

David Eidelman (davideidel@aol.com)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Town of Worsuesensk, Russia #general

Tomek Liniecki <liniecki@...>
 

The proper spelling of the name (using English spelling ) is : Voznesensk.
Why don't you try this?

Regards,
Tomasz Liniecki liniecki@rocketmail.com

On my grandfather's (Samuel Eidelman) declaration of intention signed
in 1909, he indicates his last residence was Worsuesensk, Russia.
I can find no information on this town. I wonder if anyone can help
me shed some light on this town. Thanks!

David Eidelman (davideidel@aol.com)


Double name Shimkha Gedalia #general

Dick Plotz
 

I recently identified several brothers of my great-grandfather Moses PLOTZ
under the name PLOST in the 1858 revision list of Zelva (Pazelva), Kovno
Guberniya, Lithuania, in the All-Lithuania Database. The head of the
family was the second brother, Shimkha Gedalia, although the eldest brother
Itzik appears in the list as well.

I have never seen this double name, Shimkha Gedalia, before. In fact, I'm
not even sure whether "Shimkha" is a form of Shimon, Simkha, or something
else. But it occurs to me that anyone with this unusual double name is
likely to be a relative. If anyone in your family bears the name Shimkha
Gedalia, please get in touch so we can try to identify a connection.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Double name Shimkha Gedalia #general

Dick Plotz
 

I recently identified several brothers of my great-grandfather Moses PLOTZ
under the name PLOST in the 1858 revision list of Zelva (Pazelva), Kovno
Guberniya, Lithuania, in the All-Lithuania Database. The head of the
family was the second brother, Shimkha Gedalia, although the eldest brother
Itzik appears in the list as well.

I have never seen this double name, Shimkha Gedalia, before. In fact, I'm
not even sure whether "Shimkha" is a form of Shimon, Simkha, or something
else. But it occurs to me that anyone with this unusual double name is
likely to be a relative. If anyone in your family bears the name Shimkha
Gedalia, please get in touch so we can try to identify a connection.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA


FEINSTEIN/FINESTONE:Ukraine>MA,NY;1840-- #general

Alan R Rosenfield <arosen@...>
 

I hope that someone has information on my paternal grandmother's family.
We are searching for ancestors and descendants of Israel FEINSTEIN
(sometimes listed as FINESTONE). The son of Samuel FEINSTEIN, he was born
in Zhitomir, Ukraine in 1839/40 and was married to Bella (Blume) ALEXANDER
or BERNSTEIN. He had a sister-in-law named Leah.

Israel and Blume emigrated to Chelsea MA in 1901. All nine of their
children had preceded them to Chelsea:
Abraham changed his name to GORDON and married Dora (Dvera)
ROSENFIELD.
Nathan changed his name to FINESTONE and married Bessie FINKEL.
Simon (Shimon) changed his name to STARR and married Bessie
GINSBERG.
Sophie (Shiva) married John ALBERT.
Clara married Alexander ROSENFIELD. These were my
grandparents.
Sonya (Shininda) married Jacob FINGOLD.
Harry changed his name to FINESTONE and married Fannie
SCHULTZ.
Elizabeth (Leah) never married.
Samuel changed his name to FINESTONE. His
wife was Anna SMITH or SANDERS.

We will be happy to share information if there is a match.

Al Rosenfield
Columbus OH USA
e-mail <arosen@gcfn.org>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FEINSTEIN/FINESTONE:Ukraine>MA,NY;1840-- #general

Alan R Rosenfield <arosen@...>
 

I hope that someone has information on my paternal grandmother's family.
We are searching for ancestors and descendants of Israel FEINSTEIN
(sometimes listed as FINESTONE). The son of Samuel FEINSTEIN, he was born
in Zhitomir, Ukraine in 1839/40 and was married to Bella (Blume) ALEXANDER
or BERNSTEIN. He had a sister-in-law named Leah.

Israel and Blume emigrated to Chelsea MA in 1901. All nine of their
children had preceded them to Chelsea:
Abraham changed his name to GORDON and married Dora (Dvera)
ROSENFIELD.
Nathan changed his name to FINESTONE and married Bessie FINKEL.
Simon (Shimon) changed his name to STARR and married Bessie
GINSBERG.
Sophie (Shiva) married John ALBERT.
Clara married Alexander ROSENFIELD. These were my
grandparents.
Sonya (Shininda) married Jacob FINGOLD.
Harry changed his name to FINESTONE and married Fannie
SCHULTZ.
Elizabeth (Leah) never married.
Samuel changed his name to FINESTONE. His
wife was Anna SMITH or SANDERS.

We will be happy to share information if there is a match.

Al Rosenfield
Columbus OH USA
e-mail <arosen@gcfn.org>


Mexican border crossing records #general

David Cooper <dcooper@...>
 

I know that the St. Albans Records are for the U.S. / Canadian border
crossing, is there a similar set of records for Mexican / U.S. border
crossings ?

thanks...david

Researching: ALLEN,BERZONER,COHEN,COOPER,KUPFERZMIDT,
POSNER (POIZNER), PRITIKIN, STARKMAN
Dachau Camp Entry List, Genealogy Utilities
http://pages.prodigy.net/dcooper000/index.htm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mexican border crossing records #general

David Cooper <dcooper@...>
 

I know that the St. Albans Records are for the U.S. / Canadian border
crossing, is there a similar set of records for Mexican / U.S. border
crossings ?

thanks...david

Researching: ALLEN,BERZONER,COHEN,COOPER,KUPFERZMIDT,
POSNER (POIZNER), PRITIKIN, STARKMAN
Dachau Camp Entry List, Genealogy Utilities
http://pages.prodigy.net/dcooper000/index.htm


Re: Closing: Postal mark - England? #general

Michael F. Simon <mfsimon@...>
 

Hilary Henkin wrote:
"So now I know the card was created in England, which narrows down my
search for this branch of my family."

I'm afraid you have jumped to a conclusion not warranted by the facts
you submitted earlier. >from the end of WW I until 1948, "Palestine" was
under the control of the British Mandate. Therefore, it is reasonable to
believe that while your card may have been printed in the UK, it might
nevertheless have been used in Palestine.

Please don't shut the door on that possibility.

Mike Simon
Portage, MI


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Closing: Postal mark - England? #general

Michael F. Simon <mfsimon@...>
 

Hilary Henkin wrote:
"So now I know the card was created in England, which narrows down my
search for this branch of my family."

I'm afraid you have jumped to a conclusion not warranted by the facts
you submitted earlier. >from the end of WW I until 1948, "Palestine" was
under the control of the British Mandate. Therefore, it is reasonable to
believe that while your card may have been printed in the UK, it might
nevertheless have been used in Palestine.

Please don't shut the door on that possibility.

Mike Simon
Portage, MI


Jewish emigrants from Cherbourg #general

François Chétré nu...
 

Shalom

I'm French and I study History a t the University of Caen. For a master's
thesis that I undertake about the East European Jews who transited by the
port of Cherbourg., I'm looking for relatives of Jews who embarked in
Cherbourg and which could have memories or wich could have hear about it.
I'm looking also for private documents (for example, photographs, ticket
embarkation, passports if Cherbourg appears on it,...), books citations,
articles etc. Unfortunately, there isn't any records available of the
emigrants here in Cherbourg.

There was in Cherbourg two establishments specially intented to accomodate
the emigrants : the "Atlantic Hotel" for those who embarked to United
States and the "Hotel New York" for those who embarked to South America. As
Jews were numerous, these establishments had a Kosher restore controled by
rabbis. There was also private Hotels and restores for Jews. My own family
run one.

It will be very interesting to share information about this survey, and I
would appreciate any message.
Thanks

Francois Chetreanu
Cherbourg, France


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish emigrants from Cherbourg #general

François Chétré nu...
 

Shalom

I'm French and I study History a t the University of Caen. For a master's
thesis that I undertake about the East European Jews who transited by the
port of Cherbourg., I'm looking for relatives of Jews who embarked in
Cherbourg and which could have memories or wich could have hear about it.
I'm looking also for private documents (for example, photographs, ticket
embarkation, passports if Cherbourg appears on it,...), books citations,
articles etc. Unfortunately, there isn't any records available of the
emigrants here in Cherbourg.

There was in Cherbourg two establishments specially intented to accomodate
the emigrants : the "Atlantic Hotel" for those who embarked to United
States and the "Hotel New York" for those who embarked to South America. As
Jews were numerous, these establishments had a Kosher restore controled by
rabbis. There was also private Hotels and restores for Jews. My own family
run one.

It will be very interesting to share information about this survey, and I
would appreciate any message.
Thanks

Francois Chetreanu
Cherbourg, France


Wilhelm Stieda #courland #latvia

Akira Hashimoto <aha@...>
 

Dear Sir

I saw your "Courland Research". Especially, I was interested in "The
Doctorsof Courland 1825- 1900". According to your description, the author
I.Brennsohn listed 125 doctors with Jewish connections. Does that mean all
the doctors listed here are with Jewish connections, or of that only 125
doctors are with Jewish connections?
You probably know that I. Brennsohn published a book "Die Aerzte
Kurlands"(Verlag von Ernst Plates, Riga) in 1929 again (but I don$B!G(Bt have
it). Do you know whether the book of 1929 also deals with the doctors with
Jewish connections in Courland? The reason why I am interested in this book
is that I am looking for a doctor named Wilhelm Stieda(1875-1920) whose
biography is written there(I have a photocopy of this page). I$B!G(Bm not sure
that he has a Jewish origin. At least for me, he is a mysterious person. He
visited Japan probably in 1906, saw several psychiatiric hospitals, and
reported Japanese psychiatry in German medical journal (Centralblatt fur
Nervenheilkunde und Psychiatrie 29: 514-522, 1906). Although he seemed to be
a "Reservearzt auf den russischen japanischen Kriegsschauplatz", his purpose
to visit Japan is not clear. Do you have more information about Wilhelm
Stieda ?

Akira Hashimoto


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Wilhelm Stieda #courland #latvia

Akira Hashimoto <aha@...>
 

Dear Sir

I saw your "Courland Research". Especially, I was interested in "The
Doctorsof Courland 1825- 1900". According to your description, the author
I.Brennsohn listed 125 doctors with Jewish connections. Does that mean all
the doctors listed here are with Jewish connections, or of that only 125
doctors are with Jewish connections?
You probably know that I. Brennsohn published a book "Die Aerzte
Kurlands"(Verlag von Ernst Plates, Riga) in 1929 again (but I don$B!G(Bt have
it). Do you know whether the book of 1929 also deals with the doctors with
Jewish connections in Courland? The reason why I am interested in this book
is that I am looking for a doctor named Wilhelm Stieda(1875-1920) whose
biography is written there(I have a photocopy of this page). I$B!G(Bm not sure
that he has a Jewish origin. At least for me, he is a mysterious person. He
visited Japan probably in 1906, saw several psychiatiric hospitals, and
reported Japanese psychiatry in German medical journal (Centralblatt fur
Nervenheilkunde und Psychiatrie 29: 514-522, 1906). Although he seemed to be
a "Reservearzt auf den russischen japanischen Kriegsschauplatz", his purpose
to visit Japan is not clear. Do you have more information about Wilhelm
Stieda ?

Akira Hashimoto


Courage of our ancestors #general

David Frey <dfrey@...>
 

So many of us marvel at the "Courage of our ancestors". And I don't
demean that courage one bit. The understanding of that courage helps
us to love them all the more, remember them all the more and respect
them all the more.

And yes they came >from terrible circumstances, but what they were
trying to escape >from was many times worse. I doubt if I would have
had the courage to take the journey. But I don't know. Ordinary
people can do extraordinary things to save one or three or nine
children.

For me, genealogy is more about remembering those who had the courage
but didn't make it. 6,000,000 who didn't understand what was
happening to them or those who had already lost almost everyone, yet
clawed there way to Eretz Yisroal, and started again. Rifka who
survived the Warsaw Getto, but lost her husband and one child. And
went to live in Yad Mordichi. Who then lost her husband in 48,
married again and lost her first son in 67, her second son to cancer,
and went on to have two more children, before her husband died in 73.

She taught me Hebrew on the Ulpan. I once asked her how she could go
through all that suffering. "Suffering is the other side of love" I
have been trying to understand.

Suffering , now so many years later, has taught me that what happens
to us is the God-send. It is God's challenge to us to live up to the
example of Abraham. To live up to the commandment to smash the idols
and find the land we have been promised.

Those passed away have already found their peace - I hope we will
have the courage to find ours.

David

dfrey@bigpond.net.au


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Courage of our ancestors #general

David Frey <dfrey@...>
 

So many of us marvel at the "Courage of our ancestors". And I don't
demean that courage one bit. The understanding of that courage helps
us to love them all the more, remember them all the more and respect
them all the more.

And yes they came >from terrible circumstances, but what they were
trying to escape >from was many times worse. I doubt if I would have
had the courage to take the journey. But I don't know. Ordinary
people can do extraordinary things to save one or three or nine
children.

For me, genealogy is more about remembering those who had the courage
but didn't make it. 6,000,000 who didn't understand what was
happening to them or those who had already lost almost everyone, yet
clawed there way to Eretz Yisroal, and started again. Rifka who
survived the Warsaw Getto, but lost her husband and one child. And
went to live in Yad Mordichi. Who then lost her husband in 48,
married again and lost her first son in 67, her second son to cancer,
and went on to have two more children, before her husband died in 73.

She taught me Hebrew on the Ulpan. I once asked her how she could go
through all that suffering. "Suffering is the other side of love" I
have been trying to understand.

Suffering , now so many years later, has taught me that what happens
to us is the God-send. It is God's challenge to us to live up to the
example of Abraham. To live up to the commandment to smash the idols
and find the land we have been promised.

Those passed away have already found their peace - I hope we will
have the courage to find ours.

David

dfrey@bigpond.net.au


Question on the Polish Military #galicia

Josef A. Herz <josef@...>
 

I am hoping that someone will be able to to either answer some of the
questions that have come up in my genealogy search or point me to
resources that might contain the answers.

For the Polish Army pre World War II:
-What was the military obligation for Polish citizens?
-At what age were people called up? 18? 20?
-What was the total length required for active serve?
-What was the reserve obligation after active service? how long? how
much time per year?
-Was reserve service usually assigned to local geographic units? i.e.
my Father lived in Lvov - would he be assigned to a local unit that
was based in Lvov or in its immediate area?

Has anyone had luck getting records >from the Polish government or the
military - military records of soldiers who served before 1939 -
during the 1939 war with Germany - or with Polish units that were
activated after 1941 - Soviet controlled - or Ander's Army?

If you have had luck and are willing to share your experience I would
appreciate it.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Josef Herz - Renton, WA

Doing research on: HERZ, SIGAL/SEGAL, SCHAMER, LEIBER
in Lvov/Lwow/Lemberg, Kristinopol/Chervonograd, Stoyanov/Stiyanev, Sokal


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Question on the Polish Military #galicia

Josef A. Herz <josef@...>
 

I am hoping that someone will be able to to either answer some of the
questions that have come up in my genealogy search or point me to
resources that might contain the answers.

For the Polish Army pre World War II:
-What was the military obligation for Polish citizens?
-At what age were people called up? 18? 20?
-What was the total length required for active serve?
-What was the reserve obligation after active service? how long? how
much time per year?
-Was reserve service usually assigned to local geographic units? i.e.
my Father lived in Lvov - would he be assigned to a local unit that
was based in Lvov or in its immediate area?

Has anyone had luck getting records >from the Polish government or the
military - military records of soldiers who served before 1939 -
during the 1939 war with Germany - or with Polish units that were
activated after 1941 - Soviet controlled - or Ander's Army?

If you have had luck and are willing to share your experience I would
appreciate it.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Josef Herz - Renton, WA

Doing research on: HERZ, SIGAL/SEGAL, SCHAMER, LEIBER
in Lvov/Lwow/Lemberg, Kristinopol/Chervonograd, Stoyanov/Stiyanev, Sokal


Double name Shimkha Gedalia #lithuania

Dick Plotz
 

I recently identified several brothers of my great-grandfather Moses PLOTZ
under the name PLOST in the 1858 revision list of Zelva (Pazelva), Kovno
Guberniya in the ALD. The head of the family was the second brother, Shimkha Gedalia, although the eldest brother Itzik appears in the list as well.

I have never seen this double name, Shimkha Gedalia, before. In fact, I'm
not even sure whether "Shimkha" is a form of Shimon, Simkha, or something
else. But it occurs to me that anyone with this unusual double name is
likely to be a relative. If anyone in your family bears the name Shimkha
Gedalia, please get in touch so we can try to identify a connection.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA
<Dick@Plotz.Com>


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Double name Shimkha Gedalia #lithuania

Dick Plotz
 

I recently identified several brothers of my great-grandfather Moses PLOTZ
under the name PLOST in the 1858 revision list of Zelva (Pazelva), Kovno
Guberniya in the ALD. The head of the family was the second brother, Shimkha Gedalia, although the eldest brother Itzik appears in the list as well.

I have never seen this double name, Shimkha Gedalia, before. In fact, I'm
not even sure whether "Shimkha" is a form of Shimon, Simkha, or something
else. But it occurs to me that anyone with this unusual double name is
likely to be a relative. If anyone in your family bears the name Shimkha
Gedalia, please get in touch so we can try to identify a connection.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA
<Dick@Plotz.Com>