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Towns in the region of Giessen, Germany #germany

ylaltein@...
 

I'm trying to decipher place names written in Hebrew by a mohel recording the names and places of boys he circumcised. All these locations are in the region of Giessen, in Hesse, Germany. 

I'm having difficulty deciphering the following towns: 

היער
לאשדערן

Any assistance with this would be greatly appreciated!

Yehuda Altein


Ajfer Wasserzug #general

David Lewin
 

Is there anyone researching Afer and or Wasserzug ?

David Lewin
London


Pogrom Polish / Lithuanian border around 1905-1906 #poland #lithuania

Ann Scher
 

I was told by my father that his grandfather's parents were killed in a pogrom on the Polish / Lithuanian border.

He (my great-grandfather) was born in Lachowitz or Minsk (have seen both on documents). He lived in Augustow prior to emigrating in 1906. I don't know where his parents were living at the time of the pogrom but assume it must have been in or near Augustow given it's proximity to the Polish / Lithuanian border.

Any information or suggestions about how to research records about a pogrom occurring around 1905-1906 in the Augustow area?

Thank you,

Ann Scher


Re: Jewish Heritage Research Group in Belarus #belarus

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

I have known Yuri Dorn for well over 20 years and done 3 projects with him. I always recommend him (and his group) for Belarus research!

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
New Mexico
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Re: Help interpreting last name / patronymic on Lithuanian marriage record #records

pathetiq1@...
 

Hi Ann, 

The name (although unusual) is definitely patronymic first name. Apparently Leizer's father was named Shersha (Sharsha, Sarsa, Sersa etc.) At least that is what the document suggests. 
--
Giannis Daropoulos 

Greece


Rabbinic dynasties #rabbinic

Gerson Sher
 

On Ancestry.com, I've come across some names that seem to be bits and pieces of rabbinic dynasty lineages. They are unusually marked by an image like this: 
Has anyone seen this? Does anyone know what is the source of these markings, who tracks them and puts them up? I'm guessing that they are of Hasidic origin but that's just a guess.

One odd thing about some entries in these lineages, especially the more ancient ones (they go back literally thousands of years) is that there are "photos" of the person. These are obviously not photos at all, but at best reconstructions. As such, they should have been labeled as such by the person who originally posted them. They show up in the trees of many folks who have come across these names, and in some cases with comments like, "amazing picture" etc. This is clearly bogus, and in turn, there's the old adage that where there's smoke, there's fire. It casts the whole tree into doubt. Personally, not knowing more about these lineage trees, I suspect that the links are genuine but the images are imaginary.

Gerson Sher
Washington, DC


Mass Jewish murder in 1612? #poland

Gerson Sher
 

From multiple Ancestry records, there must have been a mass execution of Jews on 7 March 1612 in Poznan (some records say Prague, but it seems to have been Poznan). Does anyone have any information about this?

Gerson Sher
Washington, DC


Re: First name of Zelik #names

binyaminkerman@...
 

Stephen-
Chilik would usually be a nickname for Yechiel. I don't think there is a direct connection to Zelig.
Binyamin Kerman
Baltimore MD


Re: Tombstone translation #translation

fredelfruhman
 

Thank you for the corrected secular date.

The Hebrew letters that represent the numbers 4 and 5 are very similar (5 has a small extra piece, which is often difficult to see or is eroded). 

Looking again at the stone, I am changing my original reading of the year:  5654, rather than 5655. 

The date of December 3, 1893, corresponds to the 24th or 25th day of Kislev (the 24th, if she died before sunset, the 25th, if she died after sunset).  Again, it is not absolutely clear if the last digit is a 4 or a 5.  

December 3, 1893,
was a Sunday.  If she died after sunset, this would be considered Monday in the Jewish calendar. 
--
Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA


Re: First name of Zelik #names

Henry Roche
 

Dear George,
I've encountered 2 or 3 whose English given name was Solomon but whose Hebrew name was Reuben (Reuben Zelig).(in 18th & 19th century).
Henry Roche 
Wimbledon


Re: First name of Zelik #names

Robert Hanna
 

My paternal grandfather Zelik was also known as Joseph.  There is no rhyme or reason.  I have not been able to find his birth record.

Robert Hanna
NYC


Re: First name of Zelik #names

Marcel Apsel
 

Chilik is a pet name for Yechiel.  Little Yechiel.

Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium


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Re: First name of Zelik #names

Marcel Apsel
 

Zelig is a phonetic variant from Selig, from the German and ‘Old English’ meaning ‘blessed, holy’.  A Yiddish first name common among Jews of the 18th and 19th century.

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium


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Help interpreting last name / patronymic on Lithuanian marriage record #records

Ann Scher
 

On the screenshot below from the marriage of Israel FRAIZINGER to Khode GERBER, I am uncertain how to interpret the bracketed names of the bride and groom's parents. The name ISRAELEVICH appears to refer to the first name of Israel's father's father (patronymic) based on other records. However what does SHERSHAVICH refer to under Leizer Gerber? I am related to this family in some way through the Sharshevich name so I don't think this refers to a first name. Could it be the maiden name of the mother Khana?

Thank you.

Ann Scher


Re: Golub, Prussia 1830's, 1840's #germany

sjgwed@...
 

Small correction - JBS is Jewish Broadcasting Service. At jbstv.org 
Good luck!

Susan J. Gordon


Re: First name of Zelik #names

Irwin Keller
 

Judy,

I don't know the name Zimel. But Zanvel, I believe, is a diminutive of Ze'ev. So for that person you would want your eyes open for someone names either Zev or Wulf (both meaning "wolf"). 

Not mentioned yet is the other than Shlomo, from which Solomon derives, the most common Yiddish reflex for Solomon is Zalman. 

As for Zelig, besides being an inexact counterpart to Solomon, have folks had experience seeing it as a Yiddish equivalent of something closer to the meaning "holy?" For instance there is someone in my tree who I think was a Zelig and also a Baruch. (I know "holy" and "blessed" are not quite the same; another Baruchs are also called Bendet, which I presume to be from Benedict, which is more exact in the "blessed" meaning.)

Just curious!


Irwin Keller
Penngrove, CA, USA


Re: Jewish Heritage Research Group in Belarus #belarus

Carol
 

I've known them for years, and they have done wonderful research for me in Novogrudok, Rechitsa and Lyuban.I always recommend them to people searching in Belarus.
Carol Isenberg Clingan
Dedham MA


Re: First name of Zelik #names

Stephen Katz
 

First, a question (or two): is anyone familiar with the name Chilik, and is it a variant of Zelig?

Here's my story. My Jewish name is Zelig, and I've been trying to work out where it came from. None of my ancestors, going back several generations, on either my paternal or maternal side, was named Zelig. I've considered three possibilities:
 
1. My parents simply chose Zelig for no particular reason. But that's not likely. In naming both of my siblings, my parents followed Jewish tradition and named them after deceased family members.
 
2. My great grandfather's name was Simcha, which means joy in English. Zelig is a derivation of the German word Selig, which has several meanings. Although Selig is in some contexts translated as blessed, in common usage it means happy or joyous. So one possibility is that my parents named me after my great grandfather Simcha, but, for some reason, chose Zelig as a synonym. 
But why didn't they simply name me Simcha? Both of my siblings' Jewish names are the actual names of deceased family members.
 
3. Now I come to the name Chilik. My grandfather -- Simcha's son -- was Mordche (Motel) Katz. But when he immigrated from Ukraine to the US, in 1907 at age 14, he traveled under the name Chilik Schapiro. This is confirmed in his Certificate of Arrival and in his naturalization papers and it's how he's listed in the ship manifest. He traveled alone, with no other family members. My working assumption has been that, perhaps seeking to avoid his conscription into the Czar's army, his parents somehow obtained travel documents from someone named Chilik Schapiro. Is Chilik a variant of Zelig? If so, perhaps my parents named me after Chilik to recognize his role in enabling my grandfather emigrate to safety.
 
Thoughts on any of the above would be greatly appreciated!
 
Stephen Katz 


What happened on 7 March 1612 in Poznan? Mass death of Jews #general #poland

Gerson Sher
 

From multiple Ancestry records, there must have been a mass execution of Jews on 7 March 1612 in Poznan (some records say Prague, but it seems to have been Poznan). Does anyone have any information about this?


Re: First name of Zelik #names

LisaB
 

Wondering if my great-grandfather name, FELIK (Weiner/Veiner) is derived from Zelik as well. He’s from Maramaros Sighet.

Thoughts?

Lisa Bernath
Ivins, Utah USA
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