Dear all,

I am for an on-line Newsletter, provided the difficulties can be solved. =
If it goes on-line, back issues must be searchable for those who =
subscribe. (If stored digitally with a subscriber, old copies may get =
lost in e. g. a hard disk crash and I suppose many readers refer to back =
issues as frequently as I do).

I don't know how many people >from East Europe subscribe, but I can see =
that they may have difficulties getting the newsletter as internet =
access may be unreliable, expensive or in other ways restricted. And =
those readers may be very important for us in the western world wanting =
to connect with our roots. So, perhaps the savings on postage could be =
used to provide those subscribers with paper copies? Or will those =
saving be eaten up by the costs for a new server?

Just some thoughts >from Sweden. (Apologies if I am repeating some of the =
stuff already said, I have not read all the postings in great detail).

All the best,
Erik

Erik Hirschfeld, Malmo, Sweden. e.hirschfeld@swipnet.se

__________
Researching:=20
Krakow families: ANISFELD , BAUMINGER , DEICHES, GLEITSMAN, HIRSCHFELD, =
H=DCBINGER, KORNGOLD, MOSKOWSKIM/MOSKOWSKA, PISEK, ZUCKER=20

Surnames of Krakow spouses: GR=DCNER, KOPEL, LANDAU, MIRTENBAUM, =
RAKOWER, SPIRA, SUREK (TURK), S=DCSSER

Other families: BLOCK (Raciborz, Breslau, Berlin), BOSS (Zuelz, =
Breslau), DAUW (anywhere), FEITELBERG, HIRSCHFELD (Breslau), KORITZINSKY =
(Raczki), LANGER (Raciborz), OLSCHANSKI (Posen), RIESENFELD.

Is a compromise not possible?

For those who want the newsletter on-line, the articles can be posted as
they come in. For those who want it on paper, by mail, the articles can be
printed every quarter as it is being done now. This way everybody receives
the newsletter the way they want it.

Judie Ostroff-Goldstein
Syosset, NY

Dear all,

I am for an on-line Newsletter, provided the difficulties can be solved. =
If it goes on-line, back issues must be searchable for those who =
subscribe. (If stored digitally with a subscriber, old copies may get =
lost in e. g. a hard disk crash and I suppose many readers refer to back =
issues as frequently as I do).

I don't know how many people >from East Europe subscribe, but I can see =
that they may have difficulties getting the newsletter as internet =
access may be unreliable, expensive or in other ways restricted. And =
those readers may be very important for us in the western world wanting =
to connect with our roots. So, perhaps the savings on postage could be =
used to provide those subscribers with paper copies? Or will those =
saving be eaten up by the costs for a new server?

Just some thoughts >from Sweden. (Apologies if I am repeating some of the =
stuff already said, I have not read all the postings in great detail).

All the best,
Erik

Erik Hirschfeld, Malmo, Sweden. e.hirschfeld@swipnet.se

__________
Researching:=20
Krakow families: ANISFELD , BAUMINGER , DEICHES, GLEITSMAN, HIRSCHFELD, =
H=DCBINGER, KORNGOLD, MOSKOWSKIM/MOSKOWSKA, PISEK, ZUCKER=20

Surnames of Krakow spouses: GR=DCNER, KOPEL, LANDAU, MIRTENBAUM, =
RAKOWER, SPIRA, SUREK (TURK), S=DCSSER

Other families: BLOCK (Raciborz, Breslau, Berlin), BOSS (Zuelz, =
Breslau), DAUW (anywhere), FEITELBERG, HIRSCHFELD (Breslau), KORITZINSKY =
(Raczki), LANGER (Raciborz), OLSCHANSKI (Posen), RIESENFELD.

Is a compromise not possible?

For those who want the newsletter on-line, the articles can be posted as
they come in. For those who want it on paper, by mail, the articles can be
printed every quarter as it is being done now. This way everybody receives
the newsletter the way they want it.

Judie Ostroff-Goldstein
Syosset, NY

Although I prefer the on-line version of Newsletters, I can
understand the reasons some prefer a written version. I belong to an
organization that seems to have solved the problem. Members can
choose either the on-line version or have a printed version sent to
their home. A "pdf" file is sent to the members who choose on-line
and provide their email address, while the printed version is sent to
the others. This method would seem to solve the problem of access on
the JewishGen server being free and open to the public. The
organization I mention above has been switching more members each
quarter to the on-line version and saving considerable costs in
mailing.

Dick Eigen

Although I prefer the on-line version of Newsletters, I can
understand the reasons some prefer a written version. I belong to an
organization that seems to have solved the problem. Members can
choose either the on-line version or have a printed version sent to
their home. A "pdf" file is sent to the members who choose on-line
and provide their email address, while the printed version is sent to
the others. This method would seem to solve the problem of access on
the JewishGen server being free and open to the public. The
organization I mention above has been switching more members each
quarter to the on-line version and saving considerable costs in
mailing.

Dick Eigen

I erred in giving credit for the genealogy workshop at the Skirball Center
here in LA. In fact, the workshop was sponsored by the Jewish
Genealogical Society of Los Angeles. I'm a member of JGSLA, so I am
doubly embarassed.

So-- sincere apologies and many thanks to JGSLA, and most especially to
member and treasurer Linda Thorpe Caciola, whose volunteered time made
such a huge difference in my research and success.

Howard Rosen
Los Angeles

p.s. I received in today's mail three more thick envelopes >from the
Jewish Historical Institute in Warsaw. My "generous contribution" (their
words, not mine) has brought back unbelievable treasures!

I erred in giving credit for the genealogy workshop at the Skirball Center
here in LA. In fact, the workshop was sponsored by the Jewish
Genealogical Society of Los Angeles. I'm a member of JGSLA, so I am
doubly embarassed.

So-- sincere apologies and many thanks to JGSLA, and most especially to
member and treasurer Linda Thorpe Caciola, whose volunteered time made
such a huge difference in my research and success.

Howard Rosen
Los Angeles

p.s. I received in today's mail three more thick envelopes >from the
Jewish Historical Institute in Warsaw. My "generous contribution" (their
words, not mine) has brought back unbelievable treasures!

Can anyone tell me anything about a town named Kronger? It pops up on
the shtetl seeker search as Gory Mokre, Located in between Radomsko and
Kielce. Could anyone venture a guess as to what Jews called this town
of Kronger?

Thank you, Yeruchem Cohen
Happy Chanukah to all!!

Researching:
COHEN/HODES: Kiev/Odessa?->Plattsburgh, NY
POMERANTZ: Baranov,Tarnow,Warsaw->NYC,Bronx & Albany, NY
CRYSTAL/MORGENROTH:?-> Springfield, Pittsfield, MA
TAUBER/MARKS (MARKUS,MARX): Pultusk->NYC, Bronx, NY
HARRIS(HOLRIS): Warsaw->NYC, Bronx, NY
SCHALL,MINTZ: "Galicia/Austria"->NYC, NY
[Mod Note - Surname list edited to allowed 6 lines]

My family is >from New Rochelle and have been there many years. Maybe I
could help you. Give me whatever information you need and send it to
me at jamesweiss225@aol.com

Jim Weiss

Can anyone tell me anything about a town named Kronger? It pops up on
the shtetl seeker search as Gory Mokre, Located in between Radomsko and
Kielce. Could anyone venture a guess as to what Jews called this town
of Kronger?

Thank you, Yeruchem Cohen
Happy Chanukah to all!!

Researching:
COHEN/HODES: Kiev/Odessa?->Plattsburgh, NY
POMERANTZ: Baranov,Tarnow,Warsaw->NYC,Bronx & Albany, NY
CRYSTAL/MORGENROTH:?-> Springfield, Pittsfield, MA
TAUBER/MARKS (MARKUS,MARX): Pultusk->NYC, Bronx, NY
HARRIS(HOLRIS): Warsaw->NYC, Bronx, NY
SCHALL,MINTZ: "Galicia/Austria"->NYC, NY
[Mod Note - Surname list edited to allowed 6 lines]

My family is >from New Rochelle and have been there many years. Maybe I
could help you. Give me whatever information you need and send it to
me at jamesweiss225@aol.com

Jim Weiss

May I add my two cents here.

1. There is free Internet access at most public libraries.

2. If you have a computer and a phone, you can access the Internet free
through selected Internet providers.

3. A lot of public continuing education centers, senior centers and
libraries give free computer instruction.

4. The Belarus SIG newsletter on line has a service that sends an e-mail
when the newsletter is updated so I know when a new article appears.

5. This forum does not give an accurate reading of the Galicia SIG
membership. Perhaps a survey listing pros and cons and requesting a
response should be sent to the SIG mailing list.

6. I pay membership dues because one should support a group one participates
in, not for the newsletter.

7. Why not put the newsletter on the web AND
Print out and send a copy of new articles as they come out to those
who pay a fee for this service. The fee could be enough for to cover
supplies, postage and a little extra for SIG research.

I would be willing to push the print button on my computer (no color
printing) and send an article to a mailing list. (Please webmaster not too
many hyperlinks)

Shana Egan
San Diego

May I add my two cents here.

1. There is free Internet access at most public libraries.

2. If you have a computer and a phone, you can access the Internet free
through selected Internet providers.

3. A lot of public continuing education centers, senior centers and
libraries give free computer instruction.

4. The Belarus SIG newsletter on line has a service that sends an e-mail
when the newsletter is updated so I know when a new article appears.

5. This forum does not give an accurate reading of the Galicia SIG
membership. Perhaps a survey listing pros and cons and requesting a
response should be sent to the SIG mailing list.

6. I pay membership dues because one should support a group one participates
in, not for the newsletter.

7. Why not put the newsletter on the web AND
Print out and send a copy of new articles as they come out to those
who pay a fee for this service. The fee could be enough for to cover
supplies, postage and a little extra for SIG research.

I would be willing to push the print button on my computer (no color
printing) and send an article to a mailing list. (Please webmaster not too
many hyperlinks)

Shana Egan
San Diego

The name is probably "Tanchum". It comes >from the same root as the male
names Menachem, Nachum, Nachman and Nechemia and the female name Nechama.

It is not related to the name Natan.

Cyndee Meystel
Chicago, IL
NOTICE: The e-mail address is deliberately incorrect. Delete "nospam" from
the e-mail address to reply.
cmeys@nospamearthlink.net

"Dara Pearlman" <pearlman99@yahoo.com> wrote

The name is probably "Tanchum". It comes >from the same root as the male
names Menachem, Nachum, Nachman and Nechemia and the female name Nechama.

It is not related to the name Natan.

Cyndee Meystel
Chicago, IL
NOTICE: The e-mail address is deliberately incorrect. Delete "nospam" from
the e-mail address to reply.
cmeys@nospamearthlink.net

"Dara Pearlman" <pearlman99@yahoo.com> wrote

Dear all,

Under the terms of Gesher Galicia's agreement with JewishGen, access on
the JewishGen server is free and open to the public. There can be no
paid access for Gesher Galicia information on the JewishGen site. We
have been following your comments with great interest.

Beginning in January, the Gesher Galicia Steering Committee will revisit
the areas of concern addressed by our members and subscribers to this
list. Your feedback is essential, so let us know your thoughts via this
group. It is quite difficult for me to answer personally all your
private emails, so please post them here.

We still do not have an editor-in-chief for The Galitzianer. Let me
know if you can help.

Thank you for your participation.

Shelley Kellerman Pollero, Coordinator
Gesher Galicia
(and full time high school teacher)
Severna Park, Maryland USA

Please reply to this list: <galicia@lyris.jewishgen.org>

I concur with Linda Cantor's objections to an on-line newsletter.
I too

... do not want to have to sit at a computer in order to read
a journal nor do I want to have to print one out...

and

...want to be able to keep it and refer to it at some later date.

I am also concerned that The Galitzianer's publication online
would reduce its usefulness to our JGS, which subscribes. A full
run of back copies is housed in our library. When I mentor new
members with roots in Galicia, one of the first things I advise
is that they head for the library and thumb through back copies--
so they can learn >from past content and see the value of joining
Gesher Galicia.

Yes, in theory the person could look at archived issues online,
but that's both less likely and less effective--even if the
member is computer-comfortable. (About 40% of our members are
not online.) Yes, in theory one of our Board members could take
responsibility for printing out a copy for the library; more
likely, we'd decide not to subscribe.

Renee

Renee Steinig
RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us

I would like to announce the posting of viewmate file VM203. It is listed
in the "other" section.

I am interested in finding out the name of the Russian town listed. The
quality of the original is very poor and I did try to make it better with
my image software.

The top of the document is the passenger section. The part I need help
with is further down the document. More details are provided with the
posting.

Any help is appreciated.

Sincerely,
Phoebe Nix
Florida

phoenixxph@earthlink.net

Researching (Short List)-
DORFMAN......ZEILENGOLD......SCHAFFER......SIMON....PHILIPSON.....
(USA.....Russia......Germany)

Dear all,

Under the terms of Gesher Galicia's agreement with JewishGen, access on
the JewishGen server is free and open to the public. There can be no
paid access for Gesher Galicia information on the JewishGen site. We
have been following your comments with great interest.

Beginning in January, the Gesher Galicia Steering Committee will revisit
the areas of concern addressed by our members and subscribers to this
list. Your feedback is essential, so let us know your thoughts via this
group. It is quite difficult for me to answer personally all your
private emails, so please post them here.

We still do not have an editor-in-chief for The Galitzianer. Let me
know if you can help.

Thank you for your participation.

Shelley Kellerman Pollero, Coordinator
Gesher Galicia
(and full time high school teacher)
Severna Park, Maryland USA

Please reply to this list: <galicia@lyris.jewishgen.org>