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Re: NYC deaths #general

FEntin2385@...
 

Hello,
Go to the LDHFHL and get deaths in NYC on microfilm for those years and hunt.
I had luck with those indexes for Birth; Death and Marriage.
Also get a list of Jewish Cemetaries in the 5 boroughs and call them or write
the other way is faster. . I found my brother who died Dec. 31st 1919 at 6
weeks of age. I sent away for his Death Certificate by the # next to his name
and called the Cemetary at Mt. Hebron who sent me directions by subway and
bus and directions to the "unmarked Grave" in the children's section. I took
a picture of the plot in between two little girls. I live in Calif. I've been
back 3 times in the 5 years of Genealogy.
Good Luck, Fran Entin

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NYC deaths #general

FEntin2385@...
 

Hello,
Go to the LDHFHL and get deaths in NYC on microfilm for those years and hunt.
I had luck with those indexes for Birth; Death and Marriage.
Also get a list of Jewish Cemetaries in the 5 boroughs and call them or write
the other way is faster. . I found my brother who died Dec. 31st 1919 at 6
weeks of age. I sent away for his Death Certificate by the # next to his name
and called the Cemetary at Mt. Hebron who sent me directions by subway and
bus and directions to the "unmarked Grave" in the children's section. I took
a picture of the plot in between two little girls. I live in Calif. I've been
back 3 times in the 5 years of Genealogy.
Good Luck, Fran Entin

ALPERT family of NYC #general

Gary Gluck <gagluck@...>
 

I am searching for any descendents of Schmuel and Bella Alpert who lived in
NYC in the early part of this century.
The children that I am aware of are:
Lillian who married(married name unknown) and had a child named Howard
Barney, who was a jeweler and moved to Florida
Judy ..nothing known about her
Morris...nothing known about him..
Does this sound like anyone you know?
Gary Gluck

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ALPERT family of NYC #general

Gary Gluck <gagluck@...>
 

I am searching for any descendents of Schmuel and Bella Alpert who lived in
NYC in the early part of this century.
The children that I am aware of are:
Lillian who married(married name unknown) and had a child named Howard
Barney, who was a jeweler and moved to Florida
Judy ..nothing known about her
Morris...nothing known about him..
Does this sound like anyone you know?
Gary Gluck

Difficulties with Translating URL #general

Carol Raspler
 

Thanks to all who wrote in with suggestions and answers regarding a
URL I had found in my Bookmarks
that I couldn't interpret because it was in German. The best
suggestion came >from a personal friend
who recommended
http://babelfish.altavista.com/translate.dyn
which site did the job for me and I therefore, recommend to you all
for translations. . . A special
thanks to Myron Chijner who took time >from his own work to translate
the page in its entirety. The
URL was >from a Dutch Law School's review of war crimes cases.
Anyone interested in further
information on this site, please contact me privately.
Carol Raspler, Delray Beach, FL

what is a rabbinate? #general

Gary Gluck <gagluck@...>
 

While searching through LDS records of vital statistics in Szczuczyn,
Belarus, I came across a section called a "rabbinate".
What is this?
It appeared to be a lengthy diary.
Gary Gluck

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Difficulties with Translating URL #general

Carol Raspler
 

Thanks to all who wrote in with suggestions and answers regarding a
URL I had found in my Bookmarks
that I couldn't interpret because it was in German. The best
suggestion came >from a personal friend
who recommended
http://babelfish.altavista.com/translate.dyn
which site did the job for me and I therefore, recommend to you all
for translations. . . A special
thanks to Myron Chijner who took time >from his own work to translate
the page in its entirety. The
URL was >from a Dutch Law School's review of war crimes cases.
Anyone interested in further
information on this site, please contact me privately.
Carol Raspler, Delray Beach, FL

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen what is a rabbinate? #general

Gary Gluck <gagluck@...>
 

While searching through LDS records of vital statistics in Szczuczyn,
Belarus, I came across a section called a "rabbinate".
What is this?
It appeared to be a lengthy diary.
Gary Gluck

Re: Beider's Dictionary online #general

Curiousyl@...
 

Incidentally - since there are so many negatives - may I offer "half a
positive":
My maternal research surname was listed along with the variants - as was my
husband's surname.

However, my paternal surname could not be found on-line.
But it has appeared in other surname research sources.

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
Florida

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Beider's Dictionary online #general

Curiousyl@...
 

Incidentally - since there are so many negatives - may I offer "half a
positive":
My maternal research surname was listed along with the variants - as was my
husband's surname.

However, my paternal surname could not be found on-line.
But it has appeared in other surname research sources.

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
Florida

Kristlovska, Latvia #latvia

Peerutin, Julian <Julian_Peerutin@...>
 

Hi,

I'm trying to trace the origins of my ancestors (family name: PIRUTIN) and,
like many, have relatively little to go on, in terms of surviving
documentation.
I've recently learned that the matriarch and patriarch and their 7 children
came >from a shtetl they called 'Krislovska', Latvia apparently near Riga.
The patriarch was born there in the year 1865 and the matriarch in 1870.
The whole family picked up their things and moved to Kazan, Tartarstan,
Russia in 1914 and then later my grandfather together with his brother
moved to Vitebsk, Belarus where he married my grandmother, who originated
from Dvinsk, Latvia
According to Dictionary of Jewish Surnames in Russian Empire the name
Pirutin comes >from a village in Belarus
"Pirutin (Vitebsk, Drissa) T: >from the village Pirutino (Polotsk d.)
{Piryatin, Pirutinskij (Peratinskij, Piratinskij, Piryatinskij)}."

I've tried searching the Jewishgen 'shtetl-seeker' but Kristlovska is not
recognized and I am not sure where Kazan is as there are quite a few names
that come up.
I have found Pirutino.
Has anyone heard of these shtetls? Have I spelt them correctly? Is there a
list of Latvian shtetls with the old names against the new modern names?

Since this family name is very unusually I wonder how it comes >from the
village Pirutino when the family started out in Kristlovska, Latvia. If I
understand correctly this is about the time that the family names were being
chosen.

I would appreciate any help on this.

Thanks,

Julian Peerutin

Re: Stein, Rosenberg from Daugavpils (Dvinsk) #latvia

Irby Cohen <imclcs@...>
 

My Stein was Mayer, and I think he was b'r Chaim. I'll check to be sure.
Mayer was my gf, who emigrated to Birmingham, AL. However, I never heard,
nor asked about any siblings of his.

At 05:03 PM 09/09/00 -0400, you wrote:
I am researching Benjamin STEIN, born 1877in Daugavpils, and his wife,
Rachel ROSENBERG, born 1879 and died February 4, 1930, in Daugavpils.
Benjamin's father's name was Joseph; Rachel's father's name was Nison. The y
were married in Daugavpils, around 1898-1899.

Can anyone help with tracking down birth and marriage records, or
suggestions? Thanks!

Barry A. Schwartz
Certified Professional Geologist
American Institute of Professional Geologists


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Latvia SIG #Latvia Kristlovska, Latvia #latvia

Peerutin, Julian <Julian_Peerutin@...>
 

Hi,

I'm trying to trace the origins of my ancestors (family name: PIRUTIN) and,
like many, have relatively little to go on, in terms of surviving
documentation.
I've recently learned that the matriarch and patriarch and their 7 children
came >from a shtetl they called 'Krislovska', Latvia apparently near Riga.
The patriarch was born there in the year 1865 and the matriarch in 1870.
The whole family picked up their things and moved to Kazan, Tartarstan,
Russia in 1914 and then later my grandfather together with his brother
moved to Vitebsk, Belarus where he married my grandmother, who originated
from Dvinsk, Latvia
According to Dictionary of Jewish Surnames in Russian Empire the name
Pirutin comes >from a village in Belarus
"Pirutin (Vitebsk, Drissa) T: >from the village Pirutino (Polotsk d.)
{Piryatin, Pirutinskij (Peratinskij, Piratinskij, Piryatinskij)}."

I've tried searching the Jewishgen 'shtetl-seeker' but Kristlovska is not
recognized and I am not sure where Kazan is as there are quite a few names
that come up.
I have found Pirutino.
Has anyone heard of these shtetls? Have I spelt them correctly? Is there a
list of Latvian shtetls with the old names against the new modern names?

Since this family name is very unusually I wonder how it comes >from the
village Pirutino when the family started out in Kristlovska, Latvia. If I
understand correctly this is about the time that the family names were being
chosen.

I would appreciate any help on this.

Thanks,

Julian Peerutin

Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Stein, Rosenberg from Daugavpils (Dvinsk) #latvia

Irby Cohen <imclcs@...>
 

My Stein was Mayer, and I think he was b'r Chaim. I'll check to be sure.
Mayer was my gf, who emigrated to Birmingham, AL. However, I never heard,
nor asked about any siblings of his.

At 05:03 PM 09/09/00 -0400, you wrote:
I am researching Benjamin STEIN, born 1877in Daugavpils, and his wife,
Rachel ROSENBERG, born 1879 and died February 4, 1930, in Daugavpils.
Benjamin's father's name was Joseph; Rachel's father's name was Nison. The y
were married in Daugavpils, around 1898-1899.

Can anyone help with tracking down birth and marriage records, or
suggestions? Thanks!

Barry A. Schwartz
Certified Professional Geologist
American Institute of Professional Geologists


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The cemetery in Zdunska Wola #poland

Daniel Wagner <Cpwagner@...>
 

Dear all:

On Aug 16 Asher Aud led a group of sixty Israeli youngsters (15 to16 years =
old) to a visit in Poland. Asher is originally >from Zdunska Wola and is =
organizing such a trip every year, which includes a stopover in the =
cemetery of ZW.

Every year Asher explains the history of the town, the tragedy of the =
ghetto in 1942, and the massacre of the population in the cemetery. Among =
the Jews who were murdered were Asher's mother and younger brother.

This year I was waiting in ZW for Asher and his group. With me were =
Bernard Markowicz (whose grdparents lived in ZW) and his daughter =
Svetlana, Mr and Mrs Elizabeth Bartsch (a Polish school director in ZW), =
and others. JM Simmler (whose grdparents were >from ZW) arrived a little =
later with his parents.

The youngsters were given tools and worked in the cemetery for about 1 =BD =
hour. During that short time, they digged out 61 new tombstones, and =
deciphered the inscriptions. Since we already have a list of about 700 =
stones, their work represent a significant 10% addition. But at least as =
importantly, the children (and not only the children) were moved to tears =
by their experience in the cemetery, and by Asher's story. But Asher says =
that he will come back again and again with children, as long as he is =
able to, because his victory is the very presence of the new generation, =
those children, year after year with him in the cemetery. Asher is a =
wonderful person who should be commended for his work with the Israeli =
children.=20

There is much to be done in the cemetery.=20

One idea we discussed was to organize such a trip not during the summer =
but at Rosh Hashana, because it might then be possible to involve a group =
of high school children >from ZW, with the help of Mrs Bartsch. It is only =
a suggestion, we should ALL discuss this. It is OUR cemetery.=20

Other topics that were discussed were the ways to properly take care of =
the cemetery. Bernard made some very interesting suggestions, based on a =
research he made on how to take care of cemeteries.

Please be all in touch, we will need hands, brains, money. And goodwill.
Again, this is OUR cemetery. If we do nothing, noone else will.

Shana tova, happy new year to all.
Daniel



H Daniel Wagner=20
The Livio Norzi Professorial Chair

Weizmann Institute of Science
Tel: +(972) 8 934 2594
Fax: +(972) 8 934 4137
E-mail: daniel.wagner@...
Homepage: http://www.weizmann.ac.il/wagner/home.htm

Anyone going to Poland soon? #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

If you are going to Poland in the next few weeks, JRI-Poland would
like to hear >from you... We have some accessories for a computer
that are to be delivered to our team in Warsaw. You won't have to
go out of your way. We will arrange to pick up the package at your
hotel in Warsaw or at the airport if you are in transit.

Please email as soon as possible. Thank you.

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

JRI Poland #Poland The cemetery in Zdunska Wola #poland

Daniel Wagner <Cpwagner@...>
 

Dear all:

On Aug 16 Asher Aud led a group of sixty Israeli youngsters (15 to16 years =
old) to a visit in Poland. Asher is originally >from Zdunska Wola and is =
organizing such a trip every year, which includes a stopover in the =
cemetery of ZW.

Every year Asher explains the history of the town, the tragedy of the =
ghetto in 1942, and the massacre of the population in the cemetery. Among =
the Jews who were murdered were Asher's mother and younger brother.

This year I was waiting in ZW for Asher and his group. With me were =
Bernard Markowicz (whose grdparents lived in ZW) and his daughter =
Svetlana, Mr and Mrs Elizabeth Bartsch (a Polish school director in ZW), =
and others. JM Simmler (whose grdparents were >from ZW) arrived a little =
later with his parents.

The youngsters were given tools and worked in the cemetery for about 1 =BD =
hour. During that short time, they digged out 61 new tombstones, and =
deciphered the inscriptions. Since we already have a list of about 700 =
stones, their work represent a significant 10% addition. But at least as =
importantly, the children (and not only the children) were moved to tears =
by their experience in the cemetery, and by Asher's story. But Asher says =
that he will come back again and again with children, as long as he is =
able to, because his victory is the very presence of the new generation, =
those children, year after year with him in the cemetery. Asher is a =
wonderful person who should be commended for his work with the Israeli =
children.=20

There is much to be done in the cemetery.=20

One idea we discussed was to organize such a trip not during the summer =
but at Rosh Hashana, because it might then be possible to involve a group =
of high school children >from ZW, with the help of Mrs Bartsch. It is only =
a suggestion, we should ALL discuss this. It is OUR cemetery.=20

Other topics that were discussed were the ways to properly take care of =
the cemetery. Bernard made some very interesting suggestions, based on a =
research he made on how to take care of cemeteries.

Please be all in touch, we will need hands, brains, money. And goodwill.
Again, this is OUR cemetery. If we do nothing, noone else will.

Shana tova, happy new year to all.
Daniel



H Daniel Wagner=20
The Livio Norzi Professorial Chair

Weizmann Institute of Science
Tel: +(972) 8 934 2594
Fax: +(972) 8 934 4137
E-mail: daniel.wagner@...
Homepage: http://www.weizmann.ac.il/wagner/home.htm

JRI Poland #Poland Anyone going to Poland soon? #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

If you are going to Poland in the next few weeks, JRI-Poland would
like to hear >from you... We have some accessories for a computer
that are to be delivered to our team in Warsaw. You won't have to
go out of your way. We will arrange to pick up the package at your
hotel in Warsaw or at the airport if you are in transit.

Please email as soon as possible. Thank you.

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

Beider Online at Ancestry #general

GojuMom@...
 

For all those who have some difficulty with this site, I have a
suggestion. Since the names in Beider's book correspond with the local
spelling
(which we know have lots of variations) I suggest typing in part of a name
orusing what you believe the name means.
For example: In searching "VINNITSKII" I was unable to get a match,
but having seen the REAL book I knew that the name was in there. I tried
"wine" or "distiller" which is the root word of the name and it worked.
Beider spells "Vinnitskijj" and seveal other variations.
Another way is to type the location you are searaching for because the
surnames are given with the town and local area.
Still another way is to use the DM soundex on JGFF for
the surname you are searching...one of them may recognized by the site.
Both these methods have worked for several people who otherwise had
difficulty.
Jo Anne Vanett
Ambler, PA
Searching: VINNITSKII, ROZENBERG, BELENKY, FEINGOLD, ALTMAN,
OROWITZ/HOROWITZ/ SOLOSITSKY, HOSSMAN, GOMBERG, KRASNEY
all in the southwestern area of Ukriane, between Vinnitsa and Kiyev

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Beider Online at Ancestry #general

GojuMom@...
 

For all those who have some difficulty with this site, I have a
suggestion. Since the names in Beider's book correspond with the local
spelling
(which we know have lots of variations) I suggest typing in part of a name
orusing what you believe the name means.
For example: In searching "VINNITSKII" I was unable to get a match,
but having seen the REAL book I knew that the name was in there. I tried
"wine" or "distiller" which is the root word of the name and it worked.
Beider spells "Vinnitskijj" and seveal other variations.
Another way is to type the location you are searaching for because the
surnames are given with the town and local area.
Still another way is to use the DM soundex on JGFF for
the surname you are searching...one of them may recognized by the site.
Both these methods have worked for several people who otherwise had
difficulty.
Jo Anne Vanett
Ambler, PA
Searching: VINNITSKII, ROZENBERG, BELENKY, FEINGOLD, ALTMAN,
OROWITZ/HOROWITZ/ SOLOSITSKY, HOSSMAN, GOMBERG, KRASNEY
all in the southwestern area of Ukriane, between Vinnitsa and Kiyev