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KIEV VOLUNTEERS, ETC #ukraine

Michael L. Jaron <jaron@...>
 

Sorry for the delay, but I'm finally taking the opportunity to breath!!!

Anyway:
1 Anyone wishing to volunteer [for research on Kiev] please send me an email message at <jaron@...>!!!
2 Please make sure your email address is in the body of the message!!!
3 Let me know if you live near the New York Public Library (main) or
Harvard University!!!
4 Anyone in Israel - Please review the possible resources and let me know
what they are and possible accessibility!!!
5 Will those who have written to me before about volunteering please do so
again!!!

Your cooperation is and will be gratefully appreciated and will help me
get organized!!!!!!!!

(My personal research):
|-------------------------------------------------|
_______| FATHER'S SIDE |______
|Jurowsky/Yurovsky - Kanev/Kiev: Original family name, |
| gf's brother went to Mexico |
|Wernick - Zolotanosha/Poltava: gm'sand maiden name |
|Tolchinsky - Boguslav: Changed to Toll in Philadelphia,|
| somehow a cousin(?) |
|______________________________________________________________|
_______| MOTHER'S SIDE |______
|Makhleder - Shereshevo/Pruzhany/Belarus: |
| Name changed by immigration upon arrival, |
| ggf given Levy and brother given Marks |
|Farbman - Grodno/Belarus: gm's maiden name |
|Sigman (sp?) - Belarus(?): ggf's mother's maiden name |
|Schweitzer (sp?) - Belarus(?): gf's mother's maiden name |
|______________________________________________________________|


Todah Rabah
Mike Jaron [KIEV REGIONAL RESEARCH COORDINATOR]
jaron@...
Pittsburgh, Pa


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine KIEV VOLUNTEERS, ETC #ukraine

Michael L. Jaron <jaron@...>
 

Sorry for the delay, but I'm finally taking the opportunity to breath!!!

Anyway:
1 Anyone wishing to volunteer [for research on Kiev] please send me an email message at <jaron@...>!!!
2 Please make sure your email address is in the body of the message!!!
3 Let me know if you live near the New York Public Library (main) or
Harvard University!!!
4 Anyone in Israel - Please review the possible resources and let me know
what they are and possible accessibility!!!
5 Will those who have written to me before about volunteering please do so
again!!!

Your cooperation is and will be gratefully appreciated and will help me
get organized!!!!!!!!

(My personal research):
|-------------------------------------------------|
_______| FATHER'S SIDE |______
|Jurowsky/Yurovsky - Kanev/Kiev: Original family name, |
| gf's brother went to Mexico |
|Wernick - Zolotanosha/Poltava: gm'sand maiden name |
|Tolchinsky - Boguslav: Changed to Toll in Philadelphia,|
| somehow a cousin(?) |
|______________________________________________________________|
_______| MOTHER'S SIDE |______
|Makhleder - Shereshevo/Pruzhany/Belarus: |
| Name changed by immigration upon arrival, |
| ggf given Levy and brother given Marks |
|Farbman - Grodno/Belarus: gm's maiden name |
|Sigman (sp?) - Belarus(?): ggf's mother's maiden name |
|Schweitzer (sp?) - Belarus(?): gf's mother's maiden name |
|______________________________________________________________|


Todah Rabah
Mike Jaron [KIEV REGIONAL RESEARCH COORDINATOR]
jaron@...
Pittsburgh, Pa


Seeking Houston Obit for Sigmund FRUCHT #general

Ellen Cleary <ellencleary@...>
 

Is there anyone who can look up this obit in Houston Tx for me?

Sigmund FRUCHT died 5 June 1985

I don't need a copy of the obit, but I would like to know what it says.

Please respond privately: ellencleary@...

Ellen Barnett Cleary Kenner, Louisiana ellencleary@...


Morristown JGS? #general

BABYCAT3 <babycat3@...>
 

Does anyone out there have info on when, where and if there is a JGS in the
Morris County area of New Jersey. I attended a meeting tonight in Passaic
County and it is a long haul for me. I am hoping to find something a bit
closer. For anyone closer to Wayne, NJ, the group there is worth a visit, they
are very nice and helpfull people. It's too far for me on a regular basis.
Thanks
Barbara Meyers
babycat3@...

MODERATOR NOTE: The International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies at http://www.jewishgen.org/iajgs/ has a "Member Societies"
link. Societies are listed there by state.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking Houston Obit for Sigmund FRUCHT #general

Ellen Cleary <ellencleary@...>
 

Is there anyone who can look up this obit in Houston Tx for me?

Sigmund FRUCHT died 5 June 1985

I don't need a copy of the obit, but I would like to know what it says.

Please respond privately: ellencleary@...

Ellen Barnett Cleary Kenner, Louisiana ellencleary@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Morristown JGS? #general

BABYCAT3 <babycat3@...>
 

Does anyone out there have info on when, where and if there is a JGS in the
Morris County area of New Jersey. I attended a meeting tonight in Passaic
County and it is a long haul for me. I am hoping to find something a bit
closer. For anyone closer to Wayne, NJ, the group there is worth a visit, they
are very nice and helpfull people. It's too far for me on a regular basis.
Thanks
Barbara Meyers
babycat3@...

MODERATOR NOTE: The International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies at http://www.jewishgen.org/iajgs/ has a "Member Societies"
link. Societies are listed there by state.


Schiller family in Berdichev #ukraine

P. Gowans <p2g@...>
 

I cannot tell whether Berdichev is within this group's area of interest so I
apologise if this request is inappropriate. I have also sent it to the
Berdichev list so apologies again if you get it twice.

I am searching for Meyer (Myer) SCHILLER (Shiller) family. He is my great
grandfather, born around 1863-1865, probably in the Berdichev area. My
grandfather Louis Schiller was born in Berdichev in 1888. The family
emigrated to the US around 1888-1891. Meyer married Anna (unknown last name)
born Jan. 1870 around 1883-1885. Meyer appears as head of household on the
1900 and 1910 Censuses in Chicago, however the dates of birth, immigration,
and ages of children are all slightly different in each census.

I am new at this, but have found that most Schillers I find on the internet
come >from Germany and are not identifiably Jewish. Another group of
Schillers comes >from Poland and does seem to be Jewish. Can anyone tell me
about the Schiller surname with respect to Jews in Berdichev/Ukraine?

Thank you,

Paula Schiller Gowans

Researching
ABRAMOVITZ / ABRAMS in US -- (Bucharest) -- Chicago
SCHILLER --(Berdichev, Ukraine)-- Chicago
GINSBURG --(Romania, probably Bucharest)-- Chicago


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Schiller family in Berdichev #ukraine

P. Gowans <p2g@...>
 

I cannot tell whether Berdichev is within this group's area of interest so I
apologise if this request is inappropriate. I have also sent it to the
Berdichev list so apologies again if you get it twice.

I am searching for Meyer (Myer) SCHILLER (Shiller) family. He is my great
grandfather, born around 1863-1865, probably in the Berdichev area. My
grandfather Louis Schiller was born in Berdichev in 1888. The family
emigrated to the US around 1888-1891. Meyer married Anna (unknown last name)
born Jan. 1870 around 1883-1885. Meyer appears as head of household on the
1900 and 1910 Censuses in Chicago, however the dates of birth, immigration,
and ages of children are all slightly different in each census.

I am new at this, but have found that most Schillers I find on the internet
come >from Germany and are not identifiably Jewish. Another group of
Schillers comes >from Poland and does seem to be Jewish. Can anyone tell me
about the Schiller surname with respect to Jews in Berdichev/Ukraine?

Thank you,

Paula Schiller Gowans

Researching
ABRAMOVITZ / ABRAMS in US -- (Bucharest) -- Chicago
SCHILLER --(Berdichev, Ukraine)-- Chicago
GINSBURG --(Romania, probably Bucharest)-- Chicago


Re: Enschede Netherlands #general

Arjeh van der Sluis <vandersluiscdn@...>
 

Good day.

In answer to your question.

Yes, there were Jewish refugees >from German in Holland. They were in
Enschede, Oldenzaal, Borne etc. In general though, these refugees went to
Amsterdam and Rotterdam and then to the other destinations overseas.
Enschede, Borne, Oldenzaal all border Germany (10Km >from the Border).
There are other cities and towns as well.

They went to Holland because Holland was neutral in WWI and it was widely
believed that Holland would remain so in any other future conflicts.
Unfortunately this was not to be so as Hitler regarded Dutchmen as members
of the Germanic race (Common Language Elements), and invaded anyway. Any
German or other Jews (Anne Frank) seeking refuge in Holland suffered the
same fate as the Dutch Jews. Outside Polland, the Highest number of Jews
Murdered in the War was in Holland.

Before the out break of the war Some of individuals went back to Germany
never to be heard of again. My Grand Father was involved in the movement
of these people >from German to Holland. This movemnet ofcourse included
the movement of assets, as these were not allowed out of Germany and
therefor had to be smuggled.

If you have any more questions let me know. I will try to answer them or I
will refer you to those who do.

To continue your search go to the foloowing sites:

http://jodendom.pagina.nl/

http://www.nljewgen.org/

http://www.sisanit.com/ajalah/news/index.html

http://www.cbg.nl/

http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~dutchjew/home.html

Regards,

Arjeh van der Sluis CD BSc.
Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
mailto:vandersluiscdn@...
http://home.ica.net/~vandersluiscdn/arjeh.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: "ardis." <ameyer1@...>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 18:08
Subject: Enschede Netherlands


Dear Genners,
Can anyone tell me if there was a Jewish community in Enschede Netherlands
(Holland) during the war years? I recently received a note >from a cousin
that said one of my grandmother's sisters escaped Germany and took her
family to Enschede. Since this new information to me, I need to know how
to start my search in this area. Suggestions please.
Thank you,
Ardis Meyer
Two Harbors, MN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Enschede Netherlands #general

Arjeh van der Sluis <vandersluiscdn@...>
 

Good day.

In answer to your question.

Yes, there were Jewish refugees >from German in Holland. They were in
Enschede, Oldenzaal, Borne etc. In general though, these refugees went to
Amsterdam and Rotterdam and then to the other destinations overseas.
Enschede, Borne, Oldenzaal all border Germany (10Km >from the Border).
There are other cities and towns as well.

They went to Holland because Holland was neutral in WWI and it was widely
believed that Holland would remain so in any other future conflicts.
Unfortunately this was not to be so as Hitler regarded Dutchmen as members
of the Germanic race (Common Language Elements), and invaded anyway. Any
German or other Jews (Anne Frank) seeking refuge in Holland suffered the
same fate as the Dutch Jews. Outside Polland, the Highest number of Jews
Murdered in the War was in Holland.

Before the out break of the war Some of individuals went back to Germany
never to be heard of again. My Grand Father was involved in the movement
of these people >from German to Holland. This movemnet ofcourse included
the movement of assets, as these were not allowed out of Germany and
therefor had to be smuggled.

If you have any more questions let me know. I will try to answer them or I
will refer you to those who do.

To continue your search go to the foloowing sites:

http://jodendom.pagina.nl/

http://www.nljewgen.org/

http://www.sisanit.com/ajalah/news/index.html

http://www.cbg.nl/

http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~dutchjew/home.html

Regards,

Arjeh van der Sluis CD BSc.
Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
mailto:vandersluiscdn@...
http://home.ica.net/~vandersluiscdn/arjeh.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: "ardis." <ameyer1@...>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 18:08
Subject: Enschede Netherlands


Dear Genners,
Can anyone tell me if there was a Jewish community in Enschede Netherlands
(Holland) during the war years? I recently received a note >from a cousin
that said one of my grandmother's sisters escaped Germany and took her
family to Enschede. Since this new information to me, I need to know how
to start my search in this area. Suggestions please.
Thank you,
Ardis Meyer
Two Harbors, MN


Searching in Romania #general

Mimi Katz <geveretk@...>
 

Since there are no Mormon files for Romania, I'd like to know if
there are Jewish records >from prior to 1900 that have survived,
and if so, has anyone had success in obtaining them without hiring
a researcher? I'm particularly interested in what's available
from Iasi.
--
Please do not reply to sender. My email address has been altered to avoid
spam. The correct email address is written below:

Mimi Katz
GeveretK@...


Translation of letter from Poland #general

edblo@...
 

I recently received a letter >from the archivist in Warsaw. This was in
response to my enquiry relating to family members who lived in
Druskininkai.

I would of course like this letter (one page) translated, and would
appreciate the assistance of anyone who can do this for me.

Edmond Bloch
ebloch@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching in Romania #general

Mimi Katz <geveretk@...>
 

Since there are no Mormon files for Romania, I'd like to know if
there are Jewish records >from prior to 1900 that have survived,
and if so, has anyone had success in obtaining them without hiring
a researcher? I'm particularly interested in what's available
from Iasi.
--
Please do not reply to sender. My email address has been altered to avoid
spam. The correct email address is written below:

Mimi Katz
GeveretK@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translation of letter from Poland #general

edblo@...
 

I recently received a letter >from the archivist in Warsaw. This was in
response to my enquiry relating to family members who lived in
Druskininkai.

I would of course like this letter (one page) translated, and would
appreciate the assistance of anyone who can do this for me.

Edmond Bloch
ebloch@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Searching for GLATTSTEIN from Lvov; SELIGMAN, PARNES, TENNENBAUM #galicia

Bill & Renee Stevens <brstevens@...>
 

My father, Zygmund GLATTSTEIN was born in Lvov (then Lemberg) in 1896. His
parents were Schlomo Shimon (Szymon) GLATTSTEIN ben Israel and Rachel WOLF
bat Dorf. We do not have birth locations for his parents.

My mother, Leona SELIGMAN was born in Velikiye Mosty in 1903. Her parents
were Isaac SELIGMAN of Velikiye Mosty and Nesia TENNENBAUM. Nesia's parents
were David PARNES and Sheva TENNENBAUM. They were living in Nieznanow in
the 1880s.

Any information about these surnames would be greatly appreciated.

Renee Glattstein Stevens
Bethesda, MD, USA
<brstevens@...>


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Searching for GLATTSTEIN from Lvov; SELIGMAN, PARNES, TENNENBAUM #galicia

Bill & Renee Stevens <brstevens@...>
 

My father, Zygmund GLATTSTEIN was born in Lvov (then Lemberg) in 1896. His
parents were Schlomo Shimon (Szymon) GLATTSTEIN ben Israel and Rachel WOLF
bat Dorf. We do not have birth locations for his parents.

My mother, Leona SELIGMAN was born in Velikiye Mosty in 1903. Her parents
were Isaac SELIGMAN of Velikiye Mosty and Nesia TENNENBAUM. Nesia's parents
were David PARNES and Sheva TENNENBAUM. They were living in Nieznanow in
the 1880s.

Any information about these surnames would be greatly appreciated.

Renee Glattstein Stevens
Bethesda, MD, USA
<brstevens@...>


Re: Help! Need to find a person in Australia #lodz #poland

Seflaum@...
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I would like to thank everyone very much who responded to the message
requesting help. The individual has been located and Victor Breitberg is
being reunited with cousins in Melbourne after over 50 years! All are
survivors of the Lodz ghetto. This is a wonderful story, which I hope
Victor will share with us in the near future.

Sincerely,
Shirley Rotbein Flaum
Houston, Texas

Original message:
<<
A newly found relative in Australia has contacted one of our subscribers by
email, but all of his attempts to email that person back have bounced. We do
not know the city or state in which this individual lives, but we do know
that her father was born in Belchatow and he is a survivor of the Lodz
ghetto.

If you can help locate someone in Australia, please email one of us, and we
will give you the details.

Victor Breitberg, victorsb@...
Shirley Flaum, seflaum@...

>>


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Re: Help! Need to find a person in Australia #lodz #poland

Seflaum@...
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I would like to thank everyone very much who responded to the message
requesting help. The individual has been located and Victor Breitberg is
being reunited with cousins in Melbourne after over 50 years! All are
survivors of the Lodz ghetto. This is a wonderful story, which I hope
Victor will share with us in the near future.

Sincerely,
Shirley Rotbein Flaum
Houston, Texas

Original message:
<<
A newly found relative in Australia has contacted one of our subscribers by
email, but all of his attempts to email that person back have bounced. We do
not know the city or state in which this individual lives, but we do know
that her father was born in Belchatow and he is a survivor of the Lodz
ghetto.

If you can help locate someone in Australia, please email one of us, and we
will give you the details.

Victor Breitberg, victorsb@...
Shirley Flaum, seflaum@...

>>


Cemetery Project and FTJP #general

Alan H. Rosen
 

I understand that there was an updated version of the Cemetery Project of
the IAJGS. How can I obtain it? Also is there an update to the Family
Tree of the Jewish People?


Thanks,

Alan Rosen


Alan H. Rosen <rachelkin@...>
Carmel, California

MODERATOR NOTE: General infomation about both can be found
at http://www.jewishgen.org/


Re: A Problem with Dates #general

Art Hoffman <arthh@...>
 

"Don Einbinder" <donjein@...> wrote in message
news:39EE5324.3280B5C6@......
Not knowing much about my mgf, Harry BARASCH, I went to the National
Archives in Pittsfield, MA. There, in the Brooklyn, NY census of
1920, I found the family and all the information listed alongside.
It said that he arrived in the US in 1909, and the rest of the family
in1911. While there, I found the petition numbers for his
naturalization and that of an aunt and uncle. I then sent for the
papers and they arrived today.

The petition says that he arrived in 1907, and an attached certificate
from the bureau of naturalization confirms 1907. Other dates on the
petition, such as children's birthdates, are wrong.
Frequently parents in those days added years to their children's real
age so that the children could get working permits sooner. I know that
was true for my father who was 10 in 1906 when he arrived in the US,
according to the ship manifest. When my grandfather filed a Declaration
of Intention in 1909, my father's age became 16 which I believe was the
minimum age for working papers at that time.


So, what do I believe, the census or the petition?
Both the census and the petition are what are called secondary
documents. There is no verification of the accuracy of census
information. It may very well have been given to the census taker by a
neighbor if your parents were not home when the census taker knocked on
their door. The petition's accuracy as to ages of children would have
depended upon who completed the Petition. There was no verification of
age by comparison to a birth certificate. So, believe whichever one you
want unless you have primary documents such as birth certificates
available.