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Mollova #general

bandeklein@...
 

I have been following the Mogilev discussion because of abranch I am
researching. My husband's grandfather listed Mollova, Ukraine as his
birthplace on the 1920 census. For years people told me that must be
Mogilev, Belarus. I never believed this and always felt he was from
closer to Romania and Moldova. My husband's aunt died recently and in
her papers they found his Naturalization Certificate. It list Mollova,
Podalia, Russia as his place of birth. I still haven't fpund the town on
a map but I now know that Mollova is not Mogilev in Belarus.

Elinor Klein
<bandeklein@juno.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mollova #general

bandeklein@...
 

I have been following the Mogilev discussion because of abranch I am
researching. My husband's grandfather listed Mollova, Ukraine as his
birthplace on the 1920 census. For years people told me that must be
Mogilev, Belarus. I never believed this and always felt he was from
closer to Romania and Moldova. My husband's aunt died recently and in
her papers they found his Naturalization Certificate. It list Mollova,
Podalia, Russia as his place of birth. I still haven't fpund the town on
a map but I now know that Mollova is not Mogilev in Belarus.

Elinor Klein
<bandeklein@juno.com>


searching for a good book of maps #general

Saul Goldstone <sgoldsto@...>
 

JewishGeners,

A while ago I was recommended to the following book of maps:

"Historical Atlas of East Central Europe by Paul Robert Magocsi"

It apparently shows what happened to the boundaries of the countries of
East Central Europe over the past centuries. Although it is listed by
[commercial reference deleted],they have just informed me that it is no
longer available.

Can someone recommend an alternate?

Thanks,
Saul Goldstone
Saratoga, CA
sgoldsto@ix.netcom.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen searching for a good book of maps #general

Saul Goldstone <sgoldsto@...>
 

JewishGeners,

A while ago I was recommended to the following book of maps:

"Historical Atlas of East Central Europe by Paul Robert Magocsi"

It apparently shows what happened to the boundaries of the countries of
East Central Europe over the past centuries. Although it is listed by
[commercial reference deleted],they have just informed me that it is no
longer available.

Can someone recommend an alternate?

Thanks,
Saul Goldstone
Saratoga, CA
sgoldsto@ix.netcom.com


Re: Success with an Indifferent Relative #general

ctf-vif@...
 

I do not wish to dispute this helpful hint >from Marion Price. One thing to
consider, though, is how would you feel if some stranger suddenly
telephoned you and claimed to be a relative? In this age of identity
stealing, people are wise to not trust too much too quickly.

Of course, the situation is very different when a relative knows that you
are a relative and simply refuses to cooperate.

Vicki Ina Friedman
Acworth, GA, USA
ctf-vif@mindspring.com

Researching: BECK, CHORNEY, DUBIN, FRIEDMAN, LENETT, HOFFMAN,
KORLAND/KURLAND, KROMHOLTZ/KRUMHOLTZ, RECHMAN, SCHECH/SCHECK, SCHIFF,
SKLOFF, THURLIN, ZEIDELMAN

-----Original Message-----
From: Bobmar37@aol.com <Bobmar37@aol.com>
To: JewishGen Discussion Group <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 10:06 PM
Subject: Success with an Indifferent Relative


Several years ago another genner told me about a woman she met who came
from Germany and has family >from the same town that I do. She now lives in
a small town in Louisiana, one that we have stopped in for lunch when
travelling.
[snip]

Marian Price
Round Rock, TX


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Success with an Indifferent Relative #general

ctf-vif@...
 

I do not wish to dispute this helpful hint >from Marion Price. One thing to
consider, though, is how would you feel if some stranger suddenly
telephoned you and claimed to be a relative? In this age of identity
stealing, people are wise to not trust too much too quickly.

Of course, the situation is very different when a relative knows that you
are a relative and simply refuses to cooperate.

Vicki Ina Friedman
Acworth, GA, USA
ctf-vif@mindspring.com

Researching: BECK, CHORNEY, DUBIN, FRIEDMAN, LENETT, HOFFMAN,
KORLAND/KURLAND, KROMHOLTZ/KRUMHOLTZ, RECHMAN, SCHECH/SCHECK, SCHIFF,
SKLOFF, THURLIN, ZEIDELMAN

-----Original Message-----
From: Bobmar37@aol.com <Bobmar37@aol.com>
To: JewishGen Discussion Group <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 10:06 PM
Subject: Success with an Indifferent Relative


Several years ago another genner told me about a woman she met who came
from Germany and has family >from the same town that I do. She now lives in
a small town in Louisiana, one that we have stopped in for lunch when
travelling.
[snip]

Marian Price
Round Rock, TX


Need help with the Hamburg Emigration website #general

Morton Cohen <cohenme@...>
 

After searching the Archives it seems the form of searchable fields at the
Hamburg Website have been changed since I visited some months ago,

My most recent search produced a "hit" that might have been my gm Sara
Rabinowitz. However the name is not rare and one would look to the "other
fields" for supporting data. In this case the record found indicates "Yes"
in the field identified as "Family Members". I find no explanation of
whether that means she is traveling with family member or is to be met by
family members. I assumed the former and tried, without success to
identify a passenger who might match up with my gf. I would welcome
suggestions of how one might clarify the Family Member question.

Similarly the record gives "Place of Residence" as Kovno which fits but,
unless there is another search form, it appears that the ability to search
based on that field is no longer presented. Is there another search
approach and if so how is it accessed?
TIA


Brenner-Fleischman from Ponevezh-Shavli Lithuania #general

Sharon Fleischman <adjusterbob@...>
 

I am searching family names Brenner and Fleischman >from the areas around
Ligum and Pokroi Lithuania


Robert Fleischman
adjusterbob@worldnet.att.net
Miami Beach, Fl.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need help with the Hamburg Emigration website #general

Morton Cohen <cohenme@...>
 

After searching the Archives it seems the form of searchable fields at the
Hamburg Website have been changed since I visited some months ago,

My most recent search produced a "hit" that might have been my gm Sara
Rabinowitz. However the name is not rare and one would look to the "other
fields" for supporting data. In this case the record found indicates "Yes"
in the field identified as "Family Members". I find no explanation of
whether that means she is traveling with family member or is to be met by
family members. I assumed the former and tried, without success to
identify a passenger who might match up with my gf. I would welcome
suggestions of how one might clarify the Family Member question.

Similarly the record gives "Place of Residence" as Kovno which fits but,
unless there is another search form, it appears that the ability to search
based on that field is no longer presented. Is there another search
approach and if so how is it accessed?
TIA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Brenner-Fleischman from Ponevezh-Shavli Lithuania #general

Sharon Fleischman <adjusterbob@...>
 

I am searching family names Brenner and Fleischman >from the areas around
Ligum and Pokroi Lithuania


Robert Fleischman
adjusterbob@worldnet.att.net
Miami Beach, Fl.


Announcing ShtetlSchleppers 2001 Schedules #lithuania

Paul W. Ginsburg <pginsburg@...>
 

Can you remember what you did when you first discovered the name of your
ancestral shtetl? Did you try to find it on a map, or did you know to go
right to JewishGen's Shtetlseeker where lo and behold, there it was with a
star marking the exact location. You may have looked at that spot over and
over and began to dream about going there yourself someday. If that has been your dream, it can become reality. JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers can take you there.

Let 2001 be the year when you will actually visit that shtetl of your
ancestry, walk in the footsteps of your parents, your grandparents, your
great grand parents . As the Talmudic saying goes..."if not now, when? Let
this be the year that "when" becomes "now".

Explore the itineraries which take you to a hub city, provide the best in
touring sites of Jewish interest, introduce you to local leaders and then,
with your own private guide/driver/translator, really **live** the dream.
visit the place where your family originated. To get a better idea of making this work for you..
<http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/>.

And what about London2001, the International Summer Seminar?

Whether your plans include visiting before or after, but definitely 'in
conjunction with' London2001, the International Jewish Genealogy Summer
Seminar, be sure to sign up early . You will not only be sure of reserving
space, but most importantly you'll allow plenty of time for productive
pre-research.

The plans and schedules for London2001 are now online and linked >from the
JewishGen home page. It's a tremendous program with more than enough to meet every interest. Have you looked, have you made your conference or hotel reservation? Before you make your airline reservations, come and take a look at http://www.jewishgen.org/London2001/travel.htm

With advance planning and some smooth scheduling on the part of Joanna
Fletcher, JewishGen's ShtetlSchlepper Travel Manager it may be possible to
include London in the flight package for a pre- or post- conference
ShtetlSchlepper package enabling savings on airfares.

Finally, to accommodate those who have either already visited their
ancestral origins or have not yet reached that point in their research to
take that step, ShtetlSchleppers has created two or three-country cultural
tours where you can visit Prague & Vienna, or Prague, Vienna & Budapest, all three known for their breathtaking architecture and rich in Jewish history. It's all online awaiting your visit.
-scheduled group departures,
-customized independent travel,
-two or three country cultural tours, and finally
- favorable air fares >from most cities to London2001

So whatever your dreams, whatever your travel interests may be in
conjunction with the London conference, Let JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers take
you there!

http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/

Paul W. Ginsburg
ShtetlSchleppers Project Manager
pginsburg@jewishgen.org


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Announcing ShtetlSchleppers 2001 Schedules #lithuania

Paul W. Ginsburg <pginsburg@...>
 

Can you remember what you did when you first discovered the name of your
ancestral shtetl? Did you try to find it on a map, or did you know to go
right to JewishGen's Shtetlseeker where lo and behold, there it was with a
star marking the exact location. You may have looked at that spot over and
over and began to dream about going there yourself someday. If that has been your dream, it can become reality. JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers can take you there.

Let 2001 be the year when you will actually visit that shtetl of your
ancestry, walk in the footsteps of your parents, your grandparents, your
great grand parents . As the Talmudic saying goes..."if not now, when? Let
this be the year that "when" becomes "now".

Explore the itineraries which take you to a hub city, provide the best in
touring sites of Jewish interest, introduce you to local leaders and then,
with your own private guide/driver/translator, really **live** the dream.
visit the place where your family originated. To get a better idea of making this work for you..
<http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/>.

And what about London2001, the International Summer Seminar?

Whether your plans include visiting before or after, but definitely 'in
conjunction with' London2001, the International Jewish Genealogy Summer
Seminar, be sure to sign up early . You will not only be sure of reserving
space, but most importantly you'll allow plenty of time for productive
pre-research.

The plans and schedules for London2001 are now online and linked >from the
JewishGen home page. It's a tremendous program with more than enough to meet every interest. Have you looked, have you made your conference or hotel reservation? Before you make your airline reservations, come and take a look at http://www.jewishgen.org/London2001/travel.htm

With advance planning and some smooth scheduling on the part of Joanna
Fletcher, JewishGen's ShtetlSchlepper Travel Manager it may be possible to
include London in the flight package for a pre- or post- conference
ShtetlSchlepper package enabling savings on airfares.

Finally, to accommodate those who have either already visited their
ancestral origins or have not yet reached that point in their research to
take that step, ShtetlSchleppers has created two or three-country cultural
tours where you can visit Prague & Vienna, or Prague, Vienna & Budapest, all three known for their breathtaking architecture and rich in Jewish history. It's all online awaiting your visit.
-scheduled group departures,
-customized independent travel,
-two or three country cultural tours, and finally
- favorable air fares >from most cities to London2001

So whatever your dreams, whatever your travel interests may be in
conjunction with the London conference, Let JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers take
you there!

http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/

Paul W. Ginsburg
ShtetlSchleppers Project Manager
pginsburg@jewishgen.org


Re: The given name Leyb (Leib) #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Postscript:

on the subject of Aryeh-Leib, I meant of course in Jewish subcultures that
do not customarily name a child after a living parent. That wouldn't be a
problem among West European Jews in the first place!

Judith


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The given name Leyb (Leib) #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Postscript:

on the subject of Aryeh-Leib, I meant of course in Jewish subcultures that
do not customarily name a child after a living parent. That wouldn't be a
problem among West European Jews in the first place!

Judith


Re: The given name Leyb (Leib) #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@uol.com.br> wrote
<<What kind of name is Leyb and how it relates to Yehuda?
I have heard that Yehuda and Leib are kinui or go together.. But if that
were so, would a man named Leib call his son Judah?
Irwin Jacob Schiffres

That's an interesting question, but I don't see that it would actually be
precluded, as they are not the same name. To my mind, it would be
different with a name like Aryeh-Leib, which is also a very common
combination. I can't see a man named Aryeh calling his son Leib (or vice
versa) since these really are the same name, being respectively Hebrew and
Yiddish for "lion."

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The given name Leyb (Leib) #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@uol.com.br> wrote
<<What kind of name is Leyb and how it relates to Yehuda?
I have heard that Yehuda and Leib are kinui or go together.. But if that
were so, would a man named Leib call his son Judah?
Irwin Jacob Schiffres

That's an interesting question, but I don't see that it would actually be
precluded, as they are not the same name. To my mind, it would be
different with a name like Aryeh-Leib, which is also a very common
combination. I can't see a man named Aryeh calling his son Leib (or vice
versa) since these really are the same name, being respectively Hebrew and
Yiddish for "lion."

Judith Romney Wegner


Libau #lithuania

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 


Subject: Family name GRUPEL in LIBAU
I think you are barking up the wrong tree. Libau is in Latvia.


Martha Lev-Zion <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il>
Researching: FELDMANN, [Goldingen, Latvia]
LEVINSON, [Goldingen, Latvia]
LIEBERTHAL, HIM[M]ELHOCH [Latvia, worldwide]
POTZDAMMER, [Latvia, worldwide]
ROTHSCHILD [Bruck and Altenschoenbach, Franconia, Bavaria]
BERNET, HIMMELREICH [Frensdorf, Bamberg, Franconia, Bavaria]
STRAUS[S] [Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany]


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Libau #lithuania

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 


Subject: Family name GRUPEL in LIBAU
I think you are barking up the wrong tree. Libau is in Latvia.


Martha Lev-Zion <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il>
Researching: FELDMANN, [Goldingen, Latvia]
LEVINSON, [Goldingen, Latvia]
LIEBERTHAL, HIM[M]ELHOCH [Latvia, worldwide]
POTZDAMMER, [Latvia, worldwide]
ROTHSCHILD [Bruck and Altenschoenbach, Franconia, Bavaria]
BERNET, HIMMELREICH [Frensdorf, Bamberg, Franconia, Bavaria]
STRAUS[S] [Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany]


"Jews of Lithuania" web site from Lithuania #lithuania

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

'Jews are autochthons in Lithuania.' This I learn >from the "Jews of
Lithuania" web site sponsored by George Soros' "Open Society Fund
Lithuania".

I haven't seen this web site publicized too much so I thought I would inform the group of what can be found. There are six categories with subheadings which I have listed below copied directly >from the web site with spelling errors intact. The English is a bit stilted as for example: "University students organized uproarious anti-Semitic demonstrations".

There are images and recordings that may be of interest to Litvak researchers so I recommend taking a look. Be patient, it takes a while for pages to load. The web site is at:http://litvakai.mch.mii.lt/index.en.htm

*Vilnius – Jerusalem of Lithuania
"VILNER TROUPE"
PUBLIC ORGANIZATIONS
PROMINENT PERSONALITIES
SCIENTIFIC INSTITUTIONS (with a special page for YIVO where you can hear a
fragment >from the poem "Vilna" by a Vilna poet
Moishe Kulbak. In Yiddish.)

*The past
THE PRIVILEGE OF VYTAUTAS THE GREAT
JEWISH SHTETL
RUSSIFICATION
FIGHTS FOR INDEPENDENCE
NATIONAL AUTONOMY
AFTER THE 1926 COUP D'ETAT
THE SYSTEM OF EDUCATION
ANTI-SEMITISM
THE SOVIETIZATION OF LITHUANIA
CULTURAL RESISTANCE DURING THE HOLOCAUST

*Language
JEWS LANGUAGES
HEBREW LANGUAGE (Where you can hear a poem by the great Jewish poet Chajim
Nachman Bialik "Lo bajom velo balailia" ("Neither in the day, nor in the
night") in Hebrew.)
YIDDISH LANGUAGE (same as YIVO page)

*Religious tradition
LITVAKS
PRAYER AND LITURGY (Where you can hear the world famous cantor >from Vilnius
Moishe Kusevitski performs the News Year's prayer "Avinu Malkeinu")
RELIGIOUS EDUCATION
HOLYDAYS
RABBINICAL WORKS
THE GAON OF VILNA
OTHER PROMINENT RABBIS

*Synagogues
THE LAWS ON CONSTRUCTION OF SYNAGOGUES
THE PECULIARITIES OF THE ARCHITECTURE OF SYNAGOGUES
THE GREAT SYNGOGUE IN VILNIUS
THE ARCHITECTURE OF SINAGOGUES IN THE PERIOD OF BAROQUE AND CLASSICISM
SYNAGOGUES IN THE AGE OF HISTORICISM

*The revival of culture
STATE CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS
JEWISH ART
THE ENLIVENING OF CULTURAL HERITAGE
CULTIVATING CULTURAL HERITAGE

Steven Weiss
Chicago
VOLK, SCHWARTZBERG >from Kovno Guberniya


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania "Jews of Lithuania" web site from Lithuania #lithuania

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

'Jews are autochthons in Lithuania.' This I learn >from the "Jews of
Lithuania" web site sponsored by George Soros' "Open Society Fund
Lithuania".

I haven't seen this web site publicized too much so I thought I would inform the group of what can be found. There are six categories with subheadings which I have listed below copied directly >from the web site with spelling errors intact. The English is a bit stilted as for example: "University students organized uproarious anti-Semitic demonstrations".

There are images and recordings that may be of interest to Litvak researchers so I recommend taking a look. Be patient, it takes a while for pages to load. The web site is at:http://litvakai.mch.mii.lt/index.en.htm

*Vilnius – Jerusalem of Lithuania
"VILNER TROUPE"
PUBLIC ORGANIZATIONS
PROMINENT PERSONALITIES
SCIENTIFIC INSTITUTIONS (with a special page for YIVO where you can hear a
fragment >from the poem "Vilna" by a Vilna poet
Moishe Kulbak. In Yiddish.)

*The past
THE PRIVILEGE OF VYTAUTAS THE GREAT
JEWISH SHTETL
RUSSIFICATION
FIGHTS FOR INDEPENDENCE
NATIONAL AUTONOMY
AFTER THE 1926 COUP D'ETAT
THE SYSTEM OF EDUCATION
ANTI-SEMITISM
THE SOVIETIZATION OF LITHUANIA
CULTURAL RESISTANCE DURING THE HOLOCAUST

*Language
JEWS LANGUAGES
HEBREW LANGUAGE (Where you can hear a poem by the great Jewish poet Chajim
Nachman Bialik "Lo bajom velo balailia" ("Neither in the day, nor in the
night") in Hebrew.)
YIDDISH LANGUAGE (same as YIVO page)

*Religious tradition
LITVAKS
PRAYER AND LITURGY (Where you can hear the world famous cantor >from Vilnius
Moishe Kusevitski performs the News Year's prayer "Avinu Malkeinu")
RELIGIOUS EDUCATION
HOLYDAYS
RABBINICAL WORKS
THE GAON OF VILNA
OTHER PROMINENT RABBIS

*Synagogues
THE LAWS ON CONSTRUCTION OF SYNAGOGUES
THE PECULIARITIES OF THE ARCHITECTURE OF SYNAGOGUES
THE GREAT SYNGOGUE IN VILNIUS
THE ARCHITECTURE OF SINAGOGUES IN THE PERIOD OF BAROQUE AND CLASSICISM
SYNAGOGUES IN THE AGE OF HISTORICISM

*The revival of culture
STATE CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS
JEWISH ART
THE ENLIVENING OF CULTURAL HERITAGE
CULTIVATING CULTURAL HERITAGE

Steven Weiss
Chicago
VOLK, SCHWARTZBERG >from Kovno Guberniya