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New Krakow Project #poland

Judy Wolkovitch <judywolk@...>
 

There have been a number of inquiries regarding the name Krakow 'Liberal'
Synagogue. The word Liberal does not have the same connotation as the word
does today and we have removed it >from the title. The new list of records
include the orthodox families and in fact there are many records for my
Horowitz family among whom were many orthodox Rabbonim.

When the project is complete we will have indeces to over 25,000 (yes twenty
five thousand) records and the indeces themselves give a great deal of
information. They include the names of the brides and grooms and their
parents, the towns >from which they came and in most cases the maiden names
of the mothers. Also, don't forget that the records go up to 1939! Please
check the web site:

http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/jri-jhi.htm

for further details.

Judy Wolkovitch
Krakow Town Leader


Plawno, Poland (near Radomsko) #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

After a year of effort, I have finally managed to get a copy
of this document:

Plawno, Poland (near Radomsko)
"A List of Jews aged between 20 and 24, 1867-73"

The good news is that the information is tremendous--dozens
of pages of names, and extensive family information for each
person! The bad news is that the copy I have is nearly
unreadable. (I can read about a third of the entries.)

If you have family >from Plawno, and are interested in this
particular document let me know!

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK
Ukraine: OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN, LISS, SOBLE-SOBEL, STEIN, AXMAN
from Istanbul: KAZEZ-KAZES, ALHADEF-ELHADEF, FRESKO-FRESCO, HABIB
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


Records from Warshaw archive, 5 months? #poland

Kirsten Gradel <kmgradel@...>
 

End of June I ordered a record >from Warshaw, name found in the PSA
indexing. Letter and check $10 received and duly acknowleged by Main
Archive mid July. When I hadn't received anything by 20 Sept. I wrote
again to Main Archive, they responded quickly and as far as I can make
out (Polish) they had asked the district archive to expedite the matter
and ask me to let them know when I receive the record.

Still havn't got it - is 5 months a normal delay? Should I pester them
again, maybe directly to the district archive?

Kirsten Gradel, Denmark


JRI Poland #Poland New Krakow Project #poland

Judy Wolkovitch <judywolk@...>
 

There have been a number of inquiries regarding the name Krakow 'Liberal'
Synagogue. The word Liberal does not have the same connotation as the word
does today and we have removed it >from the title. The new list of records
include the orthodox families and in fact there are many records for my
Horowitz family among whom were many orthodox Rabbonim.

When the project is complete we will have indeces to over 25,000 (yes twenty
five thousand) records and the indeces themselves give a great deal of
information. They include the names of the brides and grooms and their
parents, the towns >from which they came and in most cases the maiden names
of the mothers. Also, don't forget that the records go up to 1939! Please
check the web site:

http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/jri-jhi.htm

for further details.

Judy Wolkovitch
Krakow Town Leader


JRI Poland #Poland Plawno, Poland (near Radomsko) #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

After a year of effort, I have finally managed to get a copy
of this document:

Plawno, Poland (near Radomsko)
"A List of Jews aged between 20 and 24, 1867-73"

The good news is that the information is tremendous--dozens
of pages of names, and extensive family information for each
person! The bad news is that the copy I have is nearly
unreadable. (I can read about a third of the entries.)

If you have family >from Plawno, and are interested in this
particular document let me know!

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK
Ukraine: OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN, LISS, SOBLE-SOBEL, STEIN, AXMAN
from Istanbul: KAZEZ-KAZES, ALHADEF-ELHADEF, FRESKO-FRESCO, HABIB
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


JRI Poland #Poland Records from Warshaw archive, 5 months? #poland

Kirsten Gradel <kmgradel@...>
 

End of June I ordered a record >from Warshaw, name found in the PSA
indexing. Letter and check $10 received and duly acknowleged by Main
Archive mid July. When I hadn't received anything by 20 Sept. I wrote
again to Main Archive, they responded quickly and as far as I can make
out (Polish) they had asked the district archive to expedite the matter
and ask me to let them know when I receive the record.

Still havn't got it - is 5 months a normal delay? Should I pester them
again, maybe directly to the district archive?

Kirsten Gradel, Denmark


Help on Polish name #poland

Rita Ashley Fishman <ritafishman@...>
 

Can someone tell me what Charles might be in Polish? I got my
father-in-laws social security application and it shows his father as
Charles FISHMAN. I doubt that this was his name in Lodz. Any help is
appreciated.



Rita Ashley Fishman
Phoenix, Arizona
ritafishman@...


JRI Poland #Poland Help on Polish name #poland

Rita Ashley Fishman <ritafishman@...>
 

Can someone tell me what Charles might be in Polish? I got my
father-in-laws social security application and it shows his father as
Charles FISHMAN. I doubt that this was his name in Lodz. Any help is
appreciated.



Rita Ashley Fishman
Phoenix, Arizona
ritafishman@...


Pages from Plawno (Poland) document #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Quite a few people have been writing me to ask about this
document:

Plawno, Poland (near Radomsko)
"A List of Jews aged between 20 and 24, 1867-73"

I got a copy of this >from the Central Archives for the History
of the Jewish People (in Jerusalem).

I have placed sample pages of this document here:

http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/1022Pla/

In particular, here are 2 cover pages:

http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/1022Pla/PlaCov1-72.jpg
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/1022Pla/PlaCov2-72.jpg

And here are 2 sample pages (for the same person)

http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/1022Pla/ExA-72sm.jpg
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/1022Pla/ExB-72sm.jpg

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Chicago / Philadelphia / Bronx / New York / Los Angeles
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


JRI Poland #Poland Pages from Plawno (Poland) document #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Quite a few people have been writing me to ask about this
document:

Plawno, Poland (near Radomsko)
"A List of Jews aged between 20 and 24, 1867-73"

I got a copy of this >from the Central Archives for the History
of the Jewish People (in Jerusalem).

I have placed sample pages of this document here:

http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/1022Pla/

In particular, here are 2 cover pages:

http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/1022Pla/PlaCov1-72.jpg
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/1022Pla/PlaCov2-72.jpg

And here are 2 sample pages (for the same person)

http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/1022Pla/ExA-72sm.jpg
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/hh/1022Pla/ExB-72sm.jpg

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Chicago / Philadelphia / Bronx / New York / Los Angeles
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


(No subject) #courland #latvia

Thomas / Kathy Edmonston <fordnut1@...>
 

My gr. gr. fa was born in Riga, Courland (as he stated on marriage
record), in 1836. His name is Theodor Edward Johnson or Johannson. He
had a brother Alexander, also born in Courland. >from what I can make out
from a mariage record form a German Lutheran church, their parents were
Ferdinand Johannson & Katharina Sieben.
All throughout my childhood, I heard stories of the "Russian Jews". Of
course I can't remember the stories now, and no one is alive to remember
them. My mother told me my father sat her down before they were married
to tell her he was "part Jewish".(can you believe it?)
I have since converted to Judaism, and am trying to find my Jewish
family.I've been trying for 16 yrs with no luck. It's more difficult due
to the fact that when Theodor and Alexander came to Chicago in the early
1850's, they totally assimilated, both marrying German women.I also
don't know if they were actually born in Riga or another smaller village
in Courland.
I've checked all the databases on the Courland Research Grp. site,
looked extensively at t various Jewish genealogy sites, even sent for
films >from Salt Lake on Riga. I've checked the Hamburg Passenger
Lists,etc. In other words, I've found no clue that they were Jews.
I was hoping someone who subscribes to the mailing list could give me
some insights, however small, maybe in relation to the names and time
period.
Thank you very much, Kathy Edmonston


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia (no subject) #courland #latvia

Thomas / Kathy Edmonston <fordnut1@...>
 

My gr. gr. fa was born in Riga, Courland (as he stated on marriage
record), in 1836. His name is Theodor Edward Johnson or Johannson. He
had a brother Alexander, also born in Courland. >from what I can make out
from a mariage record form a German Lutheran church, their parents were
Ferdinand Johannson & Katharina Sieben.
All throughout my childhood, I heard stories of the "Russian Jews". Of
course I can't remember the stories now, and no one is alive to remember
them. My mother told me my father sat her down before they were married
to tell her he was "part Jewish".(can you believe it?)
I have since converted to Judaism, and am trying to find my Jewish
family.I've been trying for 16 yrs with no luck. It's more difficult due
to the fact that when Theodor and Alexander came to Chicago in the early
1850's, they totally assimilated, both marrying German women.I also
don't know if they were actually born in Riga or another smaller village
in Courland.
I've checked all the databases on the Courland Research Grp. site,
looked extensively at t various Jewish genealogy sites, even sent for
films >from Salt Lake on Riga. I've checked the Hamburg Passenger
Lists,etc. In other words, I've found no clue that they were Jews.
I was hoping someone who subscribes to the mailing list could give me
some insights, however small, maybe in relation to the names and time
period.
Thank you very much, Kathy Edmonston


Re: Litvaks expelled from Riga #courland #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

I found your letter a little confusing. As my family were Courlanders whom
I traced back to the beginning of the 1700's in Courland, I know that the
Czar did not "liquidate" the Jewish presence in Courland. What was done,
however, was to expell the Jews who were there "illegally", according to
the Czar's idea of legal, and to try to get them into the Pale of
Settlement. Since my family had been in Courland prior to the third
partition of Poland and the area being delivered to the Russian Empire,
they were never harrassed to leave, that I know of. That did not prevent
many, or even most of them, thank God, >from emigrating.

I do absolutely agree with you about Courlanders being special!

Martha in Israel


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Re: Litvaks expelled from Riga #courland #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

I found your letter a little confusing. As my family were Courlanders whom
I traced back to the beginning of the 1700's in Courland, I know that the
Czar did not "liquidate" the Jewish presence in Courland. What was done,
however, was to expell the Jews who were there "illegally", according to
the Czar's idea of legal, and to try to get them into the Pale of
Settlement. Since my family had been in Courland prior to the third
partition of Poland and the area being delivered to the Russian Empire,
they were never harrassed to leave, that I know of. That did not prevent
many, or even most of them, thank God, >from emigrating.

I do absolutely agree with you about Courlanders being special!

Martha in Israel


Re: Litvaks expelled from Riga #courland #latvia

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

I appreciate the response >from Martha Lev-Zion to my post on Litvaks in
Riga. I have no evidence that my family was expelled >from Riga other than
what my grandmother wrote in her memoir. However I would like to comment on
reaction I have received to my statement about my Litvak family being
expelled >from Riga.

When I began my research I learned that Riga was outside of the Pale and
that one needed a permit to do business in Riga and presumably live there.
I therefore assumed that my family was living in Riga without the legal
right to do so and were found out and forced to leave. None of the experts
that I have contacted agree with this explanation of mine.

When I came across the Courlander database of Passlosen - "Jews Without
Lawful Permit", I thought that the information on the Passolen was connected
to the story of my family being expelled for living without a permit. I
therefore posted my message to the Courland Research Group instead of the
Latvia newsgroup as the Passolen database was put up by the Courland
Research Group. I now understand (and see >from the map on the Courland web
site) that Riga was outside of Courland.

We know Jews were constantly harassed by the authorities. Therefore I don't
understand why it is so impossible that families could have been expelled
from Riga as they were >from any other area of the world. Anyway my research
continues and I appreciate the opportunity to discuss this issue.


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Re: Litvaks expelled from Riga #courland #latvia

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

I appreciate the response >from Martha Lev-Zion to my post on Litvaks in
Riga. I have no evidence that my family was expelled >from Riga other than
what my grandmother wrote in her memoir. However I would like to comment on
reaction I have received to my statement about my Litvak family being
expelled >from Riga.

When I began my research I learned that Riga was outside of the Pale and
that one needed a permit to do business in Riga and presumably live there.
I therefore assumed that my family was living in Riga without the legal
right to do so and were found out and forced to leave. None of the experts
that I have contacted agree with this explanation of mine.

When I came across the Courlander database of Passlosen - "Jews Without
Lawful Permit", I thought that the information on the Passolen was connected
to the story of my family being expelled for living without a permit. I
therefore posted my message to the Courland Research Group instead of the
Latvia newsgroup as the Passolen database was put up by the Courland
Research Group. I now understand (and see >from the map on the Courland web
site) that Riga was outside of Courland.

We know Jews were constantly harassed by the authorities. Therefore I don't
understand why it is so impossible that families could have been expelled
from Riga as they were >from any other area of the world. Anyway my research
continues and I appreciate the opportunity to discuss this issue.


Re: Need help with records and names #hungary

Jaki Erdoes <jaki@...>
 

Hello!

At 09:13 pm 10/21/00 -0400, Marian Brown wrote:
Could Borbola transform itself into Bertha? Is Borbala Hebrew, Yiddush,
Hungarian?
Isn't Borbala the Hungarian form of Barbara? I have seen records referring
to (I think) the same individual as Borbala, Babetta and Betti. (As a
matter of fact, I think she married a Lissauer!) Betta and Berta are not
so far apart, but you never know. It seems to me that French-sounding
versions of many names were popular in the late 1800s in Budapest, i.e.
Babette, Jeanette, etc.

N'est-ce pas?

Jaki


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Need help with records and names #hungary

Jaki Erdoes <jaki@...>
 

Hello!

At 09:13 pm 10/21/00 -0400, Marian Brown wrote:
Could Borbola transform itself into Bertha? Is Borbala Hebrew, Yiddush,
Hungarian?
Isn't Borbala the Hungarian form of Barbara? I have seen records referring
to (I think) the same individual as Borbala, Babetta and Betti. (As a
matter of fact, I think she married a Lissauer!) Betta and Berta are not
so far apart, but you never know. It seems to me that French-sounding
versions of many names were popular in the late 1800s in Budapest, i.e.
Babette, Jeanette, etc.

N'est-ce pas?

Jaki


Searching WALTZMAN, BOJDA, LEFFENFELD #galicia

Sherribob@...
 

Good evening Galicia,

I am searching WALTZMAN >from Ustrzyki Dolne (Istryker).

BOJDA >from Tarnobrzeg.

LEFFENFELD >from Daliowa (Posada Jasliska).

Regards,

Sherri Bobish
Reply to <Sherribob@...>


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Searching WALTZMAN, BOJDA, LEFFENFELD #galicia

Sherribob@...
 

Good evening Galicia,

I am searching WALTZMAN >from Ustrzyki Dolne (Istryker).

BOJDA >from Tarnobrzeg.

LEFFENFELD >from Daliowa (Posada Jasliska).

Regards,

Sherri Bobish
Reply to <Sherribob@...>