Re: English Tay-Sachs disease
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Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
Any genetic disease can occur anywhere. Ask Stanley Diamond who thought
thalassemia was Mediterranean. The difference is the prevalence of the disease (and the gene) in a certain population. So sickle cell anemia is primarily found in blacks (>from a certain part of Africa) but can appear in others. The Tay-Sachs gene is much more common and was first identified in Ashkenazi Jews >from NE Poland, but it can also appear in anyone >from any population group. A mutation can occur in anyone at any time. If the mutation occurs in an egg or sperm, then it can be passed on to more generations. Whether a mutation becomes common depends on a number of factors. It was theorized (read that to mean guessed) that some Ashkenazi Jew in NE Poland about 1700 happened to have the gene and passed it on to some of his descendants-we all know how common marriages between cousins were in Europe-and some of those had children with 2 copies of the gene, one from each parent so they had Tay-Sachs disease.A similar situation occurred with the sickle cell gene, but that is supposed to protect >from the worst effects of malaria (the same thing with thalassemia). In the parts of Africa where malaria was endemic, the gene became amazingly common. Having 2 sickle genes, like 2 Tay-Sachs genes or 2 thalassemia genes is very bad; having one gene for sickle cell anemia was good and the gene became common. By the way, there are many diseases like Tay-Sachs which are found in different populations. Gaucher's disease is one example. It is similar in effect to Tay-Sachs, but has a different gene and is found in different people; a baby born with 2 Gaucher genes is just as likely to die as a baby. Tay-Sachs was the first genetic disease for which screening of potential parents was developed because of the limited population at high risk, the prevalence of Jews in medical research, and the interest and ability of potential parents to pay for the test. So, no, your English ancestors do not have Jews hiding in their family tree-French Canadian is also a possibility and so is none of the above. Sally Bruckheimer Buffalo, NY
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: English Tay-Sachs disease
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Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
Any genetic disease can occur anywhere. Ask Stanley Diamond who thought
thalassemia was Mediterranean. The difference is the prevalence of the disease (and the gene) in a certain population. So sickle cell anemia is primarily found in blacks (>from a certain part of Africa) but can appear in others. The Tay-Sachs gene is much more common and was first identified in Ashkenazi Jews >from NE Poland, but it can also appear in anyone >from any population group. A mutation can occur in anyone at any time. If the mutation occurs in an egg or sperm, then it can be passed on to more generations. Whether a mutation becomes common depends on a number of factors. It was theorized (read that to mean guessed) that some Ashkenazi Jew in NE Poland about 1700 happened to have the gene and passed it on to some of his descendants-we all know how common marriages between cousins were in Europe-and some of those had children with 2 copies of the gene, one from each parent so they had Tay-Sachs disease.A similar situation occurred with the sickle cell gene, but that is supposed to protect >from the worst effects of malaria (the same thing with thalassemia). In the parts of Africa where malaria was endemic, the gene became amazingly common. Having 2 sickle genes, like 2 Tay-Sachs genes or 2 thalassemia genes is very bad; having one gene for sickle cell anemia was good and the gene became common. By the way, there are many diseases like Tay-Sachs which are found in different populations. Gaucher's disease is one example. It is similar in effect to Tay-Sachs, but has a different gene and is found in different people; a baby born with 2 Gaucher genes is just as likely to die as a baby. Tay-Sachs was the first genetic disease for which screening of potential parents was developed because of the limited population at high risk, the prevalence of Jews in medical research, and the interest and ability of potential parents to pay for the test. So, no, your English ancestors do not have Jews hiding in their family tree-French Canadian is also a possibility and so is none of the above. Sally Bruckheimer Buffalo, NY
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KAJTER - and Central Jiddish
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Tess Caiter <TessCaiter@...>
Hi Jewishgen-ners,
I know "kajt" in CJ means "chain" and I know Beider lists Kajtler and Kajtel as occupational Polish surname variants. Would Kajter be a similar variant of that name? (I came across one Rajzla Kajter e.g. at the Hrubieszov listings at Jewishgen.) I have been desperately looking for etymological clues to our original surname (which was Romanised in the 1920ies and then in 1977 Germanised to its current form), and would really be glad to have an expert look into this... Thanks!! Tess TessCaiter@t-online.de
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KAJTER - and Central Jiddish
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Tess Caiter <TessCaiter@...>
Hi Jewishgen-ners,
I know "kajt" in CJ means "chain" and I know Beider lists Kajtler and Kajtel as occupational Polish surname variants. Would Kajter be a similar variant of that name? (I came across one Rajzla Kajter e.g. at the Hrubieszov listings at Jewishgen.) I have been desperately looking for etymological clues to our original surname (which was Romanised in the 1920ies and then in 1977 Germanised to its current form), and would really be glad to have an expert look into this... Thanks!! Tess TessCaiter@t-online.de
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MORANTZ - Philadelphia
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Norman Morantz <nmorantz@...>
Would some kind JewishGenner please look up the death notice for William
MORANTZ in the Philly papers and E-mail the obit. to me. The Soc. Sec. Death Index lists his death as Sept. 20, 2000. Please reply privately. I will be happy to reciprocate with lookup of Montreal papers. Norman Morantz Montreal
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MORANTZ - Philadelphia
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Norman Morantz <nmorantz@...>
Would some kind JewishGenner please look up the death notice for William
MORANTZ in the Philly papers and E-mail the obit. to me. The Soc. Sec. Death Index lists his death as Sept. 20, 2000. Please reply privately. I will be happy to reciprocate with lookup of Montreal papers. Norman Morantz Montreal
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Re: SS-5 form
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Jeanne Gold <jeannegold@...>
From: Eric Haas <erichaas@home.com>Unless the Social Security Administration (SSA) has changed it's requirements, this is not true. I made 2 requests for an ancestor's SS-5 by modifying a standard letter produced by http://www.ancestry.com/ in which I included the person's name at time of death, birth date, death date, last residence, if known, parent's names, and check for $16.50 (the cost when you don't know the Social Security Number (SSN); it's $7.00 when you do know it). I did not include any proof of death. In one case the record was found, and in the other it was not. In the case where the record was not found I had thought she might not have had one since other records asking for a SSN were blank. See "Guide to Freedom of Information Act Requests" (below) -- there is no proof of death requirement. I've also been following along the conversations about what is contained in an SS-5 Application and what is contained in the "Master Files of Social Security Number (SSN) Holders and SSN Applications, HHS/SSA/OSR". SSA describes their files at: http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/bluebook/09600058.htm Information about the "Original Social Security Number Application Forms" can be found at: http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssnforms.html Other pages of interest: List of Historical Documents: http://www.ssa.gov/history/brief.html Part 2: Social Security Since 1935: http://www.ssa.gov/history/history6.html More specifically, those with questions about what/how to make requests should refer to: (1) Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ): http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html refer to Q9: What information is available >from Social Security records to help in genealogical research? (2) "Guide to Freedom of Information Act Requests" http://www.ssa.gov/foia/foia_guide.htm Summary: (a) no form is required (b) include your name and address on the request (c) include a daytime telephone number (d) do not include a return envelope (e) write on your envelope and the letter "FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST " or "INFORMATION REQUEST." (f) if requesting copies of applications for social security numbers (Form SS-5) for people who are deceased, address your request to: Social Security Administration OEO FOIA Workgroup 300 N. Greene Street P.O. Box 33022 Baltimore, Maryland 21290-3022 (g) all other FOIA requests, send to: Office of Disclosure Policy, 3-A-6 Operations Building, 6401 Security Boulevard, Baltimore, Maryland, 21235 (h) You can also write or give your written request to any Social Security field office (i) FEES - Social Security Number application search when you have the number - $7.00 - Social Security Number application search when you don't have the number. In these cases we need identifying information (name, place and date of birth, father's full name, and mother's given and maiden names) to find the record - $16.50 - Search for a claim file - $14 - Photocopying material(s) - 10 cents per page plus postage Next: why are some records present and not others. Read the "Background" and "Results of Review" sections and "Some Deaths Were Not Recorded in the DMF" (page 5 of appendix B) contained in "Improving the Usefulness of the Social Security Administration's Death Master File" located at: http://www.ssa.gov/oig/adobepdf/98-61011.pdf Jeanne Gold California, USA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SS-5 form
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Jeanne Gold <jeannegold@...>
From: Eric Haas <erichaas@home.com>Unless the Social Security Administration (SSA) has changed it's requirements, this is not true. I made 2 requests for an ancestor's SS-5 by modifying a standard letter produced by http://www.ancestry.com/ in which I included the person's name at time of death, birth date, death date, last residence, if known, parent's names, and check for $16.50 (the cost when you don't know the Social Security Number (SSN); it's $7.00 when you do know it). I did not include any proof of death. In one case the record was found, and in the other it was not. In the case where the record was not found I had thought she might not have had one since other records asking for a SSN were blank. See "Guide to Freedom of Information Act Requests" (below) -- there is no proof of death requirement. I've also been following along the conversations about what is contained in an SS-5 Application and what is contained in the "Master Files of Social Security Number (SSN) Holders and SSN Applications, HHS/SSA/OSR". SSA describes their files at: http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/bluebook/09600058.htm Information about the "Original Social Security Number Application Forms" can be found at: http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssnforms.html Other pages of interest: List of Historical Documents: http://www.ssa.gov/history/brief.html Part 2: Social Security Since 1935: http://www.ssa.gov/history/history6.html More specifically, those with questions about what/how to make requests should refer to: (1) Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ): http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html refer to Q9: What information is available >from Social Security records to help in genealogical research? (2) "Guide to Freedom of Information Act Requests" http://www.ssa.gov/foia/foia_guide.htm Summary: (a) no form is required (b) include your name and address on the request (c) include a daytime telephone number (d) do not include a return envelope (e) write on your envelope and the letter "FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST " or "INFORMATION REQUEST." (f) if requesting copies of applications for social security numbers (Form SS-5) for people who are deceased, address your request to: Social Security Administration OEO FOIA Workgroup 300 N. Greene Street P.O. Box 33022 Baltimore, Maryland 21290-3022 (g) all other FOIA requests, send to: Office of Disclosure Policy, 3-A-6 Operations Building, 6401 Security Boulevard, Baltimore, Maryland, 21235 (h) You can also write or give your written request to any Social Security field office (i) FEES - Social Security Number application search when you have the number - $7.00 - Social Security Number application search when you don't have the number. In these cases we need identifying information (name, place and date of birth, father's full name, and mother's given and maiden names) to find the record - $16.50 - Search for a claim file - $14 - Photocopying material(s) - 10 cents per page plus postage Next: why are some records present and not others. Read the "Background" and "Results of Review" sections and "Some Deaths Were Not Recorded in the DMF" (page 5 of appendix B) contained in "Improving the Usefulness of the Social Security Administration's Death Master File" located at: http://www.ssa.gov/oig/adobepdf/98-61011.pdf Jeanne Gold California, USA
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Help with translation of document on Viewmate
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Stranddr@...
I have posted the death certificate of L/ajb Jako'b Slowes on
Viewmate File VM 075. The language is Russian. He died in Warsaw in 1893 and he might have been my great grandfather. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me and I will make a donation to Jewishgen in your honor. Phyllis Goldberg N. Bethesda, MD My Email is stranddr@aol.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with translation of document on Viewmate
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Stranddr@...
I have posted the death certificate of L/ajb Jako'b Slowes on
Viewmate File VM 075. The language is Russian. He died in Warsaw in 1893 and he might have been my great grandfather. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me and I will make a donation to Jewishgen in your honor. Phyllis Goldberg N. Bethesda, MD My Email is stranddr@aol.com
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Re: Talmud Torah question
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David Crook <CROOKFAMILY@...>
we have come across a family member listed as being on the Board of theTalmud Torah. Could someone please clarify what "Talmud Torah" would have meant in the shtetl? > Dear Anne, I have seen no replies to your Talmud Torah question on the LitvakSIG and related group noticeboards. I am a little uncertain whether this will be of help, but here's my two cents' worth. As someone who grew up in South Africa, a mainly Litvak community, I remember well the constant discussion of my elders when I was a child concerning the "Talmud Torah." I myself attended the Joseph Miller Talmud Torah in Johannesburg's Southern Suburbs >from age four [!] until my barmitzvah, moving on to the King David Jewish Day School in Linksfield. My grandfather was on the Board of this Talmud Torah. Local references in Jewish newspapers over the years to Talmud Torahs were of similar meaning: The "Talmud Torah" was the Hebrew School attached to the synagogue, generally attended each afternoon by the local community's children. We referred to it as "Cheder," the Hebrew word for "room," and both "Cheder" and "Talmud Torah" had their origins in the shtetl. Jewish children did not go to state or other schools in "Der Heim" -- they went to Jewish-administered educational establishments. Originally barred from attending any other school, this was the only place of education for a Jewish child, and the move to the newer, Western worlds with minor changes to accommodate daily/compulsory, state-required morning school, was the educational establishment that had worked for us for centuries -- the Hebrew School, or "Cheder" which taught us how to read and write Hebrew, and in earlier years, Yiddish as well, with the corresponding Judaic studies, biblical and festival, literature and history. Since a Jewish child in the shtetl had nowhere else to go, the Cheder became his [because it was usually, but not always, confined to boys] place of overall learning, literacy and guide to a way of life within the community. It has evolved into today's Hebrew and Religious School, but this differs >from the original like chalk >from cheese. To study Torah, literally "Law", is to study a genealogical history of our ancestors and the theocratic lifestyle commanded therein. But Judaism is to the Torah as America to its Constitution -- one cannot exist without the other, but can do little unless expanded upon and applied to daily life situations, upgraded by the powers-that-be [Rabbis and Beth Dins, Supreme Court and Senate and Congress], in order to be the "tree of life to those who embrace it." The explanations, discussions, opinions and generally accepted results of the "ongoing" talks on the subject were written down and passed >from generation to generation and became Jewish Law -- the word "go" in Hebrew = "Holaych", gives rise to the word "Halachah" -- the ongoing, updated Jewish Law. And so, it is not the Torah that is Jewish Law, but rather the interpretation based upon the Torah that scholars have determined to protect the Torah throughout history, that has become Jewish Law; The Hebrew word for "Learn" = "Lomed" changes with the distinctive "ooo" sound of the passive voice to "Talmud," meaning "that which is learned or studied". So, the Talmud Torah is nothing more nor less than the gathering place where the Torah is studied, which, according to Jewish Law, is the first place that needs to be erected by any Jewish community, since all other Jewish activities can take place there, and the chief activity of Jews is to study the Torah and Talmud. The Oral Law, or "Mishnah" is supplemented by the discussions that become law, the completion or "Gemarah," which together comprise the Talmud. The whole emphasis of Judaism is Study, to understand that which the Divine wants us to accomplish and how to behave in this life. Hence the importance of the "Talmud Torah," its import into the New World, and the reverence for anyone who was entrusted with its execution as being a Board Member -- implying knowledge, scholastic and leadership qualities and one's standing within the community -- for the future of that community's Jewish population and what it studied and the facilities available to it, the emphasis of its core studies, the books chosen for the studies, and the teachers chosen to supervise the young minds -- is awesome in its scope and responsibility. The Talmud Torah was the body that governed the Jewish learning process. It raised the funds, chose the "melamdim" or teachers and ensured the passing of Jewish knowledge "Midor ledor," >from generation to generation. Its natural progression lead to the schools of higher learning -- the Yeshivot, the Rabbinic schools and seminaries and even the establishment of the Beth Din therefrom, since the credibility of the rabbis that form a Beth Din cements its reputation within a community; there is a difference between a Yale or Harvard and that of the local Community College, and its graduates generally deserve the corresponding respect accorded them. >from humble beginnings the great emerge. The Talmud Torah, a concept of teaching our little ones, is the foundation for Judaic learning throughout the world. DAVID CROOK 4800 SOUTH CHICAGO BEACH DRIVE APARTMENT # 204 SOUTH CHICAGO, ILLINOIS, 60615 TELEPHONE: [773] 924-6424 E-MAIL: CROOKFAMILY@prodigy.net
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Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Talmud Torah question
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David Crook <CROOKFAMILY@...>
we have come across a family member listed as being on the Board of theTalmud Torah. Could someone please clarify what "Talmud Torah" would have meant in the shtetl? > Dear Anne, I have seen no replies to your Talmud Torah question on the LitvakSIG and related group noticeboards. I am a little uncertain whether this will be of help, but here's my two cents' worth. As someone who grew up in South Africa, a mainly Litvak community, I remember well the constant discussion of my elders when I was a child concerning the "Talmud Torah." I myself attended the Joseph Miller Talmud Torah in Johannesburg's Southern Suburbs >from age four [!] until my barmitzvah, moving on to the King David Jewish Day School in Linksfield. My grandfather was on the Board of this Talmud Torah. Local references in Jewish newspapers over the years to Talmud Torahs were of similar meaning: The "Talmud Torah" was the Hebrew School attached to the synagogue, generally attended each afternoon by the local community's children. We referred to it as "Cheder," the Hebrew word for "room," and both "Cheder" and "Talmud Torah" had their origins in the shtetl. Jewish children did not go to state or other schools in "Der Heim" -- they went to Jewish-administered educational establishments. Originally barred from attending any other school, this was the only place of education for a Jewish child, and the move to the newer, Western worlds with minor changes to accommodate daily/compulsory, state-required morning school, was the educational establishment that had worked for us for centuries -- the Hebrew School, or "Cheder" which taught us how to read and write Hebrew, and in earlier years, Yiddish as well, with the corresponding Judaic studies, biblical and festival, literature and history. Since a Jewish child in the shtetl had nowhere else to go, the Cheder became his [because it was usually, but not always, confined to boys] place of overall learning, literacy and guide to a way of life within the community. It has evolved into today's Hebrew and Religious School, but this differs >from the original like chalk >from cheese. To study Torah, literally "Law", is to study a genealogical history of our ancestors and the theocratic lifestyle commanded therein. But Judaism is to the Torah as America to its Constitution -- one cannot exist without the other, but can do little unless expanded upon and applied to daily life situations, upgraded by the powers-that-be [Rabbis and Beth Dins, Supreme Court and Senate and Congress], in order to be the "tree of life to those who embrace it." The explanations, discussions, opinions and generally accepted results of the "ongoing" talks on the subject were written down and passed >from generation to generation and became Jewish Law -- the word "go" in Hebrew = "Holaych", gives rise to the word "Halachah" -- the ongoing, updated Jewish Law. And so, it is not the Torah that is Jewish Law, but rather the interpretation based upon the Torah that scholars have determined to protect the Torah throughout history, that has become Jewish Law; The Hebrew word for "Learn" = "Lomed" changes with the distinctive "ooo" sound of the passive voice to "Talmud," meaning "that which is learned or studied". So, the Talmud Torah is nothing more nor less than the gathering place where the Torah is studied, which, according to Jewish Law, is the first place that needs to be erected by any Jewish community, since all other Jewish activities can take place there, and the chief activity of Jews is to study the Torah and Talmud. The Oral Law, or "Mishnah" is supplemented by the discussions that become law, the completion or "Gemarah," which together comprise the Talmud. The whole emphasis of Judaism is Study, to understand that which the Divine wants us to accomplish and how to behave in this life. Hence the importance of the "Talmud Torah," its import into the New World, and the reverence for anyone who was entrusted with its execution as being a Board Member -- implying knowledge, scholastic and leadership qualities and one's standing within the community -- for the future of that community's Jewish population and what it studied and the facilities available to it, the emphasis of its core studies, the books chosen for the studies, and the teachers chosen to supervise the young minds -- is awesome in its scope and responsibility. The Talmud Torah was the body that governed the Jewish learning process. It raised the funds, chose the "melamdim" or teachers and ensured the passing of Jewish knowledge "Midor ledor," >from generation to generation. Its natural progression lead to the schools of higher learning -- the Yeshivot, the Rabbinic schools and seminaries and even the establishment of the Beth Din therefrom, since the credibility of the rabbis that form a Beth Din cements its reputation within a community; there is a difference between a Yale or Harvard and that of the local Community College, and its graduates generally deserve the corresponding respect accorded them. >from humble beginnings the great emerge. The Talmud Torah, a concept of teaching our little ones, is the foundation for Judaic learning throughout the world. DAVID CROOK 4800 SOUTH CHICAGO BEACH DRIVE APARTMENT # 204 SOUTH CHICAGO, ILLINOIS, 60615 TELEPHONE: [773] 924-6424 E-MAIL: CROOKFAMILY@prodigy.net
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Krakow Synagogue Marriage and Banns Project - Phase I Update
#poland
Judy Wolkovitch <judywolk@...>
To date we have received $2,415 towards the $3,000 needed to fund Phase I of
this great project. The indeces are very comprehensive including names of bride and groom, parents of bride and groom, in many cases the maiden names of the mothers, the towns >from which they came. This project, sponsored by the JGS, INc. (NY) and with access given to us by the Jewish Historical Institute in Warsaw, gives us a wonderful opportunity to move genealogical research in this area forward to 1939 when all phases are funded. Please send contributions in US$ to Jewish Records Indexing - Poland and mark your check Krakow Marriage and Banns or JHI. Send funds to: Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, c/o Sheila Salo, Treasurer, 5607 Greenleaf Rd., Cheverly, MD20785 or pay by Visa at: <http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/visa.htm> Many thanks, Judy Wolkovitch Krakow Town Leader
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JRI Poland #Poland Krakow Synagogue Marriage and Banns Project - Phase I Update
#poland
Judy Wolkovitch <judywolk@...>
To date we have received $2,415 towards the $3,000 needed to fund Phase I of
this great project. The indeces are very comprehensive including names of bride and groom, parents of bride and groom, in many cases the maiden names of the mothers, the towns >from which they came. This project, sponsored by the JGS, INc. (NY) and with access given to us by the Jewish Historical Institute in Warsaw, gives us a wonderful opportunity to move genealogical research in this area forward to 1939 when all phases are funded. Please send contributions in US$ to Jewish Records Indexing - Poland and mark your check Krakow Marriage and Banns or JHI. Send funds to: Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, c/o Sheila Salo, Treasurer, 5607 Greenleaf Rd., Cheverly, MD20785 or pay by Visa at: <http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/visa.htm> Many thanks, Judy Wolkovitch Krakow Town Leader
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Seredne Cemetary
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ShifBe@...
I am wondering how I can get access to the names of those buried in the
Seredne Cemetary. I am hoping to find my great grandfather's father's name via the records..his name was Menachim Weinberger and he died approx in 1925. Any help or direction would be appreciated. Thanks Shifra Bemis Researching Weinberger Seredne Oestricher Seredne/Munkach/Csenger
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Looking for Solomon Schlussel
#hungary
lionsden@...
I am trying to locate a correct e-mail address for Solomon Schlussel.
The one that he used to post messages to the SIG is bouncing mail back to me. Is anyone in touch with him? If so, please send me his updated address or forward this note on to him. I have information that he would be interested in. Thank you, Meyer Denn Jerusalem ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere!
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Seredne Cemetary
#hungary
ShifBe@...
I am wondering how I can get access to the names of those buried in the
Seredne Cemetary. I am hoping to find my great grandfather's father's name via the records..his name was Menachim Weinberger and he died approx in 1925. Any help or direction would be appreciated. Thanks Shifra Bemis Researching Weinberger Seredne Oestricher Seredne/Munkach/Csenger
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Looking for Solomon Schlussel
#hungary
lionsden@...
I am trying to locate a correct e-mail address for Solomon Schlussel.
The one that he used to post messages to the SIG is bouncing mail back to me. Is anyone in touch with him? If so, please send me his updated address or forward this note on to him. I have information that he would be interested in. Thank you, Meyer Denn Jerusalem ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere!
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Sam Jacobs: The Names of my great Uncle and Great Grandfatther
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EScharff3@...
11/15/00
My Great Grandfather and Great Uncle were both named Sam Jacobs. My Great Grandfather was born in Smilnick, Hungary in 1868. Sam Jacobs my great Uncle was born in 1895 at Snina ,Czechoslovakia.They both Immigrated to the USA. I would like to find out the following: 1. Where is Smilnick,Hungary? 2.When the Immigration occured.Ports of Departure and Arrival 3. What brought them to Mississippi? 4. Who were their Parents, Siblings etc.? Thanks for any sugestions. Earle U.Scharff III
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Re: Magyarorszag helysegneptara
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AttilaRona@...
It does not contain any names, only a number identifying how many people were
living in the town.
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