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Usenet Genealogy Archives Searchpage #general

genea_search@...
 

Dear genealogy friends

Almost every message that is posted to a newsgroup on the internet is
archived in the databases at deja.com. This international source of
information (made up by you, me and the rest of the world in any
possible language) can be consulted via their searchmechanism. To make
it even more simple I created a free and non-commercial, pre-programmed
usenet search facility for the deja.com (genealogy)archives. Specially
tuned for fast and easy (re)search in 64 genealogy newsgroups >from all
over the world, abt. 410000 postings are searched within seconds. Its
also possible to refine your search by country, topic or newsgroup or
use the Author Profile Search

You can find the site at:
http://www.kuijsten.net/usenet_search/genealogy.html

Suggestion: Search for surnames, locations, or e-mail addresses. It
can be useful to find out this way if someone else was looking for the
same data as you.

There is also an option to search for keys in last years postings in
all 45.0000 ! discussion forums at deja (abt. 180000000 postings!)
Maybe you can find some useful information >from the past, reread all
your usenet postings, or just review that ludicrous flame...

It's just a simple tool, Sometimes the results are a bit foggy, but
always better then nothing. Enjoy yourself with the usenet genealogy
archives searchpage!!

Regards, Rob Kuijsten,
Culemborg, Netherlands


Molodechno #general

Alter & Dina Ophir <alterdina@...>
 

In my research I have come across a family document that identifies
Moldetzne, Lithuania as the place of origin of my mother's family. I am
looking for someone to verify the correctness of this spelling. If this
cannot be verified, can someone suggest shtetles with similar names in or
near Lithuania. The document refers to an event (a pogrom) that took
place on or around 1900.

Molodechno is in Belarrus in the region of Minsk.
Alter Ophir
alterdina@ashdot-a.org.il


VM131: Hebrew names #general

Howard Cherney <hcherney@...>
 

Viewmate file: VM131

Can anyone please read the Hebrew on this tombstone and interpret the
Hebrew names inscribed for Mollie Fireberg. She was also called Matilda
and her surename was spelled, Faerberg.

Please reply to me or, <Ida Cherney> january@bc.seflin.org
Howard Cherney


Re: REBECCHI: what dou you think about this surname? #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Dalia Rossi wrote:

I found in old book of byblical hebrew that in old hebrew
Rebach,reibach,rebech means lightening
**the normal Hebrew word for lightning is baraq (spelled bet-resh-qof).

and in middle hebrew means earnings,like in yiddish reibach,rebbach
ecc,ecc means earnings.
**The Hebrew word revah, meaning earnings or profit, is spelled
completely differently
(resh-vav-het) -- and has no connection with the noun bet-resh-qof
meaning lightning.

In Poland rybicki is relative to Ryba that means fish,
**As it happens, Fisch, Fischmann and Fischer are very common
German/Yiddish surnames. So that is certainly a possibility. Also, a
common Jewish-Polish surname is Ravitsky; you might want to investigate
that possibility also.

All of the above assumes that your ancestors were Ashkenazim. But if they
were sephardim maybe you should be looking for Spanish or Portuguese origin
for the name Rebecchi. Or perhaps, as you first suggested, the name is
related to Rebecca ( Rivqah)

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: Ships from E. Europe to England #general

Harry Dodsworth <af877@...>
 

Sharon Kleban <s_kleban@yahoo.com> posted:
My ggm >from Russia arrived in the US in 1905 on a ship
from Southampton. Does anyone out there know how to
find information on ships >from E. Europe to England
during that era?
If by information, Sharon means passenger lists, there aren't
any. My understanding is that on the short sea routes, the British
destroyed them after two weeks. The ships themselves are well
documented but that isn't much help.
However I also understand that >from 1890, the British kept
outbound passenger lists and these are in the Public Record Office
at Kew. In general they give ages, nationality and possibly occupation.
In some cases, for transit passengers, they list the ship the
passenger entered Britain on.
These lists have not been filmed, are generally not indexed, are
fragile, and are kept in dusty boxes. So a professional researcher
who knows these records is needed and the potential reward is limited.

There is about one chance in three that an emigrant left through
Hamburg; the Hamburg exit lists are available and there is a project
under way to transcribe them and put them online (although there
may be a charge when the project is complete) so perhaps these
should be checked before any attempt is made to check British records.
Emigrants travelling through Britain were known as Hamburg indirect
emigrants.

--
Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca


Re: Mashe #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Masha is a Slavic woman's name.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Usenet Genealogy Archives Searchpage #general

genea_search@...
 

Dear genealogy friends

Almost every message that is posted to a newsgroup on the internet is
archived in the databases at deja.com. This international source of
information (made up by you, me and the rest of the world in any
possible language) can be consulted via their searchmechanism. To make
it even more simple I created a free and non-commercial, pre-programmed
usenet search facility for the deja.com (genealogy)archives. Specially
tuned for fast and easy (re)search in 64 genealogy newsgroups >from all
over the world, abt. 410000 postings are searched within seconds. Its
also possible to refine your search by country, topic or newsgroup or
use the Author Profile Search

You can find the site at:
http://www.kuijsten.net/usenet_search/genealogy.html

Suggestion: Search for surnames, locations, or e-mail addresses. It
can be useful to find out this way if someone else was looking for the
same data as you.

There is also an option to search for keys in last years postings in
all 45.0000 ! discussion forums at deja (abt. 180000000 postings!)
Maybe you can find some useful information >from the past, reread all
your usenet postings, or just review that ludicrous flame...

It's just a simple tool, Sometimes the results are a bit foggy, but
always better then nothing. Enjoy yourself with the usenet genealogy
archives searchpage!!

Regards, Rob Kuijsten,
Culemborg, Netherlands


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Molodechno #general

Alter & Dina Ophir <alterdina@...>
 

In my research I have come across a family document that identifies
Moldetzne, Lithuania as the place of origin of my mother's family. I am
looking for someone to verify the correctness of this spelling. If this
cannot be verified, can someone suggest shtetles with similar names in or
near Lithuania. The document refers to an event (a pogrom) that took
place on or around 1900.

Molodechno is in Belarrus in the region of Minsk.
Alter Ophir
alterdina@ashdot-a.org.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen VM131: Hebrew names #general

Howard Cherney <hcherney@...>
 

Viewmate file: VM131

Can anyone please read the Hebrew on this tombstone and interpret the
Hebrew names inscribed for Mollie Fireberg. She was also called Matilda
and her surename was spelled, Faerberg.

Please reply to me or, <Ida Cherney> january@bc.seflin.org
Howard Cherney


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: REBECCHI: what dou you think about this surname? #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Dalia Rossi wrote:

I found in old book of byblical hebrew that in old hebrew
Rebach,reibach,rebech means lightening
**the normal Hebrew word for lightning is baraq (spelled bet-resh-qof).

and in middle hebrew means earnings,like in yiddish reibach,rebbach
ecc,ecc means earnings.
**The Hebrew word revah, meaning earnings or profit, is spelled
completely differently
(resh-vav-het) -- and has no connection with the noun bet-resh-qof
meaning lightning.

In Poland rybicki is relative to Ryba that means fish,
**As it happens, Fisch, Fischmann and Fischer are very common
German/Yiddish surnames. So that is certainly a possibility. Also, a
common Jewish-Polish surname is Ravitsky; you might want to investigate
that possibility also.

All of the above assumes that your ancestors were Ashkenazim. But if they
were sephardim maybe you should be looking for Spanish or Portuguese origin
for the name Rebecchi. Or perhaps, as you first suggested, the name is
related to Rebecca ( Rivqah)

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ships from E. Europe to England #general

Harry Dodsworth <af877@...>
 

Sharon Kleban <s_kleban@yahoo.com> posted:
My ggm >from Russia arrived in the US in 1905 on a ship
from Southampton. Does anyone out there know how to
find information on ships >from E. Europe to England
during that era?
If by information, Sharon means passenger lists, there aren't
any. My understanding is that on the short sea routes, the British
destroyed them after two weeks. The ships themselves are well
documented but that isn't much help.
However I also understand that >from 1890, the British kept
outbound passenger lists and these are in the Public Record Office
at Kew. In general they give ages, nationality and possibly occupation.
In some cases, for transit passengers, they list the ship the
passenger entered Britain on.
These lists have not been filmed, are generally not indexed, are
fragile, and are kept in dusty boxes. So a professional researcher
who knows these records is needed and the potential reward is limited.

There is about one chance in three that an emigrant left through
Hamburg; the Hamburg exit lists are available and there is a project
under way to transcribe them and put them online (although there
may be a charge when the project is complete) so perhaps these
should be checked before any attempt is made to check British records.
Emigrants travelling through Britain were known as Hamburg indirect
emigrants.

--
Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Mashe #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Masha is a Slavic woman's name.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


ViewMate - Thank You to 'eager readers' #general

koosh@...
 

JewishGen researchers post ViewMate requests for feedback and they wait for
the responses to arrive. Eager readers gaze at the documents and photos, all
profoundly important to fellow researchers. Perhaps they'll recognize a face
or a place, or provide a translation.

Here are excerpts >from some queries that accompanied documents, photos and
artifacts displayed on ViewMate in the past 30 days.

= I believe this is cursive Hebrew. Can anyone read it?
= looking for someone to translate this tombstone
= This Portuguese document is over 300 years old, and concerns my ancestor
= letter... signed by my grandfather... in 1940. I believe it is Arabic
characters
= A Little help with the Hebrew please (Re: Yizkor Book)
= card to my great grandfather... a Vilna immigrant in London, >from his new
son-in-law.
= Can anyone shed some light on these pieces of jewelry?
= help in identifying the people shown here... picture taken in Lublin
= Unknown relatives... >from my mothers album, anyone that can help...
= signature dated 1781 >from a land deed... 'Old Hebrew' handwriting...?

Here is one of the many resulting 'success' stories;-
"I had such an interesting experience using View Mate which I really love
and appreciate. ... Each [response] added more until the last when I had a
perfectly wonderful translation of the document." [PG]

We take this opportunity to thank all the 'eager readers' who have been so
quick to provide feedback that aids us to understand the past.


Visit today to make use of this newest JewishGen tool. The site has FAQ with
full instructions.
ViewMate website: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate
Original concept: Bernard I. Kouchel
Programmer/Webmaster: Josef A. Herz

--
bkouchel@jewishgen.org
Bernard I. Kouchel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate - Thank You to 'eager readers' #general

koosh@...
 

JewishGen researchers post ViewMate requests for feedback and they wait for
the responses to arrive. Eager readers gaze at the documents and photos, all
profoundly important to fellow researchers. Perhaps they'll recognize a face
or a place, or provide a translation.

Here are excerpts >from some queries that accompanied documents, photos and
artifacts displayed on ViewMate in the past 30 days.

= I believe this is cursive Hebrew. Can anyone read it?
= looking for someone to translate this tombstone
= This Portuguese document is over 300 years old, and concerns my ancestor
= letter... signed by my grandfather... in 1940. I believe it is Arabic
characters
= A Little help with the Hebrew please (Re: Yizkor Book)
= card to my great grandfather... a Vilna immigrant in London, >from his new
son-in-law.
= Can anyone shed some light on these pieces of jewelry?
= help in identifying the people shown here... picture taken in Lublin
= Unknown relatives... >from my mothers album, anyone that can help...
= signature dated 1781 >from a land deed... 'Old Hebrew' handwriting...?

Here is one of the many resulting 'success' stories;-
"I had such an interesting experience using View Mate which I really love
and appreciate. ... Each [response] added more until the last when I had a
perfectly wonderful translation of the document." [PG]

We take this opportunity to thank all the 'eager readers' who have been so
quick to provide feedback that aids us to understand the past.


Visit today to make use of this newest JewishGen tool. The site has FAQ with
full instructions.
ViewMate website: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate
Original concept: Bernard I. Kouchel
Programmer/Webmaster: Josef A. Herz

--
bkouchel@jewishgen.org
Bernard I. Kouchel


Re: How many marriages? #hungary

Peter I. Hidas <peterhidas@...>
 

There were no marriage restrictions in Hungary.

P.I.H.


=====
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historian

thidas@sympatico.ca
peterhidas@yahoo.com
To read some of my studies you are more than welcome to visit my home page at
www3.sympatico.ca/thidas

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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: How many marriages? #hungary

Peter I. Hidas <peterhidas@...>
 

There were no marriage restrictions in Hungary.

P.I.H.


=====
Dr. Peter I. Hidas
historian

thidas@sympatico.ca
peterhidas@yahoo.com
To read some of my studies you are more than welcome to visit my home page at
www3.sympatico.ca/thidas

__________________________________________________
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Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products.
http://shopping.yahoo.com/


Re: Registering Jewish marriages in Vienna #hungary

Dolph Klein <kledolph@...>
 

Vital records of Jewish events in Vienna can be obtained via e-mail by
contacting Ms. Heidrun Weiss at <mailto:h.weiss@ikg-wien.at>. You can
expect a response in about a month's time.
There is no charge for the service. If, however, you wish to receive
transcribed, official hard copies, there is a charge of $10 per record. Be
mindful that the copies are transcribed, not photocopied, >from the original
documents. I emphasize this because I have found that not all of the
information on the original record is transcribed faithfully.

To obtain photocopies of the original documents, I suggest you order the
FHL microfilms through your local Family History Center. The microfilms are
listed on the FHL on-line catalog
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp. Type VIENNA
as the key place word and then click the following hyperlinks as they
appear on each successive screen: "Austria, Niederosterreich, Vienna",
"Austria, Niederosterreich, Wien", "Austria, Niederosterreich, Wien -
Jewish Records", "Matrikel, 1826-1938", and "View Film Notes".

There are a total of 111 film notes describing the chronological order of
the vital records and their indexes. The indexes are extremely useful
whether or not the exact date of the event is known. Some records have been
microfilmed out of chronological order.

From: "Sarah&Laurent Kassel" <kassells@hotmail.com>
I'd like to comment on Doug Cohen's following statement:
"I was advised that there was no marriage record in the Viennese archives.
And that probably the couple were married elsewhere and had not
formally
registered their marriage in Vienna."
Vital records were kept by the Jewish community in Vienna since 1826. There
was no other "civil recording" for Jews up to WWII. These records survived
the war and still are kept by the Jewish Community. You should contact them
to find about a specific wedding.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Registering Jewish marriages in Vienna #hungary

Dolph Klein <kledolph@...>
 

Vital records of Jewish events in Vienna can be obtained via e-mail by
contacting Ms. Heidrun Weiss at <mailto:h.weiss@ikg-wien.at>. You can
expect a response in about a month's time.
There is no charge for the service. If, however, you wish to receive
transcribed, official hard copies, there is a charge of $10 per record. Be
mindful that the copies are transcribed, not photocopied, >from the original
documents. I emphasize this because I have found that not all of the
information on the original record is transcribed faithfully.

To obtain photocopies of the original documents, I suggest you order the
FHL microfilms through your local Family History Center. The microfilms are
listed on the FHL on-line catalog
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp. Type VIENNA
as the key place word and then click the following hyperlinks as they
appear on each successive screen: "Austria, Niederosterreich, Vienna",
"Austria, Niederosterreich, Wien", "Austria, Niederosterreich, Wien -
Jewish Records", "Matrikel, 1826-1938", and "View Film Notes".

There are a total of 111 film notes describing the chronological order of
the vital records and their indexes. The indexes are extremely useful
whether or not the exact date of the event is known. Some records have been
microfilmed out of chronological order.

From: "Sarah&Laurent Kassel" <kassells@hotmail.com>
I'd like to comment on Doug Cohen's following statement:
"I was advised that there was no marriage record in the Viennese archives.
And that probably the couple were married elsewhere and had not
formally
registered their marriage in Vienna."
Vital records were kept by the Jewish community in Vienna since 1826. There
was no other "civil recording" for Jews up to WWII. These records survived
the war and still are kept by the Jewish Community. You should contact them
to find about a specific wedding.


Re: Lieven #latvia

Salit, Dr. Irving <Irving.salit@...>
 

I am researching the Levin Family in Riga including Esther Levin. Same
family?

Irving E. Salit
Division of Infectious Diseases
Director, Immunodeficiency Clinic
Toronto General Hospital
Eaton G-216
416-340-3697

Moderator Note: Please reply privately.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard Kessler [SMTP:lkes50@hotmail.com]
Subject: [latvia] Researching Lieven and Feldmann families

Hello. I am new to the group. I am researching my grandparents and their
families. Mera (Marjana) Lieven (Liven) b. 1882 in Riga. Her parents
Israel
Lieven b. 1857 Riga and Hana Esther (Feldmann) b. abt. 1858-60 in Riga.
Israel's parents Marcus Lieven b. abt. 1810 and Mirjam (Marjanna)
(Danziger)
b. abt. 1821. Marcus' parents Hirsh Lieven b. abt. 1768 in Schlock and his

wife Sara (Levy) b. abt. 1788-89. Hirsh's father Levin Lieven. >from the
Feldmann's Hana Esther's` parents Itzik Orel Feldmann b. abt. 1836 and his

wife Schlove (Kantor) b. abt. 1837. Itzik's parents Gessel Feldmann b.
abt.
1806 in Tuckum and Rebecca (?) b. abt. 1820. Finally Gessel's father Aron
Feldmann. Any connections? Thank you.

Leonard Kessler at lkes50@hotmail.com
_


Latvia SIG #Latvia RE: Lieven #latvia

Salit, Dr. Irving <Irving.salit@...>
 

I am researching the Levin Family in Riga including Esther Levin. Same
family?

Irving E. Salit
Division of Infectious Diseases
Director, Immunodeficiency Clinic
Toronto General Hospital
Eaton G-216
416-340-3697

Moderator Note: Please reply privately.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard Kessler [SMTP:lkes50@hotmail.com]
Subject: [latvia] Researching Lieven and Feldmann families

Hello. I am new to the group. I am researching my grandparents and their
families. Mera (Marjana) Lieven (Liven) b. 1882 in Riga. Her parents
Israel
Lieven b. 1857 Riga and Hana Esther (Feldmann) b. abt. 1858-60 in Riga.
Israel's parents Marcus Lieven b. abt. 1810 and Mirjam (Marjanna)
(Danziger)
b. abt. 1821. Marcus' parents Hirsh Lieven b. abt. 1768 in Schlock and his

wife Sara (Levy) b. abt. 1788-89. Hirsh's father Levin Lieven. >from the
Feldmann's Hana Esther's` parents Itzik Orel Feldmann b. abt. 1836 and his

wife Schlove (Kantor) b. abt. 1837. Itzik's parents Gessel Feldmann b.
abt.
1806 in Tuckum and Rebecca (?) b. abt. 1820. Finally Gessel's father Aron
Feldmann. Any connections? Thank you.

Leonard Kessler at lkes50@hotmail.com
_