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Announcing ShtetlSchleppers 2001 Schedules #poland #lodz

Paul W. Ginsburg <pginsburg@...>
 

Can you remember what you did when you first discovered the name of your
ancestral shtetl? Did you try to find it on a map, or did you know to go
right to JewishGen's Shtetlseeker where lo and behold, there it was with a
star marking the exact location. You may have looked at that spot over and
over and began to dream about going there yourself someday. If that has been
your dream, it can become reality. JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers can take you
there.

Let 2001 be the year when you will actually visit that shtetl of your
ancestry, walk in the footsteps of your parents, your grandparents, your
great grand parents . As the Talmudic saying goes..."if not now, when? Let
this be the year that "when" becomes "now".

Explore the itineraries which take you to a hub city, provide the best in
touring sites of Jewish interest, introduce you to local leaders and then,
with your own private guide/driver/translator, really **live** the dream.
visit the place where your family originated. To get a better idea of making
this work for you..
<http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/>. And what about London2001,
the International Summer Seminar?

Whether your plans include visiting before or after, but definitely 'in
conjunction with' London2001, the International Jewish Genealogy Summer
Seminar, be sure to sign up early . You will not only be sure of reserving
space, but most importantly you'll allow plenty of time for productive
pre-research.

The plans and schedules for London2001 are now online and linked >from the
JewishGen home page. It's a tremendous program with more than enough to meet
every interest. Have you looked, have you made your conference or hotel
reservation? Before you make your airline reservations, come and take a look
at
http://www.jewishgen.org/London2001/travel.htm

With advance planning and some smooth scheduling on the part of Joanna
Fletcher, JewishGen's ShtetlSchlepper Travel Manager it may be possible to
include London in the flight package for a pre- or post- conference
ShtetlSchlepper package enabling savings on airfares.

Finally, to accommodate those who have either already visited their
ancestral origins or have not yet reached that point in their research to
take that step, ShtetlSchleppers has created two or three-country cultural
tours
where you can visit Prague & Vienna, or Prague, Vienna & Budapest, all three
known for their breathtaking architecture and rich in Jewish history. It's
all online awaiting your visit.
-scheduled group departures,
-customized independent travel,
-two or three country cultural tours, and finally
- favorable air fares >from most cities to London2001

So whatever your dreams, whatever your travel interests may be in
conjunction with the London conference, Let JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers take
you there!

http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/

Paul W. Ginsburg
ShtetlSchleppers Project Manager
pginsburg@jewishgen.org


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Announcing ShtetlSchleppers 2001 Schedules #lodz #poland

Paul W. Ginsburg <pginsburg@...>
 

Can you remember what you did when you first discovered the name of your
ancestral shtetl? Did you try to find it on a map, or did you know to go
right to JewishGen's Shtetlseeker where lo and behold, there it was with a
star marking the exact location. You may have looked at that spot over and
over and began to dream about going there yourself someday. If that has been
your dream, it can become reality. JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers can take you
there.

Let 2001 be the year when you will actually visit that shtetl of your
ancestry, walk in the footsteps of your parents, your grandparents, your
great grand parents . As the Talmudic saying goes..."if not now, when? Let
this be the year that "when" becomes "now".

Explore the itineraries which take you to a hub city, provide the best in
touring sites of Jewish interest, introduce you to local leaders and then,
with your own private guide/driver/translator, really **live** the dream.
visit the place where your family originated. To get a better idea of making
this work for you..
<http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/>. And what about London2001,
the International Summer Seminar?

Whether your plans include visiting before or after, but definitely 'in
conjunction with' London2001, the International Jewish Genealogy Summer
Seminar, be sure to sign up early . You will not only be sure of reserving
space, but most importantly you'll allow plenty of time for productive
pre-research.

The plans and schedules for London2001 are now online and linked >from the
JewishGen home page. It's a tremendous program with more than enough to meet
every interest. Have you looked, have you made your conference or hotel
reservation? Before you make your airline reservations, come and take a look
at
http://www.jewishgen.org/London2001/travel.htm

With advance planning and some smooth scheduling on the part of Joanna
Fletcher, JewishGen's ShtetlSchlepper Travel Manager it may be possible to
include London in the flight package for a pre- or post- conference
ShtetlSchlepper package enabling savings on airfares.

Finally, to accommodate those who have either already visited their
ancestral origins or have not yet reached that point in their research to
take that step, ShtetlSchleppers has created two or three-country cultural
tours
where you can visit Prague & Vienna, or Prague, Vienna & Budapest, all three
known for their breathtaking architecture and rich in Jewish history. It's
all online awaiting your visit.
-scheduled group departures,
-customized independent travel,
-two or three country cultural tours, and finally
- favorable air fares >from most cities to London2001

So whatever your dreams, whatever your travel interests may be in
conjunction with the London conference, Let JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers take
you there!

http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/

Paul W. Ginsburg
ShtetlSchleppers Project Manager
pginsburg@jewishgen.org


Re: The given name Leyb #general

Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

Hi Tom,

Leyb is Yiddish for Hebrew Arye (others: Leon, Lion, Lew, Lev). I do not
aware of the direct connection to Yehuda, but this used to be a common
combination in the double name: LeybYuda.
Regards and Happy Chanukah Greetings

Alex

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB

"Tom Venetianer" <tom.vene@uol.com.br> wrote in message

Dear all,

What kind of name is Leyb and how it relates to Yehuda? Is Leyb and
Lob the same name, just different spellings?

Many thanks
Tom

Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The given name Leyb #general

Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

Hi Tom,

Leyb is Yiddish for Hebrew Arye (others: Leon, Lion, Lew, Lev). I do not
aware of the direct connection to Yehuda, but this used to be a common
combination in the double name: LeybYuda.
Regards and Happy Chanukah Greetings

Alex

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB

"Tom Venetianer" <tom.vene@uol.com.br> wrote in message

Dear all,

What kind of name is Leyb and how it relates to Yehuda? Is Leyb and
Lob the same name, just different spellings?

Many thanks
Tom

Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Some thoughts #general

David Frey <dfrey@...>
 

Thank you for the many responses to the questions I put in my last
musings. After I have considered them all fully I will try and come
up with a summary which may prove useful to some but will certainly
not be scientific in any sense.

As you no doubt know by now, my passion has been to try and
understand that which will not leave me at peace. All of your
contributions will help. If there are more or you who want to
contribute but have not, (for what ever reason) please do.


Thank you again

David Frey
dfrey@bigpond.net.au
--
David Frey
Researching Beshincovichi, (Gildinsohn,, Steinhart)
K'lemnick,(Rabbi Avram Israel Gildinsohn, Gilden)
Dryhobitch (Frey), and
Ireland & Canada & USA (William Walsh) (Yes I know!)
Warsaw (Kaufman, Braf)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Some thoughts #general

David Frey <dfrey@...>
 

Thank you for the many responses to the questions I put in my last
musings. After I have considered them all fully I will try and come
up with a summary which may prove useful to some but will certainly
not be scientific in any sense.

As you no doubt know by now, my passion has been to try and
understand that which will not leave me at peace. All of your
contributions will help. If there are more or you who want to
contribute but have not, (for what ever reason) please do.


Thank you again

David Frey
dfrey@bigpond.net.au
--
David Frey
Researching Beshincovichi, (Gildinsohn,, Steinhart)
K'lemnick,(Rabbi Avram Israel Gildinsohn, Gilden)
Dryhobitch (Frey), and
Ireland & Canada & USA (William Walsh) (Yes I know!)
Warsaw (Kaufman, Braf)


Re: Questions posted here #ukraine

Dms1425@...
 

Although you stated that you hoped to offer some constructive criticism, I
feel strongly that you have effectively stated that those of us who are new
or not well versed in the genealogy "protocol" are not welcome, and our posts
are a waste of valuable time.

I have read the FAQ's on JewishGen and other sites (along with books,
articles, etc.); that is how I found my way here in the first place. All
those sources strongly encourage involvement with other researchers who have
"been there and done that," along with others who may be "fumbling around" at
the same time. I believed this forum to be the best way to interact with
others who were trying to achieve the same goals as I.

I worked on my family history for nearly a year before I subscribed to this
mailing list, and if my questions seem basic, I apologize. As you know, much
of the information we find can be confusing and seemingly contradictory. I
thought this forum was the appropriate place to seek help in finding answers
to my questions.

Thank you for your consideration,
Deborah Mann
dms1425@aol.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Questions posted here #ukraine

Dms1425@...
 

Although you stated that you hoped to offer some constructive criticism, I
feel strongly that you have effectively stated that those of us who are new
or not well versed in the genealogy "protocol" are not welcome, and our posts
are a waste of valuable time.

I have read the FAQ's on JewishGen and other sites (along with books,
articles, etc.); that is how I found my way here in the first place. All
those sources strongly encourage involvement with other researchers who have
"been there and done that," along with others who may be "fumbling around" at
the same time. I believed this forum to be the best way to interact with
others who were trying to achieve the same goals as I.

I worked on my family history for nearly a year before I subscribed to this
mailing list, and if my questions seem basic, I apologize. As you know, much
of the information we find can be confusing and seemingly contradictory. I
thought this forum was the appropriate place to seek help in finding answers
to my questions.

Thank you for your consideration,
Deborah Mann
dms1425@aol.com


JGS of Tampa Bay Meeting 12/10/00 #general

Baron, Mark A (FL51) <mark.a.baron@...>
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Tampa Bay
Meeting Sunday, December 10, 2000

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Tampa Bay will meet at the John F.
Germany Public Library Auditorium (formerly known as Tampa Public Library
Main Branch), at 900 N. Ashley St. in down-town Tampa on Sunday, December
10, 2000 at 2:00 P.M.

We are pleased to have as our guest speaker, Jerry Colen, historian,
attorney, and civil war buff, who will speak on "The Jewish Experience in
the Civil War." He will discuss Jewish participation in that war on both
the Union and Confederate sides. Jerry has had a lifetime interest in the
American Civil War and, particularly, in Jewish participation in that War.
Although he does not consider himself to be an expert in the subject, Jerry
is an ardent Civil War buff who enjoys talking about this aspect of Jewish
history.

As an added treat, Cantor William Hauben will be available >from 1:30 to
2:00 PM for free translation services to members. He is able to translate
Polish, Yiddish, Hebrew, German and Italian. Bring any documents or
letters with which you need help.

If you don't need a translation but are new to genealogy, come early at
1:30 PM for a beginners question and answer forum.

For further information or detailed directions to our meeting, feel free to
contact me

Mark Baron
President
mark_baron@yahoo.com
(727) 842-5789 (home)
(727) 539-4521 (office)

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Tampa Bay is a proud member of the
International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Tampa Bay Meeting 12/10/00 #general

Baron, Mark A (FL51) <mark.a.baron@...>
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Tampa Bay
Meeting Sunday, December 10, 2000

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Tampa Bay will meet at the John F.
Germany Public Library Auditorium (formerly known as Tampa Public Library
Main Branch), at 900 N. Ashley St. in down-town Tampa on Sunday, December
10, 2000 at 2:00 P.M.

We are pleased to have as our guest speaker, Jerry Colen, historian,
attorney, and civil war buff, who will speak on "The Jewish Experience in
the Civil War." He will discuss Jewish participation in that war on both
the Union and Confederate sides. Jerry has had a lifetime interest in the
American Civil War and, particularly, in Jewish participation in that War.
Although he does not consider himself to be an expert in the subject, Jerry
is an ardent Civil War buff who enjoys talking about this aspect of Jewish
history.

As an added treat, Cantor William Hauben will be available >from 1:30 to
2:00 PM for free translation services to members. He is able to translate
Polish, Yiddish, Hebrew, German and Italian. Bring any documents or
letters with which you need help.

If you don't need a translation but are new to genealogy, come early at
1:30 PM for a beginners question and answer forum.

For further information or detailed directions to our meeting, feel free to
contact me

Mark Baron
President
mark_baron@yahoo.com
(727) 842-5789 (home)
(727) 539-4521 (office)

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Tampa Bay is a proud member of the
International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies.


Re: Courland Estates #courland #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

Family lore is that he
left property behind, but his oldest daughter, Lucy dissuaded family member=
s
from any inquiry in the 1930's.
Andy, your g-aunt was correct. Any enquiries >from the United States of
America at that time would only have caused possible imprisonment of and
suffering to any of their family that was left in Russian Latvia. My
LEVINSON family also had property in Goldingen but the State Department
wrote at the time that discretion was the better part of valour, due to the
very tense cold war situation. And they added that they could not help at
that time.

Martha


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Re: Courland Estates #courland #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

Family lore is that he
left property behind, but his oldest daughter, Lucy dissuaded family member=
s
from any inquiry in the 1930's.
Andy, your g-aunt was correct. Any enquiries >from the United States of
America at that time would only have caused possible imprisonment of and
suffering to any of their family that was left in Russian Latvia. My
LEVINSON family also had property in Goldingen but the State Department
wrote at the time that discretion was the better part of valour, due to the
very tense cold war situation. And they added that they could not help at
that time.

Martha


Re: strategy for obtaining Belarus records #belarus

Jessica Schein <jesshschein@...>
 

Dear SIG Members,

from David Fox's descriptions it sounds as though there is a great deal
of activity going in copying Belarus records and getting a complete list
of the holdings. Getting microfilm made, as David said, should be the
first priority.

Preparing actual indicies or extracts of the entries is a very difficult
task. Given David's report on the condition of the original documents
is appears to me that it would make more sense to have any name indicies
prepared >from the microfilm. After all you need to have at least two
people review the records and you don't want to have to handle the
documents more than absolutely necessary.

As we are all aware, genealogical research takes time. I am happy just
to know that many of these records exist and will eventually be
available. And I am also thankful that David and the SIG leadership are
on top of this. (A brief status report on the projects twice a year
would be helpful.)

Jessica Schein
jesshschein@worldnet.att.net


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: strategy for obtaining Belarus records #belarus

Jessica Schein <jesshschein@...>
 

Dear SIG Members,

from David Fox's descriptions it sounds as though there is a great deal
of activity going in copying Belarus records and getting a complete list
of the holdings. Getting microfilm made, as David said, should be the
first priority.

Preparing actual indicies or extracts of the entries is a very difficult
task. Given David's report on the condition of the original documents
is appears to me that it would make more sense to have any name indicies
prepared >from the microfilm. After all you need to have at least two
people review the records and you don't want to have to handle the
documents more than absolutely necessary.

As we are all aware, genealogical research takes time. I am happy just
to know that many of these records exist and will eventually be
available. And I am also thankful that David and the SIG leadership are
on top of this. (A brief status report on the projects twice a year
would be helpful.)

Jessica Schein
jesshschein@worldnet.att.net


Re: United Brisker Benevolent Soc. #belarus

josephflum <libflum@...>
 

I have just read the information about the above by J. Seligsohn. I have
questions about the Society.
1- Are there first names for the members that are listed? e.g. M/M Chalfy,
M/M Newman, M/M Abramowitz
2- Is the list of members >from 1949 or 1935?
3- Is there any more information about Max Chalfy?
My grandfather, Harry Chalfy, and his brother, Morris Chalfy, are reprtedly
a couple of the members who founded the Brisk de Lita Benevolent Society.
My father, Morris Newman, became a member. Is there any connection?
Libby Flum


Belarus SIG #Belarus re: United Brisker Benevolent Soc. #belarus

josephflum <libflum@...>
 

I have just read the information about the above by J. Seligsohn. I have
questions about the Society.
1- Are there first names for the members that are listed? e.g. M/M Chalfy,
M/M Newman, M/M Abramowitz
2- Is the list of members >from 1949 or 1935?
3- Is there any more information about Max Chalfy?
My grandfather, Harry Chalfy, and his brother, Morris Chalfy, are reprtedly
a couple of the members who founded the Brisk de Lita Benevolent Society.
My father, Morris Newman, became a member. Is there any connection?
Libby Flum


Announcing ShtetlSchleppers 2001 Schedules #belarus

Paul W. Ginsburg <pginsburg@...>
 

Can you remember what you did when you first discovered the name of your
ancestral shtetl? Did you try to find it on a map, or did you know to go
right to JewishGen's Shtetlseeker where lo and behold, there it was with a
star marking the exact location. You may have looked at that spot over and
over and began to dream about going there yourself someday. If that has been
your dream, it can become reality. JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers can take you
there.

Let 2001 be the year when you will actually visit that shtetl of your
ancestry, walk in the footsteps of your parents, your grandparents, your
great grand parents . As the Talmudic saying goes..."if not now, when? Let
this be the year that "when" becomes "now".

Explore the itineraries which take you to a hub city, provide the best in
touring sites of Jewish interest, introduce you to local leaders and then,
with your own private guide/driver/translator, really **live** the dream.
visit the place where your family originated. To get a better idea of making
this work for you..
<http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/>. And what about London2001,
the International Summer Seminar?

Whether your plans include visiting before or after, but definitely 'in
conjunction with' London2001, the International Jewish Genealogy Summer
Seminar, be sure to sign up early . You will not only be sure of reserving
space, but most importantly you'll allow plenty of time for productive
pre-research.

The plans and schedules for London2001 are now online and linked >from the
JewishGen home page. It's a tremendous program with more than enough to meet
every interest. Have you looked, have you made your conference or hotel
reservation? Before you make your airline reservations, come and take a look
at
http://www.jewishgen.org/London2001/travel.htm

With advance planning and some smooth scheduling on the part of Joanna
Fletcher, JewishGen's ShtetlSchlepper Travel Manager it may be possible to
include London in the flight package for a pre- or post- conference
ShtetlSchlepper package enabling savings on airfares.

Finally, to accommodate those who have either already visited their
ancestral origins or have not yet reached that point in their research to
take that step, ShtetlSchleppers has created two or three-country cultural
tours
where you can visit Prague & Vienna, or Prague, Vienna & Budapest, all three
known for their breathtaking architecture and rich in Jewish history. It's
all online awaiting your visit.
-scheduled group departures,
-customized independent travel,
-two or three country cultural tours, and finally
- favorable air fares >from most cities to London2001

So whatever your dreams, whatever your travel interests may be in
conjunction with the London conference, Let JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers take
you there!

http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/

Paul W. Ginsburg
ShtetlSchleppers Project Manager
pginsburg@jewishgen.org


Belarus SIG #Belarus Announcing ShtetlSchleppers 2001 Schedules #belarus

Paul W. Ginsburg <pginsburg@...>
 

Can you remember what you did when you first discovered the name of your
ancestral shtetl? Did you try to find it on a map, or did you know to go
right to JewishGen's Shtetlseeker where lo and behold, there it was with a
star marking the exact location. You may have looked at that spot over and
over and began to dream about going there yourself someday. If that has been
your dream, it can become reality. JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers can take you
there.

Let 2001 be the year when you will actually visit that shtetl of your
ancestry, walk in the footsteps of your parents, your grandparents, your
great grand parents . As the Talmudic saying goes..."if not now, when? Let
this be the year that "when" becomes "now".

Explore the itineraries which take you to a hub city, provide the best in
touring sites of Jewish interest, introduce you to local leaders and then,
with your own private guide/driver/translator, really **live** the dream.
visit the place where your family originated. To get a better idea of making
this work for you..
<http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/>. And what about London2001,
the International Summer Seminar?

Whether your plans include visiting before or after, but definitely 'in
conjunction with' London2001, the International Jewish Genealogy Summer
Seminar, be sure to sign up early . You will not only be sure of reserving
space, but most importantly you'll allow plenty of time for productive
pre-research.

The plans and schedules for London2001 are now online and linked >from the
JewishGen home page. It's a tremendous program with more than enough to meet
every interest. Have you looked, have you made your conference or hotel
reservation? Before you make your airline reservations, come and take a look
at
http://www.jewishgen.org/London2001/travel.htm

With advance planning and some smooth scheduling on the part of Joanna
Fletcher, JewishGen's ShtetlSchlepper Travel Manager it may be possible to
include London in the flight package for a pre- or post- conference
ShtetlSchlepper package enabling savings on airfares.

Finally, to accommodate those who have either already visited their
ancestral origins or have not yet reached that point in their research to
take that step, ShtetlSchleppers has created two or three-country cultural
tours
where you can visit Prague & Vienna, or Prague, Vienna & Budapest, all three
known for their breathtaking architecture and rich in Jewish history. It's
all online awaiting your visit.
-scheduled group departures,
-customized independent travel,
-two or three country cultural tours, and finally
- favorable air fares >from most cities to London2001

So whatever your dreams, whatever your travel interests may be in
conjunction with the London conference, Let JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers take
you there!

http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/

Paul W. Ginsburg
ShtetlSchleppers Project Manager
pginsburg@jewishgen.org


indexing Belarus records #belarus

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

May I warmly thank all those who have taken the trouble to write to me
in large numbers, personally to express support of the idea recently
ventilated in the Dec 4th. SIG Newsletter- to index the Belarus Archival
Holdings, rather than individually to pursue family records.
We have the brilliant example of the JRI-Poland Indexing Project to use as
a blueprint & I am sure refinements will be suggested.
What I'd like to do is contact Susan King who is the founder & President of
Jewishgen & someone whose business sense & awareness of the problems of
Eastern European genealogy is supreme & see if she can take up the idea.
Then we would have the benefit of the Organization behind our fund-raising
efforts.
Make no mistake: this is all about money: if we don't raise enough, we
can't do it & life isn't cheap these days. Some can send money, some
can't-but if we spread the load, it might achieve far more than individual
lines of enquiry & also, by giving the Belarussians themselves the chance
to make some foreign currency, we help to preserve those very documents
we're all busting to view.
This of course doesn't stop the excellent work continuing to translate &
make available whatever information can be gleaned in the meantime. I welcome any imput, including criticism on this vital topic.

Regards,

Miriam MARGOLYES
Santa Monica
email: 75342.3217@compuserve.com

searching: STUPEL (Grodno) PACEWICZ (Grodno)
MARGOLYES (Indura)


Alexandrowska, Russia #belarus

Alvin Docton <adocton@...>
 

On my uncles Petition for Naturalization he said he was born in
Alexandrowska, Russia on January 22, 1889. Does anyone know if it is in the
Ukraine or Belarus.

I would appreciate any information you can provide me on this subject.
Looking for surnames of Frankel, Doctorovich, and Paretz. Thank you.

Alvin Docton
adocton@redrock.net
3008 Swiss Drive
Santa Clara, UT 84765