In reply to the question asked by Udi Cain on 20 November,
First name: Berko.
Place: Niezhin, Ukraine.
Time: Beginning of the 19th century.
Question: What is the Hebrew name for Berko?

in my early family in Lithuania, Berko was Dov Ber in English.

Beverley Davis in Melbourne, Australia

In reply to the question asked by Udi Cain on 20 November,
First name: Berko.
Place: Niezhin, Ukraine.
Time: Beginning of the 19th century.
Question: What is the Hebrew name for Berko?

in my early family in Lithuania, Berko was Dov Ber in English.

Beverley Davis in Melbourne, Australia

It is indeed in "the Warsaw area": "Varsovie" is what the French call
Warsaw (which is what English speakers call Warszawa). "Marszalkowska"
is a main boulevard in downtown Warsaw. The photographer, no doubt

from pretentions to "class", chose to put his name and address on his

work in French, the prestigious language of the day.

On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 03:17:38, bevphil@mindspring.com (bevphil) opined:

I have a professional photo with the following info on the back;

Institut Photographique
Sigismond & Co.
A Varsovie
111 Marszalkowska

This is >from a photo of my grandmother, taken sometime before
she came to the US in 1905. I am trying to pinpoint the town she
came from. I believe it would be in the Warsaw area.

Felix DeFalco
Atlanta GA

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com

PLEASE NOTE: Messages to the "From:" or "Reply to:" address of this
posting will NOT reach me, but will be deleted automatically unread.
Replace "sheol" with "stan". Please send plain text only.

It is indeed in "the Warsaw area": "Varsovie" is what the French call
Warsaw (which is what English speakers call Warszawa). "Marszalkowska"
is a main boulevard in downtown Warsaw. The photographer, no doubt

from pretentions to "class", chose to put his name and address on his

work in French, the prestigious language of the day.

On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 03:17:38, bevphil@mindspring.com (bevphil) opined:

I have a professional photo with the following info on the back;

Institut Photographique
Sigismond & Co.
A Varsovie
111 Marszalkowska

This is >from a photo of my grandmother, taken sometime before
she came to the US in 1905. I am trying to pinpoint the town she
came from. I believe it would be in the Warsaw area.

Felix DeFalco
Atlanta GA

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com

PLEASE NOTE: Messages to the "From:" or "Reply to:" address of this
posting will NOT reach me, but will be deleted automatically unread.
Replace "sheol" with "stan". Please send plain text only.

A message board for genealogy of Irish Jews can be found at
http://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb710811.

Shaul Ceder
Jerusalem, Israel

A message board for genealogy of Irish Jews can be found at
http://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb710811.

Shaul Ceder
Jerusalem, Israel

I am hoping that someone on this list will know how to
contact Prof. Harry J. Hirschhorn of Alfe MENASHE
Samaria, ISRAEL. The e-mail address he used in 1999
no longer works and the web address with his signature
is in Hebrew which I cannot read.

Thankyou in advance,
Lois Sernoff [Phila., PA, USA]
<JGLois@aol.com>

I am hoping that someone on this list will know how to
contact Prof. Harry J. Hirschhorn of Alfe MENASHE
Samaria, ISRAEL. The e-mail address he used in 1999
no longer works and the web address with his signature
is in Hebrew which I cannot read.

Thankyou in advance,
Lois Sernoff [Phila., PA, USA]
<JGLois@aol.com>

Harry Fox writes:
"I would appreciate hearing about or getting information on Jewish
cemeteries in the area of Siematyce, Bedzin, Olkusz and other areas of what
was Zaglembia."

The following is a list of Jewish cemeteries in Zaglembie. I have
personally visted most of them:

Bedzin - ul. Podzamcze
Bedzin - ul. Zawale (now a park)
Bedzin - ul. Sielecka (bus terminal)
Czeladz - ul. Czealdzka 64 (also used by Bedzin community)
Sosnowiec - ul. Gospodarcza 1
Sosnowiec (Modzejow) - ul. Niwka Pastewna
Sosnowiec (Milowice) - ul. Stalowa
Dabrowa Gornicza - ul. Wolka 5
Dabrowa gornicza - ul. Mydlice
Wolbrom - ul. Skalska
Zawiercie - ul. Daszynskiego
Kromolow - ul. Piaskowa 29
Olkusz - ul. Kopalniana
Olkusz - ul. Olowiana
Boleslaw - Krzykawka 139 (used by Slawkow community)

I have many photos of these cemeteries.

You should also consult the following:

Daab, Alezandra, Macewy Bedzinskie [Bedzin Jewish Tombstones]. Katowice:
Urzad Miejski w Bedzinie, 1993.

Derus, Malgorzata and Dariusz Walerjanski, "Cmentarze zydowskie w
wojewosdstwie katowickim [Jewish Cemeteries in the Province of Katowice],"
in Cmentarze zydowskie. Wroclaw: Towarzystwo Przyjacol Polonistyki
Wroclawskiej, 1995, pp. 155-165.

Rozmus, Dariusz, Cmentarze Zydowskie Ziemi Olkusziej [The Jewish Cemeteries
in the Olkusz Region]. Krakow: Oficyna Cracovia, 1999.

Rozmus, Dariusz, "Nowe Dane Dotyczace Cmentarzy Zydowskich w Dawnym
Powiecie Olkuskim w Granicach Administracyjnch do 1975 r [New Data on
Jewish Cemeteries in the Former County of Olkusz Within the Administrative
Boundaries Up to 1975]," in Ochrona Zabytkow 1999 Nr. 1, pp. 68-72.

Rozmus, Dariusz, "Slady Polichromii na Nagrobkach z Obszaru Dawnego Powiatu
Olkuskiego [Treces of Polychromy on Jewish Gravestones in the Former County
of Olkusz]," in Ochrona Zabytkow 2000 Nr. 1, pp. 85-92.

Walerjanski, Dariusz, "Cmentarze Zydowskie w Wojewodztwie Katowickim -
Historia, Stan Zachowania, Problemy Ochrony [Jewish Cemeteries in the
Katowice Voivodship - History, State Preservatio, Protection Problems]," in
Ochrona Zabytkow 1998, no. 3, pp. 246-257.

For your information a book listing every tombtone in the Zawiercie
cemetery will be published shortly.

Also, I am involved in a project to publish a book on the old Jewish
cemetery in Bedzin which dates back to 1808. Anyone interested in this
book, please contact me.

Jeffrey Cymbler

Researching: ADLERFLIEGEL, BACHMAN, CYMBLER, MONSZAJN, GUTSZAJN,
POSMANTIER, RUZINEK, CYGUS -- all >from the ZAGLEMBIE AREA OF POLAND
(BEDZIN, SOSNOWIEC, CZELADZ, DABROWA GORNICZA, ZAWIERCIE, KROMOLOW,
SLAWKOW)

Harry Fox writes:
"I would appreciate hearing about or getting information on Jewish
cemeteries in the area of Siematyce, Bedzin, Olkusz and other areas of what
was Zaglembia."

The following is a list of Jewish cemeteries in Zaglembie. I have
personally visted most of them:

Bedzin - ul. Podzamcze
Bedzin - ul. Zawale (now a park)
Bedzin - ul. Sielecka (bus terminal)
Czeladz - ul. Czealdzka 64 (also used by Bedzin community)
Sosnowiec - ul. Gospodarcza 1
Sosnowiec (Modzejow) - ul. Niwka Pastewna
Sosnowiec (Milowice) - ul. Stalowa
Dabrowa Gornicza - ul. Wolka 5
Dabrowa gornicza - ul. Mydlice
Wolbrom - ul. Skalska
Zawiercie - ul. Daszynskiego
Kromolow - ul. Piaskowa 29
Olkusz - ul. Kopalniana
Olkusz - ul. Olowiana
Boleslaw - Krzykawka 139 (used by Slawkow community)

I have many photos of these cemeteries.

You should also consult the following:

Daab, Alezandra, Macewy Bedzinskie [Bedzin Jewish Tombstones]. Katowice:
Urzad Miejski w Bedzinie, 1993.

Derus, Malgorzata and Dariusz Walerjanski, "Cmentarze zydowskie w
wojewosdstwie katowickim [Jewish Cemeteries in the Province of Katowice],"
in Cmentarze zydowskie. Wroclaw: Towarzystwo Przyjacol Polonistyki
Wroclawskiej, 1995, pp. 155-165.

Rozmus, Dariusz, Cmentarze Zydowskie Ziemi Olkusziej [The Jewish Cemeteries
in the Olkusz Region]. Krakow: Oficyna Cracovia, 1999.

Rozmus, Dariusz, "Nowe Dane Dotyczace Cmentarzy Zydowskich w Dawnym
Powiecie Olkuskim w Granicach Administracyjnch do 1975 r [New Data on
Jewish Cemeteries in the Former County of Olkusz Within the Administrative
Boundaries Up to 1975]," in Ochrona Zabytkow 1999 Nr. 1, pp. 68-72.

Rozmus, Dariusz, "Slady Polichromii na Nagrobkach z Obszaru Dawnego Powiatu
Olkuskiego [Treces of Polychromy on Jewish Gravestones in the Former County
of Olkusz]," in Ochrona Zabytkow 2000 Nr. 1, pp. 85-92.

Walerjanski, Dariusz, "Cmentarze Zydowskie w Wojewodztwie Katowickim -
Historia, Stan Zachowania, Problemy Ochrony [Jewish Cemeteries in the
Katowice Voivodship - History, State Preservatio, Protection Problems]," in
Ochrona Zabytkow 1998, no. 3, pp. 246-257.

For your information a book listing every tombtone in the Zawiercie
cemetery will be published shortly.

Also, I am involved in a project to publish a book on the old Jewish
cemetery in Bedzin which dates back to 1808. Anyone interested in this
book, please contact me.

Jeffrey Cymbler

Researching: ADLERFLIEGEL, BACHMAN, CYMBLER, MONSZAJN, GUTSZAJN,
POSMANTIER, RUZINEK, CYGUS -- all >from the ZAGLEMBIE AREA OF POLAND
(BEDZIN, SOSNOWIEC, CZELADZ, DABROWA GORNICZA, ZAWIERCIE, KROMOLOW,
SLAWKOW)

Dear Mrs. Wegner:

To clarify my earlier message - there is no doubt that ther are times that
a translation was used - Zev/Wolf/Velvel being an example, and thus your
posts are wonderful and important. However a "Shprintsa" was never ever
called "Esperantsa" and "Feivush" was never ever called "Phoebus". In these
cases and so many others etymology is not relevant. Perhaps a line should
be drawn between "etymological roots" and "nicknames and translations".
One of the things we at the Brandler Institute is working on is getting
copies of lists of names that was used by Rabbinical courts in Eastern
Europe - such lists would include every Jewish name and its relevant
"nickname" in use before the war. Since this is type of material is not
sold, we hope to work with the peresent day Rabbinical court system in
acquiring these lists. Perhaps sometime in the future we culd create a
database that could be place on the web.
At the risk of being repetitous - I do wish to point out once again that
the vast majority of names used in the Ninteenth and early twentieth
century remains in use to this very day in the Chasidic community, and such
it was not a question of etymology but rather a moments thought about all
the present day "Zev's" that are also called "Velvel" that prompted my
response.

Abraham J. Heschel

Brandler Institute of Chasidic Thought
Brooklyn NY

Dear Mrs. Wegner:

To clarify my earlier message - there is no doubt that ther are times that
a translation was used - Zev/Wolf/Velvel being an example, and thus your
posts are wonderful and important. However a "Shprintsa" was never ever
called "Esperantsa" and "Feivush" was never ever called "Phoebus". In these
cases and so many others etymology is not relevant. Perhaps a line should
be drawn between "etymological roots" and "nicknames and translations".
One of the things we at the Brandler Institute is working on is getting
copies of lists of names that was used by Rabbinical courts in Eastern
Europe - such lists would include every Jewish name and its relevant
"nickname" in use before the war. Since this is type of material is not
sold, we hope to work with the peresent day Rabbinical court system in
acquiring these lists. Perhaps sometime in the future we culd create a
database that could be place on the web.
At the risk of being repetitous - I do wish to point out once again that
the vast majority of names used in the Ninteenth and early twentieth
century remains in use to this very day in the Chasidic community, and such
it was not a question of etymology but rather a moments thought about all
the present day "Zev's" that are also called "Velvel" that prompted my
response.

Abraham J. Heschel

Brandler Institute of Chasidic Thought
Brooklyn NY

Zeev or Zev can also be Velvel,

Abraham J. Heschel

Dear Abraham,

You are absolutely correct. But that's exactly why I strongly disagree
with your previous message, in which you claimed that the etymology or
semantics of names is not relevant to this list. Here is a case in point,
in which -- right after denying the relevance -- you yourself proved just
how relevant it is! If one knows that Ze'ev means "Wolf" in Hebrew and
that the name Velvel is an affectionate diminutive for "Wolf" in German or
Yiddish, then one will automatically recognize that, as you just said,
"Ze'ev can also be Velvel."

That's precisely why I, for one, send etymological explanations to the
list -- so that people will be able to figure things like this out for
themselves in future! So, I simply cannot agree with your thesis that the
etymology and semantics of names is not relevant or important on Jewishgen.

Judith Romney Wegner

Zeev or Zev can also be Velvel,

Abraham J. Heschel

Dear Abraham,

You are absolutely correct. But that's exactly why I strongly disagree
with your previous message, in which you claimed that the etymology or
semantics of names is not relevant to this list. Here is a case in point,
in which -- right after denying the relevance -- you yourself proved just
how relevant it is! If one knows that Ze'ev means "Wolf" in Hebrew and
that the name Velvel is an affectionate diminutive for "Wolf" in German or
Yiddish, then one will automatically recognize that, as you just said,
"Ze'ev can also be Velvel."

That's precisely why I, for one, send etymological explanations to the
list -- so that people will be able to figure things like this out for
themselves in future! So, I simply cannot agree with your thesis that the
etymology and semantics of names is not relevant or important on Jewishgen.

Judith Romney Wegner

'Genners,

The note below appeared in today's Ancestry Daily News. Gloversville,
NY, had a sizable Jewish population at this time in its history. You
may wish to take advantage of the free 10-day access, especially if
your ancestors arrived in North America early and settled in upstate
NY.

Regards,
Donna Dinberg
Librarian, JGS of Ottawa (Canada)
donna.dinberg@nlc-bnc.ca

<Al opinions expressed are mine and are not intended
to reflect those of my employer.>

Databases Of The Day (Free for 10 Days!)

Gloversville, New York Directories, 1890-93

Located in upstate New York, the city of Gloversville forms part of
Fulton County. This database is a transcription of city directories
originally published in 1890, 1891, 1892, and 1893. In addition to
providing the residents' names, it provides their addresses and
occupational information. The database includes more than 44,100
names, mostly heads of household.

Source Information: Ancestry.com. "Gloversville, New York
Directories, 1890-93." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com,
2000. Original data: "Gloversville, NY, 1890." Gloversville, NY: O.H.
Bame, 1890; "Gloversville, NY, 1891." Gloversville, NY: O.H. Bame,
1891; "Gloversville, NY, 1892." Gloversville, NY: O.H. Bame, 1892;
"Gloversville, NY, 1893." Gloversville, NY: O.H. Bame, 1893.

To search this database, go to:
http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5223.htm

This database is also included in the 1890 Census Reconstruction
Project and can be searched through its main page at:
http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/1890sub/main.htm

'Genners,

The note below appeared in today's Ancestry Daily News. Gloversville,
NY, had a sizable Jewish population at this time in its history. You
may wish to take advantage of the free 10-day access, especially if
your ancestors arrived in North America early and settled in upstate
NY.

Regards,
Donna Dinberg
Librarian, JGS of Ottawa (Canada)
donna.dinberg@nlc-bnc.ca

<Al opinions expressed are mine and are not intended
to reflect those of my employer.>

Databases Of The Day (Free for 10 Days!)

Gloversville, New York Directories, 1890-93

Located in upstate New York, the city of Gloversville forms part of
Fulton County. This database is a transcription of city directories
originally published in 1890, 1891, 1892, and 1893. In addition to
providing the residents' names, it provides their addresses and
occupational information. The database includes more than 44,100
names, mostly heads of household.

Source Information: Ancestry.com. "Gloversville, New York
Directories, 1890-93." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com,
2000. Original data: "Gloversville, NY, 1890." Gloversville, NY: O.H.
Bame, 1890; "Gloversville, NY, 1891." Gloversville, NY: O.H. Bame,
1891; "Gloversville, NY, 1892." Gloversville, NY: O.H. Bame, 1892;
"Gloversville, NY, 1893." Gloversville, NY: O.H. Bame, 1893.

To search this database, go to:
http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5223.htm

This database is also included in the 1890 Census Reconstruction
Project and can be searched through its main page at:
http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/1890sub/main.htm

The Belarus SIG is pleased to annouce the following new information on the
Belarus SIG (http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus)...

-Jewish surnames >from the Minsk Gubernia - by Vitaly Charny. A list of
over 5500 surnames that have appeared in various 1900-1914 records.

-The 1842 Creation of Kovno Guberniya Changed the Borders of the Vilna
Guberniya and Grodno Guberniya - by Ellen Sadove Renck

-MultiMap.com - A clickable map of Belarus

-List of tavern, etc. owners in Minsk and their taxation (in Rubles per
year) - 1880 Minsk Gubernia Vedomosti #1, by Larissa Charny

-The Transliteration and Translation Aids section of the Belarus Resources
page has been enhanced to have information on Cyrillic and Yiddish
transliteration, and Cyrillic script.

Edward Rosenbaum
Bergenfield, NJ
Webmaster, Belarus SIG (http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus)
President, JGS of Bergen County, New Jersey
(http://www.crosswinds.nett/~erosenbaum/jgsbc)
email: erosenbaum@mail.com

The Belarus SIG is pleased to annouce the following new information on the
Belarus SIG (http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus)...

-Jewish surnames >from the Minsk Gubernia - by Vitaly Charny. A list of
over 5500 surnames that have appeared in various 1900-1914 records.

-The 1842 Creation of Kovno Guberniya Changed the Borders of the Vilna
Guberniya and Grodno Guberniya - by Ellen Sadove Renck

-MultiMap.com - A clickable map of Belarus

-List of tavern, etc. owners in Minsk and their taxation (in Rubles per
year) - 1880 Minsk Gubernia Vedomosti #1, by Larissa Charny

-The Transliteration and Translation Aids section of the Belarus Resources
page has been enhanced to have information on Cyrillic and Yiddish
transliteration, and Cyrillic script.

Edward Rosenbaum
Bergenfield, NJ
Webmaster, Belarus SIG (http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus)
President, JGS of Bergen County, New Jersey
(http://www.crosswinds.nett/~erosenbaum/jgsbc)
email: erosenbaum@mail.com

I have complied a list of all those buried in the Kosminer Society, Old
Montefiore Cemetery, NYC

This society is for people >from the town of Kuzmin, Podolsk Gubernia, near
Gorodok at 49 15 / 26 31.

If you want a copy of the list (excel spreadsheet) let me know.

Bobby Furst
Redondo Beach, CA

use this e-mail address
bobby1st@sprynet.com

I have complied a list of all those buried in the Kosminer Society, Old
Montefiore Cemetery, NYC

This society is for people >from the town of Kuzmin, Podolsk Gubernia, near
Gorodok at 49 15 / 26 31.

If you want a copy of the list (excel spreadsheet) let me know.

Bobby Furst
Redondo Beach, CA

use this e-mail address
bobby1st@sprynet.com