Date   

Bricha (fwd) #belarus

roman.vilner@...
 

I am sure that I speak for many people here when I say
that we'd also appreciate people sharing information
on "Bricha" (i.e. in a public domain). It's something I
have not heard of & would certainly like to learn.

Roman Vilner
---------------------- Forwarded Message: ---------------------
From: Francine Schwartz <pinsk2@yahoo.com>
To: "Belarus SIG" <belarus@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: Bricha
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:04:49 -0800 (PST)

I recently posted a message regarding Bricha and
judging by some answers I received I thhink it was not
understood.
Bricha was not a ship - it was a secret organization
constructed in the late months of WW II to help
repatriate Russian Jews to Palestine. It was a
clandestine organization and involved carrying
documents and money to save the Jews who were in
Siberia and get them out to Palestine. The were two
points of origin one of the cities was Pinsk. If
anyone has information, especially those who reside in
Israel, I would greatly appreciate feedback to my
private e-mail - pinsk2@yahoo.com

Thank you.
Francine M. Schwartz
New York


Belarus SIG #Belarus Bricha (fwd) #belarus

roman.vilner@...
 

I am sure that I speak for many people here when I say
that we'd also appreciate people sharing information
on "Bricha" (i.e. in a public domain). It's something I
have not heard of & would certainly like to learn.

Roman Vilner
---------------------- Forwarded Message: ---------------------
From: Francine Schwartz <pinsk2@yahoo.com>
To: "Belarus SIG" <belarus@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: Bricha
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:04:49 -0800 (PST)

I recently posted a message regarding Bricha and
judging by some answers I received I thhink it was not
understood.
Bricha was not a ship - it was a secret organization
constructed in the late months of WW II to help
repatriate Russian Jews to Palestine. It was a
clandestine organization and involved carrying
documents and money to save the Jews who were in
Siberia and get them out to Palestine. The were two
points of origin one of the cities was Pinsk. If
anyone has information, especially those who reside in
Israel, I would greatly appreciate feedback to my
private e-mail - pinsk2@yahoo.com

Thank you.
Francine M. Schwartz
New York


Prof. Dobronski #belarus

Merv & Naomi Barnett
 

Hello all

Some time ago I wrote to the secretary (in Israel) of the Grodno
Landsmanshaft regarding information about my late mother's family. He
suggested I contact a Professor Dobronski (who he described as a
righteous gentile) to get further information.

I understand this man lives in Grodno/Poland/in the vicinity. I did not
get any further replies >from the Grodno Landsmanshaft secretary so I am
now turning to the knowledge of the Belarus SIG to see if this man is
known.

Naomi Barnett
Melbourne
Australia
reply to barnett@netspace.net.au

VOHLSHTEIN, Zelwe, REIZER, Grodno


Re: warszawa digest: November 11, 2000 #warsaw #poland

Barbara Master <ourgenes@...>
 

Hello again Hadassah,
I had just volunteered and did not give my snail mail address.
Barbara Master

Eugene, OR 97405

MoDERATOR's NOTE: address deleted for privacy, better send it privately. This time I did not delete the quotes, for pedagogical purpose ....



----------

From: "Warszawa Research Group digest" <warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org>
To: "warszawa digest recipients" <warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: warszawa digest: November 11, 2000
Date: Sat, Nov 11, 2000, 10:00 PM
This list is supported by JewishGen. Please show
your appreciation and support by visiting
http://www.jewishgen.org/Jewishgen-erosity/
WARSZAWA Digest for Saturday, November 11, 2000.

1. RE: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry
2. RE: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry
3. A Volunteer to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry
4. Re: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: RE: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry
From: Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@flashcom.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:29:48 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

Anita:

Thanks for your offer to help. Just a few questions...

Do you use Windows or Mac?
Do you have Excel on your computer and are you familiar with using it?
How much can I send you at one time?
What surnames are you researching >from Warsaw?

If all seems compatible then please give me your snail mail address and I
will send you the data and instructions.

thanks again

Hadassah


-----Original Message-----
From: asleuth@bellsouth.net [SMTP:asleuth@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 1:42 AM
To: Warszawa Research Group
Subject: Re: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry

This list is supported by JewishGen. Please show
your appreciation and support by visiting
http://www.jewishgen.org/Jewishgen-erosity/
Am interested in helping with this project. Let me know what I need to do.
Since I have a personal interest in the Warszwa records I would be very
interested in helping to get them entered for the members to use.
Anita Drexler

Hadassah Lipsius wrote:

This list is supported by JewishGen. Please show
your appreciation and support by visiting
http://www.jewishgen.org/Jewishgen-erosity/
Once again the Douglas E. Goldman Jewish Genealogy Center (DOROT) has
provided the Warsaw Shtetl CO-OP with extract pages >from the LDS
Microfilms. The recent shipment contains Birth, Marriage and Death Records
from 1836, 1840-43 and 1851. Miriam Segali, the volunteer at Dorot, has
translated the records and hand written the information on to large ledger
sheets. Volunteers are needed to enter Miriam's hand written information
onto Excel Spreadsheets. You don't have to know any Polish to do this
work.
If you would like to volunteer please contact me.

Hadassah Lipsius
Kew Gardens Hills, NY
Warsaw Shtetl CO-OP coordinator
JRI-Poland

This Research Group (warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org
---
You are currently subscribed to warszawa as: [asleuth@bellsouth.net]
To unsubscribe send email to $subst('Email.Unsub')

This Research Group (warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org
---
You are currently subscribed to warszawa as: [Kesher@flashcom.net]
To unsubscribe send email to $subst('Email.Unsub')

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: RE: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry
From: "Max Heffler" <max@texsys.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 06:53:55 -0600
X-Message-Number: 2

I would like to help

-----Original Message-----
From: Hadassah Lipsius [mailto:kesher@flashcom.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 8:45 PM
To: Warszawa Research Group
Subject: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data
entry


This list is supported by JewishGen. Please show
your appreciation and support by visiting
http://www.jewishgen.org/Jewishgen-erosity/
Once again the Douglas E. Goldman Jewish Genealogy Center (DOROT) has
provided the Warsaw Shtetl CO-OP with extract pages >from the LDS
Microfilms. The recent shipment contains Birth, Marriage and Death Records
from 1836, 1840-43 and 1851. Miriam Segali, the volunteer at Dorot, has
translated the records and hand written the information on to large ledger
sheets. Volunteers are needed to enter Miriam's hand written information
onto Excel Spreadsheets. You don't have to know any Polish to do this
work.
If you would like to volunteer please contact me.

Hadassah Lipsius
Kew Gardens Hills, NY
Warsaw Shtetl CO-OP coordinator
JRI-Poland


This Research Group (warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org
---
You are currently subscribed to warszawa as: [max@texsys.com]
To unsubscribe send email to $subst('Email.Unsub')


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: A Volunteer to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry
From: "Allan E. Mallenbaum" <genealogista@nais.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:31:28 -0500
X-Message-Number: 3

------Transcript of session follows -------
kesher@flashcom.net
553 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1)
Subject: Warsaw Spreadsheet Entry
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:35:44 -0500
From: "Allan E. Mallenbaum" <genealogista@nais.com>
To: kesher@flashcom.net

------Transcript of session follows -------
kesher@flashcom.net
553 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1)

Subject:
Warsaw Spreadsheet Entry
Date:
Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:35:44 -0500
From:
"Allan E. Mallenbaum" <genealogista@nais.com>
To:
kesher@flashcom.net

Hadassah, Nata la legge, trovato l'ingano.

Hadassah,
I'll be glad to find a few hours in
the next month or so to transcribe some Warsaw
records. Send me details by e-mail and/or G-mail.

-- A. Eliyahu Mallenbaum
Plainview, NY 11803-1428
<GenealogistA@nais.com>

_R_E_S_E_A_R_C_H_I_N_G_ <<<<<<
CZECH REPUBLIC
**Praha (Prague)**
LANDAU, (Rabbi Yechezkiel)
LITHUANIA
**Jonava**
KAGAN (COHEN)
POLAND
**Ciechanow**
ROBOTA
TROM(B)KA
GARBARZ
SCHMIDT
BENDET
ABRAMS
ELKIN
GOLDSTEIN
ALT(H)US
DIAMENT
PASS
SILVERMAN
MORRIS
**Warszawa**
MAL(L)ENBAUM
RUSSIA
**Moscow**
MALENBAUM
UKRAINE
**Berdichev**
LEVI YITZCHAK (Rabbi)
**Chernigov**
NISENBAUM
(G)HECHTMAN
**Lezajsk**
WEISBLOOM, (Rabbi Elimelech)
**Ostroh/Ostrog**
MALLENBAUM
**Uman**
LANDAU
BRAILOVSKY



----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry
From: "Nicole Berline" <nberline@club-internet.fr>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:15:05 +0100
X-Message-Number: 4

Hadassah
I volounteer.
Are these microfilms the last ones which have not been computerized yet ?

___________________________________

Once again the Douglas E. Goldman Jewish Genealogy Center (DOROT) has
provided the Warsaw Shtetl CO-OP with extract pages >from the LDS
Microfilms. The recent shipment contains Birth, Marriage and Death Records
from 1836, 1840-43 and 1851. Miriam Segali, the volunteer at Dorot, has
translated the records and hand written the information on to large ledger
sheets. Volunteers are needed to enter Miriam's hand written information
onto Excel Spreadsheets. You don't have to know any Polish to do this
work.
If you would like to volunteer please contact me.





---

END OF DIGEST

This Research Group (warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org
---
You are currently subscribed to warszawa as: [ourgenes@yahoo.com]
To unsubscribe send email to $subst('Email.Unsub')


Belarus SIG #Belarus Prof. Dobronski #belarus

Merv & Naomi Barnett
 

Hello all

Some time ago I wrote to the secretary (in Israel) of the Grodno
Landsmanshaft regarding information about my late mother's family. He
suggested I contact a Professor Dobronski (who he described as a
righteous gentile) to get further information.

I understand this man lives in Grodno/Poland/in the vicinity. I did not
get any further replies >from the Grodno Landsmanshaft secretary so I am
now turning to the knowledge of the Belarus SIG to see if this man is
known.

Naomi Barnett
Melbourne
Australia
reply to barnett@netspace.net.au

VOHLSHTEIN, Zelwe, REIZER, Grodno


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Re: warszawa digest: November 11, 2000 #warsaw #poland

Barbara Master <ourgenes@...>
 

Hello again Hadassah,
I had just volunteered and did not give my snail mail address.
Barbara Master

Eugene, OR 97405

MoDERATOR's NOTE: address deleted for privacy, better send it privately. This time I did not delete the quotes, for pedagogical purpose ....



----------

From: "Warszawa Research Group digest" <warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org>
To: "warszawa digest recipients" <warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: warszawa digest: November 11, 2000
Date: Sat, Nov 11, 2000, 10:00 PM
This list is supported by JewishGen. Please show
your appreciation and support by visiting
http://www.jewishgen.org/Jewishgen-erosity/
WARSZAWA Digest for Saturday, November 11, 2000.

1. RE: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry
2. RE: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry
3. A Volunteer to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry
4. Re: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: RE: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry
From: Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@flashcom.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:29:48 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

Anita:

Thanks for your offer to help. Just a few questions...

Do you use Windows or Mac?
Do you have Excel on your computer and are you familiar with using it?
How much can I send you at one time?
What surnames are you researching >from Warsaw?

If all seems compatible then please give me your snail mail address and I
will send you the data and instructions.

thanks again

Hadassah


-----Original Message-----
From: asleuth@bellsouth.net [SMTP:asleuth@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 1:42 AM
To: Warszawa Research Group
Subject: Re: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry

This list is supported by JewishGen. Please show
your appreciation and support by visiting
http://www.jewishgen.org/Jewishgen-erosity/
Am interested in helping with this project. Let me know what I need to do.
Since I have a personal interest in the Warszwa records I would be very
interested in helping to get them entered for the members to use.
Anita Drexler

Hadassah Lipsius wrote:

This list is supported by JewishGen. Please show
your appreciation and support by visiting
http://www.jewishgen.org/Jewishgen-erosity/
Once again the Douglas E. Goldman Jewish Genealogy Center (DOROT) has
provided the Warsaw Shtetl CO-OP with extract pages >from the LDS
Microfilms. The recent shipment contains Birth, Marriage and Death Records
from 1836, 1840-43 and 1851. Miriam Segali, the volunteer at Dorot, has
translated the records and hand written the information on to large ledger
sheets. Volunteers are needed to enter Miriam's hand written information
onto Excel Spreadsheets. You don't have to know any Polish to do this
work.
If you would like to volunteer please contact me.

Hadassah Lipsius
Kew Gardens Hills, NY
Warsaw Shtetl CO-OP coordinator
JRI-Poland

This Research Group (warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org
---
You are currently subscribed to warszawa as: [asleuth@bellsouth.net]
To unsubscribe send email to $subst('Email.Unsub')

This Research Group (warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org
---
You are currently subscribed to warszawa as: [Kesher@flashcom.net]
To unsubscribe send email to $subst('Email.Unsub')

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: RE: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry
From: "Max Heffler" <max@texsys.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 06:53:55 -0600
X-Message-Number: 2

I would like to help

-----Original Message-----
From: Hadassah Lipsius [mailto:kesher@flashcom.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 8:45 PM
To: Warszawa Research Group
Subject: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data
entry


This list is supported by JewishGen. Please show
your appreciation and support by visiting
http://www.jewishgen.org/Jewishgen-erosity/
Once again the Douglas E. Goldman Jewish Genealogy Center (DOROT) has
provided the Warsaw Shtetl CO-OP with extract pages >from the LDS
Microfilms. The recent shipment contains Birth, Marriage and Death Records
from 1836, 1840-43 and 1851. Miriam Segali, the volunteer at Dorot, has
translated the records and hand written the information on to large ledger
sheets. Volunteers are needed to enter Miriam's hand written information
onto Excel Spreadsheets. You don't have to know any Polish to do this
work.
If you would like to volunteer please contact me.

Hadassah Lipsius
Kew Gardens Hills, NY
Warsaw Shtetl CO-OP coordinator
JRI-Poland


This Research Group (warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org
---
You are currently subscribed to warszawa as: [max@texsys.com]
To unsubscribe send email to $subst('Email.Unsub')


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: A Volunteer to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry
From: "Allan E. Mallenbaum" <genealogista@nais.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:31:28 -0500
X-Message-Number: 3

------Transcript of session follows -------
kesher@flashcom.net
553 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1)
Subject: Warsaw Spreadsheet Entry
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:35:44 -0500
From: "Allan E. Mallenbaum" <genealogista@nais.com>
To: kesher@flashcom.net

------Transcript of session follows -------
kesher@flashcom.net
553 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1)

Subject:
Warsaw Spreadsheet Entry
Date:
Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:35:44 -0500
From:
"Allan E. Mallenbaum" <genealogista@nais.com>
To:
kesher@flashcom.net

Hadassah, Nata la legge, trovato l'ingano.

Hadassah,
I'll be glad to find a few hours in
the next month or so to transcribe some Warsaw
records. Send me details by e-mail and/or G-mail.

-- A. Eliyahu Mallenbaum
Plainview, NY 11803-1428
<GenealogistA@nais.com>

_R_E_S_E_A_R_C_H_I_N_G_ <<<<<<
CZECH REPUBLIC
**Praha (Prague)**
LANDAU, (Rabbi Yechezkiel)
LITHUANIA
**Jonava**
KAGAN (COHEN)
POLAND
**Ciechanow**
ROBOTA
TROM(B)KA
GARBARZ
SCHMIDT
BENDET
ABRAMS
ELKIN
GOLDSTEIN
ALT(H)US
DIAMENT
PASS
SILVERMAN
MORRIS
**Warszawa**
MAL(L)ENBAUM
RUSSIA
**Moscow**
MALENBAUM
UKRAINE
**Berdichev**
LEVI YITZCHAK (Rabbi)
**Chernigov**
NISENBAUM
(G)HECHTMAN
**Lezajsk**
WEISBLOOM, (Rabbi Elimelech)
**Ostroh/Ostrog**
MALLENBAUM
**Uman**
LANDAU
BRAILOVSKY



----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry
From: "Nicole Berline" <nberline@club-internet.fr>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:15:05 +0100
X-Message-Number: 4

Hadassah
I volounteer.
Are these microfilms the last ones which have not been computerized yet ?

___________________________________

Once again the Douglas E. Goldman Jewish Genealogy Center (DOROT) has
provided the Warsaw Shtetl CO-OP with extract pages >from the LDS
Microfilms. The recent shipment contains Birth, Marriage and Death Records
from 1836, 1840-43 and 1851. Miriam Segali, the volunteer at Dorot, has
translated the records and hand written the information on to large ledger
sheets. Volunteers are needed to enter Miriam's hand written information
onto Excel Spreadsheets. You don't have to know any Polish to do this
work.
If you would like to volunteer please contact me.





---

END OF DIGEST

This Research Group (warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org
---
You are currently subscribed to warszawa as: [ourgenes@yahoo.com]
To unsubscribe send email to $subst('Email.Unsub')


Julian dates #belarus

Eleanor Platt Q.C. <kbx62@...>
 

Elaine
The first step must surely be to find out when Christmas fell in the Julian
calendar. Dont assume it was 25 December. It may br I just dont know. Then
when you have a date there is a programme of Jewish calendar many of us
have, including me! that changes a month >from Julian/Gregorian /Hebrew. So
if you get the actul date you want then we can help.
Eleanor Lind
London UK


Belarus SIG #Belarus Julian dates #belarus

Eleanor Platt Q.C. <kbx62@...>
 

Elaine
The first step must surely be to find out when Christmas fell in the Julian
calendar. Dont assume it was 25 December. It may br I just dont know. Then
when you have a date there is a programme of Jewish calendar many of us
have, including me! that changes a month >from Julian/Gregorian /Hebrew. So
if you get the actul date you want then we can help.
Eleanor Lind
London UK


Re: warszawa digest: November 10, 2000 #warsaw #poland

Barbara Master <ourgenes@...>
 

Hello Hadassah,

I would like to volunteer to transcribe the LDS films >from Dorot onto Excel.
I have done some before and I have special interest in Warsaw because my
2Ggrandmotherhad a boarding house for rabbi's there. My grandparents also
met and possibly married in Warsaw.

I look forward to hearing >from you.

Barbara Master

MODERATOR's NOTE: long quotes deleted.


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Re: warszawa digest: November 10, 2000 #warsaw #poland

Barbara Master <ourgenes@...>
 

Hello Hadassah,

I would like to volunteer to transcribe the LDS films >from Dorot onto Excel.
I have done some before and I have special interest in Warsaw because my
2Ggrandmotherhad a boarding house for rabbi's there. My grandparents also
met and possibly married in Warsaw.

I look forward to hearing >from you.

Barbara Master

MODERATOR's NOTE: long quotes deleted.


Re: Sailing from Rotterdam --passenger manifest list #ukraine

SRivkin742@...
 

If you know the ship and year - the passenger manifest should
be on microfilm at the National Archives - worth checking anyway -
if you checked through the mormons perhaps they had a microfilm
error - I have heard of such occaisional errors


-Steve


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Sailing from Rotterdam --passenger manifest list #ukraine

SRivkin742@...
 

If you know the ship and year - the passenger manifest should
be on microfilm at the National Archives - worth checking anyway -
if you checked through the mormons perhaps they had a microfilm
error - I have heard of such occaisional errors


-Steve


Re: Submission standards #yizkorbooks

Carol Edan <caroled@...>
 

Shalom,

As a volunteer HTMLer I would like to add some of my observations. Recently
I received 4 chapters to be added to a book that were in HTML format.
Contrary to thought that this format may help us in our work, it is the
exactly the opposite. Many programs for changing word documents to HTML use
many tags/commands that are superfluous and not in standards of pages on the
site. The time making/deleting/changing all these commands is quite time
consuming. I found that I had to copy /paste the material on a new document
and transfer it to a new html blank page.

I have found that the bests formats are- plain text documents-, and Word
documents.

Thanks

Carol Monosson Edan

Researching
MONOSSON/POLEY- Moscow/ Mogilev/Gomel
ARONSON/PRICE-Augustow/Kalvarija
RABINOVITZ-Novogrodok
MUSHNITSKY-Russia
MARCU/LEIBOVITZ-Iasi,Roumania


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks RE: Submission standards #yizkorbooks

Carol Edan <caroled@...>
 

Shalom,

As a volunteer HTMLer I would like to add some of my observations. Recently
I received 4 chapters to be added to a book that were in HTML format.
Contrary to thought that this format may help us in our work, it is the
exactly the opposite. Many programs for changing word documents to HTML use
many tags/commands that are superfluous and not in standards of pages on the
site. The time making/deleting/changing all these commands is quite time
consuming. I found that I had to copy /paste the material on a new document
and transfer it to a new html blank page.

I have found that the bests formats are- plain text documents-, and Word
documents.

Thanks

Carol Monosson Edan

Researching
MONOSSON/POLEY- Moscow/ Mogilev/Gomel
ARONSON/PRICE-Augustow/Kalvarija
RABINOVITZ-Novogrodok
MUSHNITSKY-Russia
MARCU/LEIBOVITZ-Iasi,Roumania


Re: Sailing from Rotterdam #ukraine

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Shalom, Hal!
You might check the Holland America Passenger Manifest Indexes and lists. They're
on microfiche, and available through the Mormon Library. They were written at the
time of leaving Holland, and include the names, passage paid, and a bit more
information. Not as informative as the arrival passenger lists, but better than
nothing. They're written in Dutch, but that's easier to visually translate than
Cyrllic <g>.

At least it would confirm the ship and date....

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia
(one of your fellow GENKIN researchers <g>)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Sailing from Rotterdam #ukraine

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Shalom, Hal!
You might check the Holland America Passenger Manifest Indexes and lists. They're
on microfiche, and available through the Mormon Library. They were written at the
time of leaving Holland, and include the names, passage paid, and a bit more
information. Not as informative as the arrival passenger lists, but better than
nothing. They're written in Dutch, but that's easier to visually translate than
Cyrllic <g>.

At least it would confirm the ship and date....

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia
(one of your fellow GENKIN researchers <g>)


Re: Where is Grodnek ??? #ukraine

RONC1VSNY@...
 

Yoav,

I would think that Grodnek would be Grodny in Belarus. If not,
there is a Gorodnok now Horodnok about 23 kilometers west of Lviv.
Also a Girnyk north of Lviv and just south of Sokol.

Ron Cutler

Searching: KOTLYAR, DINITZ, SCHWARTZ, ROTHMAN, GALITSKY, GOLDBERG,
KRASNOFF, ZOLORATOV. Kamenets-Podolsk, Khotin, Kirovohrad.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Where is Grodnek ??? #ukraine

RONC1VSNY@...
 

Yoav,

I would think that Grodnek would be Grodny in Belarus. If not,
there is a Gorodnok now Horodnok about 23 kilometers west of Lviv.
Also a Girnyk north of Lviv and just south of Sokol.

Ron Cutler

Searching: KOTLYAR, DINITZ, SCHWARTZ, ROTHMAN, GALITSKY, GOLDBERG,
KRASNOFF, ZOLORATOV. Kamenets-Podolsk, Khotin, Kirovohrad.


Re: funeral and cemetery records #ukraine

Barbara Harris <maybug@...>
 

The message below suggests a general question that may be of use to many of
us. I tried to wrestle some information about what background info Har
Nebo (Phila) had on a couple family graves. (Who made arrangements, gave
them info, etc.) Har Nebo didn't say they didn't have the info, but that
I couldn't have it. As these were my ancestors.... Any suggestions?
Don't the descendents have some sort of right to that information. I can
see that it might sometimes be very useful to know who paid for or arranged
for a burial.

Another local cemetery was very helpful giving me info of that sort about
the husband of an aunt of mine and his parents who were buried there. I
learned new things: a second new first name for my aunt, and that her
husband and his parents were born in England, everyone's address at the
time of death, etc.

Barbara Harris


The person paying for the funeral expenses may have done so because
he was the financial officer (in charge of burial expenses) of the
Landsmanshaftn to which the decedent was a member, not because he was
a relative. He may have very well been related but that might have
been merely a coincidence.
Lois Sernoff <JGLois@aol.com>


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: funeral and cemetery records #ukraine

Barbara Harris <maybug@...>
 

The message below suggests a general question that may be of use to many of
us. I tried to wrestle some information about what background info Har
Nebo (Phila) had on a couple family graves. (Who made arrangements, gave
them info, etc.) Har Nebo didn't say they didn't have the info, but that
I couldn't have it. As these were my ancestors.... Any suggestions?
Don't the descendents have some sort of right to that information. I can
see that it might sometimes be very useful to know who paid for or arranged
for a burial.

Another local cemetery was very helpful giving me info of that sort about
the husband of an aunt of mine and his parents who were buried there. I
learned new things: a second new first name for my aunt, and that her
husband and his parents were born in England, everyone's address at the
time of death, etc.

Barbara Harris


The person paying for the funeral expenses may have done so because
he was the financial officer (in charge of burial expenses) of the
Landsmanshaftn to which the decedent was a member, not because he was
a relative. He may have very well been related but that might have
been merely a coincidence.
Lois Sernoff <JGLois@aol.com>