Hello,
My grandfather's birth certificate (born in 1874 in Tornyos Nemeti) was
issued by the rabinate in Abaujszina in 1911. Does anybody know whether the
records of the rabinate >from Abaujszina-Sena still exist?

Ivan Kovac
Silver Spring,MD

Hello,
My grandfather's birth certificate (born in 1874 in Tornyos Nemeti) was
issued by the rabinate in Abaujszina in 1911. Does anybody know whether the
records of the rabinate >from Abaujszina-Sena still exist?

Ivan Kovac
Silver Spring,MD

Evening folks,

Hope you don't mind me asking you to visit

www.biotechsworld.com

and tell me what you think about it.



I set up the English/German site for a German client who
wants to spread the word in Germany about biotechnology. As
I just love genealogy I persuaded him to add a page about it
as related to DNA. He's inviting everyone to give their
opinion and also to help out with interesting links .. book
references etc. Maybe even articles >from experts !? He would
then translate them to German. We have a couple of links to
sites
that deal with Jewish genealogy and DNA. If you know of any
interesting sites please let us know.



Cheers Jane Lachs in Munich

www.bolsterstone.de

www.janelachs.de

Evening folks,

Hope you don't mind me asking you to visit

www.biotechsworld.com

and tell me what you think about it.



I set up the English/German site for a German client who
wants to spread the word in Germany about biotechnology. As
I just love genealogy I persuaded him to add a page about it
as related to DNA. He's inviting everyone to give their
opinion and also to help out with interesting links .. book
references etc. Maybe even articles >from experts !? He would
then translate them to German. We have a couple of links to
sites
that deal with Jewish genealogy and DNA. If you know of any
interesting sites please let us know.



Cheers Jane Lachs in Munich

www.bolsterstone.de

www.janelachs.de

11/16/00

While "Friedman" was a certainly a generic name given to Jewish
families in the 19th century, I am, nonetheless, trying to locate
descendants of Herman Friedman whose last known address was 433 Graham
Avenue in Brooklyn. He is the younger brother of my grandfather Wolf
(Wilhelm) Friedmann who died in Soloc (Slavkovce) , Hungary in 1924.
Herman had three daughters: Carrie, Lily and Jennie who would probably be in
their 70's or 80's today.

Except for my mother and two of her sisters who emigrated in the 20's,
the rest of the Friedman(n)s were killed in the war. I only found out about
this surviving branch of the family on a visit to an elderly cousin this past
August.

Any leads or comments will be helpful.

Thank you.

Dorothy (Moskowitz) Falarski
California

11/16/00

While "Friedman" was a certainly a generic name given to Jewish
families in the 19th century, I am, nonetheless, trying to locate
descendants of Herman Friedman whose last known address was 433 Graham
Avenue in Brooklyn. He is the younger brother of my grandfather Wolf
(Wilhelm) Friedmann who died in Soloc (Slavkovce) , Hungary in 1924.
Herman had three daughters: Carrie, Lily and Jennie who would probably be in
their 70's or 80's today.

Except for my mother and two of her sisters who emigrated in the 20's,
the rest of the Friedman(n)s were killed in the war. I only found out about
this surviving branch of the family on a visit to an elderly cousin this past
August.

Any leads or comments will be helpful.

Thank you.

Dorothy (Moskowitz) Falarski
California

THOMAS AARON, SR. was my great-great-great-great-grandfather on my mother's
side.
He is the only direct male ancestor in this line (to have lived in the USA )
whose birth and death dates are not known. He most probably was born
before 1763 & died after 1811.
THOMAS AARON, JR. my next link was born 2-1-1787 & died 11-1860. Was
married in Latrobe,Pa.
in 1815.
Everything that can be obtained >from family documents has been done.
Are there records available for synagogues of eastern Pa. for the late
1700's and where might they be located?
Thanks for your help
Tom Maher Irwin, Pa.

THOMAS AARON, SR. was my great-great-great-great-grandfather on my mother's
side.
He is the only direct male ancestor in this line (to have lived in the USA )
whose birth and death dates are not known. He most probably was born
before 1763 & died after 1811.
THOMAS AARON, JR. my next link was born 2-1-1787 & died 11-1860. Was
married in Latrobe,Pa.
in 1815.
Everything that can be obtained >from family documents has been done.
Are there records available for synagogues of eastern Pa. for the late
1700's and where might they be located?
Thanks for your help
Tom Maher Irwin, Pa.

Any genetic disease can occur anywhere. Ask Stanley Diamond who thought
thalassemia was Mediterranean. The difference is the prevalence of the
disease (and the gene) in a certain population. So sickle cell anemia
is primarily found in blacks (>from a certain part of Africa) but can
appear in others. The Tay-Sachs gene is much more common and was first
identified in Ashkenazi Jews >from NE Poland, but it can also appear in
anyone >from any population group.

A mutation can occur in anyone at any time. If the mutation occurs in
an egg or sperm, then it can be passed on to more generations. Whether
a mutation becomes common depends on a number of factors. It was
theorized (read that to mean guessed) that some Ashkenazi Jew in NE
Poland about 1700 happened to have the gene and passed it on to some of
his descendants-we all know how common marriages between cousins were in
Europe-and some of those had children with 2 copies of the gene, one

from each parent so they had Tay-Sachs disease.

A similar situation occurred with the sickle cell gene, but that is
supposed to protect >from the worst effects of malaria (the same thing
with thalassemia). In the parts of Africa where malaria was endemic,
the gene became amazingly common. Having 2 sickle genes, like 2
Tay-Sachs genes or 2 thalassemia genes is very bad; having one gene for
sickle cell anemia was good and the gene became common.

By the way, there are many diseases like Tay-Sachs which are found in
different populations. Gaucher's disease is one example. It is similar
in effect to Tay-Sachs, but has a different gene and is found in
different people; a baby born with 2 Gaucher genes is just as likely to
die as a baby. Tay-Sachs was the first genetic disease for which
screening of potential parents was developed because of the limited
population at high risk, the prevalence of Jews in medical research, and
the interest and ability of potential parents to pay for the test.

So, no, your English ancestors do not have Jews hiding in their family
tree-French Canadian is also a possibility and so is none of the above.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY

Any genetic disease can occur anywhere. Ask Stanley Diamond who thought
thalassemia was Mediterranean. The difference is the prevalence of the
disease (and the gene) in a certain population. So sickle cell anemia
is primarily found in blacks (>from a certain part of Africa) but can
appear in others. The Tay-Sachs gene is much more common and was first
identified in Ashkenazi Jews >from NE Poland, but it can also appear in
anyone >from any population group.

A mutation can occur in anyone at any time. If the mutation occurs in
an egg or sperm, then it can be passed on to more generations. Whether
a mutation becomes common depends on a number of factors. It was
theorized (read that to mean guessed) that some Ashkenazi Jew in NE
Poland about 1700 happened to have the gene and passed it on to some of
his descendants-we all know how common marriages between cousins were in
Europe-and some of those had children with 2 copies of the gene, one

from each parent so they had Tay-Sachs disease.

A similar situation occurred with the sickle cell gene, but that is
supposed to protect >from the worst effects of malaria (the same thing
with thalassemia). In the parts of Africa where malaria was endemic,
the gene became amazingly common. Having 2 sickle genes, like 2
Tay-Sachs genes or 2 thalassemia genes is very bad; having one gene for
sickle cell anemia was good and the gene became common.

By the way, there are many diseases like Tay-Sachs which are found in
different populations. Gaucher's disease is one example. It is similar
in effect to Tay-Sachs, but has a different gene and is found in
different people; a baby born with 2 Gaucher genes is just as likely to
die as a baby. Tay-Sachs was the first genetic disease for which
screening of potential parents was developed because of the limited
population at high risk, the prevalence of Jews in medical research, and
the interest and ability of potential parents to pay for the test.

So, no, your English ancestors do not have Jews hiding in their family
tree-French Canadian is also a possibility and so is none of the above.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY

Hi Jewishgen-ners,
I know "kajt" in CJ means "chain" and I know Beider lists Kajtler and
Kajtel as occupational Polish surname variants. Would Kajter be a
similar variant of that name? (I came across one Rajzla Kajter e.g. at
the Hrubieszov listings at Jewishgen.)
I have been desperately looking for etymological clues to our original
surname (which was Romanised in the 1920ies and then in 1977 Germanised
to its current form), and would really be glad to have an expert look
into this...
Thanks!!

Tess
TessCaiter@t-online.de

Hi Jewishgen-ners,
I know "kajt" in CJ means "chain" and I know Beider lists Kajtler and
Kajtel as occupational Polish surname variants. Would Kajter be a
similar variant of that name? (I came across one Rajzla Kajter e.g. at
the Hrubieszov listings at Jewishgen.)
I have been desperately looking for etymological clues to our original
surname (which was Romanised in the 1920ies and then in 1977 Germanised
to its current form), and would really be glad to have an expert look
into this...
Thanks!!

Tess
TessCaiter@t-online.de

Would some kind JewishGenner please look up the death notice for William
MORANTZ in the Philly papers and E-mail the obit. to me. The Soc. Sec.
Death Index lists his death as Sept. 20, 2000.

Please reply privately. I will be happy to reciprocate with lookup of
Montreal papers.

Norman Morantz
Montreal

Would some kind JewishGenner please look up the death notice for William
MORANTZ in the Philly papers and E-mail the obit. to me. The Soc. Sec.
Death Index lists his death as Sept. 20, 2000.

Please reply privately. I will be happy to reciprocate with lookup of
Montreal papers.

Norman Morantz
Montreal

From: Eric Haas <erichaas@home.com>
If the person you are interested in does not appear in the SSDI, you will
have to provide proof of death. The Social Security Administration will
accept a copy of the death certificate, or a death notice or obituary

from the newspaper.

Unless the Social Security Administration (SSA) has changed it's
requirements, this is not true. I made 2 requests for an ancestor's SS-5
by modifying a standard letter produced by http://www.ancestry.com/ in
which I included the person's name at time of death, birth date, death
date, last residence, if known, parent's names, and check for $16.50 (the
cost when you don't know the Social Security Number (SSN); it's $7.00 when
you do know it). I did not include any proof of death. In one case the
record was found, and in the other it was not. In the case where the
record was not found I had thought she might not have had one since other
records asking for a SSN were blank. See "Guide to Freedom of Information
Act Requests" (below) -- there is no proof of death requirement.

I've also been following along the conversations about what is contained
in an SS-5 Application and what is contained in the "Master Files of
Social Security Number (SSN) Holders and SSN Applications, HHS/SSA/OSR".
SSA describes their files at:
http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/bluebook/09600058.htm

Information about the "Original Social Security Number Application Forms"
can be found at:
http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssnforms.html

Other pages of interest:
List of Historical Documents:
http://www.ssa.gov/history/brief.html
Part 2: Social Security Since 1935:
http://www.ssa.gov/history/history6.html

More specifically, those with questions about what/how to make requests
should refer to:

(1) Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ):
http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html
refer to Q9: What information is available >from Social Security
records to help in genealogical research?

(2) "Guide to Freedom of Information Act Requests"
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/foia_guide.htm
Summary:
(a) no form is required
(b) include your name and address on the request
(c) include a daytime telephone number
(d) do not include a return envelope
(e) write on your envelope and the letter "FREEDOM OF INFORMATION
REQUEST " or "INFORMATION REQUEST."
(f) if requesting copies of applications for social security
numbers (Form SS-5) for people who are deceased, address your request to:
Social Security Administration
OEO FOIA Workgroup
300 N. Greene Street
P.O. Box 33022
Baltimore, Maryland 21290-3022
(g) all other FOIA requests, send to:
Office of Disclosure Policy,
3-A-6 Operations Building,
6401 Security Boulevard,
Baltimore, Maryland, 21235
(h) You can also write or give your written request to any Social
Security field office
(i) FEES
- Social Security Number application search when you have the
number - $7.00
- Social Security Number application search when you don't have
the number. In these cases we need identifying information (name, place
and date of birth, father's full name, and mother's given and maiden
names) to find the record - $16.50
- Search for a claim file - $14
- Photocopying material(s) - 10 cents per page plus postage

Next: why are some records present and not others. Read the "Background"
and "Results of Review" sections and "Some Deaths Were Not Recorded in the
DMF" (page 5 of appendix B) contained in "Improving the Usefulness of the
Social Security Administration's Death Master File" located at:
http://www.ssa.gov/oig/adobepdf/98-61011.pdf

Jeanne Gold
California, USA

From: Eric Haas <erichaas@home.com>
If the person you are interested in does not appear in the SSDI, you will
have to provide proof of death. The Social Security Administration will
accept a copy of the death certificate, or a death notice or obituary

from the newspaper.

Unless the Social Security Administration (SSA) has changed it's
requirements, this is not true. I made 2 requests for an ancestor's SS-5
by modifying a standard letter produced by http://www.ancestry.com/ in
which I included the person's name at time of death, birth date, death
date, last residence, if known, parent's names, and check for $16.50 (the
cost when you don't know the Social Security Number (SSN); it's $7.00 when
you do know it). I did not include any proof of death. In one case the
record was found, and in the other it was not. In the case where the
record was not found I had thought she might not have had one since other
records asking for a SSN were blank. See "Guide to Freedom of Information
Act Requests" (below) -- there is no proof of death requirement.

I've also been following along the conversations about what is contained
in an SS-5 Application and what is contained in the "Master Files of
Social Security Number (SSN) Holders and SSN Applications, HHS/SSA/OSR".
SSA describes their files at:
http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/bluebook/09600058.htm

Information about the "Original Social Security Number Application Forms"
can be found at:
http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssnforms.html

Other pages of interest:
List of Historical Documents:
http://www.ssa.gov/history/brief.html
Part 2: Social Security Since 1935:
http://www.ssa.gov/history/history6.html

More specifically, those with questions about what/how to make requests
should refer to:

(1) Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ):
http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html
refer to Q9: What information is available >from Social Security
records to help in genealogical research?

(2) "Guide to Freedom of Information Act Requests"
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/foia_guide.htm
Summary:
(a) no form is required
(b) include your name and address on the request
(c) include a daytime telephone number
(d) do not include a return envelope
(e) write on your envelope and the letter "FREEDOM OF INFORMATION
REQUEST " or "INFORMATION REQUEST."
(f) if requesting copies of applications for social security
numbers (Form SS-5) for people who are deceased, address your request to:
Social Security Administration
OEO FOIA Workgroup
300 N. Greene Street
P.O. Box 33022
Baltimore, Maryland 21290-3022
(g) all other FOIA requests, send to:
Office of Disclosure Policy,
3-A-6 Operations Building,
6401 Security Boulevard,
Baltimore, Maryland, 21235
(h) You can also write or give your written request to any Social
Security field office
(i) FEES
- Social Security Number application search when you have the
number - $7.00
- Social Security Number application search when you don't have
the number. In these cases we need identifying information (name, place
and date of birth, father's full name, and mother's given and maiden
names) to find the record - $16.50
- Search for a claim file - $14
- Photocopying material(s) - 10 cents per page plus postage

Next: why are some records present and not others. Read the "Background"
and "Results of Review" sections and "Some Deaths Were Not Recorded in the
DMF" (page 5 of appendix B) contained in "Improving the Usefulness of the
Social Security Administration's Death Master File" located at:
http://www.ssa.gov/oig/adobepdf/98-61011.pdf

Jeanne Gold
California, USA

I have posted the death certificate of L/ajb Jako'b Slowes on
Viewmate File VM 075. The language is Russian. He died in Warsaw
in 1893 and he might have been my great grandfather. Thanks in advance
for any help you can give me and I will make a donation to Jewishgen
in your honor.

Phyllis Goldberg
N. Bethesda, MD
My Email is stranddr@aol.com

I have posted the death certificate of L/ajb Jako'b Slowes on
Viewmate File VM 075. The language is Russian. He died in Warsaw
in 1893 and he might have been my great grandfather. Thanks in advance
for any help you can give me and I will make a donation to Jewishgen
in your honor.

Phyllis Goldberg
N. Bethesda, MD
My Email is stranddr@aol.com

we have come across a family member listed as being on the Board of the

Talmud Torah. Could someone please clarify what "Talmud Torah" would have
meant in the shtetl? >

Anne Johnston

Dear Anne,

I have seen no replies to your Talmud Torah question on the LitvakSIG and
related group noticeboards. I am a little uncertain whether this will be of
help, but here's my two cents' worth.

As someone who grew up in South Africa, a mainly Litvak community, I
remember well the constant discussion of my elders when I was a child
concerning the "Talmud Torah." I myself attended the Joseph Miller Talmud
Torah in Johannesburg's Southern Suburbs >from age four [!] until my
barmitzvah, moving on to the King David Jewish Day School in Linksfield. My
grandfather was on the Board of this Talmud Torah. Local references in
Jewish newspapers over the years to Talmud Torahs were of similar meaning:
The "Talmud Torah" was the Hebrew School attached to the synagogue,
generally attended each afternoon by the local community's children. We
referred to it as "Cheder," the Hebrew word for "room," and both "Cheder"
and "Talmud Torah" had their origins in the shtetl. Jewish children did not
go to state or other schools in "Der Heim" -- they went to
Jewish-administered educational establishments. Originally barred from
attending any other school, this was the only place of education for a
Jewish child, and the move to the newer, Western worlds with minor changes
to accommodate daily/compulsory, state-required morning school, was the
educational establishment that had worked for us for centuries -- the Hebrew
School, or "Cheder" which taught us how to read and write Hebrew, and in
earlier years, Yiddish as well, with the corresponding Judaic studies,
biblical and festival, literature and history. Since a Jewish child in the
shtetl had nowhere else to go, the Cheder became his [because it was
usually, but not always, confined to boys] place of overall learning,
literacy and guide to a way of life within the community. It has evolved
into today's Hebrew and Religious School, but this differs >from the original
like chalk >from cheese.

To study Torah, literally "Law", is to study a genealogical history of our
ancestors and the theocratic lifestyle commanded therein. But Judaism is to
the Torah as America to its Constitution -- one cannot exist without the
other, but can do little unless expanded upon and applied to daily life
situations, upgraded by the powers-that-be [Rabbis and Beth Dins, Supreme
Court and Senate and Congress], in order to be the "tree of life to those
who embrace it." The explanations, discussions, opinions and generally
accepted results of the "ongoing" talks on the subject were written down and
passed >from generation to generation and became Jewish Law -- the word "go"
in Hebrew = "Holaych", gives rise to the word "Halachah" -- the ongoing,
updated Jewish Law. And so, it is not the Torah that is Jewish Law, but
rather the interpretation based upon the Torah that scholars have determined
to protect the Torah throughout history, that has become Jewish Law; The
Hebrew word for "Learn" = "Lomed" changes with the distinctive "ooo" sound
of the passive voice to "Talmud," meaning "that which is learned or
studied". So, the Talmud Torah is nothing more nor less than the gathering
place where the Torah is studied, which, according to Jewish Law, is the
first place that needs to be erected by any Jewish community, since all
other Jewish activities can take place there, and the chief activity of Jews
is to study the Torah and Talmud. The Oral Law, or "Mishnah" is supplemented
by the discussions that become law, the completion or "Gemarah," which
together comprise the Talmud. The whole emphasis of Judaism is Study, to
understand that which the Divine wants us to accomplish and how to behave in
this life. Hence the importance of the "Talmud Torah," its import into the
New World, and the reverence for anyone who was entrusted with its execution
as being a Board Member -- implying knowledge, scholastic and leadership
qualities and one's standing within the community -- for the future of that
community's Jewish population and what it studied and the facilities
available to it, the emphasis of its core studies, the books chosen for the
studies, and the teachers chosen to supervise the young minds -- is awesome
in its scope and responsibility.

The Talmud Torah was the body that governed the Jewish learning process. It
raised the funds, chose the "melamdim" or teachers and ensured the passing
of Jewish knowledge "Midor ledor," >from generation to generation. Its
natural progression lead to the schools of higher learning -- the Yeshivot,
the Rabbinic schools and seminaries and even the establishment of the Beth
Din therefrom, since the credibility of the rabbis that form a Beth Din
cements its reputation within a community; there is a difference between a
Yale or Harvard and that of the local Community College, and its graduates
generally deserve the corresponding respect accorded them. >from humble
beginnings the great emerge. The Talmud Torah, a concept of teaching our
little ones, is the foundation for Judaic learning throughout the world.

DAVID CROOK
4800 SOUTH CHICAGO BEACH DRIVE
APARTMENT # 204 SOUTH
CHICAGO, ILLINOIS, 60615
TELEPHONE: [773] 924-6424
E-MAIL: CROOKFAMILY@prodigy.net

we have come across a family member listed as being on the Board of the

Talmud Torah. Could someone please clarify what "Talmud Torah" would have
meant in the shtetl? >

Anne Johnston

Dear Anne,

I have seen no replies to your Talmud Torah question on the LitvakSIG and
related group noticeboards. I am a little uncertain whether this will be of
help, but here's my two cents' worth.

As someone who grew up in South Africa, a mainly Litvak community, I
remember well the constant discussion of my elders when I was a child
concerning the "Talmud Torah." I myself attended the Joseph Miller Talmud
Torah in Johannesburg's Southern Suburbs >from age four [!] until my
barmitzvah, moving on to the King David Jewish Day School in Linksfield. My
grandfather was on the Board of this Talmud Torah. Local references in
Jewish newspapers over the years to Talmud Torahs were of similar meaning:
The "Talmud Torah" was the Hebrew School attached to the synagogue,
generally attended each afternoon by the local community's children. We
referred to it as "Cheder," the Hebrew word for "room," and both "Cheder"
and "Talmud Torah" had their origins in the shtetl. Jewish children did not
go to state or other schools in "Der Heim" -- they went to
Jewish-administered educational establishments. Originally barred from
attending any other school, this was the only place of education for a
Jewish child, and the move to the newer, Western worlds with minor changes
to accommodate daily/compulsory, state-required morning school, was the
educational establishment that had worked for us for centuries -- the Hebrew
School, or "Cheder" which taught us how to read and write Hebrew, and in
earlier years, Yiddish as well, with the corresponding Judaic studies,
biblical and festival, literature and history. Since a Jewish child in the
shtetl had nowhere else to go, the Cheder became his [because it was
usually, but not always, confined to boys] place of overall learning,
literacy and guide to a way of life within the community. It has evolved
into today's Hebrew and Religious School, but this differs >from the original
like chalk >from cheese.

To study Torah, literally "Law", is to study a genealogical history of our
ancestors and the theocratic lifestyle commanded therein. But Judaism is to
the Torah as America to its Constitution -- one cannot exist without the
other, but can do little unless expanded upon and applied to daily life
situations, upgraded by the powers-that-be [Rabbis and Beth Dins, Supreme
Court and Senate and Congress], in order to be the "tree of life to those
who embrace it." The explanations, discussions, opinions and generally
accepted results of the "ongoing" talks on the subject were written down and
passed >from generation to generation and became Jewish Law -- the word "go"
in Hebrew = "Holaych", gives rise to the word "Halachah" -- the ongoing,
updated Jewish Law. And so, it is not the Torah that is Jewish Law, but
rather the interpretation based upon the Torah that scholars have determined
to protect the Torah throughout history, that has become Jewish Law; The
Hebrew word for "Learn" = "Lomed" changes with the distinctive "ooo" sound
of the passive voice to "Talmud," meaning "that which is learned or
studied". So, the Talmud Torah is nothing more nor less than the gathering
place where the Torah is studied, which, according to Jewish Law, is the
first place that needs to be erected by any Jewish community, since all
other Jewish activities can take place there, and the chief activity of Jews
is to study the Torah and Talmud. The Oral Law, or "Mishnah" is supplemented
by the discussions that become law, the completion or "Gemarah," which
together comprise the Talmud. The whole emphasis of Judaism is Study, to
understand that which the Divine wants us to accomplish and how to behave in
this life. Hence the importance of the "Talmud Torah," its import into the
New World, and the reverence for anyone who was entrusted with its execution
as being a Board Member -- implying knowledge, scholastic and leadership
qualities and one's standing within the community -- for the future of that
community's Jewish population and what it studied and the facilities
available to it, the emphasis of its core studies, the books chosen for the
studies, and the teachers chosen to supervise the young minds -- is awesome
in its scope and responsibility.

The Talmud Torah was the body that governed the Jewish learning process. It
raised the funds, chose the "melamdim" or teachers and ensured the passing
of Jewish knowledge "Midor ledor," >from generation to generation. Its
natural progression lead to the schools of higher learning -- the Yeshivot,
the Rabbinic schools and seminaries and even the establishment of the Beth
Din therefrom, since the credibility of the rabbis that form a Beth Din
cements its reputation within a community; there is a difference between a
Yale or Harvard and that of the local Community College, and its graduates
generally deserve the corresponding respect accorded them. >from humble
beginnings the great emerge. The Talmud Torah, a concept of teaching our
little ones, is the foundation for Judaic learning throughout the world.

DAVID CROOK
4800 SOUTH CHICAGO BEACH DRIVE
APARTMENT # 204 SOUTH
CHICAGO, ILLINOIS, 60615
TELEPHONE: [773] 924-6424
E-MAIL: CROOKFAMILY@prodigy.net