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TROTSKY AS BRONSTEIN #ukraine

Pharmer329@...
 

Dear Udi,
I am at work now& don't have access to references, but Leon TROTSKY's real
name was BRONSTEIN. He came >from a rich family near Elizabethgrad now
Kirovohrad. I looked up his biography to see if there was a connection to my
family who were also BRONSTEIN >from in or near Kirovohrad ,but names didn't
match up to the people I had listed. No proof either way,but my family was
killed shortly after the failed October uprising,possibly as retaliation
against TROTSKY & possible relatives. Who knows we may be related & that's
why my gf never talked about the "old country".Hence , my interest in the
origin mystery posts. I guess I'll never know for sure unless my researcher
uncovers something about relatives.

Dennis BROWN (BRONSTEIN)
Cheltenham,Pa


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine TROTSKY AS BRONSTEIN #ukraine

Pharmer329@...
 

Dear Udi,
I am at work now& don't have access to references, but Leon TROTSKY's real
name was BRONSTEIN. He came >from a rich family near Elizabethgrad now
Kirovohrad. I looked up his biography to see if there was a connection to my
family who were also BRONSTEIN >from in or near Kirovohrad ,but names didn't
match up to the people I had listed. No proof either way,but my family was
killed shortly after the failed October uprising,possibly as retaliation
against TROTSKY & possible relatives. Who knows we may be related & that's
why my gf never talked about the "old country".Hence , my interest in the
origin mystery posts. I guess I'll never know for sure unless my researcher
uncovers something about relatives.

Dennis BROWN (BRONSTEIN)
Cheltenham,Pa


Re: No Passenger List-No Index Entry #general

Hilary Henkin <propper@...>
 

Dear Stacy,
I'm sorry you've been having such trouble with the US National Archives.
However, the problem may not be theirs. Since your Max was born in
Russia in 1881, it's probable (99.9%) that his original surname wasn't
HARRIS, and his given name may not have been "Max". If you submitted the
request for "Max HARRIS", they couldn't have found him.

Since you do have a ship name and date, I'd recommend you figure out a way
to view the passenger manifest yourself. You'll likely recognize familar
names and groups that a non-involved researcherr would miss. Either use a
local National Archives branch which has those films, or order them >from
the Mormon Family History Library. Look for someone with a surname
beginning with "H" or "G" (The "g" sound in Cyrllic is pronounced "h" in
American), of the Hebrew race, and >from Russia, maybe Tauregan.

If you think he traveled with others (parents, siblings, etc.), look for
the group traveling together. Keep an open mind for spelling variations,
and original Hebrew/Yiddish names.


I always recommend researchers review the lists themselves if at all
possible because of an experience I had personally My cousin had been
looking for the manifest of her grandparents BERESTEZKY for twenty years.
She submitted request after request to the INS, with every spelling
variation she could think of, with no luck. When I began my own research
a couple of years ago, I found my own grandfather's index listing. As I
reviewed the manifest, I was amazed to discover that he was travelling
with the husband and wife PERESTEZKY. His sister, my cousin's
grandparents. A quite understandable spelling error, considering the
pronunciation.

Good luck with your research!

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia


Re: old social security records #general

Hilary Henkin <propper@...>
 

Hi!
You can request an SS-5 without a SocSec #. The address is the same
(I don't have it handy, but it's easily found online), but the cost is
$16.50. And it may take many months for the search.

Although I suspect you're hoping to learn the date of death, if you should
happen to know that already and are searching for other info, you could
request a copy of the death certificate. It would include the SSN, if one
was issued. If not, you might try the various online death indexes, if one
exists for the area he/she lived. (There's a new one for Calif 1940-1997
at Ancestry.com - http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5180.htm)

Good luck!

Hilary Henkin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: No Passenger List-No Index Entry #general

Hilary Henkin <propper@...>
 

Dear Stacy,
I'm sorry you've been having such trouble with the US National Archives.
However, the problem may not be theirs. Since your Max was born in
Russia in 1881, it's probable (99.9%) that his original surname wasn't
HARRIS, and his given name may not have been "Max". If you submitted the
request for "Max HARRIS", they couldn't have found him.

Since you do have a ship name and date, I'd recommend you figure out a way
to view the passenger manifest yourself. You'll likely recognize familar
names and groups that a non-involved researcherr would miss. Either use a
local National Archives branch which has those films, or order them >from
the Mormon Family History Library. Look for someone with a surname
beginning with "H" or "G" (The "g" sound in Cyrllic is pronounced "h" in
American), of the Hebrew race, and >from Russia, maybe Tauregan.

If you think he traveled with others (parents, siblings, etc.), look for
the group traveling together. Keep an open mind for spelling variations,
and original Hebrew/Yiddish names.


I always recommend researchers review the lists themselves if at all
possible because of an experience I had personally My cousin had been
looking for the manifest of her grandparents BERESTEZKY for twenty years.
She submitted request after request to the INS, with every spelling
variation she could think of, with no luck. When I began my own research
a couple of years ago, I found my own grandfather's index listing. As I
reviewed the manifest, I was amazed to discover that he was travelling
with the husband and wife PERESTEZKY. His sister, my cousin's
grandparents. A quite understandable spelling error, considering the
pronunciation.

Good luck with your research!

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: old social security records #general

Hilary Henkin <propper@...>
 

Hi!
You can request an SS-5 without a SocSec #. The address is the same
(I don't have it handy, but it's easily found online), but the cost is
$16.50. And it may take many months for the search.

Although I suspect you're hoping to learn the date of death, if you should
happen to know that already and are searching for other info, you could
request a copy of the death certificate. It would include the SSN, if one
was issued. If not, you might try the various online death indexes, if one
exists for the area he/she lived. (There's a new one for Calif 1940-1997
at Ancestry.com - http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5180.htm)

Good luck!

Hilary Henkin


People with the same two given names #lithuania

andrea ziegelman <aziegelman@...>
 

People with the same two given names, and even with the same single given
name, may well be related. What helps is checking whether each of the people under investigation has brothers/sisters/father/mother/gf/gm who, for each of the investigated people , have the same given names.

In one of the families >from which I am descended, after listing the given
names of my uncles, gf and gggf, I discovered in the ALD about TEN families
with the same surname and all of the same given names. It must be that I am descended >from someone in those ten families.

I understand that what I need to do now is extend my recent family tree
backwards using the microfilmed Lithuanian vital records of the Mormons.

Kind regards, Andi Alpert Ziegelman

Researching-
FEINBERG in Kavarsk
MISHLI/MISHLER in Vilkomir/Ukmerge
COHEN in Vilkomir/Ukmerge
ALPEROVITCH in Vileika and Postawy


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania People with the same two given names #lithuania

andrea ziegelman <aziegelman@...>
 

People with the same two given names, and even with the same single given
name, may well be related. What helps is checking whether each of the people under investigation has brothers/sisters/father/mother/gf/gm who, for each of the investigated people , have the same given names.

In one of the families >from which I am descended, after listing the given
names of my uncles, gf and gggf, I discovered in the ALD about TEN families
with the same surname and all of the same given names. It must be that I am descended >from someone in those ten families.

I understand that what I need to do now is extend my recent family tree
backwards using the microfilmed Lithuanian vital records of the Mormons.

Kind regards, Andi Alpert Ziegelman

Researching-
FEINBERG in Kavarsk
MISHLI/MISHLER in Vilkomir/Ukmerge
COHEN in Vilkomir/Ukmerge
ALPEROVITCH in Vileika and Postawy


Re: help with ALD search results, redux #lithuania

Robert Strumwasser <robertstrum@...>
 

From: HOMARGOL@aol.com
My older brother was named, Melvin "Mendel" Margol. My first cousin is
also named Melvin "Mendel" Margol. They were both born within weeks of
one another and both were named after their common grandfather.

First, I'd like to thank those people who have tried to help with my
question. Unfortunately, I don't seem to have made myself too clear.

My question is basically this.....Because of Jewish naming traditions,
people who are related often bear the same first names (often with dates of
birth clustered just after the death of the individual they're being named
for). What I'm trying to determine is, if I find two different people with
the same surname >from the same shtetl who both have the same "double given
name" (e.g., Avrum Yankel), how likely is it that they are related?
Clearly, they _could_ be related, but I'm trying to get a sense, >from peoplemore experienced than myself, of how likely such a relationship is.

Also.....my other question seems to have gotten lost in responses to the
above question. I found an ALD entry of a given name of "...in" Does this mean that the first name ended in "in" and the first part was illegible? Or does it mean something else? Any thoughts?
Thnx again!

Robert Strumwasser
Sharon, MA, USA
RobertStrum@email.msn.com

Researching: >from Taurage, Lith: COHN, GLICKMAN, ROZ, SIEGAL, HURWITZ;
ABRAMAWITZ >from Taurage & Vainutas; any STRUMWASSER, STROMWASSER,
STRONGWATER, STONEWATER; >from Kamenets Pod., Ukr: JURIST, URIST, SAPOSNICK,
PETCHEKOVSKY, CZAP; >from Sadgura, Ukr: KARPEL, LOBL; KALTER >from Zhelibory &
Voynilov, Ukr; >from Sudilkov, Ukr: KUDISH, RUTFIELD, LERNER, KATZ; from
Rafalowka & Manevichi, Ukr: ROSENFELD, BRATT

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Because the last question in Robert's initial message may indeed have been "lost" to readers, this is a good time to remind Litvak SIG Digest subscribers that for your queries to be most effective, limit them to one or two (related) questions. Save additional and possibly unrelated questions for another message.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: help with ALD search results, redux #lithuania

Robert Strumwasser <robertstrum@...>
 

From: HOMARGOL@aol.com
My older brother was named, Melvin "Mendel" Margol. My first cousin is
also named Melvin "Mendel" Margol. They were both born within weeks of
one another and both were named after their common grandfather.

First, I'd like to thank those people who have tried to help with my
question. Unfortunately, I don't seem to have made myself too clear.

My question is basically this.....Because of Jewish naming traditions,
people who are related often bear the same first names (often with dates of
birth clustered just after the death of the individual they're being named
for). What I'm trying to determine is, if I find two different people with
the same surname >from the same shtetl who both have the same "double given
name" (e.g., Avrum Yankel), how likely is it that they are related?
Clearly, they _could_ be related, but I'm trying to get a sense, >from peoplemore experienced than myself, of how likely such a relationship is.

Also.....my other question seems to have gotten lost in responses to the
above question. I found an ALD entry of a given name of "...in" Does this mean that the first name ended in "in" and the first part was illegible? Or does it mean something else? Any thoughts?
Thnx again!

Robert Strumwasser
Sharon, MA, USA
RobertStrum@email.msn.com

Researching: >from Taurage, Lith: COHN, GLICKMAN, ROZ, SIEGAL, HURWITZ;
ABRAMAWITZ >from Taurage & Vainutas; any STRUMWASSER, STROMWASSER,
STRONGWATER, STONEWATER; >from Kamenets Pod., Ukr: JURIST, URIST, SAPOSNICK,
PETCHEKOVSKY, CZAP; >from Sadgura, Ukr: KARPEL, LOBL; KALTER >from Zhelibory &
Voynilov, Ukr; >from Sudilkov, Ukr: KUDISH, RUTFIELD, LERNER, KATZ; from
Rafalowka & Manevichi, Ukr: ROSENFELD, BRATT

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Because the last question in Robert's initial message may indeed have been "lost" to readers, this is a good time to remind Litvak SIG Digest subscribers that for your queries to be most effective, limit them to one or two (related) questions. Save additional and possibly unrelated questions for another message.


Re: help with ALD search results #lithuania

ROBERT WEISS
 

In a message dated 11/4/00 8:15:39 AM, "Robert Strumwasser"
<robertstrum@email.msn.com> writes:

<< Can anyone give me a sense of how likely it might be to find two,
unrelated people with the same TWO given names? For example, I'm looking for ROZ >from Taurage. I found an Avram Yankel Roiz >from Taurage in 1816.
An Avraham Yaakov Roz appears on family tree. While this is not the
individual I'm looking for (because of dates), I obviously want to follow
this up.

What I'm asking is how likely is it for these two people to be related (or
unrelated)?>>

I would say the two persons have the same name.

A Russian or Lithuanian clerk would likely write "ROIZ" (in Cyrillic) when
the name ROZ was pronounced by a Litvak.

And Avram Yankel is the familiar version of Avraham Yaakov.

Note that there are many many ROZ family members in the neighboring town of
Kelme between 1907 and 1941 (just north-east of Taurage, on the main road
from Koenigsberg to Riga). But I do not find any Avraham Yaakov in my Kelme
Directory.

Bob Weiss, currently in Bat Yam, Israel bonding with my new grandson NatanEl
Avraham ben Jonah Moshe haCohen (KATZ).

RWeissJGS@aol.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: The Litvak SIG extends Bob and his family "mazel tov" on the new "anikel"


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: help with ALD search results #lithuania

ROBERT WEISS
 

In a message dated 11/4/00 8:15:39 AM, "Robert Strumwasser"
<robertstrum@email.msn.com> writes:

<< Can anyone give me a sense of how likely it might be to find two,
unrelated people with the same TWO given names? For example, I'm looking for ROZ >from Taurage. I found an Avram Yankel Roiz >from Taurage in 1816.
An Avraham Yaakov Roz appears on family tree. While this is not the
individual I'm looking for (because of dates), I obviously want to follow
this up.

What I'm asking is how likely is it for these two people to be related (or
unrelated)?>>

I would say the two persons have the same name.

A Russian or Lithuanian clerk would likely write "ROIZ" (in Cyrillic) when
the name ROZ was pronounced by a Litvak.

And Avram Yankel is the familiar version of Avraham Yaakov.

Note that there are many many ROZ family members in the neighboring town of
Kelme between 1907 and 1941 (just north-east of Taurage, on the main road
from Koenigsberg to Riga). But I do not find any Avraham Yaakov in my Kelme
Directory.

Bob Weiss, currently in Bat Yam, Israel bonding with my new grandson NatanEl
Avraham ben Jonah Moshe haCohen (KATZ).

RWeissJGS@aol.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: The Litvak SIG extends Bob and his family "mazel tov" on the new "anikel"


Re: help with ALD search results #lithuania

Arnold Davidson <arnoldbd@...>
 

Robert, I share your frustration. I have been searching the ALD since it
came on line for information on ABRAMS or ABRAMOVITCH (in all its possible
spelling variations and in Soundex) and for given name combinations of both
Hebrew and Yiddish names of the members of this family. I am a contributor
to the translation project of the Siuliai uyezd, where their ancestral town
(Vieksniai) is located. As a result I have lists that have not yet posted
to the ALD that contain well over 2,000 names. Nevertheless, I have not
found a single reference to any name that could be considered a "hit".

I have considered several factors which may conribute to my lack of
success. Some may apply to you. A major factor is that only a fraction of
the names are available. The ALD lists and the various lists that I have
received prior to posting contain many repetitions of the same names so the
total number of unique names is considerably less than totals shown. Berl
Kagan's book shows that Jewish population of Vieksniai alone varied from
over 1100 to over 2600 people during the last half of the 19th century.
The ALD has 432 names in the Revision list and 307 in all other lists
combined, at least half of which must be repeats.

Another factor is that the names that appear on many of the lists are those
of people who had enough money to pay taxes, subscribe to relief efforts,
and otherwise make contributions and payments. To my dismay, my family was
among the many who did not get on such lists. They were probably on lists
that were destroyed in the fire that burned down half of the shtetl in 1886.

I also may be looking for my needles in the wrong haystack. Although there
are several references (personal correspondence >from 2 different
contemporaries of my ggf and his death certificate) to Vieksniai as the
ancestral town for at least 3 generations they may actually be registered
elsewhere. For example, in the town that my gggf came >from or in the town
of origin of my gggm or ggm.

We will just have to keep looking and hope that the ALD will be expanded
quickly before *my* name appears on some ancestor list.

Good luck.

Arnold Davidson
Boynton Beach, FL
arnoldbd@mindspring.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: help with ALD search results #lithuania

Arnold Davidson <arnoldbd@...>
 

Robert, I share your frustration. I have been searching the ALD since it
came on line for information on ABRAMS or ABRAMOVITCH (in all its possible
spelling variations and in Soundex) and for given name combinations of both
Hebrew and Yiddish names of the members of this family. I am a contributor
to the translation project of the Siuliai uyezd, where their ancestral town
(Vieksniai) is located. As a result I have lists that have not yet posted
to the ALD that contain well over 2,000 names. Nevertheless, I have not
found a single reference to any name that could be considered a "hit".

I have considered several factors which may conribute to my lack of
success. Some may apply to you. A major factor is that only a fraction of
the names are available. The ALD lists and the various lists that I have
received prior to posting contain many repetitions of the same names so the
total number of unique names is considerably less than totals shown. Berl
Kagan's book shows that Jewish population of Vieksniai alone varied from
over 1100 to over 2600 people during the last half of the 19th century.
The ALD has 432 names in the Revision list and 307 in all other lists
combined, at least half of which must be repeats.

Another factor is that the names that appear on many of the lists are those
of people who had enough money to pay taxes, subscribe to relief efforts,
and otherwise make contributions and payments. To my dismay, my family was
among the many who did not get on such lists. They were probably on lists
that were destroyed in the fire that burned down half of the shtetl in 1886.

I also may be looking for my needles in the wrong haystack. Although there
are several references (personal correspondence >from 2 different
contemporaries of my ggf and his death certificate) to Vieksniai as the
ancestral town for at least 3 generations they may actually be registered
elsewhere. For example, in the town that my gggf came >from or in the town
of origin of my gggm or ggm.

We will just have to keep looking and hope that the ALD will be expanded
quickly before *my* name appears on some ancestor list.

Good luck.

Arnold Davidson
Boynton Beach, FL
arnoldbd@mindspring.com


Re: Belarus SIG web site #belarus

andrea ziegelman <aziegelman@...>
 

A SUGGESTION FOR FURTHER IMPROVEMENT OF THE BELARUS WEB SITE

The Belarus site is much improved! Thank you!!!

Here's a suggestion for further improvement:
Please make a button for "Add your name to the FamilyFinder."
Since I last entered my names in the FamilyFinder I discovered the
name of one of my ancestral shtetls, Postawy. When I clicked a button
to go to the Postawy list of FamilyFinder people, I saw that I wasn't
there.

ON THE PAGE OF THAT LIST OF POSTAWY DESCENDENTS, it would be good to
have a button,"Add your name to this list."

Again, thank you for all your work.
Kind regards, Andi Alpert Ziegelman


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Belarus SIG web site #belarus

andrea ziegelman <aziegelman@...>
 

A SUGGESTION FOR FURTHER IMPROVEMENT OF THE BELARUS WEB SITE

The Belarus site is much improved! Thank you!!!

Here's a suggestion for further improvement:
Please make a button for "Add your name to the FamilyFinder."
Since I last entered my names in the FamilyFinder I discovered the
name of one of my ancestral shtetls, Postawy. When I clicked a button
to go to the Postawy list of FamilyFinder people, I saw that I wasn't
there.

ON THE PAGE OF THAT LIST OF POSTAWY DESCENDENTS, it would be good to
have a button,"Add your name to this list."

Again, thank you for all your work.
Kind regards, Andi Alpert Ziegelman


Yizkor Book Project Update #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

The following message has been edited to include Belarus related
material only:

Subject: Sept/Oct 2000 update
From: Joyce Field <jfield@indy.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:27:44 -0500
X-Message-Number: 2

Yizkor Book Project update for September and October 2000

Because of travel and the holidays, the activity reports for
September and October 2000 for the Yizkor Book Project have been
combined. There are now 245 separate entries: in this two-month
period 8 new books and 18 updates were put on the web site at
<http://www.JewishGen.org/JewishGen-erosity/YizkorTrans.html>;

New Entries:

Kurzeniec, Belarus
Sopotkin, Belarus

Updates:

Kurzeniec, Belarus


Let me remind you again of the translation projects that need your
financial support. Contributions can be made online at
<http://www.JewishGen.org/JewishGen-erosity/YizkorTrans.html>; or you
can print the form to be included with a contribution that can be
mailed to JewishGen. Please consider an additional contribution to
JewishGen, which provides administrative and infrastructure support
to these projects at no charge.

Dokshitsy, Belarus
Drogichin, Belarus
Slutsk, Belarus
Telekhany, Belarus


We now have 1041 different books entered in our datbase and there are
7,540 entries for books held by major libraries.

We are in need of a person to do data entry for the Library database
who has Access 97. If you are interested, please contact John Berman
at jberman@jewishgen.org.

Due to the extraordinary diligence of our html staff, our queue is
now manageable. So if you have been waiting to donate newly
translated material to us, no need to wait any longer. Please
contact Joyce Field at jfield@jewishgen.org.

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
jfield@jewishgen.org


Belarus SIG #Belarus Yizkor Book Project Update #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

The following message has been edited to include Belarus related
material only:

Subject: Sept/Oct 2000 update
From: Joyce Field <jfield@indy.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:27:44 -0500
X-Message-Number: 2

Yizkor Book Project update for September and October 2000

Because of travel and the holidays, the activity reports for
September and October 2000 for the Yizkor Book Project have been
combined. There are now 245 separate entries: in this two-month
period 8 new books and 18 updates were put on the web site at
<http://www.JewishGen.org/JewishGen-erosity/YizkorTrans.html>;

New Entries:

Kurzeniec, Belarus
Sopotkin, Belarus

Updates:

Kurzeniec, Belarus


Let me remind you again of the translation projects that need your
financial support. Contributions can be made online at
<http://www.JewishGen.org/JewishGen-erosity/YizkorTrans.html>; or you
can print the form to be included with a contribution that can be
mailed to JewishGen. Please consider an additional contribution to
JewishGen, which provides administrative and infrastructure support
to these projects at no charge.

Dokshitsy, Belarus
Drogichin, Belarus
Slutsk, Belarus
Telekhany, Belarus


We now have 1041 different books entered in our datbase and there are
7,540 entries for books held by major libraries.

We are in need of a person to do data entry for the Library database
who has Access 97. If you are interested, please contact John Berman
at jberman@jewishgen.org.

Due to the extraordinary diligence of our html staff, our queue is
now manageable. So if you have been waiting to donate newly
translated material to us, no need to wait any longer. Please
contact Joyce Field at jfield@jewishgen.org.

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
jfield@jewishgen.org


Re: research questions #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

In a message dated 11/3/2000 10:46:18 AM EST, Brdbrain7@aol.com writes:

Please forgive question that has been answered recently, and one that has
nothing to do with JEWISH genealogy. I couldn't answers in the archives.
A friend wanted to know the cheapest way to send money to Poland to get
records.

My friend is of Polish Catholic background. His father's birthplace is
now
in Lithuania (It is a little town between Kovno/Kaunas and
Vilnius/Vilna.).

Where does he write to get records? How does he find someone to do
research

for him in Poland or Lithuania (wherever the records are located)?

Thank you for your help-

Robin B. Seidenberg
brdbrain7@aol.com
Since the records are most likely in the Kovno/Kaunas or Vilnius/Vilna
Lithuania Archives, your friend has to send money to Lithuania, not
Poland. Perhaps some of the information in the following post on
our mailing list will be of use to your friend.

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

Subj: [jri-pl] Re: Sending Money to Poland
Date: 10/2/2000 11:46:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Algaze@aol.com
To: jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org (JRI-Poland)

I would like to thank all those who responded so generously to
my recent posting requesting information on the best (and most
economical) way to send money to Poland. Acting on the
assumption that there are others who might be interested in
the responses, I am summarizing them here:

1) I found the cheapest way to send money to Poland was to go
to the local supermarket and buy a money order. The archives
accepted it immediately. Mona Freedman Morris, Boca Raton, FL

2) I send money to Poland all of the time. What has worked best,
and is least expensive for our researcher in Poland, is to use a Bank
Money Order and then mail it. Dick Goldman, President, JGS of
Maryland

3) >from France a bank transfer or a postal order costs at least
150 FF ( 20 to 25 USD ) whatever the amount. For small amounts
I sent travellers checks in USD; it worked perfectly. Moreover the
Polish Archives sent me a check for an overpayment of a few dollars!
Nicole Berline

4) Try a US Postal International Money Order. Make sure it is the
International one. Richard Sandler

5) An alternate source was suggested by several members of the local
German Genealogy Group on Long Island. ICE reportedly charges $5
a check:

International Currency Express Inc.
427 North Camden Drive
Beverly Hills, CA 90210
888-278-6628
310-278-6410
http://www.foreignmoney.com

6) Get an international money order >from American Express.
This should cost about $10.00. If you have an American
Express credit card, I have been told that they waive the fee.
I hope this helps.

Thank you again to all those who responded with your most helpful
suggestions. With best wishes for a happy, healthy, and sweet
New Year to all.

Barbara Algaze
Los Angeles, California


JRI Poland #Poland Re: research questions #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

In a message dated 11/3/2000 10:46:18 AM EST, Brdbrain7@aol.com writes:

Please forgive question that has been answered recently, and one that has
nothing to do with JEWISH genealogy. I couldn't answers in the archives.
A friend wanted to know the cheapest way to send money to Poland to get
records.

My friend is of Polish Catholic background. His father's birthplace is
now
in Lithuania (It is a little town between Kovno/Kaunas and
Vilnius/Vilna.).

Where does he write to get records? How does he find someone to do
research

for him in Poland or Lithuania (wherever the records are located)?

Thank you for your help-

Robin B. Seidenberg
brdbrain7@aol.com
Since the records are most likely in the Kovno/Kaunas or Vilnius/Vilna
Lithuania Archives, your friend has to send money to Lithuania, not
Poland. Perhaps some of the information in the following post on
our mailing list will be of use to your friend.

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

Subj: [jri-pl] Re: Sending Money to Poland
Date: 10/2/2000 11:46:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Algaze@aol.com
To: jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org (JRI-Poland)

I would like to thank all those who responded so generously to
my recent posting requesting information on the best (and most
economical) way to send money to Poland. Acting on the
assumption that there are others who might be interested in
the responses, I am summarizing them here:

1) I found the cheapest way to send money to Poland was to go
to the local supermarket and buy a money order. The archives
accepted it immediately. Mona Freedman Morris, Boca Raton, FL

2) I send money to Poland all of the time. What has worked best,
and is least expensive for our researcher in Poland, is to use a Bank
Money Order and then mail it. Dick Goldman, President, JGS of
Maryland

3) >from France a bank transfer or a postal order costs at least
150 FF ( 20 to 25 USD ) whatever the amount. For small amounts
I sent travellers checks in USD; it worked perfectly. Moreover the
Polish Archives sent me a check for an overpayment of a few dollars!
Nicole Berline

4) Try a US Postal International Money Order. Make sure it is the
International one. Richard Sandler

5) An alternate source was suggested by several members of the local
German Genealogy Group on Long Island. ICE reportedly charges $5
a check:

International Currency Express Inc.
427 North Camden Drive
Beverly Hills, CA 90210
888-278-6628
310-278-6410
http://www.foreignmoney.com

6) Get an international money order >from American Express.
This should cost about $10.00. If you have an American
Express credit card, I have been told that they waive the fee.
I hope this helps.

Thank you again to all those who responded with your most helpful
suggestions. With best wishes for a happy, healthy, and sweet
New Year to all.

Barbara Algaze
Los Angeles, California