In response to Rlberliner@aol.com query about uploading a photo with
writing on rear.

I suggest you upload two graphics, front & rear.
In the easy upload section write your request for info, something like
this--

On front-----
"Does anyone recognize this person(s)? Also see related graphic with
inscription >from back side"

On rear----
"I'd appreciate a translation these words, found on rear of photo. See
related photo."


Then on JewishGen say something like ---

I've uploaded two photos to
JewishGen's ViewMate - http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate
File Nos. VM123 & VM456

One is photo (add description/question ) and other is writing found on
reverse. I'd appreciate a translation and ---Do you recognize the person(s)
in the photo (or whatever) ?
etc.


*** Important Note: ***
Please send all queries about ViewMate to addresses listed on ViewMate
'Help' page,
and not to JewishGen Discussion Group.

You are invited to visit us today to make use of this newest JewishGen tool
ViewMate Team
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate
Josef Herz
Bernard Kouchel


lberliner@aol.com> wrote in message news:a5.d188a71.27343e7b@aol.com...

In response to Rlberliner@aol.com query about uploading a photo with
writing on rear.

I suggest you upload two graphics, front & rear.
In the easy upload section write your request for info, something like
this--

On front-----
"Does anyone recognize this person(s)? Also see related graphic with
inscription >from back side"

On rear----
"I'd appreciate a translation these words, found on rear of photo. See
related photo."


Then on JewishGen say something like ---

I've uploaded two photos to
JewishGen's ViewMate - http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate
File Nos. VM123 & VM456

One is photo (add description/question ) and other is writing found on
reverse. I'd appreciate a translation and ---Do you recognize the person(s)
in the photo (or whatever) ?
etc.


*** Important Note: ***
Please send all queries about ViewMate to addresses listed on ViewMate
'Help' page,
and not to JewishGen Discussion Group.

You are invited to visit us today to make use of this newest JewishGen tool
ViewMate Team
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate
Josef Herz
Bernard Kouchel


lberliner@aol.com> wrote in message news:a5.d188a71.27343e7b@aol.com...

I am doing research for a novel, and need information about the status of
half-Jews in Lodz, especially during the time between Sept. 1, 1939 and the
opening of the Ghetto.

My character is a thirteen-year-old Christian girl with a Jewish mother. My
understanding is that she (a first-degree mischlinge) would have suffered
the same fate as if she were fully Jewish. This was, I believe, true in the
part of Poland, including Lodz, that was annexed during the war. However,
the treatment of half-Jews was not consistent in Nazi and Nazi-occupied
countries, and may even have been different in Warsaw, i.e., the General
Government, than in Lodz.

I have been able to find very little information about this in either
history books or memoirs, and some of the information I did find was
conflicting.

Assuming that the mischling were subject to the same treatment as the Jews,
I need to know whether this was true >from the time of the German invasion,
or whether they were defined as Jews sometime after the invasion. Did the
antisemitic regulations that were enforced against Jews in Lodz apply to
them all along, or was this an afterthought? I assume that by the time that
the Ghetto was opened, they were moved in at the same time as the Jewish
members of their families. Is this correct?

Any information that you can give me about the sequence of events in Lodz as
it applied to half-Jews such as my character will be very much appreciated.
Thank you so much for your help.
Sue Horvath

MODERATOR NOTE: In responding to this message, please limit your replies
to information you know to be accurate and, if possible, please cite
sources to help the author in her quest.

I am doing research for a novel, and need information about the status of
half-Jews in Lodz, especially during the time between Sept. 1, 1939 and the
opening of the Ghetto.

My character is a thirteen-year-old Christian girl with a Jewish mother. My
understanding is that she (a first-degree mischlinge) would have suffered
the same fate as if she were fully Jewish. This was, I believe, true in the
part of Poland, including Lodz, that was annexed during the war. However,
the treatment of half-Jews was not consistent in Nazi and Nazi-occupied
countries, and may even have been different in Warsaw, i.e., the General
Government, than in Lodz.

I have been able to find very little information about this in either
history books or memoirs, and some of the information I did find was
conflicting.

Assuming that the mischling were subject to the same treatment as the Jews,
I need to know whether this was true >from the time of the German invasion,
or whether they were defined as Jews sometime after the invasion. Did the
antisemitic regulations that were enforced against Jews in Lodz apply to
them all along, or was this an afterthought? I assume that by the time that
the Ghetto was opened, they were moved in at the same time as the Jewish
members of their families. Is this correct?

Any information that you can give me about the sequence of events in Lodz as
it applied to half-Jews such as my character will be very much appreciated.
Thank you so much for your help.
Sue Horvath

MODERATOR NOTE: In responding to this message, please limit your replies
to information you know to be accurate and, if possible, please cite
sources to help the author in her quest.

Check the Yizkor Book Project data base at
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/database.html. Copies of the
Debrecen yizkor book are located at the following libraries:

British Library, London, England, Call No: Has book
Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel, Call No: D47(439.1)
Simon Wiesenthal Center/Yeshiva University Library, Los Angeles,
CA, Call No: 85-2170
UCLA Research Library, Los Angeles, CA, Call No: DS 135 H92 D434g
University of Judaism, Los Angeles, CA, Call No: 933.501 D288m 1970
Holocaust Center of Northern California, San Francisco, CA, Call
No: Debreceni
Price Library of Judaica, University of Florida, Gainesville,
FL, Call No: Has book
Boston Public Library, Boston, MA, Call No: BPLDS135.H92 D434
Harvard University Library, Cambridge, MA, Call No: Heb 16758.275
Brandeis University Library, Waltham, MA, Call No: DS135.H92 D434
Joseph Meyerhoff Library, Baltimore, MD, Call No: 278.9 .G58m
Hebrew Union College-Jewish Inst. of Religion Lib., New York,
NY, Call No: HIW 377
Jewish Theological Seminary Library, New York, NY, Call No:
DS135 H92 D4 G6
New York Public Library, Jewish Division, New York, NY, Call No:
*PXT 76-6740
YIVO Institute for Jewish Research Library, New York, NY, Call No: 9/77966

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
jfield@jewishgen.org

Check the Yizkor Book Project data base at
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/database.html. Copies of the
Debrecen yizkor book are located at the following libraries:

British Library, London, England, Call No: Has book
Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel, Call No: D47(439.1)
Simon Wiesenthal Center/Yeshiva University Library, Los Angeles,
CA, Call No: 85-2170
UCLA Research Library, Los Angeles, CA, Call No: DS 135 H92 D434g
University of Judaism, Los Angeles, CA, Call No: 933.501 D288m 1970
Holocaust Center of Northern California, San Francisco, CA, Call
No: Debreceni
Price Library of Judaica, University of Florida, Gainesville,
FL, Call No: Has book
Boston Public Library, Boston, MA, Call No: BPLDS135.H92 D434
Harvard University Library, Cambridge, MA, Call No: Heb 16758.275
Brandeis University Library, Waltham, MA, Call No: DS135.H92 D434
Joseph Meyerhoff Library, Baltimore, MD, Call No: 278.9 .G58m
Hebrew Union College-Jewish Inst. of Religion Lib., New York,
NY, Call No: HIW 377
Jewish Theological Seminary Library, New York, NY, Call No:
DS135 H92 D4 G6
New York Public Library, Jewish Division, New York, NY, Call No:
*PXT 76-6740
YIVO Institute for Jewish Research Library, New York, NY, Call No: 9/77966

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
jfield@jewishgen.org

And even in Hessen, Germany, where Yiddish wasn't spoken, I have recently come across two
examples of. "Beyla", so this is a really widespread name.

Margaret Thornhill

And even in Hessen, Germany, where Yiddish wasn't spoken, I have recently come across two
examples of. "Beyla", so this is a really widespread name.

Margaret Thornhill

The situation is made obvious when a man is called up in shul and they call
up Avraham ben Avraham.
I cannot say it is a common occurrence thank God but it does happen
frequently enough that I have seen several men with their father's name.

----------

The situation is made obvious when a man is called up in shul and they call
up Avraham ben Avraham.
I cannot say it is a common occurrence thank God but it does happen
frequently enough that I have seen several men with their father's name.

----------

During this past month, the Lodz USC (Office of Civil Registration) moved to
a new location and has now reopened.

New address:

Urzad Stanu Cywilnego
Lodz-Centrum
al. Pilsudskiego 100
92-326 Lodz
Poland

Regards,
Shirley Rotbein Flaum
Houston, Texas

During this past month, the Lodz USC (Office of Civil Registration) moved to
a new location and has now reopened.

New address:

Urzad Stanu Cywilnego
Lodz-Centrum
al. Pilsudskiego 100
92-326 Lodz
Poland

Regards,
Shirley Rotbein Flaum
Houston, Texas

Greetings, fellow Jewishgenners,

Here's a name game for which I solicit a solution...

My great great grandfather, Yehoshua ZELIG, lived during the first half of
the 19th Century in the Lida District of the former Vilna gubernija (Russian
Empire), now part of Belarus. His son, my great grandfather, was named
Hirsch Wolf GROSSMAN. The latter married and moved to Iasi, Romania in the
1860s. Hirsch Wolf's eldest son, born in Iasi, Romania, in 1868, was named
Chaim Zelig Grossman.

What was my great grandfather's actual family name? Should I also be
looking for vital records and census documents that say ZELIG rather than
GROSSMAN?

Thanks,

Glenn A. Gorelick
Sierra Madre, CA
JGSLA

Greetings, fellow Jewishgenners,

Here's a name game for which I solicit a solution...

My great great grandfather, Yehoshua ZELIG, lived during the first half of
the 19th Century in the Lida District of the former Vilna gubernija (Russian
Empire), now part of Belarus. His son, my great grandfather, was named
Hirsch Wolf GROSSMAN. The latter married and moved to Iasi, Romania in the
1860s. Hirsch Wolf's eldest son, born in Iasi, Romania, in 1868, was named
Chaim Zelig Grossman.

What was my great grandfather's actual family name? Should I also be
looking for vital records and census documents that say ZELIG rather than
GROSSMAN?

Thanks,

Glenn A. Gorelick
Sierra Madre, CA
JGSLA

Dear Carol We all salute you and wish you a very Happy Birthday and thank
you for helping us sort out problems.
Arlene Beare
Moderator


Official Carol W. Skydell Day on JewishGen
in honor of her 75th birthday
November 2, 2000
There are special moments and special people that an organization can
recognize, and today is one of those very special occasions. Can you imagine
the world of JewishGen without Carol Skydell?
This feisty red-head first presented herself to JewishGen at the Washington
Summer Seminar in 1995. She had been known to many of us through her
informative posts on JewishGen during the previous six months.
It was here that Carol made her first big mistake in her 5 year "career"
with JewishGen. A mistake that now carries forward to anyone who complains.
<grin>
They say you can't teach an old dog a new trick... well those prophets were
wrong! We have proven over many years that no matter what your age, and no
matter what your disability and no matter how technically challenged you
are... JewishGen can find a way to get you to volunteer... and then some...
Carol is our proof! <grin>
>from the Support Desk to Moderator, >from Moderator to Board Member and
Public Relations, >from Public Relations to VP of Operations... Carol has
surely been on a fast track.. all the while demonstrating to us how fast she
can still type.
Mother of three sons, two daughter-in-laws, one grandson and four or so
grand dogs, Carol continues to monitor all her duties while making cross
country treks between her east and west coast homes twice a year. All of her
files are zipped, her paperwork stuffed in baskets in her car... and her car
put on a transport... it is JewishGen flexibility and mobility at the
utmost.
JewishGen has gained immeasurably >from Carol's exuberance, her willingness
to tackle any job ... no matter what time of the day or night it presents
itself, her undying spirit for what JewishGen stands for, and her
unsurpassing loyalty and dedication to the missions and goals of this
organization.
Please join with us today to honor Carol! There is no better way to say
thank you on this special day than to give back to JewishGen by making a
gift in her honor to JewishGen through our Honors/Thanks JewishGen-erosity
site.
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/honors.html
Please join us in celebrating this very special occassion with Carol. This
will be the most special gift of all. What a better way to honor an
individual who has given generously of her time through dedicated, selfless
work for the greater good of Jewish genealogy?
Your contribution to JewishGen will continue to fund our operational budget
which supports all of JewishGen's activities, projects and SIGs, each and
every month.
Happy Birthday, Carol!
Susan

Dear Carol We all salute you and wish you a very Happy Birthday and thank
you for helping us sort out problems.
Arlene Beare
Moderator


Official Carol W. Skydell Day on JewishGen
in honor of her 75th birthday
November 2, 2000
There are special moments and special people that an organization can
recognize, and today is one of those very special occasions. Can you imagine
the world of JewishGen without Carol Skydell?
This feisty red-head first presented herself to JewishGen at the Washington
Summer Seminar in 1995. She had been known to many of us through her
informative posts on JewishGen during the previous six months.
It was here that Carol made her first big mistake in her 5 year "career"
with JewishGen. A mistake that now carries forward to anyone who complains.
<grin>
They say you can't teach an old dog a new trick... well those prophets were
wrong! We have proven over many years that no matter what your age, and no
matter what your disability and no matter how technically challenged you
are... JewishGen can find a way to get you to volunteer... and then some...
Carol is our proof! <grin>
>from the Support Desk to Moderator, >from Moderator to Board Member and
Public Relations, >from Public Relations to VP of Operations... Carol has
surely been on a fast track.. all the while demonstrating to us how fast she
can still type.
Mother of three sons, two daughter-in-laws, one grandson and four or so
grand dogs, Carol continues to monitor all her duties while making cross
country treks between her east and west coast homes twice a year. All of her
files are zipped, her paperwork stuffed in baskets in her car... and her car
put on a transport... it is JewishGen flexibility and mobility at the
utmost.
JewishGen has gained immeasurably >from Carol's exuberance, her willingness
to tackle any job ... no matter what time of the day or night it presents
itself, her undying spirit for what JewishGen stands for, and her
unsurpassing loyalty and dedication to the missions and goals of this
organization.
Please join with us today to honor Carol! There is no better way to say
thank you on this special day than to give back to JewishGen by making a
gift in her honor to JewishGen through our Honors/Thanks JewishGen-erosity
site.
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/honors.html
Please join us in celebrating this very special occassion with Carol. This
will be the most special gift of all. What a better way to honor an
individual who has given generously of her time through dedicated, selfless
work for the greater good of Jewish genealogy?
Your contribution to JewishGen will continue to fund our operational budget
which supports all of JewishGen's activities, projects and SIGs, each and
every month.
Happy Birthday, Carol!
Susan

Actually, I would like to know some of this information too. How can I find
out the responses?

Sincerely,
Rodger Cooper

Moderator Note: Could you please let us know what
information you are seeking. The message you have
sent us gives no clue.Please resubmit.

London2001
21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
Intercontinental Hotel, London
8-13 July 2001

Conference booking opens today!

See www.jewishgen.org/london2001.htm for registration and secure
payment on-line, or to download a registration form.

Conference rate rooms at Intercontinental Hotel (first-come-first-served
basis), details on www.jewishgen.org/london2001.htm

Shtetlshleppers tours (of Jewish genealogical interest) to Eastern and
other parts of Europe.
Discounted Airfares to London available .

Archivists in attendance.
Speakers galore.
Genealogical Resources in abundance
Walks excursions and visits to areas of exceptional interest.
Check the WEB site frequently for full details
www.jewishgen.org/london2001.htm

Book early-avoid dissapointment.

Remember, Wimbledon Men's finals on the day the conference starts.
When you are bored with conferencing there are parks, museums, art
galleries, shopping, theatre and the Thames.

George Anticoni and Dr Saul Issroff
(Joint Chairmen-LONDON2001)
inquiries: info.london2001@talk21.com

--
Dr Saul Issroff
London2001 - 21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
8-13 July 2001 www.jewishgen.org/london2001.htm
info.london2001@talk21.com

Actually, I would like to know some of this information too. How can I find
out the responses?

Sincerely,
Rodger Cooper

Moderator Note: Could you please let us know what
information you are seeking. The message you have
sent us gives no clue.Please resubmit.

London2001
21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
Intercontinental Hotel, London
8-13 July 2001

Conference booking opens today!

See www.jewishgen.org/london2001.htm for registration and secure
payment on-line, or to download a registration form.

Conference rate rooms at Intercontinental Hotel (first-come-first-served
basis), details on www.jewishgen.org/london2001.htm

Shtetlshleppers tours (of Jewish genealogical interest) to Eastern and
other parts of Europe.
Discounted Airfares to London available .

Archivists in attendance.
Speakers galore.
Genealogical Resources in abundance
Walks excursions and visits to areas of exceptional interest.
Check the WEB site frequently for full details
www.jewishgen.org/london2001.htm

Book early-avoid dissapointment.

Remember, Wimbledon Men's finals on the day the conference starts.
When you are bored with conferencing there are parks, museums, art
galleries, shopping, theatre and the Thames.

George Anticoni and Dr Saul Issroff
(Joint Chairmen-LONDON2001)
inquiries: info.london2001@talk21.com

--
Dr Saul Issroff
London2001 - 21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
8-13 July 2001 www.jewishgen.org/london2001.htm
info.london2001@talk21.com