Dear Mickey,
I would suggest that the Getomir is a scribal error for Zhitomir.
Shalom Bronstein, Jerusalem

Researching - SHULMAN/SHILLMAN - PANEVEZYS; BLOCH - KREKANAVA (LITHUANIA);
the DIMMERMAN, BECK & GELMAN families >from OSTROG & vicinity (VOLHYN);
BRONSTEIN, BROWNSTEIN, RUNSTEIN, ROCHMANN - KISHENEV (MOLDAVA); GOLDSTEIN -
IASI (ROMANIA) - those who came to America all settled in PHILADELPHIA

Original Message
From: Miccind@aol.com [mailto:Miccind@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 5:02 PM
To: Ukraine SIG
Subject: [ukraine] Location of shtetl

Hi listers-
I have just acquired copies of my maternal grandfather, Morris HALPERIN's,
naturalization papers.
Both the Declaration of Intention, dated 1918, and the Petition for
Naturalization, dated 1920, state that he was born in Getomer, Russia.
In addition the 1910 and 1920 Census records say he was born in Kiev,
Russia.
Therefore I assume Getomer was in the Kiev-Gubernia, somewhere.
Seeking it in Jewishgen Shtetl Seeker provided me with no results.
Can anyone familiar with this area help me locate this town?
Any help will be appreciated.

Mickey Freedman
Tucson, AZ
miccind@aol.com

Dear Mickey,
I would suggest that the Getomir is a scribal error for Zhitomir.
Shalom Bronstein, Jerusalem

Researching - SHULMAN/SHILLMAN - PANEVEZYS; BLOCH - KREKANAVA (LITHUANIA);
the DIMMERMAN, BECK & GELMAN families >from OSTROG & vicinity (VOLHYN);
BRONSTEIN, BROWNSTEIN, RUNSTEIN, ROCHMANN - KISHENEV (MOLDAVA); GOLDSTEIN -
IASI (ROMANIA) - those who came to America all settled in PHILADELPHIA

Original Message
From: Miccind@aol.com [mailto:Miccind@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 5:02 PM
To: Ukraine SIG
Subject: [ukraine] Location of shtetl

Hi listers-
I have just acquired copies of my maternal grandfather, Morris HALPERIN's,
naturalization papers.
Both the Declaration of Intention, dated 1918, and the Petition for
Naturalization, dated 1920, state that he was born in Getomer, Russia.
In addition the 1910 and 1920 Census records say he was born in Kiev,
Russia.
Therefore I assume Getomer was in the Kiev-Gubernia, somewhere.
Seeking it in Jewishgen Shtetl Seeker provided me with no results.
Can anyone familiar with this area help me locate this town?
Any help will be appreciated.

Mickey Freedman
Tucson, AZ
miccind@aol.com

I believe that Berezhany is in the geographical area covered by
Gesher Galicia and all discussion about that town should be sent to
the Gesher Galicia listserv.

Joyce Field
jfield@indy.net

I believe that Berezhany is in the geographical area covered by
Gesher Galicia and all discussion about that town should be sent to
the Gesher Galicia listserv.

Joyce Field
jfield@indy.net

Just came across the name "Gisha" as a Hebrew name. Although I'm skeptical
about these equivalences, her English name was Hilda. I don't know her
country of origin, but I have the additional clue that her son's middle
name is Gersh rather than Hersh, but I haven't heard of Hisha as a name
either. Anyone out there with a clue?

Don't know how much of a 'clue' this is, but my ggf's wife (2nd marriage)
was named Gissa (passenger manifest refers to her as Gisia), and her
Anglicized name was Gussie, though family continued to call her Gissa.
She was >from Ukraine, born in the 1880's. Hope it helps somewhat.


Carol Kunkis Cohn
Newport Beach, CA

Searching:
KOSSOI/KOSSOY/KOSOFF - Vetka, Gomel, Chechersk, Zagor'ye, Mogilev, Belarus;
KUNKIS - Glubokoye, Belarus
SCHRIER - Yarmolinits, Kaminets-Podolsk, Ukraine

I am looking for information on the "University Avenue Synagogue"
in Toronto, Ontario (Canada). Does it still exist? Perhaps
under a new name? (It was in existence in 1908.)

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland--Czestochowa, Plawno, Radomsko, Przyrow, Mstow, Zgierz
Ukraine--Proskurov, Zaslav, Krasilov, Medvedovka, Mikolayev, Mogilev
Turkey--Istanbul and Aleppo & Rhodes
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html

Just came across the name "Gisha" as a Hebrew name. Although I'm skeptical
about these equivalences, her English name was Hilda. I don't know her
country of origin, but I have the additional clue that her son's middle
name is Gersh rather than Hersh, but I haven't heard of Hisha as a name
either. Anyone out there with a clue?

Don't know how much of a 'clue' this is, but my ggf's wife (2nd marriage)
was named Gissa (passenger manifest refers to her as Gisia), and her
Anglicized name was Gussie, though family continued to call her Gissa.
She was >from Ukraine, born in the 1880's. Hope it helps somewhat.


Carol Kunkis Cohn
Newport Beach, CA

Searching:
KOSSOI/KOSSOY/KOSOFF - Vetka, Gomel, Chechersk, Zagor'ye, Mogilev, Belarus;
KUNKIS - Glubokoye, Belarus
SCHRIER - Yarmolinits, Kaminets-Podolsk, Ukraine

I am looking for information on the "University Avenue Synagogue"
in Toronto, Ontario (Canada). Does it still exist? Perhaps
under a new name? (It was in existence in 1908.)

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland--Czestochowa, Plawno, Radomsko, Przyrow, Mstow, Zgierz
Ukraine--Proskurov, Zaslav, Krasilov, Medvedovka, Mikolayev, Mogilev
Turkey--Istanbul and Aleppo & Rhodes
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html

Try ZITOMIR where the Z sounds like ZH or a form of G as in George.

Abe Nutkis

Try ZITOMIR where the Z sounds like ZH or a form of G as in George.

Abe Nutkis

London2001
21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
Intercontinental Hotel, London
8-13 July 2001

Conference booking opens today!

See http://www.jewishgen.org/london2001/ for registration and secure
payment on-line, or to download a registration form.

Conference rate rooms at Intercontinental Hotel (first-come-first-served
basis), details on http://www.jewishgen.org/london2001/

Shtetlshleppers tours (of Jewish genealogical interest) to Eastern and
other parts of Europe. Discounted Airfares to London available.

Archivists in attendance.
Speakers galore.
Genealogical Resources in abundance
Walks excursions and visits to areas of exceptional interest.
Check the web site frequently for full details
http://www.jewishgen.org/london2001/

Book early-avoid dissapointment.

Remember, Wimbledon Men's finals on the day the conference starts.
When you are bored with conferencing there are parks, museums, art
galleries, shopping, theatre and the Thames.

George Anticoni and Dr Saul Issroff
(Joint Chairmen-LONDON2001)
inquiries: info.london2001@talk21.com

--
Dr Saul Issroff
London2001 - 21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
8-13 July 2001 http://www.jewishgen.org/london2001/
info.london2001@talk21.com

London2001
21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
Intercontinental Hotel, London
8-13 July 2001

Conference booking opens today!

See http://www.jewishgen.org/london2001/ for registration and secure
payment on-line, or to download a registration form.

Conference rate rooms at Intercontinental Hotel (first-come-first-served
basis), details on http://www.jewishgen.org/london2001/

Shtetlshleppers tours (of Jewish genealogical interest) to Eastern and
other parts of Europe. Discounted Airfares to London available.

Archivists in attendance.
Speakers galore.
Genealogical Resources in abundance
Walks excursions and visits to areas of exceptional interest.
Check the web site frequently for full details
http://www.jewishgen.org/london2001/

Book early-avoid dissapointment.

Remember, Wimbledon Men's finals on the day the conference starts.
When you are bored with conferencing there are parks, museums, art
galleries, shopping, theatre and the Thames.

George Anticoni and Dr Saul Issroff
(Joint Chairmen-LONDON2001)
inquiries: info.london2001@talk21.com

--
Dr Saul Issroff
London2001 - 21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
8-13 July 2001 http://www.jewishgen.org/london2001/
info.london2001@talk21.com

September and October 2000 update

Because of travel and the holidays, the activity reports for
September and October 2000 for the Yizkor Book Project have been
combined. There are now 245 separate entries: in this two-month
period 8 new books and 18 updates were put on the web site at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/translations.html>;

New Entries:

Berlin,Germany: Jews who died in Berlin 1943-45
Borken, Germany
Kurzeniec, Belarus
Ozernyany, Ukraine
Priluki, Ukraine
Radauti, Romania: "Mayne kinder-yorn in shtot fun hurbn"
Sopotkin, Belarus
Warta, Poland

Updates:

Bolekhov, Ukraine
Buchach, Ukraine
Bukowina Region: Geschichte der Juden in Der Bukowina
Drogiczhn, Belarus
Drohobycz, Ukraine
Juerchen, Germany
Krynki, Poland
Kurzeniec, Belarus
Novyy Yarchev, Ukraine
Przemsyl, Poland
Radzymin, Poland
Rokiskis, Lithuania
Rozhniatov, Ukraine
Sochaczew, Poland
Stawiski, Poland
Zabludow, Poland

Let me remind you again of the translation projects that need your
financial support. Contributions can be made online at
<http://www.JewishGen.org/JewishGen-erosity/YizkorTrans.html>; or you
can print the form to be included with a contribution that can be
mailed to JewishGen. Please consider an additional contribution to
JewishGen, which provides administrative and infrastructure support

to these projects at no charge.

Bolekhov, Ukraine
Buchach, Ukraine
Chelm, Poland
Czyzew, Poland
Dokshitsy, Belarus
Drogichin, Belarus
Gargzdai, Lithuania
Goniadz, Poland
Gorodenka, Ukraine
Gorodok, Ukraine
Kremenets, Ukraine
Lancut, Poland
Moravia
Przemysl, Poland
Pulawy, Poland
Rozhnyatov, Ukraine
Rzeszow, Poland
Slutsk, Belarus
Sochaczew, Poland
Stawiski, Poland
Telekhany, Belarus
Wolbrom, Poland
Yedintsy, Moldova

We now have 1041 different books entered in our datbase and there are
7,540 entries for books held by major libraries.

We are in need of a person to do data entry for the Library database
who has Access 97. If you are interested, please contact John Berman
at jberman@jewishgen.org.

Due to the extraordinary diligence of our html staff, our queue is
now manageable. So if you have been waiting to donate newly
translated material to us, no need to wait any longer. Please
contact Joyce Field at jfield@jewishgen.org.

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
jfield@jewishgen.org

01 November 2000
Announcing the newest JewishGen tool... ViewMate

Advance your research with ViewMate!

Do you have a need for analysis or translations of book titles, letters
or gravestone photos? Do you have questions about old family photos,
maps or book pages? ViewMate is JewishGen's newest tool, designed to
supplement the written query, and help you to solve graphic riddles.
Here is an example of how it works. Follow along now with Jack, our
demonstrator.


Jack finds an unidentified family photo with an inscription on the back,
written in what appears to be Hebrew script.

He scans it on his home PC system, creating a graphic file.

Then he goes to the ViewMate (VM) website. Using the easy upload feature,
he uploads his graphic file to VM. Jack soon receives an e-mail
confirmation with a file number.

He then posts a notice to the JewishGen Discussion Group (or SIG of his
choice) stating that he has uploaded a photo to VM. He requests someone
knowledgeable in Hebrew to visit the VM website, view his graphic
(File No. X) and translate it for him.

An eager reader will be quick to provide feedback. Eager reader responds
with translation. Riddle solved. Jack adds new info to his tree. Its
as easy as 1-2-3.


You are invited to visit us today to make use of this newest JewishGen
tool. The site has FAQ and full instructions.

ViewMate website: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate
Original concept: Bernard I. Kouchel
Programmer: Josef A. Herz
Webmaster: Josef A. Herz

-----
bkouchel@jewishgen.org
Bernard I. Kouchel

September and October 2000 update

Because of travel and the holidays, the activity reports for
September and October 2000 for the Yizkor Book Project have been
combined. There are now 245 separate entries: in this two-month
period 8 new books and 18 updates were put on the web site at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/translations.html>;

New Entries:

Berlin,Germany: Jews who died in Berlin 1943-45
Borken, Germany
Kurzeniec, Belarus
Ozernyany, Ukraine
Priluki, Ukraine
Radauti, Romania: "Mayne kinder-yorn in shtot fun hurbn"
Sopotkin, Belarus
Warta, Poland

Updates:

Bolekhov, Ukraine
Buchach, Ukraine
Bukowina Region: Geschichte der Juden in Der Bukowina
Drogiczhn, Belarus
Drohobycz, Ukraine
Juerchen, Germany
Krynki, Poland
Kurzeniec, Belarus
Novyy Yarchev, Ukraine
Przemsyl, Poland
Radzymin, Poland
Rokiskis, Lithuania
Rozhniatov, Ukraine
Sochaczew, Poland
Stawiski, Poland
Zabludow, Poland

Let me remind you again of the translation projects that need your
financial support. Contributions can be made online at
<http://www.JewishGen.org/JewishGen-erosity/YizkorTrans.html>; or you
can print the form to be included with a contribution that can be
mailed to JewishGen. Please consider an additional contribution to
JewishGen, which provides administrative and infrastructure support

to these projects at no charge.

Bolekhov, Ukraine
Buchach, Ukraine
Chelm, Poland
Czyzew, Poland
Dokshitsy, Belarus
Drogichin, Belarus
Gargzdai, Lithuania
Goniadz, Poland
Gorodenka, Ukraine
Gorodok, Ukraine
Kremenets, Ukraine
Lancut, Poland
Moravia
Przemysl, Poland
Pulawy, Poland
Rozhnyatov, Ukraine
Rzeszow, Poland
Slutsk, Belarus
Sochaczew, Poland
Stawiski, Poland
Telekhany, Belarus
Wolbrom, Poland
Yedintsy, Moldova

We now have 1041 different books entered in our datbase and there are
7,540 entries for books held by major libraries.

We are in need of a person to do data entry for the Library database
who has Access 97. If you are interested, please contact John Berman
at jberman@jewishgen.org.

Due to the extraordinary diligence of our html staff, our queue is
now manageable. So if you have been waiting to donate newly
translated material to us, no need to wait any longer. Please
contact Joyce Field at jfield@jewishgen.org.

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
jfield@jewishgen.org

01 November 2000
Announcing the newest JewishGen tool... ViewMate

Advance your research with ViewMate!

Do you have a need for analysis or translations of book titles, letters
or gravestone photos? Do you have questions about old family photos,
maps or book pages? ViewMate is JewishGen's newest tool, designed to
supplement the written query, and help you to solve graphic riddles.
Here is an example of how it works. Follow along now with Jack, our
demonstrator.


Jack finds an unidentified family photo with an inscription on the back,
written in what appears to be Hebrew script.

He scans it on his home PC system, creating a graphic file.

Then he goes to the ViewMate (VM) website. Using the easy upload feature,
he uploads his graphic file to VM. Jack soon receives an e-mail
confirmation with a file number.

He then posts a notice to the JewishGen Discussion Group (or SIG of his
choice) stating that he has uploaded a photo to VM. He requests someone
knowledgeable in Hebrew to visit the VM website, view his graphic
(File No. X) and translate it for him.

An eager reader will be quick to provide feedback. Eager reader responds
with translation. Riddle solved. Jack adds new info to his tree. Its
as easy as 1-2-3.


You are invited to visit us today to make use of this newest JewishGen
tool. The site has FAQ and full instructions.

ViewMate website: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate
Original concept: Bernard I. Kouchel
Programmer: Josef A. Herz
Webmaster: Josef A. Herz

-----
bkouchel@jewishgen.org
Bernard I. Kouchel

Dear Marian,
Your next step, since you've received the Certificate of Arrival, is to look at the
passenger list it refers to. The Certificate of Arrival was "created" after the
Declaration of Intention was filed. The applicant listed his travel information on
the Declaration; then the INS actually checked the original passenger list,
confirmed the information, and issued the Certificate of Arrival. So they've
already done most of your work for you!
Many people do not receive a Certificate of Arrival with their papers, so you're
very lucky, indeed!

You may have to reeview many pages for that ship, but persevere. Yes, the spelling
of Ayvin may be a bit different, but if you keep a watch for the the family as a
group, the ages of those traveling, their race, and their country of origin, you
should be able to find them. The race of our Jewish ancestors was usually listed as
"Hebrew", which makes scanning down a list of names much easier - you can skip
Russian, Polish, German, etc.
(Side note - you can probably skip the pages for First and Second Class - most of
our kin travelled by steerage <g>.)

There's a possibility that your entire family didn't travel together - many times,
the father or grown son immigrated first, to get a job, to earn the money for the
rest of the family to follow.

Don't forget you're actually looking for their "Hebrew" names on the manifest - keep
an open mind!

Good luck - enjoy your recent success!

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia

Dear Marian,
Your next step, since you've received the Certificate of Arrival, is to look at the
passenger list it refers to. The Certificate of Arrival was "created" after the
Declaration of Intention was filed. The applicant listed his travel information on
the Declaration; then the INS actually checked the original passenger list,
confirmed the information, and issued the Certificate of Arrival. So they've
already done most of your work for you!
Many people do not receive a Certificate of Arrival with their papers, so you're
very lucky, indeed!

You may have to reeview many pages for that ship, but persevere. Yes, the spelling
of Ayvin may be a bit different, but if you keep a watch for the the family as a
group, the ages of those traveling, their race, and their country of origin, you
should be able to find them. The race of our Jewish ancestors was usually listed as
"Hebrew", which makes scanning down a list of names much easier - you can skip
Russian, Polish, German, etc.
(Side note - you can probably skip the pages for First and Second Class - most of
our kin travelled by steerage <g>.)

There's a possibility that your entire family didn't travel together - many times,
the father or grown son immigrated first, to get a job, to earn the money for the
rest of the family to follow.

Don't forget you're actually looking for their "Hebrew" names on the manifest - keep
an open mind!

Good luck - enjoy your recent success!

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia

Thanks,
I was aware of the name change for Yelisabetgrad to Kirovohrad. I think
Kirov was a hero of the Russian Revolution. I would also like to add
another name to list of researching : ROLOF ,( Kulm , Ukraine). Not sure
where that is. Like the shtetl of Sloboda it has many locations (?),
throughout the region. Also looking for info about a town & lake called
Stepivka which I believe is due south of Kirovohrad. This might be where
the BRONSTEINS & LAMBS actually lived & transacted business. Kirovohrad is where they were registered.

Dennis Brown

Thanks,
I was aware of the name change for Yelisabetgrad to Kirovohrad. I think
Kirov was a hero of the Russian Revolution. I would also like to add
another name to list of researching : ROLOF ,( Kulm , Ukraine). Not sure
where that is. Like the shtetl of Sloboda it has many locations (?),
throughout the region. Also looking for info about a town & lake called
Stepivka which I believe is due south of Kirovohrad. This might be where
the BRONSTEINS & LAMBS actually lived & transacted business. Kirovohrad is where they were registered.

Dennis Brown