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ROTKIN,KOROTKIN,KAROTKIN #general

Leslie Malkin <lesmalk@...>
 

I am researching and have a family tree of KOROTKIN and KAROTKIN
families. I am interested in the fact that those identified of these
families are all Levis. In other words, members of the tribe of Levi,
or Levites! The ROTKIN researcher I know is also a Levi!
I am interested to hear >from any and all persons of these families or
reseachers of same to determine if there are any such who are *not*
Levites. I am beginning to believe that all the KOROTKINSs and KAROTKINS
and ROTKINS too are related, becaue of the Levi connection.

Or we might postulate that in some sections of the Russian empire, all
the Levites were short, because the tribe of Levi, Jacob's son, were
short, (a fact not exposed in the Bible) and thus adopted the Korotkin
name (a word meaning *Short People* in Russian),or its variant, because
they were all short, but not related in our usual sense of the word.

I appreciate your comments, but really I am hoping some members of the
clans reply, not just the scholars.
Thanks as always.
Les Malkin in Roseville, CA
lesmalk@ix.netcom.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ROTKIN,KOROTKIN,KAROTKIN #general

Leslie Malkin <lesmalk@...>
 

I am researching and have a family tree of KOROTKIN and KAROTKIN
families. I am interested in the fact that those identified of these
families are all Levis. In other words, members of the tribe of Levi,
or Levites! The ROTKIN researcher I know is also a Levi!
I am interested to hear >from any and all persons of these families or
reseachers of same to determine if there are any such who are *not*
Levites. I am beginning to believe that all the KOROTKINSs and KAROTKINS
and ROTKINS too are related, becaue of the Levi connection.

Or we might postulate that in some sections of the Russian empire, all
the Levites were short, because the tribe of Levi, Jacob's son, were
short, (a fact not exposed in the Bible) and thus adopted the Korotkin
name (a word meaning *Short People* in Russian),or its variant, because
they were all short, but not related in our usual sense of the word.

I appreciate your comments, but really I am hoping some members of the
clans reply, not just the scholars.
Thanks as always.
Les Malkin in Roseville, CA
lesmalk@ix.netcom.com


List of Registered Voters for 263 Eastern Parkway, Brooklyn (Part I - #general

Al Wirtzbaum <nycityal@...>
 

Notes and Comments about the Voter Registration

On the succeeding 2 posts, I have entered the list of registered voters
for 263 Eastern Parkway for the years 1948 and 1952, respectively. They
were taken >from the microfilm I viewed at the New York Public Library,
and I did not change the order in which they were listed. The only
editing I did to the list is to capitalize each surname for posting to
the group. Below are instances where there were spelling differences in
the records for the years posted. As usual, make sure you check all
spelling variations you can think of -- then ask other people for more
variations.

ADAMS, Helen B. 1948
ADAM, Helen B. 1952

BERKOWITZ, Therese 1948
BERKOWITZ, Theresa 1952

BOXER, Jeanette K. 1948
BOXER, Jeanette 1952

DOONEIEF, Fanny 1948
DOONELF, Fanny 1952

DOONEIEF, George M. 1948
DOONEILF, George 1952

DREIITZ, Charlotte 1948
DREIWITZ, Charlotte 1952

FEINBERG, Joan G. 1952
FEINBERG, Sally 1952
FEIRBERG, Isadore 1952 -- could this also be FEINBERG?

GERLAS, Marvin 1948
GERLA, Marvin 1952

GREENBERG, Isador 1948
GREENBERG, Isidore 1952

MANEGON, Birdie 1948
MANEZON, Birdie 1952
MANEGON, David 1948
MANEZON, Julia 1952

OSDER, Mini 1948
OSDER, Minnie 1952

ROSENWASSER, Henry 1948
ROSENWASSER, Henny 1952

STREEP, Anita 1948
STEEP, Anita 1952

STEUER, Gustav 1948
STEUER, Gustave 1952

WIRTZBAUM, Jacob 1948
WERTZBAUM, Jacob 1952 -- even my uncle's name got misspelled!

The 1948 listing for the 2 pages I copied also showed the following
Eastern Parkway addresses for the 19th E.D.: 255, 277, 285, 291, 293,
307, 311, 315, 321, and 327. Also, the following numbers for Lincoln
Place are shown: 502, 510, and 520. For the 20th E.D., the following
Franklin Avenue numbers are shown: 840, 842, 846, and 848.

The 1952 listing for the 2 pages I copied also showed the following
Eastern Parkway addresses for the 21st E.D.: 225, 255, 277, 285, 291,
293, and 307.

Let me know if you would like me to check names at the above addresses.

Al Wirtzbaum

MODERATOR NOTE: In accordance with the rules of the JewishGen Discussion
Group, long lists of names are not posted. Such lists could be considered
as an Infofile or a Database. To explore either of these possibilities,
please write to the JewishGen Support Desk at support@jewishgen.org.

Parts II and III will not be posted, but those interested should contact
Al Wirtzbaum directly at <nycityal@erols.com>.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen List of Registered Voters for 263 Eastern Parkway, Brooklyn (Part I - #general

Al Wirtzbaum <nycityal@...>
 

Notes and Comments about the Voter Registration

On the succeeding 2 posts, I have entered the list of registered voters
for 263 Eastern Parkway for the years 1948 and 1952, respectively. They
were taken >from the microfilm I viewed at the New York Public Library,
and I did not change the order in which they were listed. The only
editing I did to the list is to capitalize each surname for posting to
the group. Below are instances where there were spelling differences in
the records for the years posted. As usual, make sure you check all
spelling variations you can think of -- then ask other people for more
variations.

ADAMS, Helen B. 1948
ADAM, Helen B. 1952

BERKOWITZ, Therese 1948
BERKOWITZ, Theresa 1952

BOXER, Jeanette K. 1948
BOXER, Jeanette 1952

DOONEIEF, Fanny 1948
DOONELF, Fanny 1952

DOONEIEF, George M. 1948
DOONEILF, George 1952

DREIITZ, Charlotte 1948
DREIWITZ, Charlotte 1952

FEINBERG, Joan G. 1952
FEINBERG, Sally 1952
FEIRBERG, Isadore 1952 -- could this also be FEINBERG?

GERLAS, Marvin 1948
GERLA, Marvin 1952

GREENBERG, Isador 1948
GREENBERG, Isidore 1952

MANEGON, Birdie 1948
MANEZON, Birdie 1952
MANEGON, David 1948
MANEZON, Julia 1952

OSDER, Mini 1948
OSDER, Minnie 1952

ROSENWASSER, Henry 1948
ROSENWASSER, Henny 1952

STREEP, Anita 1948
STEEP, Anita 1952

STEUER, Gustav 1948
STEUER, Gustave 1952

WIRTZBAUM, Jacob 1948
WERTZBAUM, Jacob 1952 -- even my uncle's name got misspelled!

The 1948 listing for the 2 pages I copied also showed the following
Eastern Parkway addresses for the 19th E.D.: 255, 277, 285, 291, 293,
307, 311, 315, 321, and 327. Also, the following numbers for Lincoln
Place are shown: 502, 510, and 520. For the 20th E.D., the following
Franklin Avenue numbers are shown: 840, 842, 846, and 848.

The 1952 listing for the 2 pages I copied also showed the following
Eastern Parkway addresses for the 21st E.D.: 225, 255, 277, 285, 291,
293, and 307.

Let me know if you would like me to check names at the above addresses.

Al Wirtzbaum

MODERATOR NOTE: In accordance with the rules of the JewishGen Discussion
Group, long lists of names are not posted. Such lists could be considered
as an Infofile or a Database. To explore either of these possibilities,
please write to the JewishGen Support Desk at support@jewishgen.org.

Parts II and III will not be posted, but those interested should contact
Al Wirtzbaum directly at <nycityal@erols.com>.


GINSBURG family of Marcus Hook/Linwood, PA #general

Ginsburg, Paul <GinsburgP@...>
 

If anyone recalls the GINSBURG family of
Marcus Hook/Linwood, PA, please contact
me. The family consisted of:

Father: Nathan GINSBURG (1874-1951)
Mother: Minnie (MAKRANSKY) GINSBURG (1879-1972)

Son: Harry GINSBURG(1903-1976)
Son: Isadore GINSBURG(1905-1989)
Son: Frank GINSBURG(1907-2000)
Daughter: Isabelle GINSBURG (1909-1994)
Daughter: Rose (GINSBURG) BERGER [Living]

Paul W. Ginsburg
Bethesda, MD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GINSBURG family of Marcus Hook/Linwood, PA #general

Ginsburg, Paul <GinsburgP@...>
 

If anyone recalls the GINSBURG family of
Marcus Hook/Linwood, PA, please contact
me. The family consisted of:

Father: Nathan GINSBURG (1874-1951)
Mother: Minnie (MAKRANSKY) GINSBURG (1879-1972)

Son: Harry GINSBURG(1903-1976)
Son: Isadore GINSBURG(1905-1989)
Son: Frank GINSBURG(1907-2000)
Daughter: Isabelle GINSBURG (1909-1994)
Daughter: Rose (GINSBURG) BERGER [Living]

Paul W. Ginsburg
Bethesda, MD


ZEIDELMAN Children #general

ctf-vif@...
 

I would like to find the children, and their descendants, of my great-
uncle and his wife, Joseph and Ida ZEIDELMAN, in Philadelphia, PA, USA
during the 1940s. Their names were Cheryl and Sheldon.

Cheryl may have been born in 1944 or 1945. My father, Norman Joseph
FRIEDMAN was a year or two older than her and I have seen photographs of
the two of them as children. My father said that he thinks she married,
but didn't know who.

I have even less information about Sheldon. I have seen a photograph of a
"Sheldon" in a navy uniform that was sent to my grandparents, Hirsch and
Annie FRIEDMAN, and I think this was Sheldon ZEIDELMAN. (I also have a
cousin named Sheldon BASS, who is related to me through my mother, that I
don't know where he or his descendants are.) Annie was Joseph ZEIDELMAN's
sister.

Vicki Ina Friedman
Acworth, GA, USA
ctf-vif@mindspring.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ZEIDELMAN Children #general

ctf-vif@...
 

I would like to find the children, and their descendants, of my great-
uncle and his wife, Joseph and Ida ZEIDELMAN, in Philadelphia, PA, USA
during the 1940s. Their names were Cheryl and Sheldon.

Cheryl may have been born in 1944 or 1945. My father, Norman Joseph
FRIEDMAN was a year or two older than her and I have seen photographs of
the two of them as children. My father said that he thinks she married,
but didn't know who.

I have even less information about Sheldon. I have seen a photograph of a
"Sheldon" in a navy uniform that was sent to my grandparents, Hirsch and
Annie FRIEDMAN, and I think this was Sheldon ZEIDELMAN. (I also have a
cousin named Sheldon BASS, who is related to me through my mother, that I
don't know where he or his descendants are.) Annie was Joseph ZEIDELMAN's
sister.

Vicki Ina Friedman
Acworth, GA, USA
ctf-vif@mindspring.com


3 SREBNIK (SILVERMAN) brothers from Vilna, Lithuania #general

Bernie Hirsch <bernie06@...>
 

Hello,

I am looking for information on the family of my great-grandfather,
Abraham SREBNIK (became SILVERMAN), born on 1 June 1887 in Vilna,
Lithuania. His parents were Jacob and Leah SREBNIK. His wife was Ida
SREBNIK, his first (1st) cousin, also >from Vilna, born 7 March 1889.
He immigrated to New York City in the early 1900s, and then moved south,
first to Shreveport, Louisiana, and then to New Orleans, where he died
on 16 July 1973.

Abraham (Abe) had two brothers, one of whom was named Gus. Gus
stayed in New York and had a son, Asa Silverman. I do not know the
name of the other brother, but he immigrated at the same time to
Montevidejo, Uruguay. The three brothers met once in the 1950s or
1960s, to meet each other >from their homes in New Orleans, New York,
and Montevidejo.

The full information on my great-grandfather and this branch is on
the Web at:

http://home.sprynet.com/~bernie06/famtree/g274.html
-or-
http://here.at/berniehirsch/famtree/g274.html

1 Jacob Srebnik, Vilna, Lithuania
+ Leah Srebnik, Vilna, Lithuania
2 Abraham (Silverman) Srebnik b. Vilna, Lithuania 1 Jun 1887 d.
New Orleans, Louisiana 16 Jul 1973
+ Ida Srebnik b. Vilna, Lithuania 7 Mar 1889 d. New Orleans,
Louisiana 13 Sep 1953 [First Cousin]
3 Alice Silverman b. 17 Jul 1920 d. May 1972 m. 23 Feb 1940
Charles Wood Gaylor Wendell b. 2 Feb 1910 d. Jul 1983
3 Tillie Silverman b. _____ d. 1998 m. Robert Cambre
3 Saul Silverman
3 Dorothy Silverman m. Stanley Levin
2 Gus (Silverman) Srebnik b. Vilna, Lithuania
3 Asa Silverman b. NYC
2 Unknown (Silverman) Srebnik b. Vilna, Lithuania d. Montevidejo,
Uruguay

I have already searched LDS for the New York passenger arrival lists,
and although I found an Abram Srebnik, it was not the correct one,
unfortunately. I saw no Gus Srebnik or Leah Srebnik, either. My
guess is that they would have all immigrated together, but I do not
know for sure. So far, I have not been able to get to the other side
of the pond for this line of my family -- even though I have been
highly successful in researching the Alsace, France and Lomza, Poland
sides of my family.

Any information or any pointers would be most kindly appreciated!

Kind regards,
Bernie Hirsch bernie06@sprynet.com Dallas, Texas USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 3 SREBNIK (SILVERMAN) brothers from Vilna, Lithuania #general

Bernie Hirsch <bernie06@...>
 

Hello,

I am looking for information on the family of my great-grandfather,
Abraham SREBNIK (became SILVERMAN), born on 1 June 1887 in Vilna,
Lithuania. His parents were Jacob and Leah SREBNIK. His wife was Ida
SREBNIK, his first (1st) cousin, also >from Vilna, born 7 March 1889.
He immigrated to New York City in the early 1900s, and then moved south,
first to Shreveport, Louisiana, and then to New Orleans, where he died
on 16 July 1973.

Abraham (Abe) had two brothers, one of whom was named Gus. Gus
stayed in New York and had a son, Asa Silverman. I do not know the
name of the other brother, but he immigrated at the same time to
Montevidejo, Uruguay. The three brothers met once in the 1950s or
1960s, to meet each other >from their homes in New Orleans, New York,
and Montevidejo.

The full information on my great-grandfather and this branch is on
the Web at:

http://home.sprynet.com/~bernie06/famtree/g274.html
-or-
http://here.at/berniehirsch/famtree/g274.html

1 Jacob Srebnik, Vilna, Lithuania
+ Leah Srebnik, Vilna, Lithuania
2 Abraham (Silverman) Srebnik b. Vilna, Lithuania 1 Jun 1887 d.
New Orleans, Louisiana 16 Jul 1973
+ Ida Srebnik b. Vilna, Lithuania 7 Mar 1889 d. New Orleans,
Louisiana 13 Sep 1953 [First Cousin]
3 Alice Silverman b. 17 Jul 1920 d. May 1972 m. 23 Feb 1940
Charles Wood Gaylor Wendell b. 2 Feb 1910 d. Jul 1983
3 Tillie Silverman b. _____ d. 1998 m. Robert Cambre
3 Saul Silverman
3 Dorothy Silverman m. Stanley Levin
2 Gus (Silverman) Srebnik b. Vilna, Lithuania
3 Asa Silverman b. NYC
2 Unknown (Silverman) Srebnik b. Vilna, Lithuania d. Montevidejo,
Uruguay

I have already searched LDS for the New York passenger arrival lists,
and although I found an Abram Srebnik, it was not the correct one,
unfortunately. I saw no Gus Srebnik or Leah Srebnik, either. My
guess is that they would have all immigrated together, but I do not
know for sure. So far, I have not been able to get to the other side
of the pond for this line of my family -- even though I have been
highly successful in researching the Alsace, France and Lomza, Poland
sides of my family.

Any information or any pointers would be most kindly appreciated!

Kind regards,
Bernie Hirsch bernie06@sprynet.com Dallas, Texas USA


Re: Warszawa civagogue registers vs civil registrations #warsaw #poland

Nicole Berline <nberline@...>
 

Dear Irene
In my understanding the Indexing Project JRI-Poland / Polish Stare Archives
for Warszawa ( indexing post 1868 records which were not microfilmed by
the LDS mormons)is far >from completed.
Even the existing LDS microfilms are not all indexed in JRI-Poland
database yet. members of this group are working on this right now.


My understanding is that the synagogues had to deposit all their books at
the State Archives. ( This is definetely the case in Sankt Petersburg
where I visited in person the Synagogue and the Historical State
Archive).
But I may be wrong; Thus I also would love to read an answer
by one of the JewishGen experts.

As for unofficial jewish records, there must exist some, even though
Warszawa was so much destroyed. Just think how many times you filled
some form with your name, address, birth date, birth place ...
What in bureaucratic 19th Century Poland !
But to research such documents, you need a professionnal researcher,
and a good one !
For example, a polish friend looked for me in the records of Pilsudsky
University, where my mother was a student in 1936-1938. Some registration
record books were not destroyed during the war. (Unfortunately my mother's
record was among the destroyed ones).

One great resource which is now accessible is the Warszawa Cemetary
database. You can read about it on JewishGen JRI-Poland website.

Good luck, and please send the list any information you obtain about
non civil records.

Nicole BERLINE, Paris
ROTENSZTEJN, ROCHMAN Warsawa, LEIBOVICH, Sankt-Petersburg
OGUS, ARONOVICH Paberze, Kaunas, Lithuania, TREIVAS Lithuania (?)
BERLIN Derechin, Slonim, Belarus,


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Re: Warszawa civagogue registers vs civil registrations #poland #warsaw

Nicole Berline <nberline@...>
 

Dear Irene
In my understanding the Indexing Project JRI-Poland / Polish Stare Archives
for Warszawa ( indexing post 1868 records which were not microfilmed by
the LDS mormons)is far >from completed.
Even the existing LDS microfilms are not all indexed in JRI-Poland
database yet. members of this group are working on this right now.


My understanding is that the synagogues had to deposit all their books at
the State Archives. ( This is definetely the case in Sankt Petersburg
where I visited in person the Synagogue and the Historical State
Archive).
But I may be wrong; Thus I also would love to read an answer
by one of the JewishGen experts.

As for unofficial jewish records, there must exist some, even though
Warszawa was so much destroyed. Just think how many times you filled
some form with your name, address, birth date, birth place ...
What in bureaucratic 19th Century Poland !
But to research such documents, you need a professionnal researcher,
and a good one !
For example, a polish friend looked for me in the records of Pilsudsky
University, where my mother was a student in 1936-1938. Some registration
record books were not destroyed during the war. (Unfortunately my mother's
record was among the destroyed ones).

One great resource which is now accessible is the Warszawa Cemetary
database. You can read about it on JewishGen JRI-Poland website.

Good luck, and please send the list any information you obtain about
non civil records.

Nicole BERLINE, Paris
ROTENSZTEJN, ROCHMAN Warsawa, LEIBOVICH, Sankt-Petersburg
OGUS, ARONOVICH Paberze, Kaunas, Lithuania, TREIVAS Lithuania (?)
BERLIN Derechin, Slonim, Belarus,


on-line REIPP #poland #warsaw

Michel BODKIER <bodkier@...>
 

Please , can someone tell me where I can find the on-line REIPP that Irene
Asinov is speaking about?

Michel BODKIER -FRANCE-

I'm quite new to this list but for a few time I was performing a search
regarding my Warsawa-borned ncestors off-line. The web allowed me to
enjoyed >from a dozen of new entrances founded in wounderful on-line REIPP
database.
Moderator's answer: REIPP is the old name for the project and database
which became Jewish Research Indexing-Poland ( JRI-Poland) in 1997.


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland on-line REIPP #warsaw #poland

Michel BODKIER <bodkier@...>
 

Please , can someone tell me where I can find the on-line REIPP that Irene
Asinov is speaking about?

Michel BODKIER -FRANCE-

I'm quite new to this list but for a few time I was performing a search
regarding my Warsawa-borned ncestors off-line. The web allowed me to
enjoyed >from a dozen of new entrances founded in wounderful on-line REIPP
database.
Moderator's answer: REIPP is the old name for the project and database
which became Jewish Research Indexing-Poland ( JRI-Poland) in 1997.


Help in Nashville, Tennessee -- ROSENZWEIG #general

Alan.Cooper@...
 

I am searching for any descendants of Morris and Esther Rosenzweig who
died in Nashville in 1889 and 1926, respectively. According to the 1900
U.S. Census, there were 5 children: Phillip (born 1878), David (born
1879), Lipman (born ?), Annie (born 1881) and Fannie (both 1884).

At some point, David Rosenzweig changed his surname to Rose. He died in
Nashville in February 1940 and is buried at the K,K.A.I (now West End
Synagogue) cemetary. His address at the time of his death was Harding
Road, Nashville, Tennessee.

I would very much appreciate any assistance anyone can provide as to
possible descendants.

Thank you.
Alan Cooper
alan.cooper@shawpittman.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help in Nashville, Tennessee -- ROSENZWEIG #general

Alan.Cooper@...
 

I am searching for any descendants of Morris and Esther Rosenzweig who
died in Nashville in 1889 and 1926, respectively. According to the 1900
U.S. Census, there were 5 children: Phillip (born 1878), David (born
1879), Lipman (born ?), Annie (born 1881) and Fannie (both 1884).

At some point, David Rosenzweig changed his surname to Rose. He died in
Nashville in February 1940 and is buried at the K,K.A.I (now West End
Synagogue) cemetary. His address at the time of his death was Harding
Road, Nashville, Tennessee.

I would very much appreciate any assistance anyone can provide as to
possible descendants.

Thank you.
Alan Cooper
alan.cooper@shawpittman.com


Name Clarification -- KARAS/KARASHOV #general

SBernst579@...
 

I am attempting to connect two branches of my family, one has the last
name of KARAS and the other has a last name of KARASHOV.

My question is, would the suffix HOV have any special meaning? Could these
two names be >from the same family?

Stewart Bernstein
Thousand Oaks, CA
.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Name Clarification -- KARAS/KARASHOV #general

SBernst579@...
 

I am attempting to connect two branches of my family, one has the last
name of KARAS and the other has a last name of KARASHOV.

My question is, would the suffix HOV have any special meaning? Could these
two names be >from the same family?

Stewart Bernstein
Thousand Oaks, CA
.


Correction re Mass. Vital Records - pre 1906 #general

luftman1@...
 

I'm sorry. The Massachusetts State Vital Records Office keeps the records
post 1905 (Birth, Marriage, Death.) The Vital Records for 1841-1905 are
kept at the

Mass. Archives at Columbia Point
220 Morrisey Blvd
Boston, Mass 02125

Tel 617-727-2816

I visit both and got them confused. Senility, I guess.

Al Luftman luftman1@aol.com Natick, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Correction re Mass. Vital Records - pre 1906 #general

luftman1@...
 

I'm sorry. The Massachusetts State Vital Records Office keeps the records
post 1905 (Birth, Marriage, Death.) The Vital Records for 1841-1905 are
kept at the

Mass. Archives at Columbia Point
220 Morrisey Blvd
Boston, Mass 02125

Tel 617-727-2816

I visit both and got them confused. Senility, I guess.

Al Luftman luftman1@aol.com Natick, MA