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Re: Brooklyn Cemetery info needed #general

Nachum <nachum@...>
 

Dear List Members,

I have 2 grandparents buried in Beth David in Elmont. I have checked the
various web sites of the NY area cemeteries.
The address for Beth David is 300 Elmont Ave, Queens, NY 11003. I was
wondering, however, if anyone knows of
an e-mail that I could use to contact the cemetery, which would help to
speed up contact with them.

My other 2 grandparents are buried on the Island at the Young Israel of
Flatbush section of some cemetery, but I don't
know which cemetery. Does anyone know where the YI of Flatbush section
is,
as well as an e-mail if possible. These
grandparents died in 1982 and 1983, if that helps.

TIA

Nachum Tuchman
Tekoa, Israel

I show a Beth David cemetery in Elmont, N.Y. 718-343-4000 also
Beth David Memorial Park in Kenilworth, N.J. 908-245-7100 and
Beth David Memorial Park in Union, N.J.


Kalisz and Stawiszyn records update #general

Susan Fifer <suef@...>
 

I am pleased to announce that the third batch of Kalisz records has
now been posted on the JRI (Jewish Records Indexing) database. This
batch covers the following years:

B 1821, 22, 29, 37-44, 46, 48, 51-54, 66, 67 ,91 ,92
M 1821, 29, 38-44, 46, 48, 52, 53, 66
D 1821, 29, 38-44, 52, 53, 66

This brings the number now available in the database to over 5100
(some 20 percent of the total in the Kalisz LDS films.)

I have also taken the town of Stawiszyn (some 8-10 miles north of
Kalisz) into the Shtetl CO-OP and the following records are now
available.

Stawiszyn
B 1808-11, 21-23, 26-65
M 1823, 26-62
D 1808-11, 23, 26-65

I have updated my website: www.suef.dial.pipex.com
to take account of these developments.

Sue Fifer

Sue Fifer, London, England
suef@dial.pipex.com


Re: SS-5 Applications #general

cpspier <cpspier@...>
 

My request was mailed on September 15, with no reply yet -- but they have
now cashed my $7 check, so I am encouraged!

Paula Spier
Brewster, MA

I was wondering if anyone here can tell me the normal waiting period
before one can expect to receive copies of SS-5 Applications (requests
sent to the SSA -Baltimore Maryland).


Re: Kultusbeamter #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 12/3/00 9:42:08 AM Eastern Standard Time,
fishback@southwind.net writes:

<< My Cousin was called the "Kultusbeamter" of Speyer in the 1930's.
Does anyone know just what a "Kultusbeamter" and, therefore, a
"Kultusamt" was? >>

The local religious communities were organized by the state, since early
1800's as "Kultusgemeinde." There was a Katolisch, Evangelisch and
"Juedische Kultusgemeinde" Kult is cognate with our Cult, Gemeinde is a
community.

Your cousin was therefore an employee of the organized local Jewish
community, probably not as rabbi, cantor, shochet or teacher (that
specialty would have been noted). In other words, most probably someone
working out of the office, most probably not the community president,
either.

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Brooklyn Cemetery info needed #general

Nachum <nachum@...>
 

Dear List Members,

I have 2 grandparents buried in Beth David in Elmont. I have checked the
various web sites of the NY area cemeteries.
The address for Beth David is 300 Elmont Ave, Queens, NY 11003. I was
wondering, however, if anyone knows of
an e-mail that I could use to contact the cemetery, which would help to
speed up contact with them.

My other 2 grandparents are buried on the Island at the Young Israel of
Flatbush section of some cemetery, but I don't
know which cemetery. Does anyone know where the YI of Flatbush section
is,
as well as an e-mail if possible. These
grandparents died in 1982 and 1983, if that helps.

TIA

Nachum Tuchman
Tekoa, Israel

I show a Beth David cemetery in Elmont, N.Y. 718-343-4000 also
Beth David Memorial Park in Kenilworth, N.J. 908-245-7100 and
Beth David Memorial Park in Union, N.J.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kalisz and Stawiszyn records update #general

Susan Fifer <suef@...>
 

I am pleased to announce that the third batch of Kalisz records has
now been posted on the JRI (Jewish Records Indexing) database. This
batch covers the following years:

B 1821, 22, 29, 37-44, 46, 48, 51-54, 66, 67 ,91 ,92
M 1821, 29, 38-44, 46, 48, 52, 53, 66
D 1821, 29, 38-44, 52, 53, 66

This brings the number now available in the database to over 5100
(some 20 percent of the total in the Kalisz LDS films.)

I have also taken the town of Stawiszyn (some 8-10 miles north of
Kalisz) into the Shtetl CO-OP and the following records are now
available.

Stawiszyn
B 1808-11, 21-23, 26-65
M 1823, 26-62
D 1808-11, 23, 26-65

I have updated my website: www.suef.dial.pipex.com
to take account of these developments.

Sue Fifer

Sue Fifer, London, England
suef@dial.pipex.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SS-5 Applications #general

cpspier <cpspier@...>
 

My request was mailed on September 15, with no reply yet -- but they have
now cashed my $7 check, so I am encouraged!

Paula Spier
Brewster, MA

I was wondering if anyone here can tell me the normal waiting period
before one can expect to receive copies of SS-5 Applications (requests
sent to the SSA -Baltimore Maryland).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Kultusbeamter #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 12/3/00 9:42:08 AM Eastern Standard Time,
fishback@southwind.net writes:

<< My Cousin was called the "Kultusbeamter" of Speyer in the 1930's.
Does anyone know just what a "Kultusbeamter" and, therefore, a
"Kultusamt" was? >>

The local religious communities were organized by the state, since early
1800's as "Kultusgemeinde." There was a Katolisch, Evangelisch and
"Juedische Kultusgemeinde" Kult is cognate with our Cult, Gemeinde is a
community.

Your cousin was therefore an employee of the organized local Jewish
community, probably not as rabbi, cantor, shochet or teacher (that
specialty would have been noted). In other words, most probably someone
working out of the office, most probably not the community president,
either.

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


City or telephone directories in France #general

Mjn519@...
 

Does France have anything similar to city/telephone directories that we
have in the US >from around the 1930's? The area I'm looking for is Paris
and also the region of Maine. If so, how would one access it here in the
United States?
Thank you.
Marie Lubman
Chino Hills, CA
ROTHSTEIN in France
GUTERMAN/GUTTERMAN IN Kalvarija, Lithuania
GREENSTONE, AUGUST, LUBMAN, FISCHER, RIVIN, MATZ, ZACHER, SOLOMON, TALBURG


Ethics - genealogy research #general

Lilli Sprintz <spri0037@...>
 

Hi,

I just spent part of today doing some research at the Minnesota History
Center in St. Paul, MN (USA). It's part of an agreement I made with
some folks to do that.

I started having some thoughts about that - the genealogy research process
- which I would like to share, and invite any thoughtful
responses (either as a thread, or privately).

1 & 1/2 years ago I started researching the history of one side of my
family. In the process, I undercovered lots of information I had not
been raised with. Mostly, information not passed on because of particular
issues that made it difficult for some of my family members to
do. These involved issues of shame for being poor, or starting out
somewhere (like in Europe) with some money, and coming to the US and
winding up poor; issues of mental health difficulties due to the strain of
persecution and leaving one's previous country; and then of
course the usual embarassment of dealing with oppression issues and trying
to sort those things out in the process of sometimes separating
from other family members.
It's all kind of messy sometimes. I feel privileged to have been privy to
some of this information, even when it is my own family. People
had to keep secrets when they came to this country, and for real reasons.

It made me think of the people I am doing some research for, and issues of
keeping privacy about their families. Just made me think about
those issues. And yet, the other side of this is to sometimes having to
be bold and "pushy," to mentioned a too-often disparaged word
associated with Jews. How to ask people the right way, and when to ask,
and what, is something I have questions about. When to be bold,
and when to be soft. It's a challenge knowing when and what. Does this
make any sense to people? And then when it is my own family, there
is a little bit of desperation about wanting information before the
sources of that information "disappear," sort of speak.

How to do this.

I welcome responses.

Lilli Sprintz
spri0037@tc.umn.edu


Spouse Marker #general

Jack Fishback <fishback@...>
 

Is it possible to have a *marker* on the Family Page (Data Entry Page) to
indicate that there are other spouses under a name? This would be a
great advantage when examining a Family Page so we would know to check the
Spouses.

Jack Fishback
fishback@southwind.net


Kultusbeamter #general

Jack Fishback <fishback@...>
 

My Cousin was called the "Kultusbeamter" of Speyer in the 1930's.
Does anyone know just what a "Kultusbeamter" and, therefore, a
"Kultusamt" was?

Jack Fishback
fishback@southwind.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen City or telephone directories in France #general

Mjn519@...
 

Does France have anything similar to city/telephone directories that we
have in the US >from around the 1930's? The area I'm looking for is Paris
and also the region of Maine. If so, how would one access it here in the
United States?
Thank you.
Marie Lubman
Chino Hills, CA
ROTHSTEIN in France
GUTERMAN/GUTTERMAN IN Kalvarija, Lithuania
GREENSTONE, AUGUST, LUBMAN, FISCHER, RIVIN, MATZ, ZACHER, SOLOMON, TALBURG


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ethics - genealogy research #general

Lilli Sprintz <spri0037@...>
 

Hi,

I just spent part of today doing some research at the Minnesota History
Center in St. Paul, MN (USA). It's part of an agreement I made with
some folks to do that.

I started having some thoughts about that - the genealogy research process
- which I would like to share, and invite any thoughtful
responses (either as a thread, or privately).

1 & 1/2 years ago I started researching the history of one side of my
family. In the process, I undercovered lots of information I had not
been raised with. Mostly, information not passed on because of particular
issues that made it difficult for some of my family members to
do. These involved issues of shame for being poor, or starting out
somewhere (like in Europe) with some money, and coming to the US and
winding up poor; issues of mental health difficulties due to the strain of
persecution and leaving one's previous country; and then of
course the usual embarassment of dealing with oppression issues and trying
to sort those things out in the process of sometimes separating
from other family members.
It's all kind of messy sometimes. I feel privileged to have been privy to
some of this information, even when it is my own family. People
had to keep secrets when they came to this country, and for real reasons.

It made me think of the people I am doing some research for, and issues of
keeping privacy about their families. Just made me think about
those issues. And yet, the other side of this is to sometimes having to
be bold and "pushy," to mentioned a too-often disparaged word
associated with Jews. How to ask people the right way, and when to ask,
and what, is something I have questions about. When to be bold,
and when to be soft. It's a challenge knowing when and what. Does this
make any sense to people? And then when it is my own family, there
is a little bit of desperation about wanting information before the
sources of that information "disappear," sort of speak.

How to do this.

I welcome responses.

Lilli Sprintz
spri0037@tc.umn.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Spouse Marker #general

Jack Fishback <fishback@...>
 

Is it possible to have a *marker* on the Family Page (Data Entry Page) to
indicate that there are other spouses under a name? This would be a
great advantage when examining a Family Page so we would know to check the
Spouses.

Jack Fishback
fishback@southwind.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kultusbeamter #general

Jack Fishback <fishback@...>
 

My Cousin was called the "Kultusbeamter" of Speyer in the 1930's.
Does anyone know just what a "Kultusbeamter" and, therefore, a
"Kultusamt" was?

Jack Fishback
fishback@southwind.net


Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives Records to be Indexed-We need our help! #lodz #poland

Joe Ross <jaross115@...>
 

Late 19th Century Records For Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives to be
indexed; you have a unique opportunity to help

Late 19th Century Records For Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives
Making it accessible - on-line.
It's happening now

Dear Fellow Researchers,

Many of us researching our ancestors >from Poland have found valuable
information in the microfilms of the LDS Family History Centers. For the
last several years, this effort has gained momentum because more than
800,000 of the records in the LDS collection have been indexed and are
available on the Internet through the searchable database of Jewish Records
Indexing- Poland (http://www.jewishgen/JRI-PL). The indexes themselves
provide valuable genealogical data and enable one to zero in on specific
documents for further research.

The Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives contain the records of four towns
nearby to Lodz- Brzeziny, Rawa Mazowieki, Skierniewice and Biala Rawska. The
LDS films for these towns end just before we get to the records for the
people we know through family stories or contemporary records.

But now, indexes to Polish-Jewish records for the years not filmed by the
Mormons -up to 1898- are in the process of development and addition to the
Jewish Records-Indexing -Poland database under a groundbreaking agreement
between JRI-Poland and the Polish State Archives (PSA). For information
about the PSA project see: http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psastat.htm

This means that when indexes are completed for Rawa Mazowieki Polish State
Archives, this new material will finally allow you to expand your research
into a time period that has been elusive and beyond your reach. In most
cases this period - 1878-1898 - is the missing link in our genealogical
chain - the time when our grandparents and their sisters and brothers were
born and were married. Once these indexes are completed, you may simply
print out an order form >from the Jewish Records Indexing-Poland web site and
order the records >from the Polish State Archives.

I have agreed to take on the responsibility of Rawa Mazowieki Polish State
Archives Coordinator. Please join me in making this extremely worthwhile
and exciting project a success. Your participation in this project can help
bring to light information you may have never imagined you would find.
Please spread the word to everyone you are in contact with who has an
interest in Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives -- family, friends,
co-researchers. All should be encouraged to participate.

Updates on the JRI-Poland/PSA Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives will be
available in the future at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psastat.htm, click on "Status Report: PSA
Project Underway" which is the last line in the heading of this page.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

Sincerely,

Joe Ross
Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives Coordinator


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives Records to be Indexed-We need our help! #lodz #poland

Joe Ross <jaross115@...>
 

Late 19th Century Records For Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives to be
indexed; you have a unique opportunity to help

Late 19th Century Records For Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives
Making it accessible - on-line.
It's happening now

Dear Fellow Researchers,

Many of us researching our ancestors >from Poland have found valuable
information in the microfilms of the LDS Family History Centers. For the
last several years, this effort has gained momentum because more than
800,000 of the records in the LDS collection have been indexed and are
available on the Internet through the searchable database of Jewish Records
Indexing- Poland (http://www.jewishgen/JRI-PL). The indexes themselves
provide valuable genealogical data and enable one to zero in on specific
documents for further research.

The Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives contain the records of four towns
nearby to Lodz- Brzeziny, Rawa Mazowieki, Skierniewice and Biala Rawska. The
LDS films for these towns end just before we get to the records for the
people we know through family stories or contemporary records.

But now, indexes to Polish-Jewish records for the years not filmed by the
Mormons -up to 1898- are in the process of development and addition to the
Jewish Records-Indexing -Poland database under a groundbreaking agreement
between JRI-Poland and the Polish State Archives (PSA). For information
about the PSA project see: http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psastat.htm

This means that when indexes are completed for Rawa Mazowieki Polish State
Archives, this new material will finally allow you to expand your research
into a time period that has been elusive and beyond your reach. In most
cases this period - 1878-1898 - is the missing link in our genealogical
chain - the time when our grandparents and their sisters and brothers were
born and were married. Once these indexes are completed, you may simply
print out an order form >from the Jewish Records Indexing-Poland web site and
order the records >from the Polish State Archives.

I have agreed to take on the responsibility of Rawa Mazowieki Polish State
Archives Coordinator. Please join me in making this extremely worthwhile
and exciting project a success. Your participation in this project can help
bring to light information you may have never imagined you would find.
Please spread the word to everyone you are in contact with who has an
interest in Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives -- family, friends,
co-researchers. All should be encouraged to participate.

Updates on the JRI-Poland/PSA Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives will be
available in the future at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psastat.htm, click on "Status Report: PSA
Project Underway" which is the last line in the heading of this page.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

Sincerely,

Joe Ross
Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives Coordinator


Re: Nasz Przeglad copies. #warsaw #poland

Nicole Berline <nberline@...>
 

Dear Diana
my BERLIN family comes >from Grodno Gubernya, now Belarus.
They are not connected to Warszawa:
my father met my mother Ruchla ROTENSTEJN ( she was born in Warszawa)
in Toulouse France during WWII ...
Unfortubnately BERLIN is an awfully common name.
Good luck !
Nicole BERLINE
searching ROTENSZTEJN ROCHMAN RAKOWER Warsawa
BERLIN ISAAC Derechin Slonim (Belarus)
OGUS ARONOWICH Paberze, Kaunas LEIBOVICH St Petersburg

----- Message d'origine -----
De : John & Diana Terry <jterry@picknowl.com.au>

I read your e-mail to the Group with interest. I found the name of an
Ancestor also on Nasz Przeglad and her name was ROZA BERLINER WECHSLER, from
Warsaw, Poland but died in Buenos Aires, in 1937.. I was wondering
whether your surname was BERLINER or just BERLINE. My name was BERLINER and
I have been researching my Family for years.

Kind regards
DIANA TERRY - AUSTRALIA
jterry@picknowl.com.au


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Re: Nasz Przeglad copies. #warsaw #poland

Nicole Berline <nberline@...>
 

Dear Diana
my BERLIN family comes >from Grodno Gubernya, now Belarus.
They are not connected to Warszawa:
my father met my mother Ruchla ROTENSTEJN ( she was born in Warszawa)
in Toulouse France during WWII ...
Unfortubnately BERLIN is an awfully common name.
Good luck !
Nicole BERLINE
searching ROTENSZTEJN ROCHMAN RAKOWER Warsawa
BERLIN ISAAC Derechin Slonim (Belarus)
OGUS ARONOWICH Paberze, Kaunas LEIBOVICH St Petersburg

----- Message d'origine -----
De : John & Diana Terry <jterry@picknowl.com.au>

I read your e-mail to the Group with interest. I found the name of an
Ancestor also on Nasz Przeglad and her name was ROZA BERLINER WECHSLER, from
Warsaw, Poland but died in Buenos Aires, in 1937.. I was wondering
whether your surname was BERLINER or just BERLINE. My name was BERLINER and
I have been researching my Family for years.

Kind regards
DIANA TERRY - AUSTRALIA
jterry@picknowl.com.au