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Family reaction #general

debjkay <debjkay@...>
 

<< I've been so excited about all my discoveries, as well as thrilled to
hear of other family's searches--thrilled to the point where I feel such
a deep Jewish identity!--that it's beginning to hurt me not to be able to
share these discoveries with the remaining living members of my family.
An irony or just another familiar story? Maybe I'm just upset about
what "family" is. Or isn't. >>

I have been reading various replys to the above message during the weekend,
and thought about my own mixed, mostly lukewarm reactions >from family
(including my kids, one of whom gave me a poster "Genealogy--where you
confuse the dead and irritate the living), but also I have "met", in person,
by telephone and mail, some people, mostly elderly, who are quite delighted,
including an older relative (85+) who only found out his grandmother's name
from me.
Then, one of the "moments" we all wait for occurred--after several months of
exchanging email with people in Australia, many "I think I know someone who
knew someone..." I just got an email >from a branch of my family "lost" for
70 years, >from an ecstatic woman whose mother, my great-grandmother's
sister, had died when she was young--I had found her, and _she_ had found her
family, not just me, but individuals I could direct her to who are her_first_
cousins, still alive. They are in Canada and Israel, and needless to say,
never would have found each other otherwise.

So, the answer, I think, in my never to be humble opinion is this--we have
our own personal successes, and then, every once in a while, something
amazing.

Hang in there.

Debra Kay
debjkay@msn.com
Simi Valley, Ca


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family reaction #general

debjkay <debjkay@...>
 

<< I've been so excited about all my discoveries, as well as thrilled to
hear of other family's searches--thrilled to the point where I feel such
a deep Jewish identity!--that it's beginning to hurt me not to be able to
share these discoveries with the remaining living members of my family.
An irony or just another familiar story? Maybe I'm just upset about
what "family" is. Or isn't. >>

I have been reading various replys to the above message during the weekend,
and thought about my own mixed, mostly lukewarm reactions >from family
(including my kids, one of whom gave me a poster "Genealogy--where you
confuse the dead and irritate the living), but also I have "met", in person,
by telephone and mail, some people, mostly elderly, who are quite delighted,
including an older relative (85+) who only found out his grandmother's name
from me.
Then, one of the "moments" we all wait for occurred--after several months of
exchanging email with people in Australia, many "I think I know someone who
knew someone..." I just got an email >from a branch of my family "lost" for
70 years, >from an ecstatic woman whose mother, my great-grandmother's
sister, had died when she was young--I had found her, and _she_ had found her
family, not just me, but individuals I could direct her to who are her_first_
cousins, still alive. They are in Canada and Israel, and needless to say,
never would have found each other otherwise.

So, the answer, I think, in my never to be humble opinion is this--we have
our own personal successes, and then, every once in a while, something
amazing.

Hang in there.

Debra Kay
debjkay@msn.com
Simi Valley, Ca


1900 jobs and salaries in New York #general

Edward Rosenbaum <erosenbaum@...>
 

Does anyone have a list of jobs and salaries that our immigrant ancestors
may have had in New York City around 1900? To go along with this, does
anyone have a list of typical prices for various goods?

Thanks you very much.

Edward Rosenbaum
Bergenfield, NJ
Webmaster, Belarus SIG ( http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus )
President, JGS of Bergen County, New Jersey
email: erosenbaum@mail.com

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1900 jobs and salaries in New York #general

Edward Rosenbaum <erosenbaum@...>
 

Does anyone have a list of jobs and salaries that our immigrant ancestors
may have had in New York City around 1900? To go along with this, does
anyone have a list of typical prices for various goods?

Thanks you very much.

Edward Rosenbaum
Bergenfield, NJ
Webmaster, Belarus SIG ( http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus )
President, JGS of Bergen County, New Jersey
email: erosenbaum@mail.com

Moderator Note: Second URL deleted as it was not accessible when checked.


Re: Reaching Out #ukraine

FREYAB@...
 

Dear Mark Saul,

Many of us found ourselves in this exact same spot. Contacting relatives who
do not know they are relatives can be disconcerting especially on the
receiving end.
I always included a genealogy chart showing that persons family in relation
to my own. You might also include the statement you made in your query -
"I have lists of names, and even addresses, of distant
relatives in America whom I would like to contact. My
grandparents knew their grandparents, my parents
corresponded with their parents, but time has passed
and I don't know them or their adult children. "

Also include your telephone number and most importantly - a self addressed
stamped envelope (or international postal coupon).
This is what worked for me and I rarely had a problem with anyone questioning
my intentions.

Sincerely,
Freya Blitstein Maslov
Morton Grove, IL


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Reaching Out #ukraine

FREYAB@...
 

Dear Mark Saul,

Many of us found ourselves in this exact same spot. Contacting relatives who
do not know they are relatives can be disconcerting especially on the
receiving end.
I always included a genealogy chart showing that persons family in relation
to my own. You might also include the statement you made in your query -
"I have lists of names, and even addresses, of distant
relatives in America whom I would like to contact. My
grandparents knew their grandparents, my parents
corresponded with their parents, but time has passed
and I don't know them or their adult children. "

Also include your telephone number and most importantly - a self addressed
stamped envelope (or international postal coupon).
This is what worked for me and I rarely had a problem with anyone questioning
my intentions.

Sincerely,
Freya Blitstein Maslov
Morton Grove, IL


Re: Fraternal Significant Tie Tack or Lapel Pin? #general

Susan&David
 

Hello Shmuel: KSBA probably stands for Kishinev Sick & Benvolent Association

David Rosen
Boston, MA

Shmuel Fisher wrote:

Dear Genners,

This morning thinking about this lapel pin the year 1903 struck home.
The family story was that my father came >from Kishinev(the K). 1903 was
the year of the progrom.
Therefore, was there any organization in the USA that commemorated the
progrom that had the initials, KSBA?
Shmuel Fisher
mailto:Shmuel@deltanet.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Fraternal Significant Tie Tack or Lapel Pin? #general

Susan&David
 

Hello Shmuel: KSBA probably stands for Kishinev Sick & Benvolent Association

David Rosen
Boston, MA

Shmuel Fisher wrote:

Dear Genners,

This morning thinking about this lapel pin the year 1903 struck home.
The family story was that my father came >from Kishinev(the K). 1903 was
the year of the progrom.
Therefore, was there any organization in the USA that commemorated the
progrom that had the initials, KSBA?
Shmuel Fisher
mailto:Shmuel@deltanet.com


Portuguese Translation Help Needed = ViewMate file VM106 #general

BQLdc@...
 

I would greatly appreciate help with translation of ViewMate file VM 106.
This document, in Portuguese, is approximately 300 years old (Hebrew year
5459.) It bears the signature of my ancestor, Aron Querido. Thanks for
your help.

Bradford Querido Levine
BQLdc@aol.com

Moderator Note: The URL for the ViewMate page is:
http://www.JewishGen.org/Viewmate/toview.html


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Portuguese Translation Help Needed = ViewMate file VM106 #general

BQLdc@...
 

I would greatly appreciate help with translation of ViewMate file VM 106.
This document, in Portuguese, is approximately 300 years old (Hebrew year
5459.) It bears the signature of my ancestor, Aron Querido. Thanks for
your help.

Bradford Querido Levine
BQLdc@aol.com

Moderator Note: The URL for the ViewMate page is:
http://www.JewishGen.org/Viewmate/toview.html


Disinterest of Family Members #general

Carol Rombro Rider
 

<< I've been so excited about all my discoveries, as well as thrilled to
hear of other family's searchs--thrilled to the point where I feel such
a deep Jewish identity!--that it's beginning to hurt me not to be able to
share these discoveries with the remaining living members of my family.
An irony or just another familiar story? Maybe I'm just upset about
what "family" is. Or isn't. >>

I think all of this on this group empathize with you; we have all been
in your situation. It is sometimes difficult to be the only one in your
family jumping up and down with joy when you have made a discovery. Many
years ago I attended a lecture given by Arthur Kurzwiel, who told a story
when he first began his research. He was sitting in an archive when
someone jumped up shouting, thrilled that they had just discovered a
connection with their family and Abraham Lincoln. At the time, he didn't
understand what they were so excited about.

All of us on this group enjoy hearing how others have made wonderful
connections. This is the heart and soul of genealogy and why we do it.
Remember that you can always share it with us, your "other" family!

Carol Rombro Rider
Baltimore, Maryland
CRomRider@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Disinterest of Family Members #general

Carol Rombro Rider
 

<< I've been so excited about all my discoveries, as well as thrilled to
hear of other family's searchs--thrilled to the point where I feel such
a deep Jewish identity!--that it's beginning to hurt me not to be able to
share these discoveries with the remaining living members of my family.
An irony or just another familiar story? Maybe I'm just upset about
what "family" is. Or isn't. >>

I think all of this on this group empathize with you; we have all been
in your situation. It is sometimes difficult to be the only one in your
family jumping up and down with joy when you have made a discovery. Many
years ago I attended a lecture given by Arthur Kurzwiel, who told a story
when he first began his research. He was sitting in an archive when
someone jumped up shouting, thrilled that they had just discovered a
connection with their family and Abraham Lincoln. At the time, he didn't
understand what they were so excited about.

All of us on this group enjoy hearing how others have made wonderful
connections. This is the heart and soul of genealogy and why we do it.
Remember that you can always share it with us, your "other" family!

Carol Rombro Rider
Baltimore, Maryland
CRomRider@aol.com


JewishGen ViewMate Posting: Erste Yedinitz Yiddish Document #general

Yedinitz@...
 

To any and all Yiddish speaking researchers:

A 1938 notarized document written in Yiddish that may relate to the
Yedinitz (Yedintsy), Bessarabia landsmanschaftn has been posted as of
Satuday, November 25, 2000 on the JewishGen ViewMate site. If you know
anyone that can help us translate this document please direct them to
the following site address. The posting will be available for
* one week only* until next Saturday, December 2, 2000.

http://www.JewishGen.org/Viewmate/toview.html

They should then click on document VM108 listed within the Hebrew/Yiddish
section looking for translation help.

The document was provided by the Erste Yedinitzer / First Yedinitzer
Asociation in NYC. The officers of the Association have no idea what the
document refers to. All replies should be sent to Yedinitz@aol.com.

Thank you,

Eric Schwartzman
Yedinitz@aol.com Personal Genealogical correspondence (generally)
Yedintsy@aol.com Yedintsy Bessarabia Discussion Group

Personally researching:
from Yedinitz/Yedintsy(now Edinet, Moldova):
SCHWARTZMAN, ABRAHAMS, GOLDBERG, FUCHS
from Rohatyn (Galicia): PREISS, BOBNER
from Hamburg: POLACK
from Galgocz, Hungary (now Hlohovec, Slovakia): WIEDDER
from Hungary: ZINK, SCHWARTZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JewishGen ViewMate Posting: Erste Yedinitz Yiddish Document #general

Yedinitz@...
 

To any and all Yiddish speaking researchers:

A 1938 notarized document written in Yiddish that may relate to the
Yedinitz (Yedintsy), Bessarabia landsmanschaftn has been posted as of
Satuday, November 25, 2000 on the JewishGen ViewMate site. If you know
anyone that can help us translate this document please direct them to
the following site address. The posting will be available for
* one week only* until next Saturday, December 2, 2000.

http://www.JewishGen.org/Viewmate/toview.html

They should then click on document VM108 listed within the Hebrew/Yiddish
section looking for translation help.

The document was provided by the Erste Yedinitzer / First Yedinitzer
Asociation in NYC. The officers of the Association have no idea what the
document refers to. All replies should be sent to Yedinitz@aol.com.

Thank you,

Eric Schwartzman
Yedinitz@aol.com Personal Genealogical correspondence (generally)
Yedintsy@aol.com Yedintsy Bessarabia Discussion Group

Personally researching:
from Yedinitz/Yedintsy(now Edinet, Moldova):
SCHWARTZMAN, ABRAHAMS, GOLDBERG, FUCHS
from Rohatyn (Galicia): PREISS, BOBNER
from Hamburg: POLACK
from Galgocz, Hungary (now Hlohovec, Slovakia): WIEDDER
from Hungary: ZINK, SCHWARTZ


Viewmate 103 and 104 #general

Patti Couture <pjcouture@...>
 

Dear Genners

I have submitted two photos of the Gedansky family, if someone
would be kind enough to translate, # 103 and 104.
Thank you all in advance, Patti Couture


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate 103 and 104 #general

Patti Couture <pjcouture@...>
 

Dear Genners

I have submitted two photos of the Gedansky family, if someone
would be kind enough to translate, # 103 and 104.
Thank you all in advance, Patti Couture


Re: R. Yacov Shimshon of Shepetovka - Tiberias cemetery help needed #ukraine

Raanan S Isseroff <raanan1@...>
 

BS"D

Call the Rav of Tiberias.
Or Call the ASCENT institute in Sfat.
They have regualar tours to the graves of Tzaddikim in that area.
ASCENT OF SAFED
2 Ari Road, P O Box 296
13102 Zefat
Israel
tel: 06 692-1364
fax: 972-6-692-1942
Internet: http://www.ascent.org.il
E-mail subscriptions and dedications: <weekly@ascent.org.il>
Raanan S. Isseroff
Brooklyn, USA

On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 20:10:00 -0500 "Paul W. Ginsburg"
<g521@bellatlantic.net> writes:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please visit the Ukraine SIG web site
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Does anyone know what cemetery the famous hasidic rabbi, R. Yacov
Shimshon
of Shepetovka is buried in Tiberias? I am trying to obtain a
photograph of
his gravesite to post on a webpage I have created about him. The
web page
can be viewed at:

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~pauldana/shepetovkarabbi.htm

Thank you in advance for your help.

Paul W. Ginsburg
Sudilkov Online Landsmanshaft
http://www.sudilkov.com
Bethesda, MD


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: R. Yacov Shimshon of Shepetovka - Tiberias cemetery help needed #ukraine

Raanan S Isseroff <raanan1@...>
 

BS"D

Call the Rav of Tiberias.
Or Call the ASCENT institute in Sfat.
They have regualar tours to the graves of Tzaddikim in that area.
ASCENT OF SAFED
2 Ari Road, P O Box 296
13102 Zefat
Israel
tel: 06 692-1364
fax: 972-6-692-1942
Internet: http://www.ascent.org.il
E-mail subscriptions and dedications: <weekly@ascent.org.il>
Raanan S. Isseroff
Brooklyn, USA

On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 20:10:00 -0500 "Paul W. Ginsburg"
<g521@bellatlantic.net> writes:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please visit the Ukraine SIG web site
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Does anyone know what cemetery the famous hasidic rabbi, R. Yacov
Shimshon
of Shepetovka is buried in Tiberias? I am trying to obtain a
photograph of
his gravesite to post on a webpage I have created about him. The
web page
can be viewed at:

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~pauldana/shepetovkarabbi.htm

Thank you in advance for your help.

Paul W. Ginsburg
Sudilkov Online Landsmanshaft
http://www.sudilkov.com
Bethesda, MD


Re: Missing Pieces of the Puzzle #ukraine

Raanan S Isseroff <raanan1@...>
 

BS"D

"google-moogle" is also good with a shot of Vodka and orange juice
concentrate beaten into the egg and other stuff. I believe the word
comes >from "Gog and MaGog" This is a traditional Jewish cure for sore
throats.
I saw a Chazon down one of these once (Made by his Russian grandmother)
before davening Rosh Hashanna.

Raanan Isseroff

On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 21:18:05 EST Rokoco1@aol.com writes:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please visit the Ukraine SIG web site
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My mother used to make me "google-moogle" when I had laryngitis. It

consisted of an egg yolk beaten with lots of sugar. Does this sound
like
your remedy? Perhaps remedies familiar to some families shows that
these
remedies were used in certain areas.

Sincerely,

Bobbi Cohen
San Diego, Ca Rokoco1@al.com
MODERATOR's NOTE: Although this thread was "officially" & "soberly" closed a couple of days ago, Raanan's commentary seemed like THE definitive gogl'-mogol' recipe on which to say "L'chaim" - at last. It was irresistable. <VBG>


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Missing Pieces of the Puzzle #ukraine

Raanan S Isseroff <raanan1@...>
 

BS"D

"google-moogle" is also good with a shot of Vodka and orange juice
concentrate beaten into the egg and other stuff. I believe the word
comes >from "Gog and MaGog" This is a traditional Jewish cure for sore
throats.
I saw a Chazon down one of these once (Made by his Russian grandmother)
before davening Rosh Hashanna.

Raanan Isseroff

On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 21:18:05 EST Rokoco1@aol.com writes:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please visit the Ukraine SIG web site
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My mother used to make me "google-moogle" when I had laryngitis. It

consisted of an egg yolk beaten with lots of sugar. Does this sound
like
your remedy? Perhaps remedies familiar to some families shows that
these
remedies were used in certain areas.

Sincerely,

Bobbi Cohen
San Diego, Ca Rokoco1@al.com
MODERATOR's NOTE: Although this thread was "officially" & "soberly" closed a couple of days ago, Raanan's commentary seemed like THE definitive gogl'-mogol' recipe on which to say "L'chaim" - at last. It was irresistable. <VBG>