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Re: Berlin #general

Jonas Kuschner <jonas.kuschner@...>
 

You would probably be interested in Jacob Jacobson's publications.They
contain much supplementary genealogical information in addition to what
the titles say.

Jacob Jacobson: Juedische Trauungen in Berlin 1759-1813: mit
Ergaenzungen fuer die Jahre von 1723 bis 1759 (Berlin 1968).

Jacob Jacobson: Die Judenbuergerbuecher der Stadt Berlin 1809-1851:
mit Ergaenzungen fuer die Jahre 1791-1809 (Berlin 1962).

"monsanto" <monsanto@interneeds.net> wrote in message
news:01c049f6$1f594360$e43406d8@chris...

Does anyone know if there is a book or publication for early Jewish BMD
of Berlin like f.i. the Bevis Mark Records in London.Looking for a Jewish
family in 18th century Berlin or surrounding villages. Has anyone done
research in that timeframe in the Berlin area and can give some advise?

From: Christel Monsanto
mailto:monsanto@interneeds.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Berlin #general

Jonas Kuschner <jonas.kuschner@...>
 

You would probably be interested in Jacob Jacobson's publications.They
contain much supplementary genealogical information in addition to what
the titles say.

Jacob Jacobson: Juedische Trauungen in Berlin 1759-1813: mit
Ergaenzungen fuer die Jahre von 1723 bis 1759 (Berlin 1968).

Jacob Jacobson: Die Judenbuergerbuecher der Stadt Berlin 1809-1851:
mit Ergaenzungen fuer die Jahre 1791-1809 (Berlin 1962).

"monsanto" <monsanto@interneeds.net> wrote in message
news:01c049f6$1f594360$e43406d8@chris...

Does anyone know if there is a book or publication for early Jewish BMD
of Berlin like f.i. the Bevis Mark Records in London.Looking for a Jewish
family in 18th century Berlin or surrounding villages. Has anyone done
research in that timeframe in the Berlin area and can give some advise?

From: Christel Monsanto
mailto:monsanto@interneeds.net


Re: SATINOVER from Satanov #ukraine

Brandler Institute of Chasidic Thought <bict@...>
 

Though I do not have any specific information about this family, I visited
the city of Satanov this past August, as part of a trip to ascertain the
condition of the Jewish cemeteries in the area. Satanov is one of the few
cemeteries in this area that has a fairly large amount of gravestones (in
various stages of disrepair) still standing. Unfortunately the cemetery has
become a "hang out" for local rowdy youths, and when I tried to photograph
the tombstones I was attacked by a gang of 10-15 youths shouting
anti-Semitic slurs. Since I was alone, it was only through the great
kindness of the Al-mighty that I managed to escape (by running down a very
steep hill) and get into the car before they were able to inflict actual
physical harm. (They actually chased me down the hill and were only a few
feet away >from the car when I we drove off!)
I also conducted a brief interview with local gentiles about the fate of the
Jews of the area during WWII. Please feel free to contact me directly for
more info.

Satanov was home to a thriving Chasidic community before the war, and was
famous for the Chasidic Master and Kabbalist Reb Yisroel of Satanov
(1696-1781) a close disciple of the BESH"T.

Abraham J. Heschel

Director
Brandler Institute of Chasidic Thought
Brooklyn, NY


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: SATINOVER from Satanov #ukraine

Brandler Institute of Chasidic Thought <bict@...>
 

Though I do not have any specific information about this family, I visited
the city of Satanov this past August, as part of a trip to ascertain the
condition of the Jewish cemeteries in the area. Satanov is one of the few
cemeteries in this area that has a fairly large amount of gravestones (in
various stages of disrepair) still standing. Unfortunately the cemetery has
become a "hang out" for local rowdy youths, and when I tried to photograph
the tombstones I was attacked by a gang of 10-15 youths shouting
anti-Semitic slurs. Since I was alone, it was only through the great
kindness of the Al-mighty that I managed to escape (by running down a very
steep hill) and get into the car before they were able to inflict actual
physical harm. (They actually chased me down the hill and were only a few
feet away >from the car when I we drove off!)
I also conducted a brief interview with local gentiles about the fate of the
Jews of the area during WWII. Please feel free to contact me directly for
more info.

Satanov was home to a thriving Chasidic community before the war, and was
famous for the Chasidic Master and Kabbalist Reb Yisroel of Satanov
(1696-1781) a close disciple of the BESH"T.

Abraham J. Heschel

Director
Brandler Institute of Chasidic Thought
Brooklyn, NY


Re: Where is Djtoma? Ztomia? #general

Phil <philz@...>
 

Sounds to me like it's Zhitomer, which is (I've been told) about 60KM >from Kiev.

Phil

Mark_J._Schwartz@omb.eop.gov wrote:

Any help with figuring out where "Djtoma" is would be appreciated. My
great-aunt's naturalization papers list her birthplace and last residence
as "Djtoma, Russia". Her brother, my grandfather, listed his birthplace as
"Valene, Russia." I am assuming the "Valene" reference is to Vohlynia
Gubierna. The arriving ship manifest for my great-aunt and grandfather
list in cursive writing "Ztomia", "Zhtoria" or "Zhtovia". Any thoughts?

Thanks

Mark Schwartz
Searching: SCHWARTZ, SCHWARTZBLAT, LEFKOVICH, FRUMAN, CHELST, PERMUTH,
SOKOLOVITZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Where is Djtoma? Ztomia? #general

Phil <philz@...>
 

Sounds to me like it's Zhitomer, which is (I've been told) about 60KM >from Kiev.

Phil

Mark_J._Schwartz@omb.eop.gov wrote:

Any help with figuring out where "Djtoma" is would be appreciated. My
great-aunt's naturalization papers list her birthplace and last residence
as "Djtoma, Russia". Her brother, my grandfather, listed his birthplace as
"Valene, Russia." I am assuming the "Valene" reference is to Vohlynia
Gubierna. The arriving ship manifest for my great-aunt and grandfather
list in cursive writing "Ztomia", "Zhtoria" or "Zhtovia". Any thoughts?

Thanks

Mark Schwartz
Searching: SCHWARTZ, SCHWARTZBLAT, LEFKOVICH, FRUMAN, CHELST, PERMUTH,
SOKOLOVITZ


ViewMate Help #general

J Schamroth <scham@...>
 

I have a very early Polish document dated 1822 which needs translation.
Unfortunately, the original document is extremely feint and very difficult
to read, even after trying several methods at digital enhancement.

I would like help with 2 problems:

1) Can anyone advise me what is the best way to digitally enhance a very
feint document. Most image editing programs contain lots of options such
as sharpen, de-speckle, find edge, balance etc. What option or combination
of options would be the best choice for a black and white image?

2) Could someone out please try and translate the document for me. It can
be found on the ViewMate site
(http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/) in the "To View" section - as file -
VM043.

Many thanks,

Julian Schamroth (Jerusalem)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Help #general

J Schamroth <scham@...>
 

I have a very early Polish document dated 1822 which needs translation.
Unfortunately, the original document is extremely feint and very difficult
to read, even after trying several methods at digital enhancement.

I would like help with 2 problems:

1) Can anyone advise me what is the best way to digitally enhance a very
feint document. Most image editing programs contain lots of options such
as sharpen, de-speckle, find edge, balance etc. What option or combination
of options would be the best choice for a black and white image?

2) Could someone out please try and translate the document for me. It can
be found on the ViewMate site
(http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/) in the "To View" section - as file -
VM043.

Many thanks,

Julian Schamroth (Jerusalem)


Re: Turbov #ukraine

HOISTEM@...
 

Dear Paul,
I just read your reply regarding the town of Brusilov. My mother's
family comes >from there and they are TURBOVS. Who was this Mr. TURBOV
you speak of in your e-mail? I know my Mom has cousins in California.
This is wonderful someone else knows of this town, my cousin and I have
been researching for 5 years and haven't uncovered anything we didn't
already know.
My Great Grandparents were Mordaci and Pesel TURBOVSKY, changed to TURBOV
when they arrived in the US, they came here with seven out of nine
children. The two oldest girls were already married and had children.
We think they arrived here around 1908, my Grandmother Mary TURBOV was
around 8 or 9 years old when they arrived here, so she thought. Any other
info would be greatly appreciated. I look forward to hearing >from you.

Regards,
Donna Cerullo


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Turbov #ukraine

HOISTEM@...
 

Dear Paul,
I just read your reply regarding the town of Brusilov. My mother's
family comes >from there and they are TURBOVS. Who was this Mr. TURBOV
you speak of in your e-mail? I know my Mom has cousins in California.
This is wonderful someone else knows of this town, my cousin and I have
been researching for 5 years and haven't uncovered anything we didn't
already know.
My Great Grandparents were Mordaci and Pesel TURBOVSKY, changed to TURBOV
when they arrived in the US, they came here with seven out of nine
children. The two oldest girls were already married and had children.
We think they arrived here around 1908, my Grandmother Mary TURBOV was
around 8 or 9 years old when they arrived here, so she thought. Any other
info would be greatly appreciated. I look forward to hearing >from you.

Regards,
Donna Cerullo


Liverpool #general

RUP29@...
 

I have found a great new web site for anyone with family >from Liverpool.I
have found where my grandfather,greatgrandmother,and her parents are buried
in one hit.
from Valerie Gold
RUP29@aol.com
U.K
Levy
Eddlestone


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Liverpool #general

RUP29@...
 

I have found a great new web site for anyone with family >from Liverpool.I
have found where my grandfather,greatgrandmother,and her parents are buried
in one hit.
from Valerie Gold
RUP29@aol.com
U.K
Levy
Eddlestone


Re: Henry CERF, births in Berlin,, c1758 #general

Vicky Ferraresi <vickyfer@...>
 

What are the Bevis Mark Records for London?

P.S. You should probably post this query to GerSIG also.

Vicky Furstenberg Ferraresi
Belmont, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Henry CERF, births in Berlin,, c1758 #general

Vicky Ferraresi <vickyfer@...>
 

What are the Bevis Mark Records for London?

P.S. You should probably post this query to GerSIG also.

Vicky Furstenberg Ferraresi
Belmont, CA


Re: The name Ida #general

Myra S. Davis <myrabokpg@...>
 

Hello everyone,
I read about the name of Ida >from Ida Selavan Schwarcz who said her
Hebrew name was Haya. I sent a copy of her message to my cousin whose
mother, my aunt, was named Ida and then changed it to Idell.
He wrote me back that it was interesting however his mother's name was
Chicki. He was not sure if that was spelled correctly however that is
how it sounded. Has anyone ever heard of a Hebrew name sounding like
Chicki? And giving the girl the name of Ida?
Thanks to all.
Myra

Myra Davis, Tucson, AZ
myrabokpg@juno.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The name Ida #general

Myra S. Davis <myrabokpg@...>
 

Hello everyone,
I read about the name of Ida >from Ida Selavan Schwarcz who said her
Hebrew name was Haya. I sent a copy of her message to my cousin whose
mother, my aunt, was named Ida and then changed it to Idell.
He wrote me back that it was interesting however his mother's name was
Chicki. He was not sure if that was spelled correctly however that is
how it sounded. Has anyone ever heard of a Hebrew name sounding like
Chicki? And giving the girl the name of Ida?
Thanks to all.
Myra

Myra Davis, Tucson, AZ
myrabokpg@juno.com


Re: Shileyskoy Msoshchanskog #ukraine

MarkGrekin@...
 

In a message dated 11/8/0 8:27:11 PM, msmetters@ncweb.com writes:

<< Shileyskoy Msoshchanskog>>

Hi Mitzi,
In the old Russian documents the name of a person was usually followed by
what status he/she had and in what place that status was given. One of the
statuses was "meshchanin" and such a person >from Kiev would be designated as
"Kievskii meshchanin". In your case it may be Shileyskii meshchanin.

Mark


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Shileyskoy Msoshchanskog #ukraine

MarkGrekin@...
 

In a message dated 11/8/0 8:27:11 PM, msmetters@ncweb.com writes:

<< Shileyskoy Msoshchanskog>>

Hi Mitzi,
In the old Russian documents the name of a person was usually followed by
what status he/she had and in what place that status was given. One of the
statuses was "meshchanin" and such a person >from Kiev would be designated as
"Kievskii meshchanin". In your case it may be Shileyskii meshchanin.

Mark


The name Batya/Bithiah #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Dear JGenners,

In my comment on the name Batya, I stated that the name Bithia for the
daughter of the Pharaoh of the Exodus does not appear "in the Bible" --
though it does appear later in the rabbinic oral tradition. In context,
of course, I meant that it does not appear in the Bible's version of the
Exodus. However, Leslie Reich has kindly pointed out to me that a
character identified as "Bithiah daughter of Pharaoh, whom Mered married"
appears in I Chronicles 4:18 (She appears in a genealogy unrelated to
the Exodus story; and in any case the daughter of the Pharaoh of the
Exodus, according to rabbinic tradition, became the wife not of Mered but
of Caleb.)

The Bithiah of Chronicles, then, was the daughter of a different Pharaoh --
"Pharaoh" being a title and not a proper name. (Solomon, likewise, is
said in I kings 3:1 to have married "the daughter of Pharaoh" -- again,
this was clearly not the Pharaoh of the Exodus story!) But even though the
Bithiah in Chronicles is not identifiable with the Pharaoh's daughter who
raised Moses , the fact that she bore this name may well be the reason why
rabbinic tradition (in Lev. Rabbah and elsewhere) assigns the same name to
the one who adopted Moses.

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: Given name of Label/Labe #ukraine

JReing2528@...
 

I believe the name Label/Labe is a variant of the Yiddish name Lieb,
diminutive "el", meaning "heart" or "love". My grandfather, named Lieb
MARIPOLSKY (>from Zwenigrad) became Louis at Ellis Island in 1910. My
11 year old grandson has as his "Jewish Name" >from his Bris Milla, the
name, doubled, in memory of his mother's grandfather, >from L'vov,"Label
Label" with English name of Lowell, so you see the name is still quite
current.

Estelle Reingold