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Re: mandate era death certificates in Israel #ukraine

Raanan S Isseroff <raanan1@...>
 

BS"D

Steve,
If you know where your grandparents are buried, perhaps you could go to
the Chevra Kadisha for that section (>from that time) and get the records?
Raanan

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 17:54:18 +0200 "Bronstein Family"
<sygaa@netvision.net.il> writes:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please visit the Ukraine SIG web site
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/>
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Dear Fellow Ukraine SIG Researchers,

One must remember that documents that are matters of public record
in the
US (& perhaps other countries) are not matters of public record here
in
Israel. One correction in Steve Rivkin's posting is that it is the
Ministry of the Interior that issues the Death Certificates. The
rabbinate has nothing to do with them. It is marriage licenses that
they
are responsible for....
I, too,
have applied for my great-grandmother's Death Certificate and spoke
with
people at the Ministry of Interior. I was told that the original
document
is never copied but the information that it contains is copied and
sent to
the family member who requests it. If you are not a family member,
you
need a power of attorney >from the family member to apply for it.
Shalom Bronstein, Jerusalem
Original Message
From: SRivkin742@aol.com
Subject: [ukraine] mandate era death certificates in Israel

Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem and found a
solution.

Both my great great grandparents died in Israel in 1924 and the
other in
1925. Its my understanding that these mandate era death certificates
were
in English. Under the British the only death certificate copy I can
get
from Israel is an <extract> >from the Ministry of Religious Affairs
who
issues such certificates. I believe this might be all they have
access to -
but one Rabbi said by writing he was able to get a small bit of
additional
info. They issue these certificates in Hebrew.

I want a photocopy of the orginal certificate which 1] is in English
and
2] it is said they contain additional info often such as a]last
address
and b] perhaps names of parents.

Shalom,
Steve Rivkin


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: mandate era death certificates in Israel #ukraine

Raanan S Isseroff <raanan1@...>
 

BS"D

Steve,
If you know where your grandparents are buried, perhaps you could go to
the Chevra Kadisha for that section (>from that time) and get the records?
Raanan

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 17:54:18 +0200 "Bronstein Family"
<sygaa@netvision.net.il> writes:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please visit the Ukraine SIG web site
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dear Fellow Ukraine SIG Researchers,

One must remember that documents that are matters of public record
in the
US (& perhaps other countries) are not matters of public record here
in
Israel. One correction in Steve Rivkin's posting is that it is the
Ministry of the Interior that issues the Death Certificates. The
rabbinate has nothing to do with them. It is marriage licenses that
they
are responsible for....
I, too,
have applied for my great-grandmother's Death Certificate and spoke
with
people at the Ministry of Interior. I was told that the original
document
is never copied but the information that it contains is copied and
sent to
the family member who requests it. If you are not a family member,
you
need a power of attorney >from the family member to apply for it.
Shalom Bronstein, Jerusalem
Original Message
From: SRivkin742@aol.com
Subject: [ukraine] mandate era death certificates in Israel

Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem and found a
solution.

Both my great great grandparents died in Israel in 1924 and the
other in
1925. Its my understanding that these mandate era death certificates
were
in English. Under the British the only death certificate copy I can
get
from Israel is an <extract> >from the Ministry of Religious Affairs
who
issues such certificates. I believe this might be all they have
access to -
but one Rabbi said by writing he was able to get a small bit of
additional
info. They issue these certificates in Hebrew.

I want a photocopy of the orginal certificate which 1] is in English
and
2] it is said they contain additional info often such as a]last
address
and b] perhaps names of parents.

Shalom,
Steve Rivkin


Israilovka #ukraine

Mario Jeifetz <mjeifetz@...>
 

Hi
I'm searching for my ancestors born in Israilovka. I have found this shtetl
in the M. Atlas Encarta, 48dg 32' NO 27dg 44'E, but I haven't found it at
any map nor town list at Jewishgen. It not appears into the Indexuke nor the
Shtetlseeker. Several families having their roots in Israilovka named it
also as Yazer, that I could not found too.

Anybody knows in which Russian Empire Gubernia that shtetl was? It is abt.
98 Km SO >from Vinnytsya, close (10 km to North) of Mohyliv-Podols'kyy and
the Moldavian border.
It corresponds at this time to Vinnyts'ka Oblast.

Mario Jeifetz
Moises Ville
Argentina


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Israilovka #ukraine

Mario Jeifetz <mjeifetz@...>
 

Hi
I'm searching for my ancestors born in Israilovka. I have found this shtetl
in the M. Atlas Encarta, 48dg 32' NO 27dg 44'E, but I haven't found it at
any map nor town list at Jewishgen. It not appears into the Indexuke nor the
Shtetlseeker. Several families having their roots in Israilovka named it
also as Yazer, that I could not found too.

Anybody knows in which Russian Empire Gubernia that shtetl was? It is abt.
98 Km SO >from Vinnytsya, close (10 km to North) of Mohyliv-Podols'kyy and
the Moldavian border.
It corresponds at this time to Vinnyts'ka Oblast.

Mario Jeifetz
Moises Ville
Argentina


COGAN #general

MERLE KUCAN <BUTCHKUCAN@...>
 

Looking for COGAN family name >from Germany, Croatia,,,,thanks

Merle Kucan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen COGAN #general

MERLE KUCAN <BUTCHKUCAN@...>
 

Looking for COGAN family name >from Germany, Croatia,,,,thanks

Merle Kucan


Re: Searching: HYMAN #general

news@...
 

Parents: Philip (born 1849) & Rebecca HYMAN (born 1858)
Children:
Abraham Hyman (born 1875 in England)
Yetta (or Hattie) Hyman (born 1878 in Leeds)
Mary Hyman (born 1879 in Leeds)
Bessie Hyman (born 1881 in England)
Louis Hyman (born 1884 in England)
Rose Hyman (born 1887 in New York)
Jacob Hyman (born 1889 in New York)
Moses Hyman (born 1891 in New York)
Max Hyman (born 1893 in New York)

This lot appear in the UK 1881 census:

Dwelling:8 Saint St
Census Place: Leeds, York, England Source: FHL Film 1342084 PRO Ref
RG11 Piece 4517 Folio 76 Page 35
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Phillip HYMAN M 35 M Poland
Rel: Head
Occ: Glazier
Rebecca HYMAN M 25 F Poland
Rel: Wife
Isaac HYMAN 5 M Leeds, York, England
Rel: Son
Hetty HYMAN 4 F Leeds, York, England
Rel: Daug
Mary HYMAN 1 F Leeds, York, England
Rel: Daug
Harris JACOB U 21 M Poland
Rel: Visitor
Occ: Tailor

Amanda Jones


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching: HYMAN #general

news@...
 

Parents: Philip (born 1849) & Rebecca HYMAN (born 1858)
Children:
Abraham Hyman (born 1875 in England)
Yetta (or Hattie) Hyman (born 1878 in Leeds)
Mary Hyman (born 1879 in Leeds)
Bessie Hyman (born 1881 in England)
Louis Hyman (born 1884 in England)
Rose Hyman (born 1887 in New York)
Jacob Hyman (born 1889 in New York)
Moses Hyman (born 1891 in New York)
Max Hyman (born 1893 in New York)

This lot appear in the UK 1881 census:

Dwelling:8 Saint St
Census Place: Leeds, York, England Source: FHL Film 1342084 PRO Ref
RG11 Piece 4517 Folio 76 Page 35
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Phillip HYMAN M 35 M Poland
Rel: Head
Occ: Glazier
Rebecca HYMAN M 25 F Poland
Rel: Wife
Isaac HYMAN 5 M Leeds, York, England
Rel: Son
Hetty HYMAN 4 F Leeds, York, England
Rel: Daug
Mary HYMAN 1 F Leeds, York, England
Rel: Daug
Harris JACOB U 21 M Poland
Rel: Visitor
Occ: Tailor

Amanda Jones


Re: London - Looking for burial place. Where to start? #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Hi,

How can I locate my G-G-Grandfather's burial site ?. He died in London in
1924, but I don't have any idea where exactly did he lived.

I've got his Death Certificate >from the General Register Office. The
registration District was the "Mile End Old Town, South Western, County of
London". The informant was registered as "Deputy Coroner for the Eastern
District of London". These are the only clues I have about his residence...
Yaacov Slizak
Mile End was an area of the East End of London heavily populated by Jews
before WW2. Unfortunately some of the cemeteries on that side of London,
which were probably still used by Jews dying in the 1920s, were either
bombed during the war or have fallen into disrepair so that the stones are
rarely legible today even if you can accessthem. But some are still
extant, so you might get lucky, especially if you can pinpoint which
synagogue he belonged to, which in turn might enable you to pinpoint which
cemetery he would most likely have been buried in. Try writing to Cyril
Fox of JGSGB (the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain) who is
very expert in these matters. (I can give you his e-mail if you would like
to do this).

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: London - Looking for burial place. Where to start? #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Hi,

How can I locate my G-G-Grandfather's burial site ?. He died in London in
1924, but I don't have any idea where exactly did he lived.

I've got his Death Certificate >from the General Register Office. The
registration District was the "Mile End Old Town, South Western, County of
London". The informant was registered as "Deputy Coroner for the Eastern
District of London". These are the only clues I have about his residence...
Yaacov Slizak
Mile End was an area of the East End of London heavily populated by Jews
before WW2. Unfortunately some of the cemeteries on that side of London,
which were probably still used by Jews dying in the 1920s, were either
bombed during the war or have fallen into disrepair so that the stones are
rarely legible today even if you can accessthem. But some are still
extant, so you might get lucky, especially if you can pinpoint which
synagogue he belonged to, which in turn might enable you to pinpoint which
cemetery he would most likely have been buried in. Try writing to Cyril
Fox of JGSGB (the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain) who is
very expert in these matters. (I can give you his e-mail if you would like
to do this).

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: Cypress Hills Cemetery #usa

Hopina@...
 

There are actually two Cypress Hills cemeteries. New Cypress Hills and
Cypress Hills. They are located adjacent to one another on the
Brooklyn/Queens border. Check to see which one responded to you and get
in touch with the other one. Perhaps he is buried there.

Hope Langner
Albany, NY
Searching YANOWSKI, BUCHHOLZ, PREMINGER, KAWKIEWICZ

Barbara Meyers <babycat3@aol.com> (BABYCAT3)wrote:

<< My uncle's death certificate >from 1922 lists the cemetery as Cypress Hills,
Long Island, NY. The only one I located is in Brooklyn which is one of the
5 boroughs and I presume, not actually Long Island. I wrote to the one in
Brooklyn and they have no record of his burial there. Would anyone know if
there is another Cypress Hills Cemetery out on Long Island? If not, how
can I pursue with the one in Brooklyn if they may not be thoroughly
searching their records?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Cypress Hills Cemetery #general

Hopina@...
 

There are actually two Cypress Hills cemeteries. New Cypress Hills and
Cypress Hills. They are located adjacent to one another on the
Brooklyn/Queens border. Check to see which one responded to you and get
in touch with the other one. Perhaps he is buried there.

Hope Langner
Albany, NY
Searching YANOWSKI, BUCHHOLZ, PREMINGER, KAWKIEWICZ

Barbara Meyers <babycat3@aol.com> (BABYCAT3)wrote:

<< My uncle's death certificate >from 1922 lists the cemetery as Cypress Hills,
Long Island, NY. The only one I located is in Brooklyn which is one of the
5 boroughs and I presume, not actually Long Island. I wrote to the one in
Brooklyn and they have no record of his burial there. Would anyone know if
there is another Cypress Hills Cemetery out on Long Island? If not, how
can I pursue with the one in Brooklyn if they may not be thoroughly
searching their records?


Ungarn #general

Alter & Dina Ophir <alterdina@...>
 

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il> wrote

A cousin just sent me a birth certificate wherein the father stated that
he was born in "Ungarn". Was there a place in Hungary called Ungarn, or is
that the way a Hungarian would pronounce Hungary in New York City in the
late 1800's? Or what ideas do you have that could help? [ I am a total
twit when it comes to Hungary!]
Dear Martha,
Ungarn is Hungary in Yidish and in German. In Jerusalem there are the Batei
Ungarn, founded and settled by Jews >from Hungary in the 19th crntury.
Alter Ophir


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ungarn #general

Alter & Dina Ophir <alterdina@...>
 

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il> wrote

A cousin just sent me a birth certificate wherein the father stated that
he was born in "Ungarn". Was there a place in Hungary called Ungarn, or is
that the way a Hungarian would pronounce Hungary in New York City in the
late 1800's? Or what ideas do you have that could help? [ I am a total
twit when it comes to Hungary!]
Dear Martha,
Ungarn is Hungary in Yidish and in German. In Jerusalem there are the Batei
Ungarn, founded and settled by Jews >from Hungary in the 19th crntury.
Alter Ophir


Philip SOLOMON-Paterson, New Jersey #general

BABYCAT3 <babycat3@...>
 

Philip SOLOMON, aged 17, in 1922, was on a sled with my Uncle Julius KLEIN
when they struck a tree. The incident took place on Temple Street in
Paterson, New Jersey and I am wondering if anyone out there might be related
to Philip. He sustained minor injuries, my Uncle died the next morning.
Sound familiar? I just received the newspaper articles of the incident.
Barbara Klein Meyers
babycat3@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Philip SOLOMON-Paterson, New Jersey #general

BABYCAT3 <babycat3@...>
 

Philip SOLOMON, aged 17, in 1922, was on a sled with my Uncle Julius KLEIN
when they struck a tree. The incident took place on Temple Street in
Paterson, New Jersey and I am wondering if anyone out there might be related
to Philip. He sustained minor injuries, my Uncle died the next morning.
Sound familiar? I just received the newspaper articles of the incident.
Barbara Klein Meyers
babycat3@aol.com


Donn/Buchman/Kushner #ukraine

David Donn <ddonn@...>
 

I am writing >from Seaside, OR in the United States.

I will repost along with this the elements that I have uncovered to date.

I have very little information at this time. I am a second generation
Jewish-American. My father is attempting to provide what fragments he can.
However, He is suffering some memory loss >from a stroke a few years ago and
is about to turn 70 years.

So this is what I do know about my Donn/Buchman family to date.

My father is Albert Irwin Donn born 12/15/1930. His father was Meyer Israel
Donn born March 10, 1898 in Kovno died July 13, 1973 in E. Hartford
Connecticut. He emigrated to the US via New York abt. 1905. Meyer married
Celia Buchman born April 10. 1905 in Gomel, Belarus. She emigrated to the
US via New York abt 1905 in the company of her father Aaron Buchman born
November 2, 1883 in Siberia (city unknown) Died September 1971 in W.
Hartford Connecticut. His wife was Anna (maiden name unkown) she died abt.
1925 in the United States.

I know very little about my Kushner roots at this time. I have been told
that my gf was born in/around Austria. His name was Morice David Kushner
and he died and was interned in Rhode Island. I don't know that names of
his parents or siblings. I do know that there were a number of prominent
"Kushner's" in the family (ie. Doctors, Lawyers etc.)

He served a executive officer for an east coast company (possibly regional
president for the Mills Novelty Co. abt. 1930's till his death abt. 1945).
I have no other information re. city of birth or place/date of emigration.
He was married to Gladys (maiden name unknown).

Any assistance is most appreciated. I am hoping to reconstruct family
history for the benefit of children and grandchildren and well as for my
father and myself.

I am on JGFF. I have searched the Hamburg site to no avail. and searches of
surnmaes online have produced no result to date. I have been struggling
with much of this for a couple of years now.

I have searched the Social Security Death Index and gleaned some minimal
help. And yes I am preparing to contact the Social Security Office in an
effort to obtain a copy of my mothers original application to assertain my
maternal gm's maiden name.

I know that the Kushner's I am seeking are buried in Cranston (Jewish
Cemetary) but I don't know which one ... Haven't been there since I was much
younger.

And the Donn branch of the family is buried in Hartford, CT at the Waliska
(sp) Society Cemetary. I am requesting help with that research as well.

Thanks for all the help...


David Donn
Researching:
Donn (>from Ukraine and Lithuania) Buchman (Belarus), Kushner (from
Austria, Siberia, Ukraine)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Donn/Buchman/Kushner #ukraine

David Donn <ddonn@...>
 

I am writing >from Seaside, OR in the United States.

I will repost along with this the elements that I have uncovered to date.

I have very little information at this time. I am a second generation
Jewish-American. My father is attempting to provide what fragments he can.
However, He is suffering some memory loss >from a stroke a few years ago and
is about to turn 70 years.

So this is what I do know about my Donn/Buchman family to date.

My father is Albert Irwin Donn born 12/15/1930. His father was Meyer Israel
Donn born March 10, 1898 in Kovno died July 13, 1973 in E. Hartford
Connecticut. He emigrated to the US via New York abt. 1905. Meyer married
Celia Buchman born April 10. 1905 in Gomel, Belarus. She emigrated to the
US via New York abt 1905 in the company of her father Aaron Buchman born
November 2, 1883 in Siberia (city unknown) Died September 1971 in W.
Hartford Connecticut. His wife was Anna (maiden name unkown) she died abt.
1925 in the United States.

I know very little about my Kushner roots at this time. I have been told
that my gf was born in/around Austria. His name was Morice David Kushner
and he died and was interned in Rhode Island. I don't know that names of
his parents or siblings. I do know that there were a number of prominent
"Kushner's" in the family (ie. Doctors, Lawyers etc.)

He served a executive officer for an east coast company (possibly regional
president for the Mills Novelty Co. abt. 1930's till his death abt. 1945).
I have no other information re. city of birth or place/date of emigration.
He was married to Gladys (maiden name unknown).

Any assistance is most appreciated. I am hoping to reconstruct family
history for the benefit of children and grandchildren and well as for my
father and myself.

I am on JGFF. I have searched the Hamburg site to no avail. and searches of
surnmaes online have produced no result to date. I have been struggling
with much of this for a couple of years now.

I have searched the Social Security Death Index and gleaned some minimal
help. And yes I am preparing to contact the Social Security Office in an
effort to obtain a copy of my mothers original application to assertain my
maternal gm's maiden name.

I know that the Kushner's I am seeking are buried in Cranston (Jewish
Cemetary) but I don't know which one ... Haven't been there since I was much
younger.

And the Donn branch of the family is buried in Hartford, CT at the Waliska
(sp) Society Cemetary. I am requesting help with that research as well.

Thanks for all the help...


David Donn
Researching:
Donn (>from Ukraine and Lithuania) Buchman (Belarus), Kushner (from
Austria, Siberia, Ukraine)


Malin, Sarnovitchi, Ksaveriv the SCHECTMAN/RICH Family #ukraine

Arnie Levine <arnie@...>
 

TYA:
I am attempting to find information on my grandmothers family and the area's
which they lived, they are the SCHECTMAN family (SCHECKHTMAN, SHEKHTMAN,
SHECHTMAN, SHECKMAN) and changed their name to RICH when they came to North
America. The family is >from the UKRAINE (then Russia) >from Sarnovitchi
(Sarnovichi, Korostensky Raion, Zhitomir Oblast), >from Ksaverov (Ksaveriv,
Malinsky Raion,Zhitomir Oblast) and >from Malin (Malyn, Malinsky Raion,
Zhitomir Oblast). Any information about either the family or towns would be
appreciated as I have little information before they came to North America
(I have the map co-ordinates of each area, I am looking for any other type
of information). If any one has Istoreiya Mist i Sil Ukrainskoi RSR copies
of the write ups of the aforementioned towns would be appreciated,
especially if they are translated.

Any information would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Arnie Levine
Chicago, Illinois USA
arnie@gowebway.com

http://home.gowebway.com/~arnie/
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/l/e/v/Arnold-H-Levine/index.html

ALSO researching the CZUSIK (changed name to SHERMAN) family >from Narodichi
and Chopovichi (Volhynia Gubernia and Zhitomirskaya Oblast); the LASKOWITZ
(changed name to LASKO or LASCOE) family >from Poland: towns of Wysokie
Mazowieckie in Lomza Gubernia and also Bialystock vicinity). Settled in
Chicago but have spread (those located) throughout the USA, Canada, Israel
and Australia.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Malin, Sarnovitchi, Ksaveriv the SCHECTMAN/RICH Family #ukraine

Arnie Levine <arnie@...>
 

TYA:
I am attempting to find information on my grandmothers family and the area's
which they lived, they are the SCHECTMAN family (SCHECKHTMAN, SHEKHTMAN,
SHECHTMAN, SHECKMAN) and changed their name to RICH when they came to North
America. The family is >from the UKRAINE (then Russia) >from Sarnovitchi
(Sarnovichi, Korostensky Raion, Zhitomir Oblast), >from Ksaverov (Ksaveriv,
Malinsky Raion,Zhitomir Oblast) and >from Malin (Malyn, Malinsky Raion,
Zhitomir Oblast). Any information about either the family or towns would be
appreciated as I have little information before they came to North America
(I have the map co-ordinates of each area, I am looking for any other type
of information). If any one has Istoreiya Mist i Sil Ukrainskoi RSR copies
of the write ups of the aforementioned towns would be appreciated,
especially if they are translated.

Any information would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Arnie Levine
Chicago, Illinois USA
arnie@gowebway.com

http://home.gowebway.com/~arnie/
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/l/e/v/Arnold-H-Levine/index.html

ALSO researching the CZUSIK (changed name to SHERMAN) family >from Narodichi
and Chopovichi (Volhynia Gubernia and Zhitomirskaya Oblast); the LASKOWITZ
(changed name to LASKO or LASCOE) family >from Poland: towns of Wysokie
Mazowieckie in Lomza Gubernia and also Bialystock vicinity). Settled in
Chicago but have spread (those located) throughout the USA, Canada, Israel
and Australia.