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The given name Leyb #general

Udi Cain
 

Hi Tom,

Leyb is Yiddish for Hebrew Arye (others: Leon, Lion, Lew, Lev). I do not
aware of the direct connection to Yehuda, but this used to be a common
combination in the double name: LeybYuda.
Regards and Happy Chanukah Greetings

Alex

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB
Dear A. & T.

The connection is in Jacob's bless to his son: "Gur Arie Yehuda.." =Yehuda
is a lion cub.
I suppose that it had some thing to do with being brave.
BUT, also Moshe is blessing the tribes before his death, this time, Dan
gets the reference as a Lion cub.
So the bible is full of surprises.

Regards. Udi.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The given name Leyb #general

Udi Cain
 

Hi Tom,

Leyb is Yiddish for Hebrew Arye (others: Leon, Lion, Lew, Lev). I do not
aware of the direct connection to Yehuda, but this used to be a common
combination in the double name: LeybYuda.
Regards and Happy Chanukah Greetings

Alex

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB
Dear A. & T.

The connection is in Jacob's bless to his son: "Gur Arie Yehuda.." =Yehuda
is a lion cub.
I suppose that it had some thing to do with being brave.
BUT, also Moshe is blessing the tribes before his death, this time, Dan
gets the reference as a Lion cub.
So the bible is full of surprises.

Regards. Udi.


Re: Prince #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

There is a well known rabbinic family named Prinz. Why look further?
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: Sally Bruckheimer [mailto:sallybru@pce.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 11:49 PM
To: JewishGen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: Prince

Stephen Shamroth wrote:
In researching my maternal line I have been examining the LDS records from
Jaroslaw for the surname Prince. Although the records are in Cyrillic,it
is clear that nothing resembling "Prince" can be found. Would Prince be an
Anglicized version of a Polish Name? Any help would be appreciated.


If you can read the Cyrillic letters (P is the Greek letter pi >from
geometry, R looks like P because it is rho in Greek, etc.) and have
checked lots of variant spellings (my Mother knew a man named Prinz which
would be more like the correct spelling-maybe even Princ in Polish), then
try Nasi-which is Hebrew similar in meaning to Prince.

Are the records available >from a time period when you are pretty sure
your family was there? Lots of people moved around, voluntarily or not.

Of course, the name could have been shortened and changed >from something
else, or they could have been >from somewhere near Jaroslaw, or both.
Have you tried JRI-PP and the Family Finder?

Keep trying, widen the search any way you can. Check more sources here
in the US to find if there might be a different town mentioned. I was
told my grandfather was >from Berdichev, recently I found out his brother
was supposed to have been born in Odessa which is no where near
Berdichev-I don't know which, if either, is a better place to look.

Never give up,

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY
mailto:sallybru@pce.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Prince #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

There is a well known rabbinic family named Prinz. Why look further?
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: Sally Bruckheimer [mailto:sallybru@pce.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 11:49 PM
To: JewishGen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: Prince

Stephen Shamroth wrote:
In researching my maternal line I have been examining the LDS records from
Jaroslaw for the surname Prince. Although the records are in Cyrillic,it
is clear that nothing resembling "Prince" can be found. Would Prince be an
Anglicized version of a Polish Name? Any help would be appreciated.


If you can read the Cyrillic letters (P is the Greek letter pi >from
geometry, R looks like P because it is rho in Greek, etc.) and have
checked lots of variant spellings (my Mother knew a man named Prinz which
would be more like the correct spelling-maybe even Princ in Polish), then
try Nasi-which is Hebrew similar in meaning to Prince.

Are the records available >from a time period when you are pretty sure
your family was there? Lots of people moved around, voluntarily or not.

Of course, the name could have been shortened and changed >from something
else, or they could have been >from somewhere near Jaroslaw, or both.
Have you tried JRI-PP and the Family Finder?

Keep trying, widen the search any way you can. Check more sources here
in the US to find if there might be a different town mentioned. I was
told my grandfather was >from Berdichev, recently I found out his brother
was supposed to have been born in Odessa which is no where near
Berdichev-I don't know which, if either, is a better place to look.

Never give up,

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY
mailto:sallybru@pce.net


Re: The given name Leyb #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

What kind of name is Leyb and how it relates to Yehuda? Is Leyb and
Lob the same name, just different spellings?
Many thanks
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>

Yes, this matter has been discussed more than once before on this list (see
archives!)

Leyb, Leib, Loeb, Lev, are all variant spellings of the the German/Yiddish
word Loewe meaning Lion.
Men with the name Judah are often called Yehudah Aryeh or Yehudah Lev --
aryeh is Hebrew for lion and Lev, Leib, etc. is Yiddish for lion. The
surnames Loewe, Lowy, etc. are also variants.

The connection between the lion and Yehuda is that the lion is the symbol
of the tribe of Judah. (It is general knowledge -- at least to my
generation and earlier -- that the late Ethiopian emperor Haile Selassie
and his predecessors for 2,000 years were called inter alia "The Lion of
Judah" because of the tradition that he was descended >from the Queen of
Sheba's visit to King Solomon in I Kings 10!)

The reason the lion became the symbol for Judah is a verse in the Torah
(Gen: 49:9) which is part of the blessing Jacob gives his sons on his death
bed. Concerning his fourth son Judah Gen 49:9 says <gur aryeh Yehudah>
meaning "Judah is a lion's cub." Judah ends up being the most important
of Jacob's sons because the Davidic dynasty (Beth-David) was descended from
Judah according to the biblical genealogy. (>from the viewpoint of modern
scholarship, the biblical blessing was written with hindsight centuries,
during the Davidic dynasty.)

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The given name Leyb #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

What kind of name is Leyb and how it relates to Yehuda? Is Leyb and
Lob the same name, just different spellings?
Many thanks
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>

Yes, this matter has been discussed more than once before on this list (see
archives!)

Leyb, Leib, Loeb, Lev, are all variant spellings of the the German/Yiddish
word Loewe meaning Lion.
Men with the name Judah are often called Yehudah Aryeh or Yehudah Lev --
aryeh is Hebrew for lion and Lev, Leib, etc. is Yiddish for lion. The
surnames Loewe, Lowy, etc. are also variants.

The connection between the lion and Yehuda is that the lion is the symbol
of the tribe of Judah. (It is general knowledge -- at least to my
generation and earlier -- that the late Ethiopian emperor Haile Selassie
and his predecessors for 2,000 years were called inter alia "The Lion of
Judah" because of the tradition that he was descended >from the Queen of
Sheba's visit to King Solomon in I Kings 10!)

The reason the lion became the symbol for Judah is a verse in the Torah
(Gen: 49:9) which is part of the blessing Jacob gives his sons on his death
bed. Concerning his fourth son Judah Gen 49:9 says <gur aryeh Yehudah>
meaning "Judah is a lion's cub." Judah ends up being the most important
of Jacob's sons because the Davidic dynasty (Beth-David) was descended from
Judah according to the biblical genealogy. (>from the viewpoint of modern
scholarship, the biblical blessing was written with hindsight centuries,
during the Davidic dynasty.)

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: certified genealogist #general

Eileen Polakoff ATT <eileenpolakoff@...>
 

Brett Lieberman asked about becoming certified... in order to learn more
about this go to the Board for Certification of Genealogists website at
www.bcgcertification.org to read the requirements for all of the various
certifications. There is also a group now affiliated with the Utah
Genealogical Association which was formerly affiliated with the Family
History Library which gives accreditation to genealogists. This is called
ICapGen (International Commission for the Accreditaton of Professional
Genealogists) and information can be found at www.infouga.org. Also check
the website of the Association of Professional Genealogists at
www.apgen.org for information about these programs and other professional
genealogical groups internationally.

And, yes, it does cost money. More importantly, it takes time and
dedication to scholarly standards.

Unfortunately, the Moderator note to information about this topic is a bit
dated. The basic information is correct but the addresses have some errors.

Brett wrote:
Can someone explain how one becomes a "Certified as a Genealogist"
or Historical Researcher? is there some test to pass?? Do you have to
belong to a Major Group, Give your time?
Can some one help me with this, my wife thinks I should get a degree in it?
Does it cost money?
Brett Lieberman


Eileen Polakoff
Professional Genealogist
Trustee, Association of Professional Genealogists
eileenpolakoff@avotaynu.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: certified genealogist #general

Eileen Polakoff ATT <eileenpolakoff@...>
 

Brett Lieberman asked about becoming certified... in order to learn more
about this go to the Board for Certification of Genealogists website at
www.bcgcertification.org to read the requirements for all of the various
certifications. There is also a group now affiliated with the Utah
Genealogical Association which was formerly affiliated with the Family
History Library which gives accreditation to genealogists. This is called
ICapGen (International Commission for the Accreditaton of Professional
Genealogists) and information can be found at www.infouga.org. Also check
the website of the Association of Professional Genealogists at
www.apgen.org for information about these programs and other professional
genealogical groups internationally.

And, yes, it does cost money. More importantly, it takes time and
dedication to scholarly standards.

Unfortunately, the Moderator note to information about this topic is a bit
dated. The basic information is correct but the addresses have some errors.

Brett wrote:
Can someone explain how one becomes a "Certified as a Genealogist"
or Historical Researcher? is there some test to pass?? Do you have to
belong to a Major Group, Give your time?
Can some one help me with this, my wife thinks I should get a degree in it?
Does it cost money?
Brett Lieberman


Eileen Polakoff
Professional Genealogist
Trustee, Association of Professional Genealogists
eileenpolakoff@avotaynu.com


Re: Correction to previous message on WAGNERs old USA address #general

mleonards@...
 

In article <4.3.2.7.1.20001207064443.00a999a0@pop.chello.se>,
Susanna Vendel <susanna.vendel@chello.se> wrote:
Harry Wagner
Woodland ave
Burbank, California
You might try the following site:
http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi

It's an index of deaths in California between 1940 and 1997. In many
cases, the decedant's mother's maiden name is given, which may help you
determine which Harry Wagner is the right one. (It also notes the
state of birth; foreign births are indicated by "REST".)

Monica Leonards
Glenside, PA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Correction to previous message on WAGNERs old USA address #general

mleonards@...
 

In article <4.3.2.7.1.20001207064443.00a999a0@pop.chello.se>,
Susanna Vendel <susanna.vendel@chello.se> wrote:
Harry Wagner
Woodland ave
Burbank, California
You might try the following site:
http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi

It's an index of deaths in California between 1940 and 1997. In many
cases, the decedant's mother's maiden name is given, which may help you
determine which Harry Wagner is the right one. (It also notes the
state of birth; foreign births are indicated by "REST".)

Monica Leonards
Glenside, PA


HOFFMAN or HAUPTMANN, Poland to NY #general

Hafcjf@...
 

I'm hoping this will ring a bell with some genner out there. We have been
searching for some time for information about my great grandmother, Evelyn
Rebecca. We're trying to pin down her maiden name. She was >from Belchatov,
Poland. I've just come across some information. Her sister (possibly a
twin) visited the family in the 1920s. Her name was Mirel HOFFMAN. We're
not certain if HOFFMAN was her married name or her maiden name. The name
may have been HAUPTMANN back in Poland. She had a son named Gavriel (may
have been Americanized to Gabriel) who was tall and handsome and worked in
a handbag factory. Mirel left NY and returned to Poland, but her son is
believed to have remained here.

I know it's not much, but if you have a Mirel or a Gabriel in your HOFFMAN
family, I'd like to hear >from you.

Cathy J. Flamholtz
Brent, AL
hafcjf@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen HOFFMAN or HAUPTMANN, Poland to NY #general

Hafcjf@...
 

I'm hoping this will ring a bell with some genner out there. We have been
searching for some time for information about my great grandmother, Evelyn
Rebecca. We're trying to pin down her maiden name. She was >from Belchatov,
Poland. I've just come across some information. Her sister (possibly a
twin) visited the family in the 1920s. Her name was Mirel HOFFMAN. We're
not certain if HOFFMAN was her married name or her maiden name. The name
may have been HAUPTMANN back in Poland. She had a son named Gavriel (may
have been Americanized to Gabriel) who was tall and handsome and worked in
a handbag factory. Mirel left NY and returned to Poland, but her son is
believed to have remained here.

I know it's not much, but if you have a Mirel or a Gabriel in your HOFFMAN
family, I'd like to hear >from you.

Cathy J. Flamholtz
Brent, AL
hafcjf@aol.com


Beth El Synagogue, New Rochelle, NY; JACOBS #general

Hafcjf@...
 

Hi! I'm hoping some genner out there goes to this shul and can help me.

On one of my periodic internet searches, I discovered that there's a Bess
and Nathan P. Jacobs Library at Beth El Synagogue, in New Rochelle, NY. I
have been searching for quite some time for a Nathan and Bess Jacobs and
know that they lived in New Rochelle.

Nathan is the son of Zelig JACOBS and Golda FLAMHOLTZ. He began with a
store selling stockings, underwear and handbags, named Vantex Hosiery. This
was successful and he opened another store and made his brother David the
manager. Then, he set up a another store on Long Island which was run by
his brother Hymie. Nat then ventured into real estate, buying several
office buildings in Manhattan. He made a good deal of money so it's quite
likely that he would have had enough money to fund a library.

We have completely lost track of this branch of the family. If you go to
this shul, could you possibly ask and see if there's anything to be learned
about this JACOBS family? Or, could you direct me to someone that I could
contact (preferably through email).

Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Cathy J. Flamholtz
Brent, AL
hafcjf@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Beth El Synagogue, New Rochelle, NY; JACOBS #general

Hafcjf@...
 

Hi! I'm hoping some genner out there goes to this shul and can help me.

On one of my periodic internet searches, I discovered that there's a Bess
and Nathan P. Jacobs Library at Beth El Synagogue, in New Rochelle, NY. I
have been searching for quite some time for a Nathan and Bess Jacobs and
know that they lived in New Rochelle.

Nathan is the son of Zelig JACOBS and Golda FLAMHOLTZ. He began with a
store selling stockings, underwear and handbags, named Vantex Hosiery. This
was successful and he opened another store and made his brother David the
manager. Then, he set up a another store on Long Island which was run by
his brother Hymie. Nat then ventured into real estate, buying several
office buildings in Manhattan. He made a good deal of money so it's quite
likely that he would have had enough money to fund a library.

We have completely lost track of this branch of the family. If you go to
this shul, could you possibly ask and see if there's anything to be learned
about this JACOBS family? Or, could you direct me to someone that I could
contact (preferably through email).

Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Cathy J. Flamholtz
Brent, AL
hafcjf@aol.com


Beth El Synagogue, New Rochelle, NY; JACOBS #lodz #poland

Hafcjf@...
 

Hi! I'm hoping some genner out there goes to this shul and can help me.

On one of my periodic internet searches, I discovered that there's a Bess and
Nathan P. Jacobs Library at Beth El Synagogue, in New Rochelle, NY. I have
been searching for quite some time for a Nathan and Bess Jacobs and know that
they lived in New Rochelle.

Nathan is the son of Zelig JACOBS and Golda FLAMHOLTZ. He began with a store
selling stockings, underwear and handbags, named Vantex Hosiery. This was
successful and he opened another store and made his brother David the
manager. Then, he set up a another store on Long Island which was run by his
brother Hymie. Nat then ventured into real estate, buying several office
buildings in Manhattan. He made a good deal of money so it's quite likely
that he would have had enough money to fund a library.

We have completely lost track of this branch of the family. If you go to this
shul, could you possibly ask and see if there's anything to be learned about
this JACOBS family? Or, could you direct me to someone that I could contact
(preferably through email).

Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Cathy J. Flamholtz
Brent, AL
hafcjf@aol.com


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Beth El Synagogue, New Rochelle, NY; JACOBS #poland #lodz

Hafcjf@...
 

Hi! I'm hoping some genner out there goes to this shul and can help me.

On one of my periodic internet searches, I discovered that there's a Bess and
Nathan P. Jacobs Library at Beth El Synagogue, in New Rochelle, NY. I have
been searching for quite some time for a Nathan and Bess Jacobs and know that
they lived in New Rochelle.

Nathan is the son of Zelig JACOBS and Golda FLAMHOLTZ. He began with a store
selling stockings, underwear and handbags, named Vantex Hosiery. This was
successful and he opened another store and made his brother David the
manager. Then, he set up a another store on Long Island which was run by his
brother Hymie. Nat then ventured into real estate, buying several office
buildings in Manhattan. He made a good deal of money so it's quite likely
that he would have had enough money to fund a library.

We have completely lost track of this branch of the family. If you go to this
shul, could you possibly ask and see if there's anything to be learned about
this JACOBS family? Or, could you direct me to someone that I could contact
(preferably through email).

Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Cathy J. Flamholtz
Brent, AL
hafcjf@aol.com


HOFFMAN or HAUPTMANN; Belchatov to NY #lodz #poland

Hafcjf@...
 

I'm hoping this will ring a bell with some genner out there. We have been
searching for some time for information about my great grandmother, Evelyn
Rebecca. We're trying to pin down her maiden name. She was >from Belchatov,
Poland. I've just come across some information. Her sister (possibly a twin)
visited the family in the 1920s. Her name was Mirel HOFFMAN. We're not
certain if HOFFMAN was her married name or her maiden name. The name may have
been HAUPTMANN back in Poland. She had a son named Gavriel (may have been
Americanized to Gabriel) who was tall and handsome and worked in a handbag
factory. Mirel left NY and returned to Poland, but her son is believed to
have remained here.

I know it's not much, but if you have a Mirel or a Gabriel in your HOFFMAN
family, I'd like to hear >from you.

Cathy J. Flamholtz
Brent, AL
hafcjf@aol.com


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland HOFFMAN or HAUPTMANN; Belchatov to NY #lodz #poland

Hafcjf@...
 

I'm hoping this will ring a bell with some genner out there. We have been
searching for some time for information about my great grandmother, Evelyn
Rebecca. We're trying to pin down her maiden name. She was >from Belchatov,
Poland. I've just come across some information. Her sister (possibly a twin)
visited the family in the 1920s. Her name was Mirel HOFFMAN. We're not
certain if HOFFMAN was her married name or her maiden name. The name may have
been HAUPTMANN back in Poland. She had a son named Gavriel (may have been
Americanized to Gabriel) who was tall and handsome and worked in a handbag
factory. Mirel left NY and returned to Poland, but her son is believed to
have remained here.

I know it's not much, but if you have a Mirel or a Gabriel in your HOFFMAN
family, I'd like to hear >from you.

Cathy J. Flamholtz
Brent, AL
hafcjf@aol.com


The given name Leyb (Leib) #general

irvjs@...
 

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@uol.com.br> wrote
<<What kind of name is Leyb and how it relates to Yehuda? Is Leyb and
Lob the same name, just different spellings? >>

I have heard that Yehuda and Leib are kinui or go together.. But if that
were so, would a man named Leib call his son Judah? My mggf, Leib Speier
in 1872 wrote down a family history goingback to Joseph Plaut in
Neuenbrunslar (Hesse) in 1682. Included in this history is Leib' son, Juda
Speier-Holstein (1859-1938), my mgf.

By an odd coincidence, I have another ggf named Leib, the father of
Yakov-Meir Schiffres of Grodno, after whom I am named.

Irwin Jacob Schiffres
Rochester, NY
Searching HOLSTEIN or SPEIER-HOLSTEIN (Neuenbrunslar, Gensungen)
KAHN (Alsace, Belgium), SCHIFFRES/SHIFRES/SZYFRES (Grodno), HALPERN/GALPERN
(Grodno)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The given name Leyb (Leib) #general

irvjs@...
 

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@uol.com.br> wrote
<<What kind of name is Leyb and how it relates to Yehuda? Is Leyb and
Lob the same name, just different spellings? >>

I have heard that Yehuda and Leib are kinui or go together.. But if that
were so, would a man named Leib call his son Judah? My mggf, Leib Speier
in 1872 wrote down a family history goingback to Joseph Plaut in
Neuenbrunslar (Hesse) in 1682. Included in this history is Leib' son, Juda
Speier-Holstein (1859-1938), my mgf.

By an odd coincidence, I have another ggf named Leib, the father of
Yakov-Meir Schiffres of Grodno, after whom I am named.

Irwin Jacob Schiffres
Rochester, NY
Searching HOLSTEIN or SPEIER-HOLSTEIN (Neuenbrunslar, Gensungen)
KAHN (Alsace, Belgium), SCHIFFRES/SHIFRES/SZYFRES (Grodno), HALPERN/GALPERN
(Grodno)