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Origin of First name:Mentain, in E Prussia #general

Udi Cain
 

An elderly colleague of mine has an ancestor Mentain/Mantayn endelsohn
who lived in Schneidermuhl in E Prussia.

Q1. I have searched the archives and find no mention of the first name
Mentain. Can anybody provide any information about it. pls?
Q2. StetlSeeker does not have a Schneidermuhl listed although there are 3
references to this site, one of them suggesting it is now in Poznan
province. Stetlseeker now offers "Chendremal" as a town in Romania, 360Km
NW of Bucharest. Is this the former Schneidermuhl?

Vernon Kronenberg vkronenb@pcug.org.au
Dear Vernon et al.

Schneidemuhl is today Pila, North of Poznan (Possen) and west of Bidgoszcz
(Bromberg). Today it's in Poland but it used to be in Prussia.
My Arenheim family came >from there. My grandfather's foreign name was
Martin.
Your Mentein hears like it could be the same name. Also Mendelson is more
likely than Endelson, although there is also Hendelson.

Regards. Udi Cain.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Origin of First name:Mentain, in E Prussia #general

Udi Cain
 

An elderly colleague of mine has an ancestor Mentain/Mantayn endelsohn
who lived in Schneidermuhl in E Prussia.

Q1. I have searched the archives and find no mention of the first name
Mentain. Can anybody provide any information about it. pls?
Q2. StetlSeeker does not have a Schneidermuhl listed although there are 3
references to this site, one of them suggesting it is now in Poznan
province. Stetlseeker now offers "Chendremal" as a town in Romania, 360Km
NW of Bucharest. Is this the former Schneidermuhl?

Vernon Kronenberg vkronenb@pcug.org.au
Dear Vernon et al.

Schneidemuhl is today Pila, North of Poznan (Possen) and west of Bidgoszcz
(Bromberg). Today it's in Poland but it used to be in Prussia.
My Arenheim family came >from there. My grandfather's foreign name was
Martin.
Your Mentein hears like it could be the same name. Also Mendelson is more
likely than Endelson, although there is also Hendelson.

Regards. Udi Cain.


Re: Disinterest of Family Members #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

I also would love to hear how he found a connection to Abraham Lincoln. I
can still remember how I got hooked. It was my first attempt at archival
research and I was sitting in the Reading Room at the NY Jewish Genealogy
Conference in August l999. I was thumbing through Glazier's Migration
from the Russian Empire when by looking through the March l888 passenger
lists I found my Singman family listed under Schumkav. I had remembered
that my grandfather said he came during the Great Blizzard of '88 and knew
he came with a number of siblings. I checked every entry with more than
four children and there they were. I almost leaped out of my chair and
shouted and I kept looking at it in disbelief trying to find out if I made
an error as I checked each of the seven children's names. No one in my
large Singman family ever knew the name >from Lithuania before I found it
and people had tried to find it. I walked on air for the rest of the day.

Diane Jacobs
New York


I think all of this on this group empathize with you; we have all been
in your situation. It is sometimes difficult to be the only one in your
family jumping up and down with joy when you have made a discovery. Many
years ago I attended a lecture given by Arthur Kurzwiel, who told a story
when he first began his research. He was sitting in an archive when
someone jumped up shouting, thrilled that they had just discovered a
connection with their family and Abraham Lincoln. At the time, he didn't
understand what they were so excited about.

All of us on this group enjoy hearing how others have made wonderful
connections. This is the heart and soul of genealogy and why we do it.
Remember that you can always share it with us, your "other" family!

Carol Rombro Rider
Baltimore, Maryland
CRomRider@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Disinterest of Family Members #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

I also would love to hear how he found a connection to Abraham Lincoln. I
can still remember how I got hooked. It was my first attempt at archival
research and I was sitting in the Reading Room at the NY Jewish Genealogy
Conference in August l999. I was thumbing through Glazier's Migration
from the Russian Empire when by looking through the March l888 passenger
lists I found my Singman family listed under Schumkav. I had remembered
that my grandfather said he came during the Great Blizzard of '88 and knew
he came with a number of siblings. I checked every entry with more than
four children and there they were. I almost leaped out of my chair and
shouted and I kept looking at it in disbelief trying to find out if I made
an error as I checked each of the seven children's names. No one in my
large Singman family ever knew the name >from Lithuania before I found it
and people had tried to find it. I walked on air for the rest of the day.

Diane Jacobs
New York


I think all of this on this group empathize with you; we have all been
in your situation. It is sometimes difficult to be the only one in your
family jumping up and down with joy when you have made a discovery. Many
years ago I attended a lecture given by Arthur Kurzwiel, who told a story
when he first began his research. He was sitting in an archive when
someone jumped up shouting, thrilled that they had just discovered a
connection with their family and Abraham Lincoln. At the time, he didn't
understand what they were so excited about.

All of us on this group enjoy hearing how others have made wonderful
connections. This is the heart and soul of genealogy and why we do it.
Remember that you can always share it with us, your "other" family!

Carol Rombro Rider
Baltimore, Maryland
CRomRider@aol.com


Finding Family #general

Eve Clyne <Eclyne@...>
 

I am very new to this list,in fact its'my first weeks' birthday.
I have found two branches of my maternal family through the internet and
this has led me to your list.
I am in contact with along lost cousin in Syracuse(hello Marty) who was /is
reasearching his family and it all came because of a search on alta vista
for "Macofsky".

Then through Jewish gen search I have found a branch in NewZealand....
Here in the UK my first cousin and i have decided to see where else
reasearch can lead us.
I got realy excited when i did a search for my fahters' family and found a
match but then had to laugh as it was my cousin who had put in the request.
I canot believe how dedicated evryone is to their reasearch and to helping
everyone else
shalom
Eve
eclyne@tesco.net

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Finding Family #general

Eve Clyne <Eclyne@...>
 

I am very new to this list,in fact its'my first weeks' birthday.
I have found two branches of my maternal family through the internet and
this has led me to your list.
I am in contact with along lost cousin in Syracuse(hello Marty) who was /is
reasearching his family and it all came because of a search on alta vista
for "Macofsky".

Then through Jewish gen search I have found a branch in NewZealand....
Here in the UK my first cousin and i have decided to see where else
reasearch can lead us.
I got realy excited when i did a search for my fahters' family and found a
match but then had to laugh as it was my cousin who had put in the request.
I canot believe how dedicated evryone is to their reasearch and to helping
everyone else
shalom
Eve
eclyne@tesco.net

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen has a wealth of information to help you further
your research. Make sure to read the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) and
InfoFiles. A great resource for those just starting their genealogy, and
even for the "veterans" . You can access it directly >from our homepage at
http://www.jewishgen.org


OUDTSHOORN AND THE OSTRICH FEATHER INDUSTRY #southafrica

E Goldstein <eligold@...>
 

I found the following information at the site mentioned below:

"Oudtshoorn is located in an arid region relieved by flowing rivers and
irrigated agriculture, called the Little Karoo. During the Victorian Era,
Oudtshoorn was the center of the ostrich feather industry for the world's
fashion markets. The women of Europe and America adored elaborate hats
decorated with prime ostrich feathers. This generated vast wealth for the
ostrich barons and the revenue that poured into this region helped build
"feather palaces," several of which survive. After World War I, with the
popularity of the automobile, the demand for large feathery hats
disappeared. Because of the low head room in hard tops, and the impossible
combinations of convertibles and feathered hats, high fashion gave way to
sensibility. The ostrich traders went bankrupt. Today, demand for ostrich
feathers comes >from the theatrical world (boas) and house cleaners (feather
dusters). Ostrich skins are used for expensive shoes, hand bags and purses,
commanding prices comparable to the highly prized (in some circles!) skins
of baby crocs. Ostrich steaks are in demand in Europe. Ostrich meat is red
meat, but leaner than chicken. The massive hollow ostrich eggs (with a
capacity equivalent to 27 hen eggs) provide "canvasses" on which local
artists paint, everything >from "cave drawings" to Mickey Mouse. "

http://www.mgmtconsult.com/journal__page_9.htm


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica OUDTSHOORN AND THE OSTRICH FEATHER INDUSTRY #southafrica

E Goldstein <eligold@...>
 

I found the following information at the site mentioned below:

"Oudtshoorn is located in an arid region relieved by flowing rivers and
irrigated agriculture, called the Little Karoo. During the Victorian Era,
Oudtshoorn was the center of the ostrich feather industry for the world's
fashion markets. The women of Europe and America adored elaborate hats
decorated with prime ostrich feathers. This generated vast wealth for the
ostrich barons and the revenue that poured into this region helped build
"feather palaces," several of which survive. After World War I, with the
popularity of the automobile, the demand for large feathery hats
disappeared. Because of the low head room in hard tops, and the impossible
combinations of convertibles and feathered hats, high fashion gave way to
sensibility. The ostrich traders went bankrupt. Today, demand for ostrich
feathers comes >from the theatrical world (boas) and house cleaners (feather
dusters). Ostrich skins are used for expensive shoes, hand bags and purses,
commanding prices comparable to the highly prized (in some circles!) skins
of baby crocs. Ostrich steaks are in demand in Europe. Ostrich meat is red
meat, but leaner than chicken. The massive hollow ostrich eggs (with a
capacity equivalent to 27 hen eggs) provide "canvasses" on which local
artists paint, everything >from "cave drawings" to Mickey Mouse. "

http://www.mgmtconsult.com/journal__page_9.htm


Occupation - 'spekulant' in Polish #general

Basil Samuels
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

Can anyone tell me what occupation is meant by 'Spekulant' which appears in
a Polish birth certificate dated 1864 >from Zawichost. The father who was 23
at the time has this occupation.

Thanks

Basil Samuels
London
UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Occupation - 'spekulant' in Polish #general

Basil Samuels
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

Can anyone tell me what occupation is meant by 'Spekulant' which appears in
a Polish birth certificate dated 1864 >from Zawichost. The father who was 23
at the time has this occupation.

Thanks

Basil Samuels
London
UK


Re: Family Histories #general

Mel Comisarow <melcom@...>
 

Also send the history to tha state/provincial archives for the
states/provinces in which your family memers resided.

Mel Comisarow
melcom@chem.ubc.ca


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Family Histories #general

Mel Comisarow <melcom@...>
 

Also send the history to tha state/provincial archives for the
states/provinces in which your family memers resided.

Mel Comisarow
melcom@chem.ubc.ca


Izzys #general

Ofer <oferco@...>
 

Sorry to make this call here, but I received an interesting message from
izzys@gateway.net. Returning mail bounced. Please send me valid address.

Regards
Ofer Cohen


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Izzys #general

Ofer <oferco@...>
 

Sorry to make this call here, but I received an interesting message from
izzys@gateway.net. Returning mail bounced. Please send me valid address.

Regards
Ofer Cohen


Re: The place Ungarn #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

A cousin just sent me a birth certificate wherein the father stated that he
was born in "Ungarn". Was there a place in Hungary called Ungarn, or is
that the way a Hungarian would pronounce Hungary in New York City in the
late 1800's? Or what ideas do you have that could help? [ I am a total
twit when it comes to Hungary!]

Thanks in advance, Martha Levinson Lev-Zion
No, it's not about how a 19th century New Yorker might pronounce it! And
it's not really about Hungary, either -- it's about the German language.
"Ungarn" is purely and simply the normal German name for Hungary.

In Hungarian , the word for "Hungarian" is something completely different
-- Magyar. But I don't know the exact form of the noun Hungary in that
language, sorry.)

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The place Ungarn #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

A cousin just sent me a birth certificate wherein the father stated that he
was born in "Ungarn". Was there a place in Hungary called Ungarn, or is
that the way a Hungarian would pronounce Hungary in New York City in the
late 1800's? Or what ideas do you have that could help? [ I am a total
twit when it comes to Hungary!]

Thanks in advance, Martha Levinson Lev-Zion
No, it's not about how a 19th century New Yorker might pronounce it! And
it's not really about Hungary, either -- it's about the German language.
"Ungarn" is purely and simply the normal German name for Hungary.

In Hungarian , the word for "Hungarian" is something completely different
-- Magyar. But I don't know the exact form of the noun Hungary in that
language, sorry.)

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: Family disinterest #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

I have the same problem with close family members and I have discovered
that when I do find something that no one else knows, they became a bit
interested and helpful, but basically they are not interested and that is
okay by me because I am having a great time! I also know that my work
will someday be appreciated by my children and their children.

Diane Jacobs
New York


<< I get reactions like: "What are you going to do with what you find?" or
"It's enough if you update me just once in a while".
Actually, there was an item in ancestry.com a couple of weeks ago about
this phenomenon. The lady who wrote it commented that she learned to
share her thoughts and emotions with her pet.
It seems that the interest and the excitement is all ours and we have
our fellow JewishGenners to share it with. Personally, I've decided not
to let their disinterest discourage me.
I really enjoy it and that's fine with me.
Lancy Spalter
Kfar Tavor, Israel >>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Family disinterest #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

I have the same problem with close family members and I have discovered
that when I do find something that no one else knows, they became a bit
interested and helpful, but basically they are not interested and that is
okay by me because I am having a great time! I also know that my work
will someday be appreciated by my children and their children.

Diane Jacobs
New York


<< I get reactions like: "What are you going to do with what you find?" or
"It's enough if you update me just once in a while".
Actually, there was an item in ancestry.com a couple of weeks ago about
this phenomenon. The lady who wrote it commented that she learned to
share her thoughts and emotions with her pet.
It seems that the interest and the excitement is all ours and we have
our fellow JewishGenners to share it with. Personally, I've decided not
to let their disinterest discourage me.
I really enjoy it and that's fine with me.
Lancy Spalter
Kfar Tavor, Israel >>


Searching: HYMAN #general

B & R <waterwav@...>
 

Hi,

I recently found the 1900 US census entry for one of my great-grandparents.
Her parents, Philip and Rebecca, lived in Leeds until perhaps around 1885
when they moved to New York. The census lists the following members of
the family:

Parents: Philip (born 1849) & Rebecca HYMAN (born 1858)
Children:
Abraham Hyman (born 1875 in England)
Yetta (or Hattie) Hyman (born 1878 in Leeds)
Mary Hyman (born 1879 in Leeds)
Bessie Hyman (born 1881 in England)
Louis Hyman (born 1884 in England)
Rose Hyman (born 1887 in New York)
Jacob Hyman (born 1889 in New York)
Moses Hyman (born 1891 in New York)
Max Hyman (born 1893 in New York)

If any of this sounds familar, please contact me privately at
waterwav@hotmail.com

Best Regards,

Brad Gordon


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: HYMAN #general

B & R <waterwav@...>
 

Hi,

I recently found the 1900 US census entry for one of my great-grandparents.
Her parents, Philip and Rebecca, lived in Leeds until perhaps around 1885
when they moved to New York. The census lists the following members of
the family:

Parents: Philip (born 1849) & Rebecca HYMAN (born 1858)
Children:
Abraham Hyman (born 1875 in England)
Yetta (or Hattie) Hyman (born 1878 in Leeds)
Mary Hyman (born 1879 in Leeds)
Bessie Hyman (born 1881 in England)
Louis Hyman (born 1884 in England)
Rose Hyman (born 1887 in New York)
Jacob Hyman (born 1889 in New York)
Moses Hyman (born 1891 in New York)
Max Hyman (born 1893 in New York)

If any of this sounds familar, please contact me privately at
waterwav@hotmail.com

Best Regards,

Brad Gordon