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Beth El Synagogue, New Rochelle, NY; JACOBS #lodz #poland

Hafcjf@...
 

Hi! I'm hoping some genner out there goes to this shul and can help me.

On one of my periodic internet searches, I discovered that there's a Bess and
Nathan P. Jacobs Library at Beth El Synagogue, in New Rochelle, NY. I have
been searching for quite some time for a Nathan and Bess Jacobs and know that
they lived in New Rochelle.

Nathan is the son of Zelig JACOBS and Golda FLAMHOLTZ. He began with a store
selling stockings, underwear and handbags, named Vantex Hosiery. This was
successful and he opened another store and made his brother David the
manager. Then, he set up a another store on Long Island which was run by his
brother Hymie. Nat then ventured into real estate, buying several office
buildings in Manhattan. He made a good deal of money so it's quite likely
that he would have had enough money to fund a library.

We have completely lost track of this branch of the family. If you go to this
shul, could you possibly ask and see if there's anything to be learned about
this JACOBS family? Or, could you direct me to someone that I could contact
(preferably through email).

Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Cathy J. Flamholtz
Brent, AL
hafcjf@aol.com


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Beth El Synagogue, New Rochelle, NY; JACOBS #poland #lodz

Hafcjf@...
 

Hi! I'm hoping some genner out there goes to this shul and can help me.

On one of my periodic internet searches, I discovered that there's a Bess and
Nathan P. Jacobs Library at Beth El Synagogue, in New Rochelle, NY. I have
been searching for quite some time for a Nathan and Bess Jacobs and know that
they lived in New Rochelle.

Nathan is the son of Zelig JACOBS and Golda FLAMHOLTZ. He began with a store
selling stockings, underwear and handbags, named Vantex Hosiery. This was
successful and he opened another store and made his brother David the
manager. Then, he set up a another store on Long Island which was run by his
brother Hymie. Nat then ventured into real estate, buying several office
buildings in Manhattan. He made a good deal of money so it's quite likely
that he would have had enough money to fund a library.

We have completely lost track of this branch of the family. If you go to this
shul, could you possibly ask and see if there's anything to be learned about
this JACOBS family? Or, could you direct me to someone that I could contact
(preferably through email).

Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Cathy J. Flamholtz
Brent, AL
hafcjf@aol.com


HOFFMAN or HAUPTMANN; Belchatov to NY #lodz #poland

Hafcjf@...
 

I'm hoping this will ring a bell with some genner out there. We have been
searching for some time for information about my great grandmother, Evelyn
Rebecca. We're trying to pin down her maiden name. She was >from Belchatov,
Poland. I've just come across some information. Her sister (possibly a twin)
visited the family in the 1920s. Her name was Mirel HOFFMAN. We're not
certain if HOFFMAN was her married name or her maiden name. The name may have
been HAUPTMANN back in Poland. She had a son named Gavriel (may have been
Americanized to Gabriel) who was tall and handsome and worked in a handbag
factory. Mirel left NY and returned to Poland, but her son is believed to
have remained here.

I know it's not much, but if you have a Mirel or a Gabriel in your HOFFMAN
family, I'd like to hear >from you.

Cathy J. Flamholtz
Brent, AL
hafcjf@aol.com


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland HOFFMAN or HAUPTMANN; Belchatov to NY #lodz #poland

Hafcjf@...
 

I'm hoping this will ring a bell with some genner out there. We have been
searching for some time for information about my great grandmother, Evelyn
Rebecca. We're trying to pin down her maiden name. She was >from Belchatov,
Poland. I've just come across some information. Her sister (possibly a twin)
visited the family in the 1920s. Her name was Mirel HOFFMAN. We're not
certain if HOFFMAN was her married name or her maiden name. The name may have
been HAUPTMANN back in Poland. She had a son named Gavriel (may have been
Americanized to Gabriel) who was tall and handsome and worked in a handbag
factory. Mirel left NY and returned to Poland, but her son is believed to
have remained here.

I know it's not much, but if you have a Mirel or a Gabriel in your HOFFMAN
family, I'd like to hear >from you.

Cathy J. Flamholtz
Brent, AL
hafcjf@aol.com


The given name Leyb (Leib) #general

irvjs@...
 

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@uol.com.br> wrote
<<What kind of name is Leyb and how it relates to Yehuda? Is Leyb and
Lob the same name, just different spellings? >>

I have heard that Yehuda and Leib are kinui or go together.. But if that
were so, would a man named Leib call his son Judah? My mggf, Leib Speier
in 1872 wrote down a family history goingback to Joseph Plaut in
Neuenbrunslar (Hesse) in 1682. Included in this history is Leib' son, Juda
Speier-Holstein (1859-1938), my mgf.

By an odd coincidence, I have another ggf named Leib, the father of
Yakov-Meir Schiffres of Grodno, after whom I am named.

Irwin Jacob Schiffres
Rochester, NY
Searching HOLSTEIN or SPEIER-HOLSTEIN (Neuenbrunslar, Gensungen)
KAHN (Alsace, Belgium), SCHIFFRES/SHIFRES/SZYFRES (Grodno), HALPERN/GALPERN
(Grodno)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The given name Leyb (Leib) #general

irvjs@...
 

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@uol.com.br> wrote
<<What kind of name is Leyb and how it relates to Yehuda? Is Leyb and
Lob the same name, just different spellings? >>

I have heard that Yehuda and Leib are kinui or go together.. But if that
were so, would a man named Leib call his son Judah? My mggf, Leib Speier
in 1872 wrote down a family history goingback to Joseph Plaut in
Neuenbrunslar (Hesse) in 1682. Included in this history is Leib' son, Juda
Speier-Holstein (1859-1938), my mgf.

By an odd coincidence, I have another ggf named Leib, the father of
Yakov-Meir Schiffres of Grodno, after whom I am named.

Irwin Jacob Schiffres
Rochester, NY
Searching HOLSTEIN or SPEIER-HOLSTEIN (Neuenbrunslar, Gensungen)
KAHN (Alsace, Belgium), SCHIFFRES/SHIFRES/SZYFRES (Grodno), HALPERN/GALPERN
(Grodno)


Re: Is NIMOY a "kohen" surname? #general

mpfreed28315861@...
 

In article <v03010d01b65461e035e3@[128.148.44.101]>,
Judith Romney Wegner <jrw@Brown.edu> wrote:
I am wondering whether anybody out therebelongs to a NIMOY family and if
so, whether that name is is or is not associated with kehunah(i.e.were
your NIMOY relatives kohanim?)
Dear Judith,

I take it this is because of the name of the actor who played Mr. Spock
in the TV show Star Trek?

According to JewishGen there are four researchers seeking information
on that name, including one still bearing it. Try the latter.

Murray Freedman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Is NIMOY a "kohen" surname? #general

mpfreed28315861@...
 

In article <v03010d01b65461e035e3@[128.148.44.101]>,
Judith Romney Wegner <jrw@Brown.edu> wrote:
I am wondering whether anybody out therebelongs to a NIMOY family and if
so, whether that name is is or is not associated with kehunah(i.e.were
your NIMOY relatives kohanim?)
Dear Judith,

I take it this is because of the name of the actor who played Mr. Spock
in the TV show Star Trek?

According to JewishGen there are four researchers seeking information
on that name, including one still bearing it. Try the latter.

Murray Freedman


Importance of frequent Internet Searches #general

NFatouros@...
 

Usually, before I ask or answer questions about names, towns, customs or
history, I look for information in Jewishgen's Discussion Group Archives,
Family Finder, and Infofiles, or on the Internet, and I also rummage around
my bookshelves.

Also, periodically, perhaps every two weeks or so, I do Internet
searches hoping to find some of my family names, especially the fairly
unusual one, BELKOVSKY or BELKOVSKI.

Today, while I was still online, I decided to have another look or two
for my family names before I signed off. I typed in "BELKOVSKI" in the
search engine. A number of URLs which I'd already seen before showed up,
but this time there was also a new URL: it was a page >from the yizkor book
for Sopotskin, and it contained a discussion of Zionist activity of Rabbi
Schemeul Yakov Rabinovitch. The page displayed a group picture I'd not
seen before in which my my grandfather's first cousin Gregor Tzvi BELKOVSKI
appears. Of course, I clicked it on to enlarge and I saved it for eventual
printing.

About a year ago, by doing an internet search for BELKOVSKI I also found
out that his name appears in the yizkor book for Vitebsk. Later, I learned
from a helpful Israeli who loosely translated the chapter on Zionism >from
the Vitebsk yizkor that Gregor Tsvi BELKOVSKI had not visited Vitebsk, as I
had surmised, but had attended a semi-clandestine conference in Moscow at
which he was arrested and put into the Butyrka prison. Gregor Tzvi did not
mention this "incident" in his memoir.

The photograph I found today at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Sopotskin/sop037.html

is one I am grateful for, even though I have several other pictures of
Gregor Zvi and a copy of the report of the 1902 Minsk conference which
was published by M. Nurock soon after it was held.

To think I'd never before today even heard of the town Sopotskin!

Incidentally, the name FELDMAN also appeared on the same page as the
photo of Gregor Tsvi. But I doubt that I am related to "Bella FELDMAN,
daughter of Jacob FELDMAN." My grandfather FELDMAN was >from another part
(Pinsk) of the diasporal forest.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Importance of frequent Internet Searches #general

NFatouros@...
 

Usually, before I ask or answer questions about names, towns, customs or
history, I look for information in Jewishgen's Discussion Group Archives,
Family Finder, and Infofiles, or on the Internet, and I also rummage around
my bookshelves.

Also, periodically, perhaps every two weeks or so, I do Internet
searches hoping to find some of my family names, especially the fairly
unusual one, BELKOVSKY or BELKOVSKI.

Today, while I was still online, I decided to have another look or two
for my family names before I signed off. I typed in "BELKOVSKI" in the
search engine. A number of URLs which I'd already seen before showed up,
but this time there was also a new URL: it was a page >from the yizkor book
for Sopotskin, and it contained a discussion of Zionist activity of Rabbi
Schemeul Yakov Rabinovitch. The page displayed a group picture I'd not
seen before in which my my grandfather's first cousin Gregor Tzvi BELKOVSKI
appears. Of course, I clicked it on to enlarge and I saved it for eventual
printing.

About a year ago, by doing an internet search for BELKOVSKI I also found
out that his name appears in the yizkor book for Vitebsk. Later, I learned
from a helpful Israeli who loosely translated the chapter on Zionism >from
the Vitebsk yizkor that Gregor Tsvi BELKOVSKI had not visited Vitebsk, as I
had surmised, but had attended a semi-clandestine conference in Moscow at
which he was arrested and put into the Butyrka prison. Gregor Tzvi did not
mention this "incident" in his memoir.

The photograph I found today at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Sopotskin/sop037.html

is one I am grateful for, even though I have several other pictures of
Gregor Zvi and a copy of the report of the 1902 Minsk conference which
was published by M. Nurock soon after it was held.

To think I'd never before today even heard of the town Sopotskin!

Incidentally, the name FELDMAN also appeared on the same page as the
photo of Gregor Tsvi. But I doubt that I am related to "Bella FELDMAN,
daughter of Jacob FELDMAN." My grandfather FELDMAN was >from another part
(Pinsk) of the diasporal forest.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol.


Introduction of New SIG Member #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

Dear SIG Members,

I would like to introduce one of our newest members, Dr. Leonid
Smilovitsky. He is researching the life of the Jews in Belarus and
published many articles and books.

Dr. Smilovitsky was born in Rechitsa and graduated >from the History
Department of the Minsk Stata Pedagogical University (M.A), Belarus
State University (Ph.D). He worked in Belarus State Museum, Minsk
University of Culture and Belarus State University. He immigrated to
Israel, worked in Yad Vashem and now he is a researcher in the "Diaspora
Research Institute" of Tel-Aviv University.

Professor Smilovitsky's books and papers in English, Hebrew and Russian
can be found at the Library of Yad Vashem, at Jewish National and
University Library in Jerusalem and in the volumes of the Vidal Sassoon
International Center for the Study of Antisemitism (SICSA) in Jerusalem. I
am working with the professor to have copies of his books and papers sent
to the Library of Congress.

One of Dr.Smilovitsky books is a monograph, "Holocaust in Belorussia,
1941-1944" (Tel-Aviv, 2000), 432 pp. This book is written in Russian
with a preface by the author in English. I am exploring with Dr.
Smilovitsky to find a way to publish the book in English.

At present time, Dr. Smilovitsky is busy with his new monograph
"Jewish Religious Life in Belarus, 1944-1953". He would be most
grateful for any information that members of this SIG may have on this
topic. The manuscript is in Russian. The first edition will be in Hebrew
and he is also interested in having it published in English. If you can
provide anything data on the subject, please write to Dr. Smilovitsky at
smilov@netvision.net.il.

Dr. Smilovitsky also informed my about a Russian language website about
Belarus and the Association of Natives >from Byelorussia In Israel
www.souz.co.il/belzem. To read this website in English go to
http://www.aport-ru.com/en/defengtrn.asp and past in the following url:
http://www.souz.co.il/clubs/club.html?Club_ID=1
There is some very useful information there for our members. Be sure to
follow the many links and sub links to get the most out of the site.
There are links to newspapers, some of which have name lists. For those
of you that explore this site, I ask that you post reports of your
findings to the Belarus SIG discussion group.

Dr. Smilovitsky indicated to me that there is a lot of information
about the destiny Jewish people during WW2 which can find in the
following collections of documents and materials published by means of
Belorussian State Museum of the Great Patriotic War in Minsk. They
includes of the long lists of the names:
1. Tragedia evreev Belorussii, 1941-1944 (Tragedy of Belarus Jewry),
Minsk,1997. - 398 p.
2. Natsistskoe zoloto iz Belarusi. Dokumenty i materialy (Nazi gold from
Belarus. Documents and materials), Minsk, 1998. - 413 p. (There is also
a translation of all the documents >from Russian & German into English
the professor is going to send me and which I will share with the SIG).
3. Judenfrei. Svobodno ot evreev! Istoria Minskogo getto v dokumentah
(Judenfrei. Free of Jews. History of the Minsk Ghetto in documents),
Minsk, 1999. - 395 p.

We are happy to welcome Dr. Leonid Smilovitsky to the Belarus SIG and
hope that other members of the Association of Natives >from Byelorussia
In Israel will also join the Belarus SIG and share their knowledge and
friendship with us.

Dave

David Fox
fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD
Belarus SIG Coordinator


Belarus SIG #Belarus Introduction of New SIG Member #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

Dear SIG Members,

I would like to introduce one of our newest members, Dr. Leonid
Smilovitsky. He is researching the life of the Jews in Belarus and
published many articles and books.

Dr. Smilovitsky was born in Rechitsa and graduated >from the History
Department of the Minsk Stata Pedagogical University (M.A), Belarus
State University (Ph.D). He worked in Belarus State Museum, Minsk
University of Culture and Belarus State University. He immigrated to
Israel, worked in Yad Vashem and now he is a researcher in the "Diaspora
Research Institute" of Tel-Aviv University.

Professor Smilovitsky's books and papers in English, Hebrew and Russian
can be found at the Library of Yad Vashem, at Jewish National and
University Library in Jerusalem and in the volumes of the Vidal Sassoon
International Center for the Study of Antisemitism (SICSA) in Jerusalem. I
am working with the professor to have copies of his books and papers sent
to the Library of Congress.

One of Dr.Smilovitsky books is a monograph, "Holocaust in Belorussia,
1941-1944" (Tel-Aviv, 2000), 432 pp. This book is written in Russian
with a preface by the author in English. I am exploring with Dr.
Smilovitsky to find a way to publish the book in English.

At present time, Dr. Smilovitsky is busy with his new monograph
"Jewish Religious Life in Belarus, 1944-1953". He would be most
grateful for any information that members of this SIG may have on this
topic. The manuscript is in Russian. The first edition will be in Hebrew
and he is also interested in having it published in English. If you can
provide anything data on the subject, please write to Dr. Smilovitsky at
smilov@netvision.net.il.

Dr. Smilovitsky also informed my about a Russian language website about
Belarus and the Association of Natives >from Byelorussia In Israel
www.souz.co.il/belzem. To read this website in English go to
http://www.aport-ru.com/en/defengtrn.asp and past in the following url:
http://www.souz.co.il/clubs/club.html?Club_ID=1
There is some very useful information there for our members. Be sure to
follow the many links and sub links to get the most out of the site.
There are links to newspapers, some of which have name lists. For those
of you that explore this site, I ask that you post reports of your
findings to the Belarus SIG discussion group.

Dr. Smilovitsky indicated to me that there is a lot of information
about the destiny Jewish people during WW2 which can find in the
following collections of documents and materials published by means of
Belorussian State Museum of the Great Patriotic War in Minsk. They
includes of the long lists of the names:
1. Tragedia evreev Belorussii, 1941-1944 (Tragedy of Belarus Jewry),
Minsk,1997. - 398 p.
2. Natsistskoe zoloto iz Belarusi. Dokumenty i materialy (Nazi gold from
Belarus. Documents and materials), Minsk, 1998. - 413 p. (There is also
a translation of all the documents >from Russian & German into English
the professor is going to send me and which I will share with the SIG).
3. Judenfrei. Svobodno ot evreev! Istoria Minskogo getto v dokumentah
(Judenfrei. Free of Jews. History of the Minsk Ghetto in documents),
Minsk, 1999. - 395 p.

We are happy to welcome Dr. Leonid Smilovitsky to the Belarus SIG and
hope that other members of the Association of Natives >from Byelorussia
In Israel will also join the Belarus SIG and share their knowledge and
friendship with us.

Dave

David Fox
fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD
Belarus SIG Coordinator


Re: URGENT!! Virus Warnings! #belarus

Steven Rosenberg <steven_rosenberg@...>
 

Hi Elsebeth,

People should be told not to run any programs they receive >from e-mail
without knowing what they are. Even if they have an anti-virus package, it
may not recognize a virus that is newer than the last antivirus update.

Thanks Elsebeth.

Steve Rosenberg

-----Original Message-----
Elsebeth Paikin wrote:
...snip...
The only safe thing you can do is to guard yourself >from virus-attacks
by having a good virus-protection program and preferably also a virus-
shield. ....snip....
--------------------------
MODERATOR NOTE:
You are absolutely right! I forgot to mention that!
Thank you.

Moderator on duty
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
e-mail: elsebeth@paikin.dk
------------------------------------


Belarus SIG #Belarus RE: URGENT!! Virus Warnings! #belarus

Steven Rosenberg <steven_rosenberg@...>
 

Hi Elsebeth,

People should be told not to run any programs they receive >from e-mail
without knowing what they are. Even if they have an anti-virus package, it
may not recognize a virus that is newer than the last antivirus update.

Thanks Elsebeth.

Steve Rosenberg

-----Original Message-----
Elsebeth Paikin wrote:
...snip...
The only safe thing you can do is to guard yourself >from virus-attacks
by having a good virus-protection program and preferably also a virus-
shield. ....snip....
--------------------------
MODERATOR NOTE:
You are absolutely right! I forgot to mention that!
Thank you.

Moderator on duty
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
e-mail: elsebeth@paikin.dk
------------------------------------


Yudkoff/Yudkoffsky #belarus

Harold Rhode <hrhode@...>
 

Is anyone researching the family name Yudkoff or Yudkoffsky.
The family was originally >from Lithuania - possibly >from Rassein.

They lived in the Boston area and Connecticut in the early and
mid-20th century.

Thanks,

Harold Rhode


Belarus SIG #Belarus Yudkoff/Yudkoffsky #belarus

Harold Rhode <hrhode@...>
 

Is anyone researching the family name Yudkoff or Yudkoffsky.
The family was originally >from Lithuania - possibly >from Rassein.

They lived in the Boston area and Connecticut in the early and
mid-20th century.

Thanks,

Harold Rhode


Looking for Patrick Gordis #belarus

Reeva Kimble <rKimble@...>
 

The e-mail address that I have for Patrick Gordis no longer works.
Patrick used to respond on the Belarus SIG. If you know how I can
reach him by e-mail, please contact me or ask him to write to me.

Thanks,
Reeva Kimble
rkimble@oregon.uoregon.edu
Mir Belarus web site: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~rkimble/Mirweb/Mir1.html


Belarus SIG #Belarus Looking for Patrick Gordis #belarus

Reeva Kimble <rKimble@...>
 

The e-mail address that I have for Patrick Gordis no longer works.
Patrick used to respond on the Belarus SIG. If you know how I can
reach him by e-mail, please contact me or ask him to write to me.

Thanks,
Reeva Kimble
rkimble@oregon.uoregon.edu
Mir Belarus web site: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~rkimble/Mirweb/Mir1.html


Re: Warsaw ghetto #poland

Gary Mokotoff <mokotoff@...>
 

Terry Ostrach poses some questions about the Warsaw ghetto.

I have always found it valuable to read history books when I run into tough
genealogy problems that require a historical context to understand the
problem. This is the case with the Warsaw ghetto questions being posed by
Terry.

The Warsaw ghetto was an section of Warsaw artificially created by the
Germans when they conquered Poland in 1939. In 1940, they forced all Jews
living in Warsaw and its vicinity (its vicinity may have been as much as 50
miles) to live in the confines of this very small section of Warsaw that
became known as the Warsaw ghetto. They built a wall around the area to
assure that the Jews would remain in the area. This ghettoizing occurred
throughout Poland. The strategy was to concentrate Jews into ghettos and
then when the Final Solution was created, to transport them >from the ghettos
to concentration camps or extermination camps. The total number of Jews
living in the Warsaw ghetto was estimated at 450,000. I have seem estimates
that the population density was about 6-7 people per room. Starting in the
summer of 1942, Jews were deported to their deaths at Treblinka, some 35
miles northeast of Warsaw. In the final round of deportations in April 1943,
the remnant of Jews rebelled and held off the Germans for a number of days.
This all is a very cursory explanation of the ghetto days. I recommend that
anyone interested in that era read one of the many history books on the
subject.

As to some specific questions posed by Terry:

1. Is it true that ALL Jews in Warsaw ca 1900 lived in the Ghetto? Based on
the first sentence in my description of the ghetto, it is highly likely that
any Jew living in the vicinity of Warsaw in 1939 was sent to the ghetto.

2. What side of Warsaw was it on? There are maps in history books that show
the exact boundaries of the ghetto.

3. Are there Ghetto records anywhere? Sadly, there are virtually no records
naming individuals >from the Warsaw ghetto era. There were no deportation
lists to Treblinka and few ghetto records were created that identify
individuals.

Gary Mokotoff


Re: Info abt Warsaw Ghetto #poland

Jurek Hirschberg <jurek.hirschberg@...>
 

Dear Terry,
A ghetto is a part of the town in which the Jews are forced to live in
isolation. In the pre-war Warsaw there were areas dominated by the Jewish
part of the population. It can be claimed that many Jews were forced by
their economic conditions to live where they lived. Still, this does not
make a ghetto. No Jews lived in the Warsaw Ghetto in 1900 because there was
no ghetto at the time. The Warsaw Ghetto was a German re-invention. It was
established in 1939 and liquidated on May 16, 1943.

Best regards,
Jurek

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Ostrach [mailto:to-5star@ctfl.com]
Sent: den 6 december 2000 09:04
To: JRI-Poland
Subject: [jri-pl] Info abt Warsaw Ghetto


Hope one of you folks can help me with this information. I'm trying to
focus my search for my husband's maternal family ancestors who in the US
have used the names Gilfenbain, Galfenbaum, and Elfenbaum, but we believe
that the name in Poland was Elfenbein. In need some information about the
Warsaw Ghetto. Here is the background, first:

My husband's grandfather (Avrum {Elfenbein} Gilfenbain) was >from Warszawa
and was
born in 1890. He had a sister, Hannah, born approximately in 1878 or 1879.
I did a search in the JRI-Poland/Warszawa section for Elfenbain.
The search produced a marriage record in Zakroczym, a town on the
northern outskirts of Warszawa in1877 for Icjek Eflenbein.
Family "memory" indicates that Avrum's father was called "Itzi" so
I am hoping that Icjek Elfenbein is "ours."
The marriage year is "good" since it "works" with Hannah's birth date,
and she was his oldest child.
If I could find a birth record connecting either Hannah or Avrum to
Icjek Eflenbein, then I would have a certainty.
I haven't run across the name "Elfenbain"very often in the lists, so I'm
hoping this is it.

Now, here's my question. My Sister-in-law insists that since Avrum
was >from Warsaw that he MUST have lived in the Warsaw ghetto though
she concedes that Itzi may have come >from an area outside of the city.
I'm not about to have an unfounded discourse with my sister-in-law about
something I know little about.

Is it true that ALL Jews in Warsaw ca 1900 lived in the Ghetto? If so, what
was the location of the Ghetto in Warsaw? Did it have a name? Was it a
shtetl? What side of Warsaw was it on? Are there Ghetto records anywhere?

BTW, I've sent to Poland for the above record listed in the JRI PSA list. I
imagine it will be awhile before I get it back. I'll let you all know when
that happens.

Terry



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