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Re: Questions posted here #ukraine

JGLois@...
 

I would respectfully like to contribute some (hopefully)
constructive criticism of recent typical postings on this digest.
Before I get specific, I am aware that many of those posting
here are new to genealogy, Jewish genealogy specifically, and
the resources of Jewishgen.

If you are serious about finding your family history, as opposed
to just "throwing" out the names on the net in order to see what
comes your way, you must familiarize yourself with the concepts
of genealogical searching and the specific resources
available on Jewishgen. Both can be accomplished by going
to the Jewishgen website and reading the exceptional FAQ's.
There you will learn about the basic document search and
other common strategies for beginning your research.

Even if you are not inclined to do the requisite research you can at
least do some basic searching on the Internet.

For instance you can select a search engine (my preference
these days is Google.com) and type in a surname or a the name of
a town.


Now, I will address a few specifics:

"The family name or any phonetically similar names was
westernized by some immigration official"

This last point has been addressed hundreds of times in the six and
one-half years I have participated in Jewishgen and it's other resources
(like this forum.) There were NO name changes made by immigration
officials. They had no opportunity to do so. There are a lot of reasons
and explanations for name changes all of which can be found in the
Info. Files or Archives on Jewishgen. [Please don't flame me with stories
to that effect >from your family lore. Although your relatives may have
perceived that situation it was not the correct perception.

"I am looking for other people who are researching the town of
Kremenchug"

Type "Kremenchug" in the Google search engine and you will
get 1,850 hits. Not all are in English and not all sites are operational
but I found much general information, and photography, about the place,
(including many woman >from there who are looking to find a
man in the US ;~)

Lois Sernoff <JGLois@aol.com>

Researching:
MEZHIRITZKY [MERITZ, MARRITZ, MARRITS] >from Korsun in Kiev Gub. to Phila.
SOSNOVSKY [SOSNOFSKY, SOSNOV - all spelling variations] >from Gorodishche
in Cherkassy uezd, Kiev Gub. to Philadelphia, PA or anywhere.
FRIEDMAN >from Beltsy/Balti ["Bels" Bessarabia] Moldova to anywhere
KUSHNER [all spelling variations} >from Tomashpol and Yampol in Podolia Gub. to anywhere

Moderator Note: Some editing of message was done to avoid offending any member


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Questions posted here #ukraine

JGLois@...
 

I would respectfully like to contribute some (hopefully)
constructive criticism of recent typical postings on this digest.
Before I get specific, I am aware that many of those posting
here are new to genealogy, Jewish genealogy specifically, and
the resources of Jewishgen.

If you are serious about finding your family history, as opposed
to just "throwing" out the names on the net in order to see what
comes your way, you must familiarize yourself with the concepts
of genealogical searching and the specific resources
available on Jewishgen. Both can be accomplished by going
to the Jewishgen website and reading the exceptional FAQ's.
There you will learn about the basic document search and
other common strategies for beginning your research.

Even if you are not inclined to do the requisite research you can at
least do some basic searching on the Internet.

For instance you can select a search engine (my preference
these days is Google.com) and type in a surname or a the name of
a town.


Now, I will address a few specifics:

"The family name or any phonetically similar names was
westernized by some immigration official"

This last point has been addressed hundreds of times in the six and
one-half years I have participated in Jewishgen and it's other resources
(like this forum.) There were NO name changes made by immigration
officials. They had no opportunity to do so. There are a lot of reasons
and explanations for name changes all of which can be found in the
Info. Files or Archives on Jewishgen. [Please don't flame me with stories
to that effect >from your family lore. Although your relatives may have
perceived that situation it was not the correct perception.

"I am looking for other people who are researching the town of
Kremenchug"

Type "Kremenchug" in the Google search engine and you will
get 1,850 hits. Not all are in English and not all sites are operational
but I found much general information, and photography, about the place,
(including many woman >from there who are looking to find a
man in the US ;~)

Lois Sernoff <JGLois@aol.com>

Researching:
MEZHIRITZKY [MERITZ, MARRITZ, MARRITS] >from Korsun in Kiev Gub. to Phila.
SOSNOVSKY [SOSNOFSKY, SOSNOV - all spelling variations] >from Gorodishche
in Cherkassy uezd, Kiev Gub. to Philadelphia, PA or anywhere.
FRIEDMAN >from Beltsy/Balti ["Bels" Bessarabia] Moldova to anywhere
KUSHNER [all spelling variations} >from Tomashpol and Yampol in Podolia Gub. to anywhere

Moderator Note: Some editing of message was done to avoid offending any member


Re: Romanian phonebook online #hungary

David and BethLong <dnblong@...>
 

Dear Janos and Others,

Here is the URL for the online Romanian phone book. Remember, the current
Romanian county names are not the same as those of the former hungarian
counties.

http://www.whitepages.ro/


Best Regards,

Beth Long
dnblong@cts.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Janos Bogardi / Radix [SMTP:janos@bogardi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 11:12 PM
To: Beth Long
Subject: Romanian phonebook online

Dear Beth Long,

In a recent message to Hungary-L you wrote:

The Romanian phone book is online, and I found the following in Hargita
County:

??GYUJTO EVA
Adresa: Mihail Sadoveanu, Nr. 4, Sc. B, Etaj , Apart. 14, MIERCUREA CIUC,
210, 4100, Telefon: 066.112818
<snip>

Oh, that's great news! Beth, would you care to post the URL of the
phonebook to the Hungarian genealogy related lists? I mean HUNGARY-L of
rootsweb, the H-SIG of Jewishgen and also the BANAT-L of rootsweb. I don
not think this has been posted before, although this could be of interest
for many.

Thank you!

Sincerely,

Janos Bogardi / Radix.
http://www.bogardi.com/gen/


JewishgenMall's Grand Opening! #hungary

Carol Skydell <cskydell@...>
 

many books of interest to H-Sig researchers

visit the Mall at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall/

start by clicking on BROWSE MALL

select Books, select history, select countries, select Hungary
and there are several books listed.

for Abaujszanto researchers we have on grand opening SPECIAL....

Vine and Thorns in Tokay Valley: Jewish Life in Hungary: The History of
Abaujszanto

The author, in one of the few studies of small-town Orthodox Jewish life,
traces the history of a Jewish settlement in Hungary between 1738 and 1950.
Publisher: Fairleigh Dickinson Univ. Press. Author: Zahava Szasz
StesselAssoc Univ Press

Retail Price : $ 49.50 Your Price $45.50

Discounted Gift Certificates Available in honor of our Grand Opening

Shop the JewishGen Mall - holiday gifts - books - software
videos

the Mall is similar to a Museum Store, you get choice items and JewishGen
Operations benefits >from the commission we earn on sales.

Carol Skydell
JewishGen Operations


Jewishgen virus warning #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <Lmagyar@...>
 

1. Fw: Virus Warning (this is real)

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Fw: Virus Warning (this is real)
From: "BohMor Coordinator" <bohmor@prodigy.net>
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:56:53 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1


I checked this out. McAfee.com has a new protection for this virus and
Symantec (Norton) has protection for what appears to be the same virus
although the name is W32.Prolin.Worm.

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.prolin.worm.html
http://www.mcafee.com/anti-virus/viruses/prolin/default.asp


When I notified Carol Skydell, she recommended that I post this information
here, advising all moderators to post it with the warning that anyone using
significant amounts of e-mail should have a virus protection program
installed.

Thanks everybody. Hope you don't have a problem with it.

Sharla Levine
Coordinator, BohMor SIG
bohmor@prodigy.net

----- Original Message -----

** High Priority **

A new virus called W32/ProLin@MM is a high risk Internet virus that is
received via email in the form:

Subject: A great Shockwave flash movie
Body: Check out this new flash movie that I downloaded just now ... It's
Great Bye
Attachment: creative.exe

The infected email can come >from addresses that you recognize. Attached is a
file named CREATIVE.EXE that carries the icon of a Shockwave Media Player
application. However it is not a Shockwave Media Player application and it
will alter files on your hard disk Subsequently, the virus sends a copy of
itself to everyone in your email address book.

Anyone who receives a message "A great Shockwave flash movie" or a message
with the attachment "creative.exe" should not open the message and delete
the message (and empty the trash) immediately.




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FW: FEEFHS Convention 2001, Milwaukee #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <Lmagyar@...>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kahlile Mehr [mailto:MehrKB@ldschurch.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:57 PM
To: lmagyar@en.com
Subject: FEEFHS Convention 2001, Milwaukee


Dear Mr. Schonfeld,


We would appreciate you distributing this information to the members of your
SIG or sending names of potential convention presenters to me for further
action.


CALL FOR PAPERS

The Federation of East European Family History Societies is excited to
announce:

FEEFHS CONVENTION 2001

5-7 OCT 2001, MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN

Ramada Inn Aiport South, 6401 South 13th Street

The conference program committee extends an invitation to all interested
parties to submit suggestions for possible lecture topics on genealogical
sources, research techniques, databases, projects in all European countries
east of and including Germany and Austria. Tentative plans are for
lectures, panels, and workshops in the following areas:

U.S. Immigration Records, European Emigration Records
Germanic and Slavic Genealogy
Polish, Belarus, Ukrainian, Moldovan, Russian, Baltic, and Balkan Research
Internet Sources for Eastern European Genealogy
East European Databases

Please contact:
Kahlile Mehr, Program Chair
FEEFHS Convention 2001
412 South 400 West
Centerville, UT 84014
mehrkb@ldschurch.org

You will be sent by post or e-mail a submission form in which you can
provide a title and synopsis of what would be covered, audio-visual
requirements, and contact information for us to keep in touch as the program
is crafted.

DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION: 15 MARCH 2001


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Romanian phonebook online #hungary

David and BethLong <dnblong@...>
 

Dear Janos and Others,

Here is the URL for the online Romanian phone book. Remember, the current
Romanian county names are not the same as those of the former hungarian
counties.

http://www.whitepages.ro/


Best Regards,

Beth Long
dnblong@cts.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Janos Bogardi / Radix [SMTP:janos@bogardi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 11:12 PM
To: Beth Long
Subject: Romanian phonebook online

Dear Beth Long,

In a recent message to Hungary-L you wrote:

The Romanian phone book is online, and I found the following in Hargita
County:

??GYUJTO EVA
Adresa: Mihail Sadoveanu, Nr. 4, Sc. B, Etaj , Apart. 14, MIERCUREA CIUC,
210, 4100, Telefon: 066.112818
<snip>

Oh, that's great news! Beth, would you care to post the URL of the
phonebook to the Hungarian genealogy related lists? I mean HUNGARY-L of
rootsweb, the H-SIG of Jewishgen and also the BANAT-L of rootsweb. I don
not think this has been posted before, although this could be of interest
for many.

Thank you!

Sincerely,

Janos Bogardi / Radix.
http://www.bogardi.com/gen/


Hungary SIG #Hungary JewishgenMall's Grand Opening! #hungary

Carol Skydell <cskydell@...>
 

many books of interest to H-Sig researchers

visit the Mall at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall/

start by clicking on BROWSE MALL

select Books, select history, select countries, select Hungary
and there are several books listed.

for Abaujszanto researchers we have on grand opening SPECIAL....

Vine and Thorns in Tokay Valley: Jewish Life in Hungary: The History of
Abaujszanto

The author, in one of the few studies of small-town Orthodox Jewish life,
traces the history of a Jewish settlement in Hungary between 1738 and 1950.
Publisher: Fairleigh Dickinson Univ. Press. Author: Zahava Szasz
StesselAssoc Univ Press

Retail Price : $ 49.50 Your Price $45.50

Discounted Gift Certificates Available in honor of our Grand Opening

Shop the JewishGen Mall - holiday gifts - books - software
videos

the Mall is similar to a Museum Store, you get choice items and JewishGen
Operations benefits >from the commission we earn on sales.

Carol Skydell
JewishGen Operations


Hungary SIG #Hungary Jewishgen virus warning #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <Lmagyar@...>
 

1. Fw: Virus Warning (this is real)

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Fw: Virus Warning (this is real)
From: "BohMor Coordinator" <bohmor@prodigy.net>
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:56:53 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1


I checked this out. McAfee.com has a new protection for this virus and
Symantec (Norton) has protection for what appears to be the same virus
although the name is W32.Prolin.Worm.

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.prolin.worm.html
http://www.mcafee.com/anti-virus/viruses/prolin/default.asp


When I notified Carol Skydell, she recommended that I post this information
here, advising all moderators to post it with the warning that anyone using
significant amounts of e-mail should have a virus protection program
installed.

Thanks everybody. Hope you don't have a problem with it.

Sharla Levine
Coordinator, BohMor SIG
bohmor@prodigy.net

----- Original Message -----

** High Priority **

A new virus called W32/ProLin@MM is a high risk Internet virus that is
received via email in the form:

Subject: A great Shockwave flash movie
Body: Check out this new flash movie that I downloaded just now ... It's
Great Bye
Attachment: creative.exe

The infected email can come >from addresses that you recognize. Attached is a
file named CREATIVE.EXE that carries the icon of a Shockwave Media Player
application. However it is not a Shockwave Media Player application and it
will alter files on your hard disk Subsequently, the virus sends a copy of
itself to everyone in your email address book.

Anyone who receives a message "A great Shockwave flash movie" or a message
with the attachment "creative.exe" should not open the message and delete
the message (and empty the trash) immediately.




---

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Hungary SIG #Hungary FW: FEEFHS Convention 2001, Milwaukee #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <Lmagyar@...>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kahlile Mehr [mailto:MehrKB@ldschurch.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:57 PM
To: lmagyar@en.com
Subject: FEEFHS Convention 2001, Milwaukee


Dear Mr. Schonfeld,


We would appreciate you distributing this information to the members of your
SIG or sending names of potential convention presenters to me for further
action.


CALL FOR PAPERS

The Federation of East European Family History Societies is excited to
announce:

FEEFHS CONVENTION 2001

5-7 OCT 2001, MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN

Ramada Inn Aiport South, 6401 South 13th Street

The conference program committee extends an invitation to all interested
parties to submit suggestions for possible lecture topics on genealogical
sources, research techniques, databases, projects in all European countries
east of and including Germany and Austria. Tentative plans are for
lectures, panels, and workshops in the following areas:

U.S. Immigration Records, European Emigration Records
Germanic and Slavic Genealogy
Polish, Belarus, Ukrainian, Moldovan, Russian, Baltic, and Balkan Research
Internet Sources for Eastern European Genealogy
East European Databases

Please contact:
Kahlile Mehr, Program Chair
FEEFHS Convention 2001
412 South 400 West
Centerville, UT 84014
mehrkb@ldschurch.org

You will be sent by post or e-mail a submission form in which you can
provide a title and synopsis of what would be covered, audio-visual
requirements, and contact information for us to keep in touch as the program
is crafted.

DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION: 15 MARCH 2001


Sochaczew records? #poland

misaacso@...
 

Does anyone know if there will be any records of Sochaczew and the
surrounding area being transcribed anytime soon?

Thanks for your help!

Farra Isaacson
NY, NY
RESEARCHING:

Poland: (Ciechanowiec) BORENSTEIN, LEVINE
(Sochaczew) HABERMAN, GOLDKRANTZ, FLEISCHMAN, JACOBOVITZ
Russia: Ukraine: (Odessa): SCHWEIBISH, SCHWARTZMAN, MESHOURAS (MISHURIS),
COHEN, CHALFIN, KAPLOWITZ
Latvia (Riga): LIPSHITZ (all spellings), KUSLANSKY (all
variations), JOEL (YOEL)
Lithuania: LIPSHITZ (all), ISAACSON


JRI Poland #Poland Sochaczew records? #poland

misaacso@...
 

Does anyone know if there will be any records of Sochaczew and the
surrounding area being transcribed anytime soon?

Thanks for your help!

Farra Isaacson
NY, NY
RESEARCHING:

Poland: (Ciechanowiec) BORENSTEIN, LEVINE
(Sochaczew) HABERMAN, GOLDKRANTZ, FLEISCHMAN, JACOBOVITZ
Russia: Ukraine: (Odessa): SCHWEIBISH, SCHWARTZMAN, MESHOURAS (MISHURIS),
COHEN, CHALFIN, KAPLOWITZ
Latvia (Riga): LIPSHITZ (all spellings), KUSLANSKY (all
variations), JOEL (YOEL)
Lithuania: LIPSHITZ (all), ISAACSON


Info abt Warsaw Ghetto #poland

Terry Ostrach <to-5star@...>
 

Hope one of you folks can help me with this information. I'm trying to
focus my search for my husband's maternal family ancestors who in the US
have used the names Gilfenbain, Galfenbaum, and Elfenbaum, but we believe
that the name in Poland was Elfenbein. In need some information about the
Warsaw Ghetto. Here is the background, first:

My husband's grandfather (Avrum {Elfenbein} Gilfenbain) was >from Warszawa
and was
born in 1890. He had a sister, Hannah, born approximately in 1878 or 1879.
I did a search in the JRI-Poland/Warszawa section for Elfenbain.
The search produced a marriage record in Zakroczym, a town on the
northern outskirts of Warszawa in1877 for Icjek Eflenbein.
Family "memory" indicates that Avrum's father was called "Itzi" so
I am hoping that Icjek Elfenbein is "ours."
The marriage year is "good" since it "works" with Hannah's birth date,
and she was his oldest child.
If I could find a birth record connecting either Hannah or Avrum to
Icjek Eflenbein, then I would have a certainty.
I haven't run across the name "Elfenbain"very often in the lists, so I'm
hoping this is it.

Now, here's my question. My Sister-in-law insists that since Avrum
was >from Warsaw that he MUST have lived in the Warsaw ghetto though
she concedes that Itzi may have come >from an area outside of the city.
I'm not about to have an unfounded discourse with my sister-in-law about
something I know little about.

Is it true that ALL Jews in Warsaw ca 1900 lived in the Ghetto? If so, what
was the location of the Ghetto in Warsaw? Did it have a name? Was it a
shtetl? What side of Warsaw was it on? Are there Ghetto records anywhere?

BTW, I've sent to Poland for the above record listed in the JRI PSA list. I
imagine it will be awhile before I get it back. I'll let you all know when
that happens.

Terry


JRI Poland #Poland Info abt Warsaw Ghetto #poland

Terry Ostrach <to-5star@...>
 

Hope one of you folks can help me with this information. I'm trying to
focus my search for my husband's maternal family ancestors who in the US
have used the names Gilfenbain, Galfenbaum, and Elfenbaum, but we believe
that the name in Poland was Elfenbein. In need some information about the
Warsaw Ghetto. Here is the background, first:

My husband's grandfather (Avrum {Elfenbein} Gilfenbain) was >from Warszawa
and was
born in 1890. He had a sister, Hannah, born approximately in 1878 or 1879.
I did a search in the JRI-Poland/Warszawa section for Elfenbain.
The search produced a marriage record in Zakroczym, a town on the
northern outskirts of Warszawa in1877 for Icjek Eflenbein.
Family "memory" indicates that Avrum's father was called "Itzi" so
I am hoping that Icjek Elfenbein is "ours."
The marriage year is "good" since it "works" with Hannah's birth date,
and she was his oldest child.
If I could find a birth record connecting either Hannah or Avrum to
Icjek Eflenbein, then I would have a certainty.
I haven't run across the name "Elfenbain"very often in the lists, so I'm
hoping this is it.

Now, here's my question. My Sister-in-law insists that since Avrum
was >from Warsaw that he MUST have lived in the Warsaw ghetto though
she concedes that Itzi may have come >from an area outside of the city.
I'm not about to have an unfounded discourse with my sister-in-law about
something I know little about.

Is it true that ALL Jews in Warsaw ca 1900 lived in the Ghetto? If so, what
was the location of the Ghetto in Warsaw? Did it have a name? Was it a
shtetl? What side of Warsaw was it on? Are there Ghetto records anywhere?

BTW, I've sent to Poland for the above record listed in the JRI PSA list. I
imagine it will be awhile before I get it back. I'll let you all know when
that happens.

Terry


Comment on strategy and arhcival access #belarus

Franklin J. Swartz <eejhp@...>
 

Dear All,

I am writing in response to Ms. Margolyes suggestion regarding the
Belarus National Archives. Before proceeding I should declare an
interest in the matter. The East European Jewish Heritage Project
finances many of its charitable activities >from income derived
through genealogical research.

As such it is not unreasonable to assume that any arrangement which,
as Ms. Margolyes proposes, exclusively restricts research access to
the Archive's own staff, will reduce or eliminate that income and the
benefits which flow >from it.

Having said that I feel that there are other considerations which
would redound to the disadvantage of researchers in the West if the
proposal is pursued. First, of course, is the matter of choice.
The Archives already offer a research service. Some people find
it satisfactory others do not. It makes little sense to actively
create a situation in which one must rely exclusively on the
judgment and skills of one group of researchers. In the Archives
at present there are only two people working as researchers. At
least one of them has ambitions to monopolize all research work.
This is reflected in a range of hidden charges which accrete as
work is done. There is no reason to believe that this example
will not be followed by the Archive itself if outsiders are excluded
from conducting research.
Additionally while the present goodwill of the archive executive is
not in doubt one cannot be certain about future administrations,
especially given the parlous state of U.S.-Belarusian relations.

To an extent relations between Western researchers and the Archives of
Belarus have been fouled by visitors, who have made promises to provide
and encourage assistance, but have not followed through with concrete
action. There is no doubt much to be gained in the way of goodwill by
providing necessary equipment and facilities to enhance indexing and
archiving but it is wrong to encourage restriction of access. Instead
one must fortify goodwill by implementing promisedintentions with timely
actions.

Ms. Margolyes' is correct in assuming that the interests of the National
Archive and the Belarusian nation would be severely compromised by
allowing mass copying and publication of its holdings and this will
never happen. The archive, however, has no objection to providing
indexing and has not done so because of lack of resources.
Ms. Margolyes is also correct in describing their present rates for many
of their services as reasonably priced and, as I said above, some people
find them satisfactory as well. If equipment is to be provided it should
be done solely as an act of goodwill and without strings. One must bear
also in mind that there must be ongoing contact with the Belarusian
government over this issue and intermittent contact without follow
through, as been the case in the past, will serve only to create ill
will and low credibility.

An important matter which has not been touched on is the cost of properly
equipping the archive for the tasks required. Given the complete lack of
equipment: no archival scanners or copiers; no Pentium level computers;
no digital cameras; no budget for media; inadequate staff numbers; a
very moderate guess would be that at least $10,000 is needed to make
this proposal a reality. A donation of this scale would have to be
Negotiated with government to assure that equipment goes to the archive
and that it does not attract taxation under Belarusian law.

To summarize: Any arrangement which results in restriction of access
to the archives will be inimical to the interests of Western researchers.
On a larger scale the encouragement of government control and
monopolization of access to information at any level is an obstacle to
the growth of civil society; an exercise in which no organization should
engage in the Former Soviet Union. The way forward is, in my opinion,
to facilitate open access by providing resources which will enable
indexing and proper archiving of materials. This should be done in a
responsible way through the proper channels.


Franklin J. Swartz
Executive Director
East European Jewish Heritage Project Ltd (USA)
East European Jewish Heritage Project (UK)
Jewish Revival Charitable Mission (Republic of Belarus)
13b Dauman Street
Minsk 220002
Belarus
Tel/Fax: +375 17 234 3360
eejhp@yahoo.com
http://eejhp.tripod.ca
SAVE LIVES AND TRADITIONS:
http://eejhp.tripod.ca/donation1.htm

-----------
...SNIP...
. . .we should agree that all the ACCESS, & COPYING of those documents is
controlled by the official Belarus Archive & paid for -according to the
not terribly expensive fee scale, which they demand at this moment.
-----------


Belarus SIG #Belarus Comment on strategy and arhcival access #belarus

Franklin J. Swartz <eejhp@...>
 

Dear All,

I am writing in response to Ms. Margolyes suggestion regarding the
Belarus National Archives. Before proceeding I should declare an
interest in the matter. The East European Jewish Heritage Project
finances many of its charitable activities >from income derived
through genealogical research.

As such it is not unreasonable to assume that any arrangement which,
as Ms. Margolyes proposes, exclusively restricts research access to
the Archive's own staff, will reduce or eliminate that income and the
benefits which flow >from it.

Having said that I feel that there are other considerations which
would redound to the disadvantage of researchers in the West if the
proposal is pursued. First, of course, is the matter of choice.
The Archives already offer a research service. Some people find
it satisfactory others do not. It makes little sense to actively
create a situation in which one must rely exclusively on the
judgment and skills of one group of researchers. In the Archives
at present there are only two people working as researchers. At
least one of them has ambitions to monopolize all research work.
This is reflected in a range of hidden charges which accrete as
work is done. There is no reason to believe that this example
will not be followed by the Archive itself if outsiders are excluded
from conducting research.
Additionally while the present goodwill of the archive executive is
not in doubt one cannot be certain about future administrations,
especially given the parlous state of U.S.-Belarusian relations.

To an extent relations between Western researchers and the Archives of
Belarus have been fouled by visitors, who have made promises to provide
and encourage assistance, but have not followed through with concrete
action. There is no doubt much to be gained in the way of goodwill by
providing necessary equipment and facilities to enhance indexing and
archiving but it is wrong to encourage restriction of access. Instead
one must fortify goodwill by implementing promisedintentions with timely
actions.

Ms. Margolyes' is correct in assuming that the interests of the National
Archive and the Belarusian nation would be severely compromised by
allowing mass copying and publication of its holdings and this will
never happen. The archive, however, has no objection to providing
indexing and has not done so because of lack of resources.
Ms. Margolyes is also correct in describing their present rates for many
of their services as reasonably priced and, as I said above, some people
find them satisfactory as well. If equipment is to be provided it should
be done solely as an act of goodwill and without strings. One must bear
also in mind that there must be ongoing contact with the Belarusian
government over this issue and intermittent contact without follow
through, as been the case in the past, will serve only to create ill
will and low credibility.

An important matter which has not been touched on is the cost of properly
equipping the archive for the tasks required. Given the complete lack of
equipment: no archival scanners or copiers; no Pentium level computers;
no digital cameras; no budget for media; inadequate staff numbers; a
very moderate guess would be that at least $10,000 is needed to make
this proposal a reality. A donation of this scale would have to be
Negotiated with government to assure that equipment goes to the archive
and that it does not attract taxation under Belarusian law.

To summarize: Any arrangement which results in restriction of access
to the archives will be inimical to the interests of Western researchers.
On a larger scale the encouragement of government control and
monopolization of access to information at any level is an obstacle to
the growth of civil society; an exercise in which no organization should
engage in the Former Soviet Union. The way forward is, in my opinion,
to facilitate open access by providing resources which will enable
indexing and proper archiving of materials. This should be done in a
responsible way through the proper channels.


Franklin J. Swartz
Executive Director
East European Jewish Heritage Project Ltd (USA)
East European Jewish Heritage Project (UK)
Jewish Revival Charitable Mission (Republic of Belarus)
13b Dauman Street
Minsk 220002
Belarus
Tel/Fax: +375 17 234 3360
eejhp@yahoo.com
http://eejhp.tripod.ca
SAVE LIVES AND TRADITIONS:
http://eejhp.tripod.ca/donation1.htm

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...SNIP...
. . .we should agree that all the ACCESS, & COPYING of those documents is
controlled by the official Belarus Archive & paid for -according to the
not terribly expensive fee scale, which they demand at this moment.
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URGENT!! Virus Warnings! #belarus

Elsebeth Paikin
 

To Belarus SIG

A new virus is spreading, and some send out warnings against it.
it is:
NAME: Creative
ALIAS: Prolin, Shockwave, W32/Prolin@mm
ALIAS: TROJ_SHOCKWAVE, TROJ_PROLIN

However, it is simply not possible to send out warnings against
every new virus/worm/trojans. Since the above was diagnosed and
warnings were being sent out, a new one has appeared
NAME: BleBla
ALIAS: Romeo-and-Juliet, Romeo, Juliet, Verona, IWorm_Blebla,
I-Worm.Blebla

The only safe thing you can do is to guard yourself >from virus-attacks
by having a good virus-protection program and preferably also a virus-
shield.

Furthermore, check out one of the many excellent websites, that bring
information about all the new viruses, such as:

These websites enable you to check something out in seconds - just a
click away! So play it safe: take the time to visit them regularly.
Here are some URLs:

http://www.datafellows.com/virus-info/
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html

And if you send out virus-warnings to a friend or two
---(don't ask to copy and send the warnings to ---
---everybody in the address book, as that might ---
---be considered a hoax, spam and chain letter!)---
but to a few friends or colleagues you can send the warning with
a remedy and explanation.
Without the latter a warning is not of much use!
And you can find the remedy at the above mentioned websites.

So virus warnings should not be sent to the JewishGen mailing lists.

Best regards


------------------------------------
Moderator of the Belarus, Denmark
and Ekaterinoslav Discussion Groups
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
e-mail: elsebeth@paikin.dk
------------------------------------


Belarus SIG #Belarus URGENT!! Virus Warnings! #belarus

Elsebeth Paikin
 

To Belarus SIG

A new virus is spreading, and some send out warnings against it.
it is:
NAME: Creative
ALIAS: Prolin, Shockwave, W32/Prolin@mm
ALIAS: TROJ_SHOCKWAVE, TROJ_PROLIN

However, it is simply not possible to send out warnings against
every new virus/worm/trojans. Since the above was diagnosed and
warnings were being sent out, a new one has appeared
NAME: BleBla
ALIAS: Romeo-and-Juliet, Romeo, Juliet, Verona, IWorm_Blebla,
I-Worm.Blebla

The only safe thing you can do is to guard yourself >from virus-attacks
by having a good virus-protection program and preferably also a virus-
shield.

Furthermore, check out one of the many excellent websites, that bring
information about all the new viruses, such as:

These websites enable you to check something out in seconds - just a
click away! So play it safe: take the time to visit them regularly.
Here are some URLs:

http://www.datafellows.com/virus-info/
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html

And if you send out virus-warnings to a friend or two
---(don't ask to copy and send the warnings to ---
---everybody in the address book, as that might ---
---be considered a hoax, spam and chain letter!)---
but to a few friends or colleagues you can send the warning with
a remedy and explanation.
Without the latter a warning is not of much use!
And you can find the remedy at the above mentioned websites.

So virus warnings should not be sent to the JewishGen mailing lists.

Best regards


------------------------------------
Moderator of the Belarus, Denmark
and Ekaterinoslav Discussion Groups
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
e-mail: elsebeth@paikin.dk
------------------------------------


Verified Virus Information #belarus

joan breslow <webjoan@...>
 

It was a little tricky finding this, but there's a description of this
virus (first identified on 30 November), along with advice on how to
remove it and restore files, at the following Symantech site:

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.prolin.worm.html

It was first identified on 30 November 2000. It's important to have
up-to-date anti-virus software! I just purchased and installed Norton
Internet Security 2001, which has a firewall to protect you while you're
on the Internet and also includes anti-virus software to protect your
e-mail.

The only trouble is, you have to uninstall the Norton before you install
other software. However, the Norton software uninstalls and reinstalls
fairly fast.

Another site to check would be

http://www.mcafee.com/anti-virus/viruses/prolin/default.asp


joan breslow


Belarus SIG #Belarus Verified Virus Information #belarus

joan breslow <webjoan@...>
 

It was a little tricky finding this, but there's a description of this
virus (first identified on 30 November), along with advice on how to
remove it and restore files, at the following Symantech site:

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.prolin.worm.html

It was first identified on 30 November 2000. It's important to have
up-to-date anti-virus software! I just purchased and installed Norton
Internet Security 2001, which has a firewall to protect you while you're
on the Internet and also includes anti-virus software to protect your
e-mail.

The only trouble is, you have to uninstall the Norton before you install
other software. However, the Norton software uninstalls and reinstalls
fairly fast.

Another site to check would be

http://www.mcafee.com/anti-virus/viruses/prolin/default.asp


joan breslow