Yes, this happened in my husband's family. Father Itzik died during the
pregnancy and the child was a boy named Itzik after him.

Robin

I am helping a friend who is looking for the birth mother of a baby. The
"baby" is now 31 years old and was adopted at birth by a Jewish family.
My friend knows the mother's first and last name (which are both very
common names) at the time the mother delivered, approximate age at the
time the mother delivered and the approximate area of New York state at
the time the mother delivered. She knows that the mother was Jewish at
the time of delivery and that the baby's grandfather came >from Poland to
the New York state area. Where can you suggest that she begin her
search? I will forward any assistance/direction or questions that you
send to me to my friend. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Kim Sheintal

The county seat is Freehold, NJ. Have you tried calling the Belmar
Municipality to see if they have any records. I called 732.681.1176 press
#9 and then extension 231 and ask for Pat. She said she does have death
records for that time period. I don't Freehold has any death certificates
there, but they do have a Hall of Records.

Robin

<delete_this_to_reply_stacy_harris@juno.com> wrote:

Yes, this happened in my husband's family. Father Itzik died during the
pregnancy and the child was a boy named Itzik after him.

Robin

I am helping a friend who is looking for the birth mother of a baby. The
"baby" is now 31 years old and was adopted at birth by a Jewish family.
My friend knows the mother's first and last name (which are both very
common names) at the time the mother delivered, approximate age at the
time the mother delivered and the approximate area of New York state at
the time the mother delivered. She knows that the mother was Jewish at
the time of delivery and that the baby's grandfather came >from Poland to
the New York state area. Where can you suggest that she begin her
search? I will forward any assistance/direction or questions that you
send to me to my friend. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Kim Sheintal

The county seat is Freehold, NJ. Have you tried calling the Belmar
Municipality to see if they have any records. I called 732.681.1176 press
#9 and then extension 231 and ask for Pat. She said she does have death
records for that time period. I don't Freehold has any death certificates
there, but they do have a Hall of Records.

Robin

<delete_this_to_reply_stacy_harris@juno.com> wrote:

I think I have read about this subject in the discussion group at an
earlier time. I have searched the site and can not seem to find the
information I am looking for.
The notations entered on the ships passenger pages under the occupation
column are related to obtaining naturalization papers. What do the
numbers mean ?
for example 2-769948-8-7-40
and 2-915214
If someone has a good key to search for the past discussion that would be
helpful.

Barry Chernick
Bellevue WA

Greetings-
I was able to locate, and inter-library loan through my
local public library, a copy of the Jewish Communal register
1917-1918. I found it to be a great and wonderful source of info.
I do have a few questions for the group-
1) Was there another register published later? 1920? 1921?

2) I didn't see listing for barber's unions. My grandfather,
Jacob Shapiro, was a secretary in the union.
Is there another source for that information?

3) My grandfather, Julius Shapiro, was a member of the butcher's
union and wanted to know if there was another source for that
too.

Maybe I was to overwhelmed by the info to see any of those
listings. I looked in the index and didn't find their names.

Thanks for the help.
Marshall Shapiro
searching EPSTEIN, SHAPIRO, SATENSTEIN, SCHNEIDER

I think I have read about this subject in the discussion group at an
earlier time. I have searched the site and can not seem to find the
information I am looking for.
The notations entered on the ships passenger pages under the occupation
column are related to obtaining naturalization papers. What do the
numbers mean ?
for example 2-769948-8-7-40
and 2-915214
If someone has a good key to search for the past discussion that would be
helpful.

Barry Chernick
Bellevue WA

Greetings-
I was able to locate, and inter-library loan through my
local public library, a copy of the Jewish Communal register
1917-1918. I found it to be a great and wonderful source of info.
I do have a few questions for the group-
1) Was there another register published later? 1920? 1921?

2) I didn't see listing for barber's unions. My grandfather,
Jacob Shapiro, was a secretary in the union.
Is there another source for that information?

3) My grandfather, Julius Shapiro, was a member of the butcher's
union and wanted to know if there was another source for that
too.

Maybe I was to overwhelmed by the info to see any of those
listings. I looked in the index and didn't find their names.

Thanks for the help.
Marshall Shapiro
searching EPSTEIN, SHAPIRO, SATENSTEIN, SCHNEIDER

In 1999, Dr. Vivian Moses began a study using DNA to trace the migration
of Ashkenazi Jews. I took part in the study.

There is a website which posts the progress of the study. Unfortunately,
I lost all my "bookmarks" recently due to a computer problem.

Does anyone know URL of the website I am referring too?

Wayne Roth
Brooklyn, New York

I am working on a research project for a class in American Studies at
Columbia University. I am interested in photographs of turn-of-the-century
immigrant weddings in New York City, particularly the clothing worn by the
bride (this could be a formal dress or other outfit). I am focusing on
Jewish immigrants on the Lower East Side of Manhattan, but other
ethnicities and New York locations are also of interest.

The dates can range >from about 1890-1920. If you have any photographs (or
artifacts such as actual wedding dresses or outfits, wedding invitations,
marriage certificates, gifts inscribed with the wedding date), I would be
very interested to hear about them and possibly see them (perhaps by
photocopy). If you do not have any photographs or artifacts, but know of
a marriage that took place, I would still like to hear about it. Perhaps a
relative has told you where a marriage occurred in New York (a synagogue,
rabbi's study, church, event hall, restaurant).

Thank you very much for your help.

Elizabeth Block
NY, NY
blockeliz@aol.com

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Dear All

I am sure I thanked everyone individually for help with the above, but in
case I have left anyone out, I would like to say a big Thank You for the
help, advice and trouble that many of you out there went to.

Rica B Goldberg
Manchester, England

In 1999, Dr. Vivian Moses began a study using DNA to trace the migration
of Ashkenazi Jews. I took part in the study.

There is a website which posts the progress of the study. Unfortunately,
I lost all my "bookmarks" recently due to a computer problem.

Does anyone know URL of the website I am referring too?

Wayne Roth
Brooklyn, New York

I am working on a research project for a class in American Studies at
Columbia University. I am interested in photographs of turn-of-the-century
immigrant weddings in New York City, particularly the clothing worn by the
bride (this could be a formal dress or other outfit). I am focusing on
Jewish immigrants on the Lower East Side of Manhattan, but other
ethnicities and New York locations are also of interest.

The dates can range >from about 1890-1920. If you have any photographs (or
artifacts such as actual wedding dresses or outfits, wedding invitations,
marriage certificates, gifts inscribed with the wedding date), I would be
very interested to hear about them and possibly see them (perhaps by
photocopy). If you do not have any photographs or artifacts, but know of
a marriage that took place, I would still like to hear about it. Perhaps a
relative has told you where a marriage occurred in New York (a synagogue,
rabbi's study, church, event hall, restaurant).

Thank you very much for your help.

Elizabeth Block
NY, NY
blockeliz@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.

Dear All

I am sure I thanked everyone individually for help with the above, but in
case I have left anyone out, I would like to say a big Thank You for the
help, advice and trouble that many of you out there went to.

Rica B Goldberg
Manchester, England

I, too, have contracted poison ivy while doing research at Baron Hirsch
Cemetery on Staten Island. I was trying to crawl beneath my
great-grandmother's tombstone, which had been knocked down (along with many
others). I, too, was quoted an outrageous amount of money for cleanup and
restoration.

Perhaps if there are enough of us in this situation, we can help effect a
real cleanup. The poison ivy can't be left to continue to run wild, and
the condition of that cemetery (which I haven't been to in about five
years) shouldn't be left to continue to deteriorate.

Anyone have any ideas on how to go about this?

Ken Turkewitz
Turkewitz@alum.mit.edu

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It was suggested to me recently that "es" is commonly added to then end of
Surnames in Lithuania. And so, the name DROSNES ( my maternal great
grandmother's family name) may be in fact identical to Drosen (or Drazin
or Dreisin or Drizin or another variation) without the "es".

Does anyone have any expertise in this matter?
Thank,
David Gurtler
David and Tina Gurtler
Jerusalem, Israel
gurtler@netvision.net.il

I would like to recommend William Raspberry's essay "Name Calling"
in today's Washington Post. You can see it on line in the Post's
opinion section.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20619-2000Nov5.html

(Needless to say, I have no personal stake in this man's column -
other than agreeing with him.)

Israel Pickholtz

I, too, have contracted poison ivy while doing research at Baron Hirsch
Cemetery on Staten Island. I was trying to crawl beneath my
great-grandmother's tombstone, which had been knocked down (along with many
others). I, too, was quoted an outrageous amount of money for cleanup and
restoration.

Perhaps if there are enough of us in this situation, we can help effect a
real cleanup. The poison ivy can't be left to continue to run wild, and
the condition of that cemetery (which I haven't been to in about five
years) shouldn't be left to continue to deteriorate.

Anyone have any ideas on how to go about this?

Ken Turkewitz
Turkewitz@alum.mit.edu

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