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Polish Immigration program @ Univ of Minnesota #general

steven.chall@...
 

I received the following notice >from the University of
Minnesota Immigrant History Research Center. I have no other details.


Research in Progress

"The Untold Story: The Development of the Literary Image
of the Polish Immigrant Family (1880-1939)"

Danuta Pytlak
Doctoral Fellow, Institute of English, Warsaw University, Poland.

Thursday, September 21, 2000 at 4:30 p.m.
Immigration History Research Center
Conference Room 308
Elmer L. Andersen Library, 222 South 21st Avenue, Minneapolis
(Note: exterior building doors close at 5:00 p.m.)

Refreshments will be served.
Please RSVP for the presentation at 612-625-4800 by Wednesday,
September 20


See parking options on map at http://www.umn.edu/ihrc/visiting.htm


Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN
Researching:
ALEXANDER & CHALL (Dvinsk,Russia (now Latvia); before 1900)
ZELMANOV & HALKIN (Bobruisk, Russia; before 1907) (France; abt 1930)
BECKER & CHASKELOWITZ (became CHASWORTH)
(Kishenev, Bessarabia; before 1920)
Someday BRODSKY, COHEN, KAPLAN, etc (Poland / Russia)
All ended up in parts of New York City


Jewish Orphanages Update #general

MSpearssol@...
 

The following information has been updated on my website,
HNOH Welcome-Jewish Orphanages in the US
http://www.scruz.net/~elias/hnoh

US Jewish Orphanage Page:
Archival information has been added to the Orphanages in Chicago.

Orphans Records and Holding Page, Lady Deb Page and Federal and State
Census Page have been updated with new findings. Archival , soundex
listings, and newspaper article lists.

The Jewish Genealogy Page and Other Genealogical Resources Page have 130
new URLs added for researching, including some new Internet resources.

Check out the Alumni Search page in case someone is looking for you!!!

Marge Spears-Soloff
Orlando, FL
MSpearssol@...
Website e-mail: HNOHalumni@...
HNOH Welcome-Jewish Orphanages in the United States
http://www.scruz.net/~elias/hnoh


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish Immigration program @ Univ of Minnesota #general

steven.chall@...
 

I received the following notice >from the University of
Minnesota Immigrant History Research Center. I have no other details.


Research in Progress

"The Untold Story: The Development of the Literary Image
of the Polish Immigrant Family (1880-1939)"

Danuta Pytlak
Doctoral Fellow, Institute of English, Warsaw University, Poland.

Thursday, September 21, 2000 at 4:30 p.m.
Immigration History Research Center
Conference Room 308
Elmer L. Andersen Library, 222 South 21st Avenue, Minneapolis
(Note: exterior building doors close at 5:00 p.m.)

Refreshments will be served.
Please RSVP for the presentation at 612-625-4800 by Wednesday,
September 20


See parking options on map at http://www.umn.edu/ihrc/visiting.htm


Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN
Researching:
ALEXANDER & CHALL (Dvinsk,Russia (now Latvia); before 1900)
ZELMANOV & HALKIN (Bobruisk, Russia; before 1907) (France; abt 1930)
BECKER & CHASKELOWITZ (became CHASWORTH)
(Kishenev, Bessarabia; before 1920)
Someday BRODSKY, COHEN, KAPLAN, etc (Poland / Russia)
All ended up in parts of New York City


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Orphanages Update #general

MSpearssol@...
 

The following information has been updated on my website,
HNOH Welcome-Jewish Orphanages in the US
http://www.scruz.net/~elias/hnoh

US Jewish Orphanage Page:
Archival information has been added to the Orphanages in Chicago.

Orphans Records and Holding Page, Lady Deb Page and Federal and State
Census Page have been updated with new findings. Archival , soundex
listings, and newspaper article lists.

The Jewish Genealogy Page and Other Genealogical Resources Page have 130
new URLs added for researching, including some new Internet resources.

Check out the Alumni Search page in case someone is looking for you!!!

Marge Spears-Soloff
Orlando, FL
MSpearssol@...
Website e-mail: HNOHalumni@...
HNOH Welcome-Jewish Orphanages in the United States
http://www.scruz.net/~elias/hnoh


Re: The name Tikla #general

Viktor.Tsiporine <tsiporin@...>
 

Udi Cain wrote:

Dear JewishGenners,

I got a reply for my question with regard to a name that I found in the
back of my maternal G'grandmother's tombstone >from 1965. She ordered to
put the names of the relatives who were murdered in the holocaust,
on her grave. One was Tikla, daughter of Rabbi Abraham and her daughter.

"The name Teckla or Tikla is a Ukrainian name. It was used by Jews and
non-Jews alike. It is still used today although not common.
I just returned >from Ukraine where I met a woman with this name and was
given that explanation."

I think that Tikla was the Hebrew name of my maternal grandfather's
cousin, Trude.


Hello,
I think it deals very probably about the greco-slavic name Thekla
(russian: Fekla), quite frequently used in the christl.-ortodox. space
till the II. WW. It is present in the russian name calendar:
St. Thekla, aged virgin, martyred at Iconium.

Regards.


Re: The name Tikla #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Dear Udi,

In answer to your message below, concerning your ancestor whose name was
rendered TQLH on her stone, it does not follow that this was a "Hebrew"
name (as you put it), even if she used it as her "Jewish" name or her only
name. For reasons given below, it is very unlikely that this name is based
on the Hebrew root TQL -- it is probably a transliteration of the Greek
name Thekla. As you yourself say, someone told you that the name Tekla or
Tikla was commonly used in the Ukraine by Jews and Gentiles alike. I
would assume that this is simply the Ukrainian version of the name Thekla
- (just as Thecla is the Latin version). Thekla was a disciple of St. Paul
in the first century, and is considered the first female Christian martyr!
The Byzantine (Gk.Orthodox) churches flourished in the Ukraine, which would
certainly explain why Thekla was a big name there.

The reason I would place a heavy bet that the name TQLH is not derived from
Hebrew at all is that the Hebrew root T-Q-L has only one set of
connotations, all of them very bad and therefore highly unlikely to be
given to any child as a birthname: the noun TQLH in Hebrew (sometimes
vocalized as TaQQaLaH and sometimes as TeQaLah) means as follows (acc. to
the Alcalay dictionary):

"Obstacle, hindrance, hurdle, stumbling block; fault; failure, hitch,
offence; incident, accident, mishap, diaster, misfortune." This is surely
not a name that a parent would give to any child (not even to one who was
in fact conceived by accident or whose birth was considered, God forbid, a
misfortune!).

The same spelling , in a slightly different grammatical form, teqalah,
also appears in the mahzor for the High Holy Days, near the end of the
Shemoneh Esreh. Birnbaum translates it "offense."

If this were my ancestor, I would conclude that she had a non-Hebrew name
(namely, Thekla) which just coincidentally happened to transliterate
into the letters TQLH -- but has absolutely no actual connection with
Hebrew language as such.

Judith Romney Wegner

Dear JewishGenners,

I got a reply for my question with regard to a name that I found in the
back of my maternal G'grandmother's tombstone >from 1965. She ordered to
put the names of the relatives who were murdered in the holocaust,
on her grave. One was Tikla, daughter of Rabbi Abraham and her daughter.

"The name Teckla or Tikla is a Ukrainian name. It was used by Jews and
non-Jews alike. It is still used today although not common.
I just returned >from Ukraine where I met a woman with this name and was
given that explanation."

I think that Tikla was the Hebrew name of my maternal grandfather's
cousin, Trude. Someone suggested that it was misreading and it might had
been Tikva, but as I answered her:
The cemetery in Sanhedria, Jerusalem, is a very preserved one,
The tombstone is in perfect shape.
and the Lammed is Lammed.
Taf Kuf Lammed Heh.
>Udi Cain


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The name Tikla #general

Viktor.Tsiporine <tsiporin@...>
 

Udi Cain wrote:

Dear JewishGenners,

I got a reply for my question with regard to a name that I found in the
back of my maternal G'grandmother's tombstone >from 1965. She ordered to
put the names of the relatives who were murdered in the holocaust,
on her grave. One was Tikla, daughter of Rabbi Abraham and her daughter.

"The name Teckla or Tikla is a Ukrainian name. It was used by Jews and
non-Jews alike. It is still used today although not common.
I just returned >from Ukraine where I met a woman with this name and was
given that explanation."

I think that Tikla was the Hebrew name of my maternal grandfather's
cousin, Trude.


Hello,
I think it deals very probably about the greco-slavic name Thekla
(russian: Fekla), quite frequently used in the christl.-ortodox. space
till the II. WW. It is present in the russian name calendar:
St. Thekla, aged virgin, martyred at Iconium.

Regards.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The name Tikla #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Dear Udi,

In answer to your message below, concerning your ancestor whose name was
rendered TQLH on her stone, it does not follow that this was a "Hebrew"
name (as you put it), even if she used it as her "Jewish" name or her only
name. For reasons given below, it is very unlikely that this name is based
on the Hebrew root TQL -- it is probably a transliteration of the Greek
name Thekla. As you yourself say, someone told you that the name Tekla or
Tikla was commonly used in the Ukraine by Jews and Gentiles alike. I
would assume that this is simply the Ukrainian version of the name Thekla
- (just as Thecla is the Latin version). Thekla was a disciple of St. Paul
in the first century, and is considered the first female Christian martyr!
The Byzantine (Gk.Orthodox) churches flourished in the Ukraine, which would
certainly explain why Thekla was a big name there.

The reason I would place a heavy bet that the name TQLH is not derived from
Hebrew at all is that the Hebrew root T-Q-L has only one set of
connotations, all of them very bad and therefore highly unlikely to be
given to any child as a birthname: the noun TQLH in Hebrew (sometimes
vocalized as TaQQaLaH and sometimes as TeQaLah) means as follows (acc. to
the Alcalay dictionary):

"Obstacle, hindrance, hurdle, stumbling block; fault; failure, hitch,
offence; incident, accident, mishap, diaster, misfortune." This is surely
not a name that a parent would give to any child (not even to one who was
in fact conceived by accident or whose birth was considered, God forbid, a
misfortune!).

The same spelling , in a slightly different grammatical form, teqalah,
also appears in the mahzor for the High Holy Days, near the end of the
Shemoneh Esreh. Birnbaum translates it "offense."

If this were my ancestor, I would conclude that she had a non-Hebrew name
(namely, Thekla) which just coincidentally happened to transliterate
into the letters TQLH -- but has absolutely no actual connection with
Hebrew language as such.

Judith Romney Wegner

Dear JewishGenners,

I got a reply for my question with regard to a name that I found in the
back of my maternal G'grandmother's tombstone >from 1965. She ordered to
put the names of the relatives who were murdered in the holocaust,
on her grave. One was Tikla, daughter of Rabbi Abraham and her daughter.

"The name Teckla or Tikla is a Ukrainian name. It was used by Jews and
non-Jews alike. It is still used today although not common.
I just returned >from Ukraine where I met a woman with this name and was
given that explanation."

I think that Tikla was the Hebrew name of my maternal grandfather's
cousin, Trude. Someone suggested that it was misreading and it might had
been Tikva, but as I answered her:
The cemetery in Sanhedria, Jerusalem, is a very preserved one,
The tombstone is in perfect shape.
and the Lammed is Lammed.
Taf Kuf Lammed Heh.
>Udi Cain


Re: Organising a reunion #general

Hilary Henkin <propper@...>
 

Dear Michael,
I admire your willingnes to embark on a project of much labor, but have
no doubt the results willl be worth it! Here is a website, for a
magazine, which may help. I haven't ordered the magizine, so cannot
vouch >from personal epxerience, but only because I'm not ready to tackle
such a project <g>. The magazine is "Reunions Magazine", and their URL is
<http://www.reunionsmag.com/>

Good luck with your reunion!

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia USA

MODERATOR NOTE: Some articles can be read at the website for no charge.


Meaning of the surname TOOR #general

Matt Singer <msinger@...>
 

Dear Genners (especially those with a linguist bent):

Would anyone know the roots/meaning of the surname TOOR? My TOOR
forebears were, I believe, >from Kurland (now southern Latvia), which
was a German-speaking region. I consulted a German-English dictionary,
and the closest equivalent I could find was "Tor," which means either
"gate" or "fool" (naturally, I'm not eager to adopt the latter definition
as definitve).

TOOR seems to be an uncommon name, but I have seen it appended to other
words to form Jewish surnames: ROSENTOOR, for example

Any and all thoughts are welcome.

Matt Singer
Philadelphia
Researching: SINGER, GERBER, GARONZIK, KLEINMAN, TUCH, TOOR, BLAU, RINGER,
FREEDMAN


Babelfish vs. Humans in Translation #general

David Goldman <davic@...>
 

As a professional translator also, I want to add my voice to concur with
Chaim Charutz and Michael Bernet 100%. I once saw the following statement
which seems to summarize this issue:

"Would you sign an English-language contract that had been translated by a
machine?"

David Goldman

However, if you need a professional translation of, say, a
technical legal, literary or scientific document, software packages at the
level of Babelfish are woefully inadequate.


BENDHEIM and KAUFMANN #general

BEEKG@...
 

I am looking for the BENDHEIM and KAUFMANN families >from Germany.

I have the following information:

Gerson KAUFMANN (? Germany-?) married ? BENDHEIM (? Germany-?) son: Max
KAUFMANN 21 August 1861 Germany-19 November 1936 NYC married Hannah
(Hannchen) HERZ 1864 Kochendorf, Baden Wuerdemberg, Germany-? NYC)

Hannah and Max are my grandparents. I would dearly like to know >from
where in Germany Gerson and Max KAUFMANN and the BENDHEIM family
originated I have noted on the Jewishgen Family Finder that there seems
to be a cluster of BENDHEIMs in Bensheim, Hesse.

I would be very grateful for any information list members can give me.

Regards
Bessie Grossman
Rockville Centre, NY


telephone books #general

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I have found one of the most helpful sources in tracing living family
members to be telephone books. I wonder if it's possible for people
travelling to or >from Eastern Europe, South Africa, large US & UK
cities to bring back with them, the telephone books of the area?
I know these are often huge, bulky items but so fantastically useful
for those of us searching. The excellent website:

www.teldir.com


can point us to some on-line directories but for Eastern
Europe & South Africa, no such on-line facility exists.

I have the Jo'burg directory for 1998\1999. I will do some
look-ups in return for donations to Jewish Gen. E-mailed copies
of the Jewish Gen receipt will ensure a response!

But for those travelling, maybe even sending by sea-mail, those
phhone books are goldmines of info.

Miriam MARGOLYES
Santa Monica

e-mail: 75342.3217@...

searching: GOLDSMITH (London to USA 1940s) any MICHAELS
(London 19 Century) MARGOLYES or similar (Grodno & Indura)
HART (London)


Free Archives / Boston Globe #general

Jaxschwab@...
 

In case any of you missed noticing, the Boston Globe is offering free
access to its archives for the month of September.

http://www.boston.com/globe/search

Jacqueline Waldstein Schwab
Rye Brook, NY

Searching: >from Lithuania, WALDSTEIN, MENKIN, ABELSKY, DUBINSKY, ZIEVE,
ROME


various useful websites #general

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

These are >from the Rootsweb website:
Permission to reprint articles >from Missing Links is granted
unless specifically stated otherwise, provided: (1) the reprint
is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; and (2) the
following notice appears at the end of the article:
Written by [author's name, e-mail address, and URL, if
given]. Previously published by Julia M. Case and Myra
Vanderpool Gormley, CG, Missing Links, Vol. 5, No. 35,
30 August 2000. RootsWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/


British Commonwealth Forces who Died in World War I or World
War II as well as 60,000 civilian World War II casualties are
included in the searchable database at
http://yard.ccta.gov.uk/cwgc/register.nsf/

Georgia Genealogy Books. http://www.gagenbooks.com/


Ireland, County Sligo. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/


Missing In Action/Prisoner Of War Page(worldwide links)
http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/mia.html
by the International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists (IBSSG)

U.S. Air Force World War II History. Data re those who served
in the 8th AAF, 2nd AD, 392nd BG. Mission summaries, MACR's,
oversea burials, casualties, aircraft dispositions, roll of
honor (POW-MIA-KIA), stories, maps, photos of crews, planes,
support, base, etc. 30+ megabytes of World War II history
compiled by researchers >from the U.S.A., England, and Europe.

http://www.b24.net/



Miriam Margolyes
Santa Monica
e-mail: 75342.3217@...

searching: STUPEL (Grodno & Indura) GOLDSMITH (Alec b. in London 1920s-
emigrated with his sisters, Babs & Betty)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Organising a reunion #general

Hilary Henkin <propper@...>
 

Dear Michael,
I admire your willingnes to embark on a project of much labor, but have
no doubt the results willl be worth it! Here is a website, for a
magazine, which may help. I haven't ordered the magizine, so cannot
vouch >from personal epxerience, but only because I'm not ready to tackle
such a project <g>. The magazine is "Reunions Magazine", and their URL is
<http://www.reunionsmag.com/>

Good luck with your reunion!

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia USA

MODERATOR NOTE: Some articles can be read at the website for no charge.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Meaning of the surname TOOR #general

Matt Singer <msinger@...>
 

Dear Genners (especially those with a linguist bent):

Would anyone know the roots/meaning of the surname TOOR? My TOOR
forebears were, I believe, >from Kurland (now southern Latvia), which
was a German-speaking region. I consulted a German-English dictionary,
and the closest equivalent I could find was "Tor," which means either
"gate" or "fool" (naturally, I'm not eager to adopt the latter definition
as definitve).

TOOR seems to be an uncommon name, but I have seen it appended to other
words to form Jewish surnames: ROSENTOOR, for example

Any and all thoughts are welcome.

Matt Singer
Philadelphia
Researching: SINGER, GERBER, GARONZIK, KLEINMAN, TUCH, TOOR, BLAU, RINGER,
FREEDMAN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Babelfish vs. Humans in Translation #general

David Goldman <davic@...>
 

As a professional translator also, I want to add my voice to concur with
Chaim Charutz and Michael Bernet 100%. I once saw the following statement
which seems to summarize this issue:

"Would you sign an English-language contract that had been translated by a
machine?"

David Goldman

However, if you need a professional translation of, say, a
technical legal, literary or scientific document, software packages at the
level of Babelfish are woefully inadequate.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BENDHEIM and KAUFMANN #general

BEEKG@...
 

I am looking for the BENDHEIM and KAUFMANN families >from Germany.

I have the following information:

Gerson KAUFMANN (? Germany-?) married ? BENDHEIM (? Germany-?) son: Max
KAUFMANN 21 August 1861 Germany-19 November 1936 NYC married Hannah
(Hannchen) HERZ 1864 Kochendorf, Baden Wuerdemberg, Germany-? NYC)

Hannah and Max are my grandparents. I would dearly like to know >from
where in Germany Gerson and Max KAUFMANN and the BENDHEIM family
originated I have noted on the Jewishgen Family Finder that there seems
to be a cluster of BENDHEIMs in Bensheim, Hesse.

I would be very grateful for any information list members can give me.

Regards
Bessie Grossman
Rockville Centre, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen telephone books #general

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I have found one of the most helpful sources in tracing living family
members to be telephone books. I wonder if it's possible for people
travelling to or >from Eastern Europe, South Africa, large US & UK
cities to bring back with them, the telephone books of the area?
I know these are often huge, bulky items but so fantastically useful
for those of us searching. The excellent website:

www.teldir.com


can point us to some on-line directories but for Eastern
Europe & South Africa, no such on-line facility exists.

I have the Jo'burg directory for 1998\1999. I will do some
look-ups in return for donations to Jewish Gen. E-mailed copies
of the Jewish Gen receipt will ensure a response!

But for those travelling, maybe even sending by sea-mail, those
phhone books are goldmines of info.

Miriam MARGOLYES
Santa Monica

e-mail: 75342.3217@...

searching: GOLDSMITH (London to USA 1940s) any MICHAELS
(London 19 Century) MARGOLYES or similar (Grodno & Indura)
HART (London)