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The Kohen hand sign #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Susan Stock wrote:
>Hello all.. I just received a photograph of my GGGrandparents headstones.
I was surprised to read something I hadn't known before. MyGGGrandfather
Nathan Mendel was born in Schroda, Prussia June 19, 1828. On the stone
there are hands making the "Nanoo-Nanoo" sign ...>from Mork and Mindy!
That's the only way to describe it!
I don't specifically recall the "Nanoo-Nanoo" hand sign. But I think you
may actually be referring to Spock's hand sign in Star Trek. If so (and
if your ggf was a kohen) what you see on the headstone is a pair of
upraised hands with the fingers separated two-and-two, which marks the
grave of a Kohen. This is the way Kohanim traditionally configure their
hands when blessing the congregation in a liturgical ritual performed on
festivals in orthodox diaspora synagogues -- and every shabbat in Israeli
synagogues -- based on the commandment in Numbers 6:22-27.

Leonard Nimoy (Mr. Spock) was in fact a kohen and he has gone on record as
explaining that he learned to do that with his hands after he became Bar
Mitzvah and thus eligible to go up and bless the people -- but it's news to
me that Robin Williams was Jewish at all!

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Kohen hand sign #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Susan Stock wrote:
>Hello all.. I just received a photograph of my GGGrandparents headstones.
I was surprised to read something I hadn't known before. MyGGGrandfather
Nathan Mendel was born in Schroda, Prussia June 19, 1828. On the stone
there are hands making the "Nanoo-Nanoo" sign ...>from Mork and Mindy!
That's the only way to describe it!
I don't specifically recall the "Nanoo-Nanoo" hand sign. But I think you
may actually be referring to Spock's hand sign in Star Trek. If so (and
if your ggf was a kohen) what you see on the headstone is a pair of
upraised hands with the fingers separated two-and-two, which marks the
grave of a Kohen. This is the way Kohanim traditionally configure their
hands when blessing the congregation in a liturgical ritual performed on
festivals in orthodox diaspora synagogues -- and every shabbat in Israeli
synagogues -- based on the commandment in Numbers 6:22-27.

Leonard Nimoy (Mr. Spock) was in fact a kohen and he has gone on record as
explaining that he learned to do that with his hands after he became Bar
Mitzvah and thus eligible to go up and bless the people -- but it's news to
me that Robin Williams was Jewish at all!

Judith Romney Wegner


Croation Jews #general

MERLE KUCAN <BUTCHKUCAN@...>
 

A researching my grandparent who lived in Croatia during the 1900-1920
period. Would anyone know of any place to find this information.
Need your help thanks

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen InfoFiles directory at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles> has an InfoFile
with basic information on Jewish research in Croatia.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Croation Jews #general

MERLE KUCAN <BUTCHKUCAN@...>
 

A researching my grandparent who lived in Croatia during the 1900-1920
period. Would anyone know of any place to find this information.
Need your help thanks

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen InfoFiles directory at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles> has an InfoFile
with basic information on Jewish research in Croatia.


Eishyshok was in Poland between WWI and WWII #general

Phrases1@...
 

Carol Skydell was quite correct.

Eisiskes/Eshishuk/Ejszyzki/Eisheshok at 54o10' 25o04'
was miasto (county town) and a council office in the
First Uchastok, Lida powiat, Nowogrodskie voevodstvo of
Poland between WWI and WWII.

The same applies to the subordinate villages and hamlets of
Gilwiniszki, Horostaiszki, Jurggiszki/Yuratshiki), Hornostaiszki,
Juryzdyka, Kolesniki (Kalesnik), Korsaki, Kukawka, Nacha,
Plytnica, Podborze, Ponierdzil, Songiniszki, Swiackewicze,
Tawsiuny, Tetiance, Wersoka and estates and hamlets: Antoniszki,
Bialopriotry, Bratomierz, Dzickance, Dzierzanieszki, Emilucin,
Galdzie, Hermany, Hubertowo, Jawor, Jurele, Korkuciany, Lubkiszki,
Marcinkszki, Marjanowka, Marjanowo, Mongieliszki, Nowokunce,
Pietuchowo, Raubiszki, Runkuny, Struciszki, Wojdagi, Wojsiaty,
Woroniszki, Zalesie, Zubiszki.

Most specific information may be gleaned at
http://members.nbci.com/newhoir/lida-site/lida-dist.htm

Ellen Sadove Renck
Lida District Researchers Coordinator

Subject: Re: Video - There once was a Town
From: "Zalman Latzkovich" <zalman@sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 20:38:15 -0500

To Carol Skydell,

As far as I know, the town of Eishyshok was in Lithuania and
not in Poland before WWII .

Zalman Latzkovich
Toronto


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Eishyshok was in Poland between WWI and WWII #general

Phrases1@...
 

Carol Skydell was quite correct.

Eisiskes/Eshishuk/Ejszyzki/Eisheshok at 54o10' 25o04'
was miasto (county town) and a council office in the
First Uchastok, Lida powiat, Nowogrodskie voevodstvo of
Poland between WWI and WWII.

The same applies to the subordinate villages and hamlets of
Gilwiniszki, Horostaiszki, Jurggiszki/Yuratshiki), Hornostaiszki,
Juryzdyka, Kolesniki (Kalesnik), Korsaki, Kukawka, Nacha,
Plytnica, Podborze, Ponierdzil, Songiniszki, Swiackewicze,
Tawsiuny, Tetiance, Wersoka and estates and hamlets: Antoniszki,
Bialopriotry, Bratomierz, Dzickance, Dzierzanieszki, Emilucin,
Galdzie, Hermany, Hubertowo, Jawor, Jurele, Korkuciany, Lubkiszki,
Marcinkszki, Marjanowka, Marjanowo, Mongieliszki, Nowokunce,
Pietuchowo, Raubiszki, Runkuny, Struciszki, Wojdagi, Wojsiaty,
Woroniszki, Zalesie, Zubiszki.

Most specific information may be gleaned at
http://members.nbci.com/newhoir/lida-site/lida-dist.htm

Ellen Sadove Renck
Lida District Researchers Coordinator

Subject: Re: Video - There once was a Town
From: "Zalman Latzkovich" <zalman@sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 20:38:15 -0500

To Carol Skydell,

As far as I know, the town of Eishyshok was in Lithuania and
not in Poland before WWII .

Zalman Latzkovich
Toronto


Re: Evidence of death for SS-5 form #general

Gary Mokotoff <mokotoff@...>
 

Jeremy Berger asks what proof of death is required to get a copy of a
person's Social Security application. Merely stating that the person is
listed in the Social Security Death Index is sufficient proof of death.
Many Internet sites that have SSDI give you the option of printing out a
form to send to the Social Security Department. I use it because it covers
all points required by the government.

Gary Mokotoff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Evidence of death for SS-5 form #general

Gary Mokotoff <mokotoff@...>
 

Jeremy Berger asks what proof of death is required to get a copy of a
person's Social Security application. Merely stating that the person is
listed in the Social Security Death Index is sufficient proof of death.
Many Internet sites that have SSDI give you the option of printing out a
form to send to the Social Security Department. I use it because it covers
all points required by the government.

Gary Mokotoff


Re: Russian/Ucrainian words? #general

Joe Armata <armata+@...>
 

It also means brother-in-law (zyat').

Joe Armata
armata@pitt.edu

2. Mansh zet, ginerele lui Moscu Kutar in satul Manastireni.
Mansh ...,the brother-in-low of Moscu Kutar >from the village of Manastireni.
What is "zet"


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Russian/Ucrainian words? #general

Joe Armata <armata+@...>
 

It also means brother-in-law (zyat').

Joe Armata
armata@pitt.edu

2. Mansh zet, ginerele lui Moscu Kutar in satul Manastireni.
Mansh ...,the brother-in-low of Moscu Kutar >from the village of Manastireni.
What is "zet"


"pieplate" style photographs #general

Toby Brief
 

Can anyone tell me the name of the style and the span of time during which
"pieplate" photographs were produced? Also, were these type of photos done
in Eastern Europe (Ukraine or Poland)as well as in the US? The photos are
sepia toned and mounted on a convex metal plate. They are round although I
have seen one that is oblong. They are formally posed.
Thanks


Toby Brief, Campton, New Hampshire
tbrief@hotmail.com

Olyka: Horwitz, Finklestein, Mathless, Erga, Gingburg, Gorbaty
Horchiv(Gorokhov): Auerbach (Averbuch), Reicher, Rabinowitz
Rozhishche: Auerbach, Goldweber
Torcin: Bronstein, Weisberg
Volodymyr, Zaslav, Mechli: Brief, Burack


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "pieplate" style photographs #general

Toby Brief
 

Can anyone tell me the name of the style and the span of time during which
"pieplate" photographs were produced? Also, were these type of photos done
in Eastern Europe (Ukraine or Poland)as well as in the US? The photos are
sepia toned and mounted on a convex metal plate. They are round although I
have seen one that is oblong. They are formally posed.
Thanks


Toby Brief, Campton, New Hampshire
tbrief@hotmail.com

Olyka: Horwitz, Finklestein, Mathless, Erga, Gingburg, Gorbaty
Horchiv(Gorokhov): Auerbach (Averbuch), Reicher, Rabinowitz
Rozhishche: Auerbach, Goldweber
Torcin: Bronstein, Weisberg
Volodymyr, Zaslav, Mechli: Brief, Burack


Re: Evidence of death for SS-5 form #general

cpspier <cpspier@...>
 

I just got a copy of my grandfather's SS-5. My original request included
only his social security number, typed statement >from me giving his date of
death, and his address at the time of his death plus a check for $7 -- no
copy of a death certificate at all.

Hi,
When requesting a copy of the SS-5 application, I read that you need to
provide evidence of death.
Can I do this by including a printout of an SSDI index website search
showing a person's name, Social Security number and date of death?
Or do I have to have include a copy of a death certificate?


Jeremy Berger
Sacramento, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Evidence of death for SS-5 form #general

cpspier <cpspier@...>
 

I just got a copy of my grandfather's SS-5. My original request included
only his social security number, typed statement >from me giving his date of
death, and his address at the time of his death plus a check for $7 -- no
copy of a death certificate at all.

Hi,
When requesting a copy of the SS-5 application, I read that you need to
provide evidence of death.
Can I do this by including a printout of an SSDI index website search
showing a person's name, Social Security number and date of death?
Or do I have to have include a copy of a death certificate?


Jeremy Berger
Sacramento, CA


Kultusbeamter #general

Fritz Neubauer
 

Jack wrote:
My Cousin was called the "Kultusbeamter" of Speyer in the 1930's.
Does anyone know just what a "Kultusbeamter" and, therefore, a
"Kultusamt" was?
Stan wrote: (with my comments in between)
"Beamter" means "an official".
I agree, although in German it also implies a life-time job for the
state.

"Kultus" is "a cult". For German,
Judaism s a cult. I make it, then, that your cousin was an official
of his congregation, e.g. the gabai.
This may be wrong. There is a resemblance to the word "Kult", but in the
context of Kultusbeamter I see more a connection to the area of the
education ministry or local school district administration. Even today
in modern Germany, the state ministries for schools (education is under
the rule of individual states since 1945) are "Kultusministerien" and
the school minister today even in Bavaria is called the "Kultusminister"
who obviously has absolutely nothing to do with Jews. The person in
question may have worked in a local school district administration.
The only connection between "Kultus" and Jews is in the word
"Kultusgemeinde" which explicitly refers to the local Jewish community.

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kultusbeamter #general

Fritz Neubauer
 

Jack wrote:
My Cousin was called the "Kultusbeamter" of Speyer in the 1930's.
Does anyone know just what a "Kultusbeamter" and, therefore, a
"Kultusamt" was?
Stan wrote: (with my comments in between)
"Beamter" means "an official".
I agree, although in German it also implies a life-time job for the
state.

"Kultus" is "a cult". For German,
Judaism s a cult. I make it, then, that your cousin was an official
of his congregation, e.g. the gabai.
This may be wrong. There is a resemblance to the word "Kult", but in the
context of Kultusbeamter I see more a connection to the area of the
education ministry or local school district administration. Even today
in modern Germany, the state ministries for schools (education is under
the rule of individual states since 1945) are "Kultusministerien" and
the school minister today even in Bavaria is called the "Kultusminister"
who obviously has absolutely nothing to do with Jews. The person in
question may have worked in a local school district administration.
The only connection between "Kultus" and Jews is in the word
"Kultusgemeinde" which explicitly refers to the local Jewish community.

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany


At Rest #general

TBanyai78@...
 

Can someone tell me the significance of the words "At Rest" on gravestones.
Several members of my family have these words on their graves and I was
wondering if this was a Jewish tradition.

Jayne Cartier
Queens, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen At Rest #general

TBanyai78@...
 

Can someone tell me the significance of the words "At Rest" on gravestones.
Several members of my family have these words on their graves and I was
wondering if this was a Jewish tradition.

Jayne Cartier
Queens, NY


"BUTCHIE" MANDEL #general

TBanyai78@...
 

Looking for "Butchie" Mandel. Youngest son of Margaret and Ben Mandel.
Had two brothers - "Blackie" who was lost over the English Channel during
WWII and another brother (name unknown) who died in his 20s. Last known to
be living somewhere in NY.

Butchie, we're cousins, so if you're out there, please contact me privately.

Jayne Cartier
Queens, NY


Born July 4 New York Harbor #general

PLubeck123@...
 

A dear friend was born to Russian immigrants on board the Belgenland (I
think - haven't located passenger list) in New York Harbor on July 4, 1923
(arrival not recorded until 7/6). If an appropriate inquiry, I would like
him to know other immigrants who may have been born aboard ship in NY
Harbor on the 4th of July of any year. I am stumbling through research
efforts, but felt this could be more effective. Thank you.

Page Lubeck
Louisville, KY