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Re: Town of White Church, Ukraine #general

Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

In Ukrainian: Bila Tserkva
--
Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB.

"Gary Khusidman" <khusid96@erols.com> wrote

In Russian, it is Belaya Tserkov'. But since it's in Ukraine
now, I wonder what the Ukrainian name for it is -- probably
Belaya Cerkiv as Tomek said.


Re: Great Great Grandparents from Prussia #general

Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

Susan,

Significance of the praying hands on the tombstones has been discussed
several times on this Forum. Please refer to JG discussion Group archives.

West Prussian towns that you are referring in your letter have been
located within post W.W.II Poland borders
Gratz is known as Grodzisk Wielkoposki at 5214 1622,
and
Schroda is known as S'roda Wielkopolska at 5214 1717

--
Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB.

Hello all.. I just received a photograph of my GGGrandparents headstones.
I was surprised to read something I hadn't known before. MyGGGrandfather
Nathan Mendel was born in Schroda, Prussia June 19, 1828. On the stone
there are hands making the "Nanoo-Nanoo" sign ...>from Mork and Mindy!
That's the only way to describe it! It also says "Maimonides Lodge
No8010PSI? Or something like that. What is this? My GGGrandmother's
stone- Rosalie Mendel says born in Craetz or Oraetz Prussia Sept 11,
1837.
Can anyone help me with these places or the significance of the hands?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Town of White Church, Ukraine #general

Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

In Ukrainian: Bila Tserkva
--
Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB.

"Gary Khusidman" <khusid96@erols.com> wrote

In Russian, it is Belaya Tserkov'. But since it's in Ukraine
now, I wonder what the Ukrainian name for it is -- probably
Belaya Cerkiv as Tomek said.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Great Great Grandparents from Prussia #general

Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

Susan,

Significance of the praying hands on the tombstones has been discussed
several times on this Forum. Please refer to JG discussion Group archives.

West Prussian towns that you are referring in your letter have been
located within post W.W.II Poland borders
Gratz is known as Grodzisk Wielkoposki at 5214 1622,
and
Schroda is known as S'roda Wielkopolska at 5214 1717

--
Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB.

Hello all.. I just received a photograph of my GGGrandparents headstones.
I was surprised to read something I hadn't known before. MyGGGrandfather
Nathan Mendel was born in Schroda, Prussia June 19, 1828. On the stone
there are hands making the "Nanoo-Nanoo" sign ...>from Mork and Mindy!
That's the only way to describe it! It also says "Maimonides Lodge
No8010PSI? Or something like that. What is this? My GGGrandmother's
stone- Rosalie Mendel says born in Craetz or Oraetz Prussia Sept 11,
1837.
Can anyone help me with these places or the significance of the hands?


Research in pre-state (Palestine) #general

Josheph Wein <rosjoe1@...>
 

Could someone help with researching my paternal grandparents who lived in
Jerusalem. Joseph Wein/father Avigdor Died 6 Nov.1924. Wife, Fage Rochel
died 19 Feb. 1932. Both buried Mt. of Olives. Interested in any type of
records.

Joseph Wein
--- rosjoe1@earthlink.net


death certificate not found #general

Gloria Bailey <auletta1@...>
 

In addition to the fact that your relative might have died elsewhere, you
might find that the name was miss-spelled or difficult to read and indexed
incorrectly. Alternatively, he might have used more than one name and
perhaps the one on the death certificate is different >from the one you sent
them. For instance, one relative used Ida and Ivy, many used their inside
names and their outside names -- such as Hyman and Harold, etc. I would
try any alternative names as well as the one you sent.

I notice that NY death certificates through 1965 are available through the
LDS. Perhaps soon they will have them through 1968. It would seem
worthwhile to check the files for yourself rather than rely on someone who
doesn't have a personal interest in it.

Gloria Auletta Bailey
Searching OSHEROWITZ & GINSBURG in Romanovo or Slutzk, Minsk, Belarus
and SCHILDKRAUT in Pogost, Minsk, Belarus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Research in pre-state (Palestine) #general

Josheph Wein <rosjoe1@...>
 

Could someone help with researching my paternal grandparents who lived in
Jerusalem. Joseph Wein/father Avigdor Died 6 Nov.1924. Wife, Fage Rochel
died 19 Feb. 1932. Both buried Mt. of Olives. Interested in any type of
records.

Joseph Wein
--- rosjoe1@earthlink.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen death certificate not found #general

Gloria Bailey <auletta1@...>
 

In addition to the fact that your relative might have died elsewhere, you
might find that the name was miss-spelled or difficult to read and indexed
incorrectly. Alternatively, he might have used more than one name and
perhaps the one on the death certificate is different >from the one you sent
them. For instance, one relative used Ida and Ivy, many used their inside
names and their outside names -- such as Hyman and Harold, etc. I would
try any alternative names as well as the one you sent.

I notice that NY death certificates through 1965 are available through the
LDS. Perhaps soon they will have them through 1968. It would seem
worthwhile to check the files for yourself rather than rely on someone who
doesn't have a personal interest in it.

Gloria Auletta Bailey
Searching OSHEROWITZ & GINSBURG in Romanovo or Slutzk, Minsk, Belarus
and SCHILDKRAUT in Pogost, Minsk, Belarus


Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archive Records to be indexed-We need your help! #poland

Joe Ross <jaross115@...>
 

Late 19th Century Records For Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives to be
indexed; you have a unique opportunity to help

Late 19th Century Records For Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives
Making it accessible - on-line.
It's happening now

Dear Fellow Researchers,

Many of us researching our ancestors >from Poland have found valuable
information in the microfilms of the LDS Family History Centers. For the
last several years, this effort has gained momentum because more than
600,000 of the records in the LDS collection have been indexed and are
available on the Internet through the searchable database of Jewish Records
Indexing- Poland (http://www.jewishgen/JRI-PL). The indexes themselves
provide valuable genealogical data and enable one to zero in on specific
documents for further research.

The Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives contain the records of four towns,
Brzeziny, Rawa Mazowieki, Biala Rawska and Skiernieice. The LDS films for
these towns end just before we get to the records for the people we know
through family stories or contemporary records.

But now, indexes to Polish-Jewish records for the years not filmed by the
Mormons - 1878-1898 - are in the process of development and addition to the
Jewish Records-Indexing -Poland database under a groundbreaking agreement
between JRI-Poland and the Polish State Archives (PSA). For information
about the PSA project see: http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psastat.htm

The total budget for indexing the Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives
records is $2475.00. As you can see, we have a long way to go to reach our
goal and we need everyone's help to make it happen! Whatever you can
contribute will be very much appreciated and will help bring us closer to
our goal.

All individuals (or families) who are able to contribute $50 or more to an
individual town covered by the Archive will receive the complete database
for that town as an Excel file for your personal research when the
translation and transcription is completed.

Not only will this enable you to see the information well in advance of its
general availability in the JRI-Poland Searchable Database, it will enable
you to look at all the records >from that town at once, and perhaps find a
family name whose connection you had forgotten, or to work with the data
(for example, sorting by first name) to search for a great-grandmother's
elusive maiden name.

This means that when indexes are completed for Rawa Mazowieki Polish State
Archives, this new material will finally allow you to expand your research
into a time period that has been elusive and beyond your reach.

In most cases this period - 1878-1898 - is the missing link in our
genealogical chain - the time when our grandparents and their sisters and
brothers were born and were married.

Once these indexes are completed, you may simply print out an order form
from the Jewish Records Indexing-Poland web site and order the records from
the Polish State Archives.

I have agreed to take on the responsibility as Archive Coordinator for the
Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives. Please join me in making a
contribution to this extremely worthwhile and exciting project. Your
contribution towards the indexing of records for Rawa Mazowieki Polish State
Archives can bring to light information you may have never imagined you
would find.

Your contributions in US Dollars may be mailed to:

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
c/o Sheila Salo, Treasurer
5607 Greenleaf Rd.
Cheverly, MD 20785
USA

Visa contributions may be phoned to Sheila at (301) 341-1261. Or print out
the form at http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/visa.htm by clicking on the VISA
Card and fax or mail it to Sheila. The fax number is also (301) 341-1261.
(8:00 AM to 8:00 PM Eastern time only, please.)

For those of you living outside the United States, contributions can only be
accepted in US Dollars unless you use a VISA credit card. Your VISA will be
charged in your local currency. However, please identify the amount of your
contribution in US Dollars.

ALL CONTRIBUTIONS SHOULD BE MARKED "FOR THE RAWA MAZOWIEKI PSA PROJECT- RAWA
MAZOWIEKI POLISH STATE ARCHIVES" If you send a check, please write this on
the face of the check.

Please give what you can so that all current and future generations of Rawa
Mazowieki Polish State Archives area researchers can benefit >from this
project.

JRI - Poland is a non-profit tax-exempt organization under Section 501(c)(3)
of the U.S. Internal Revenue Code. The JRI-Poland web site, mailing list,
and database are hosted by JewishGen.

Updates on the JRI-Poland/PSA Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives will be
available in the future at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psastat.htm, click on "Status Report: PSA
Project Underway" which is the last line in the heading of this page.

Sincerely,

Joe Ross
Rawa Mazowieki Archive Coordiator


Stawiszyn and Kalisz: latest additions to database #poland

Susan Fifer <suef@...>
 

I am pleased to announce that the third batch of Kalisz records has
now been posted on the JRI (Jewish Records Indexing) database. This
batch covers the following years:

B 1821, 22, 29, 37-44, 46, 48, 51-54, 66, 67 ,91 ,92
M 1821, 29, 38-44, 46, 48, 52, 53, 66
D 1821, 29, 38-44, 52, 53, 66

This brings the number now available in the database to over 5100
(some 20 percent of the total in the Kalisz LDS films.)=20

I have also taken the town of Stawiszyn (some 8-10 miles north of
Kalisz) into the Shtetl CO-OP and the following records are now
available.

STAWISZYN=20
B 1808-11, 21-23, 26-65
M 1823, 26-62
D 1808-11, 23, 26-65

I have updated my website: www.suef.dial.pipex.com
to take account of these developments.

Sue Fifer

Sue Fifer, London, England
suef@dial.pipex.com


PSA address #poland

Terry Ostrach <to-5star@...>
 

I've printed out an order form for my request, but I'm not exactly sure
where to mail this with my cashier's check for $10. Do I send it to the
address following To [Do]: ?

Thanks


Looks like a success #poland

Terry Ostrach <to-5star@...>
 

Well, it's early to tell, but it looks like I've got a success on the
JRI-Polish Archive Index. My M-I-L's grandfather was Itzi or Itzhak
Elfenbain, born in the Warsaw area probably in the late 1850s, and probably
married in the late 1870s. I found this record in the file.
EL'FJENBJEJN Icjek, married 1877, Zakroczym PSA 1858-1898
Gubernia: Warszawa / Province: Warszawa (The Js in the name are an
extraneous character caused by a glitch of the Cyrillic - Roman alphabet).
I'm sending for the record. Will keep you posted. Don't worry, I send a
very generous donation to Jewish Gen a few months ago and I will send one
specific to JRI as well.

Terry


JRI Poland #Poland Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archive Records to be indexed-We need your help! #poland

Joe Ross <jaross115@...>
 

Late 19th Century Records For Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives to be
indexed; you have a unique opportunity to help

Late 19th Century Records For Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives
Making it accessible - on-line.
It's happening now

Dear Fellow Researchers,

Many of us researching our ancestors >from Poland have found valuable
information in the microfilms of the LDS Family History Centers. For the
last several years, this effort has gained momentum because more than
600,000 of the records in the LDS collection have been indexed and are
available on the Internet through the searchable database of Jewish Records
Indexing- Poland (http://www.jewishgen/JRI-PL). The indexes themselves
provide valuable genealogical data and enable one to zero in on specific
documents for further research.

The Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives contain the records of four towns,
Brzeziny, Rawa Mazowieki, Biala Rawska and Skiernieice. The LDS films for
these towns end just before we get to the records for the people we know
through family stories or contemporary records.

But now, indexes to Polish-Jewish records for the years not filmed by the
Mormons - 1878-1898 - are in the process of development and addition to the
Jewish Records-Indexing -Poland database under a groundbreaking agreement
between JRI-Poland and the Polish State Archives (PSA). For information
about the PSA project see: http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psastat.htm

The total budget for indexing the Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives
records is $2475.00. As you can see, we have a long way to go to reach our
goal and we need everyone's help to make it happen! Whatever you can
contribute will be very much appreciated and will help bring us closer to
our goal.

All individuals (or families) who are able to contribute $50 or more to an
individual town covered by the Archive will receive the complete database
for that town as an Excel file for your personal research when the
translation and transcription is completed.

Not only will this enable you to see the information well in advance of its
general availability in the JRI-Poland Searchable Database, it will enable
you to look at all the records >from that town at once, and perhaps find a
family name whose connection you had forgotten, or to work with the data
(for example, sorting by first name) to search for a great-grandmother's
elusive maiden name.

This means that when indexes are completed for Rawa Mazowieki Polish State
Archives, this new material will finally allow you to expand your research
into a time period that has been elusive and beyond your reach.

In most cases this period - 1878-1898 - is the missing link in our
genealogical chain - the time when our grandparents and their sisters and
brothers were born and were married.

Once these indexes are completed, you may simply print out an order form
from the Jewish Records Indexing-Poland web site and order the records from
the Polish State Archives.

I have agreed to take on the responsibility as Archive Coordinator for the
Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives. Please join me in making a
contribution to this extremely worthwhile and exciting project. Your
contribution towards the indexing of records for Rawa Mazowieki Polish State
Archives can bring to light information you may have never imagined you
would find.

Your contributions in US Dollars may be mailed to:

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
c/o Sheila Salo, Treasurer
5607 Greenleaf Rd.
Cheverly, MD 20785
USA

Visa contributions may be phoned to Sheila at (301) 341-1261. Or print out
the form at http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/visa.htm by clicking on the VISA
Card and fax or mail it to Sheila. The fax number is also (301) 341-1261.
(8:00 AM to 8:00 PM Eastern time only, please.)

For those of you living outside the United States, contributions can only be
accepted in US Dollars unless you use a VISA credit card. Your VISA will be
charged in your local currency. However, please identify the amount of your
contribution in US Dollars.

ALL CONTRIBUTIONS SHOULD BE MARKED "FOR THE RAWA MAZOWIEKI PSA PROJECT- RAWA
MAZOWIEKI POLISH STATE ARCHIVES" If you send a check, please write this on
the face of the check.

Please give what you can so that all current and future generations of Rawa
Mazowieki Polish State Archives area researchers can benefit >from this
project.

JRI - Poland is a non-profit tax-exempt organization under Section 501(c)(3)
of the U.S. Internal Revenue Code. The JRI-Poland web site, mailing list,
and database are hosted by JewishGen.

Updates on the JRI-Poland/PSA Rawa Mazowieki Polish State Archives will be
available in the future at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psastat.htm, click on "Status Report: PSA
Project Underway" which is the last line in the heading of this page.

Sincerely,

Joe Ross
Rawa Mazowieki Archive Coordiator


JRI Poland #Poland Stawiszyn and Kalisz: latest additions to database #poland

Susan Fifer <suef@...>
 

I am pleased to announce that the third batch of Kalisz records has
now been posted on the JRI (Jewish Records Indexing) database. This
batch covers the following years:

B 1821, 22, 29, 37-44, 46, 48, 51-54, 66, 67 ,91 ,92
M 1821, 29, 38-44, 46, 48, 52, 53, 66
D 1821, 29, 38-44, 52, 53, 66

This brings the number now available in the database to over 5100
(some 20 percent of the total in the Kalisz LDS films.)=20

I have also taken the town of Stawiszyn (some 8-10 miles north of
Kalisz) into the Shtetl CO-OP and the following records are now
available.

STAWISZYN=20
B 1808-11, 21-23, 26-65
M 1823, 26-62
D 1808-11, 23, 26-65

I have updated my website: www.suef.dial.pipex.com
to take account of these developments.

Sue Fifer

Sue Fifer, London, England
suef@dial.pipex.com


JRI Poland #Poland PSA address #poland

Terry Ostrach <to-5star@...>
 

I've printed out an order form for my request, but I'm not exactly sure
where to mail this with my cashier's check for $10. Do I send it to the
address following To [Do]: ?

Thanks


JRI Poland #Poland Looks like a success #poland

Terry Ostrach <to-5star@...>
 

Well, it's early to tell, but it looks like I've got a success on the
JRI-Polish Archive Index. My M-I-L's grandfather was Itzi or Itzhak
Elfenbain, born in the Warsaw area probably in the late 1850s, and probably
married in the late 1870s. I found this record in the file.
EL'FJENBJEJN Icjek, married 1877, Zakroczym PSA 1858-1898
Gubernia: Warszawa / Province: Warszawa (The Js in the name are an
extraneous character caused by a glitch of the Cyrillic - Roman alphabet).
I'm sending for the record. Will keep you posted. Don't worry, I send a
very generous donation to Jewish Gen a few months ago and I will send one
specific to JRI as well.

Terry


(No subject) #courland #latvia

CWhippman@...
 

Sorry, I should have written that Schoenberg is now called Skaistkalne, not
Skaitskalne. Thank you to Ivars Sulc for his helpful correction. Finger and
brain slips, I'm afraid. Thanks for the help.
Constance Whippman [data base co-ordinator]


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia (no subject) #latvia #courland

CWhippman@...
 

Sorry, I should have written that Schoenberg is now called Skaistkalne, not
Skaitskalne. Thank you to Ivars Sulc for his helpful correction. Finger and
brain slips, I'm afraid. Thanks for the help.
Constance Whippman [data base co-ordinator]


Re: OUDTSHOORN #southafrica

Robyn Lichter <robyn_lichter@...>
 

Dear Eli,

I am based in Australia - that is why I don't personally have access to the
Kaplan Centre. I did try to contact the people involved witht he shule there
- to no avail. The most helpful person was the man who now owns my great
granfather's hotel. Is there any way of getting further info?

Regards
Robyn

P.S. It's great to see this discussion so lively an d actually happening!
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: OUDTSHOORN #southafrica

Robyn Lichter <robyn_lichter@...>
 

Dear Eli,

I am based in Australia - that is why I don't personally have access to the
Kaplan Centre. I did try to contact the people involved witht he shule there
- to no avail. The most helpful person was the man who now owns my great
granfather's hotel. Is there any way of getting further info?

Regards
Robyn

P.S. It's great to see this discussion so lively an d actually happening!
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